It doesn't matter if they have similar cultures or not. Politically the two countries don't get along. Sure many Taiwanese people are originally from China, or their parents or grandparents were.
Why does it matter? It is not about where someone is from but what they consider to be their home. Of course there will always be similaries and connections but that does not mean they are one in the same. There are differences between Taiwan and China. There is no use in fighting over silly things.
The temples are so horrible in Taiwan, and they have no sense of time either. They will start their noise "music" and fireworks at 6 AM (even on weekends) without hesitation or consideration for other people who might want to be sleeping.
@TheGaoliang Pfft, very ignorant to criticize their religion and culture. Wait until you live near a masjid but I'm not complaining because I do respect every religion.
rottenzombie27@DNA plays a very important role so everything can be changed in one second, not to mention 60 years ago. We don't claim China as our own. We treat China as a different country from Taiwan.
90% Taiwanese are not Han Chinese. We are native Taiwanese, pure or mixed.
According to official governmental statistics, 98% of Taiwan's population is made up of Han Chinese. Approximately two-thirds of those are descendants of early immigrants (70% of ethnic Hoklo and 15% of ethnic Hakka) from the adjacent Fujian (Hokkien) and Guangdong (Canton) province who crossed the Taiwan Strait to work for the Dutch during the 17th century.
Yea you have clearly been brainwashed. Honestly, not even the most hardcore of DPP supporters would agree with what you say. Go do some research and get back to me.
Since I am the ultimate authority on this page, I will settle it once and for all (well, until the next comment, anyways):
Taiwan and China, on a macro scale, are the same culturally. You can be as nationalistic and xenophobic as you like, but that's the truth. Just like Canadians essentially ARE Americans, Czechs are Slovaks, Ukrainians are Russians, and Kiwis are Aussies.
I'm refering to Chinese culture. As far as culture is concerned Taiwan is same as China (in my opinion, I'm sure scholars will find all kinds of differences). As far as Taiwanese national identity, watch my other videos, I am fully aware of the political situation. Having said that, and to give you food for though - what does it mean "Taiwanese, not Chinese"? Is there a country called Taiwan? We both know independence was never formall declared. Keep watching, thanks for posting!
It is true that Taiwan is not a country, however we are not Chinese by blood or culture. The Chinese claim that Taiwan belongs to them is one thing, but in realty we are not under their control by any means.
Speaking of cultures, our cultures are influence by Japanese, Chinese, pulutgee and others. The Elites of that first generation of refugees who fled to Taiwan with KMT party rule Taiwan. They control our thought through Media, education and terrors. I use to think that I am Chinese but now I wake up. I have friends whose parents were from China, and I can tell they are different.
Think of Sweden and Norway, to me there are similar in cultures and Languages, but I wouldnt say Norwegians are Swedish; Norway was under Swedens control for over a hundred year.
By the way you are speaking to A Native Taiwanese who speaks Taiwanese.
Re: Sweden and Norway - both can be referred to as "Scandinavia". And are extremely similar culturally. "Chinese" is an umbrella term, and Taiwan falls under it. It's like saying that Hunan is not part of China, because it is sooooo different from Beijing. China is made of a lot of different-ish cultures, yet they have enough in common to be labeled "Chinese".
You are right. However, do you refer " Scandinavia" a state? Or A country? How about Irish and British? Like I had said Taiwan is not under China's adimin, that is a fact. Please do some homework. I never like people say-celebrating Chinese new years, it's so wrong, it is lunar New Year. Do western countries celebrate Christmas?
if russian, european and american whites are caucasians, taiwanese are just simply chinese.. you are taiwanese chinese.. there are such thing as taiwanese caucasians..
japanese too have slit eyes and yellow skin.. so they are chinese.. im sure there is another term for slit eyed humans other than chinese yeah? can you give me another term?
lol please! Do you also see the Japanese handing out red packets? Wearing red? is there also a lantern festival in Japan?
Stop denying it. Taiwanese practice Chinese culture and traditions. They read and write in Chinese, they speak in Chinese dialects (mandarin, hokkien and hakka) their ancestors came from China etc... I could go on forever.
It's time to wake up and. Put aside your political views and see the truth.
@rottenzombie27 Japanese actually give out white packets and they dress in white during lunar new year. Well it's true but Taiwanese do have their own culture and tradition. It's totally the same thing in US anyway (like my dad's Dutch ancestry but hey we don't call ourselves Dutch heh)Some of the people in Taiwan were mixed with the aborigins.
Well yea, obviously Taiwan will have some of it's own individual culture and tradition after being separated from China for so long. The same could be said for overseas Chinese in places like North America and South East Asia. But make no mistake about it, the back bone of traditional Taiwanese culture is still very much Chinese. Taiwanese people are Hua Ren, and they speak Chinese and practice CHinese culture.
@rottenzombie27 Like I said, it's the matter of english wording.This is also the reason why some of the Taiwanese hate to be called Chinese because for most people(including westerners) it is used for the people/citizens in China,or who were born in China, or the nationality, just like Americans and Canadians. Hate to say this but westerners tend to recognize the place of birth and the nationality(no matter what race or ethnic group you are) while Asians(Chinese) tend to fuss about the ancestry.
@rottenzombie27 I do blame the word 'chinese' in English cuz you won't hear any 'chinese' in MY/SG called themselves Zhong Guo Ren in mando/canto/hokkien. They would however call themselves hua ren like you said, or teng lang(if you know hokkien) To be more specific, there's alot of ethnic groups in China. The majority is Han, and then they have Manchurian, Mongolian, Hmong, the Hui people and so on. Perhaps everyone will get a better concept if you think China as a big fusion of Europe.
I don't get the funeral music. How could something that wakes the living (and makes them quite cranky at 7 AM)...as well as potentially the dead...be good for a spirit in transition?
It doesn't matter if they have similar cultures or not. Politically the two countries don't get along. Sure many Taiwanese people are originally from China, or their parents or grandparents were.
Why does it matter? It is not about where someone is from but what they consider to be their home. Of course there will always be similaries and connections but that does not mean they are one in the same. There are differences between Taiwan and China. There is no use in fighting over silly things.
FinalFantasyX2Freak 9 months ago
wrong!!!
teuchters 1 year ago
The temples are so horrible in Taiwan, and they have no sense of time either. They will start their noise "music" and fireworks at 6 AM (even on weekends) without hesitation or consideration for other people who might want to be sleeping.
TheGaoliang 1 year ago
@TheGaoliang what is this "con-see-de-rashun" thing you speak of? I havent seen it in Taiwan...
monkeetime 1 year ago
@TheGaoliang Pfft, very ignorant to criticize their religion and culture. Wait until you live near a masjid but I'm not complaining because I do respect every religion.
babypiyo 1 year ago
rottenzombie27@DNA plays a very important role so everything can be changed in one second, not to mention 60 years ago. We don't claim China as our own. We treat China as a different country from Taiwan.
90% Taiwanese are not Han Chinese. We are native Taiwanese, pure or mixed.
hokila678 1 year ago
According to official governmental statistics, 98% of Taiwan's population is made up of Han Chinese. Approximately two-thirds of those are descendants of early immigrants (70% of ethnic Hoklo and 15% of ethnic Hakka) from the adjacent Fujian (Hokkien) and Guangdong (Canton) province who crossed the Taiwan Strait to work for the Dutch during the 17th century.
monkeetime 1 year ago
@hokila678
Yea you have clearly been brainwashed. Honestly, not even the most hardcore of DPP supporters would agree with what you say. Go do some research and get back to me.
rottenzombie27 1 year ago
Since I am the ultimate authority on this page, I will settle it once and for all (well, until the next comment, anyways):
Taiwan and China, on a macro scale, are the same culturally. You can be as nationalistic and xenophobic as you like, but that's the truth. Just like Canadians essentially ARE Americans, Czechs are Slovaks, Ukrainians are Russians, and Kiwis are Aussies.
Stop building fences. It's pointless.
monkeetime 2 years ago
A square can be a rectangle but a rectangle cannot be a square unless its aboriginal taiwanese in which case it would not be considered chinese.
mfuechecify 2 years ago
Taiwan and China not even "similar".
be more "practical" dude.
S856I15 2 years ago
man, why do you keep saying Chinese this Chinese that? You are in Taiwan, and We are Taiwanese; not Chinese
ycformosa 2 years ago
I'm refering to Chinese culture. As far as culture is concerned Taiwan is same as China (in my opinion, I'm sure scholars will find all kinds of differences). As far as Taiwanese national identity, watch my other videos, I am fully aware of the political situation. Having said that, and to give you food for though - what does it mean "Taiwanese, not Chinese"? Is there a country called Taiwan? We both know independence was never formall declared. Keep watching, thanks for posting!
monkeetime 2 years ago
It is true that Taiwan is not a country, however we are not Chinese by blood or culture. The Chinese claim that Taiwan belongs to them is one thing, but in realty we are not under their control by any means.
ycformosa 2 years ago
@ycformosa
lol what? Really Taiwanese are not of Chinese blood or culture? That's the dumbest thing I've ever read on youtube ( no easy feat)
98% of the people living in taiwan are HAN CHINESE.
The english word "Chinese" has many different meanings.
1) It could mean Zhong guo ren, which would mean mainland Chinese.
2) it could also mean Hua ren. Meaning people belonging to the Han ethnicity.
Taiwanese are Hua ren but not Zhong guo Ren.
rottenzombie27 2 years ago
you really need to do some reserch? you are ignorance. Dumb.
ycformosa 2 years ago
@ycformosa
LAWL you're the one that needs to do research. Honestly watch the video again and tell me the people in this video aren't practicing Chinese culture.
Taiwan may be an independent nation but make no mistake. The majority of the people living there are HAN CHINESE a.k.a HUA REN( 華人)
rottenzombie27 2 years ago
Speaking of cultures, our cultures are influence by Japanese, Chinese, pulutgee and others. The Elites of that first generation of refugees who fled to Taiwan with KMT party rule Taiwan. They control our thought through Media, education and terrors. I use to think that I am Chinese but now I wake up. I have friends whose parents were from China, and I can tell they are different.
ycformosa 2 years ago
@ycformosa
lol I think you are the one who's been brainwashed.
rottenzombie27 2 years ago
Think of Sweden and Norway, to me there are similar in cultures and Languages, but I wouldnt say Norwegians are Swedish; Norway was under Swedens control for over a hundred year.
By the way you are speaking to A Native Taiwanese who speaks Taiwanese.
ycformosa 2 years ago 2
Re: Sweden and Norway - both can be referred to as "Scandinavia". And are extremely similar culturally. "Chinese" is an umbrella term, and Taiwan falls under it. It's like saying that Hunan is not part of China, because it is sooooo different from Beijing. China is made of a lot of different-ish cultures, yet they have enough in common to be labeled "Chinese".
monkeetime 2 years ago
You are right. However, do you refer " Scandinavia" a state? Or A country? How about Irish and British? Like I had said Taiwan is not under China's adimin, that is a fact. Please do some homework. I never like people say-celebrating Chinese new years, it's so wrong, it is lunar New Year. Do western countries celebrate Christmas?
ycformosa 2 years ago
"Chinese" is an umbrella term, and Taiwan falls under it. Think about former U.S.S.R, would you? Were polish Russians?
Man, are we debating in term of politics or cultural? Or you are playing both? As long as you can win in this debate.
ycformosa 2 years ago
if russian, european and american whites are caucasians, taiwanese are just simply chinese.. you are taiwanese chinese.. there are such thing as taiwanese caucasians..
FingerstyleTV 2 years ago
can you answer my question? Stop dogging!
And according to your logic, Are Japenese Chinese?
Are you too young or plain stupid?
ycformosa 2 years ago
japanese too have slit eyes and yellow skin.. so they are chinese.. im sure there is another term for slit eyed humans other than chinese yeah? can you give me another term?
FingerstyleTV 2 years ago
yup.. they look the same to me.. slit eyes..
FingerstyleTV 2 years ago
@ycformosa
He's saying Chinese because the religions and cultural practices shown in this video is CHINESE. The ghost festival is a CHINESE traditional holiday.
You keep on claiming that the Taiwanese aren't Chinese ethnically. If you aren't ethnic Chinese then why are you celebrating HAN CHINESE holidays?
rottenzombie27 2 years ago
Japan celerbrate nular new year, ARe they Chenese?
British celerbrate chirstmas? please telll who are they? YOu are a dumber!
ycformosa 2 years ago
@ycformosa
lol please! Do you also see the Japanese handing out red packets? Wearing red? is there also a lantern festival in Japan?
Stop denying it. Taiwanese practice Chinese culture and traditions. They read and write in Chinese, they speak in Chinese dialects (mandarin, hokkien and hakka) their ancestors came from China etc... I could go on forever.
It's time to wake up and. Put aside your political views and see the truth.
rottenzombie27 2 years ago
@rottenzombie27 Japanese actually give out white packets and they dress in white during lunar new year. Well it's true but Taiwanese do have their own culture and tradition. It's totally the same thing in US anyway (like my dad's Dutch ancestry but hey we don't call ourselves Dutch heh)Some of the people in Taiwan were mixed with the aborigins.
babypiyo 1 year ago
@babypiyo
Well yea, obviously Taiwan will have some of it's own individual culture and tradition after being separated from China for so long. The same could be said for overseas Chinese in places like North America and South East Asia. But make no mistake about it, the back bone of traditional Taiwanese culture is still very much Chinese. Taiwanese people are Hua Ren, and they speak Chinese and practice CHinese culture.
rottenzombie27 1 year ago
@rottenzombie27 Like I said, it's the matter of english wording.This is also the reason why some of the Taiwanese hate to be called Chinese because for most people(including westerners) it is used for the people/citizens in China,or who were born in China, or the nationality, just like Americans and Canadians. Hate to say this but westerners tend to recognize the place of birth and the nationality(no matter what race or ethnic group you are) while Asians(Chinese) tend to fuss about the ancestry.
babypiyo 1 year ago
@rottenzombie27 I do blame the word 'chinese' in English cuz you won't hear any 'chinese' in MY/SG called themselves Zhong Guo Ren in mando/canto/hokkien. They would however call themselves hua ren like you said, or teng lang(if you know hokkien) To be more specific, there's alot of ethnic groups in China. The majority is Han, and then they have Manchurian, Mongolian, Hmong, the Hui people and so on. Perhaps everyone will get a better concept if you think China as a big fusion of Europe.
babypiyo 1 year ago
Is taiwan Religion is Catholic Or born again? just asking dont spam it/..
moyasim 2 years ago
2:43
Huntafrai 3 years ago
I don't get the funeral music. How could something that wakes the living (and makes them quite cranky at 7 AM)...as well as potentially the dead...be good for a spirit in transition?
Tigerfly04 3 years ago
Hi! Can you please tell me the name of the song that plays from 7:22 through to the end? Thank you :)
misamiu5 3 years ago