If they had managed to put it out the condition of the structure coupled with the amount of water would simply have made a difficult and dangerous job for the demolition crew. Letting it burn to the ground while protecting nearby property seemed a wise choice to me!
No hydrant lines. No attempt to protect exposures. It looked like these guys just went back to the station. I guess it's cheaper to burn them down than to tear them down.
I see ALOT of folks talking shit on here bout firefighters running from a fire. Lemme tell yall something. Ive been a firefighter for better then 20 years now and if were backing down,It aint cause were scared, Its cause theres Nothing we can due to stop it. Now if yall that like to talk shit got the Balls to fill mine or any of the millions of firefighters shoes that go out and do this ever day,take urselves down to the firehouse and apply for a job. But I bet 90% of ya would Quit in one Day
First of all, the Fire Department is generally the best bang for your buck of any organizational State Controlled entity on the planet. We've had numerous help from the Fire Department and we love those guys. Second, if the owner of the construction in progress condo, told the fire department to let it burn, they'd let it burn, but not allow it to harm other buildings in the area. They were there watching it to keep it under control, but to risk lives and resources for nothing is stupid.
@Firefighter5130 Considering all you do is take videos of fires and have NO experience being a firefighter and never will you should just shut up and keep your comments to yourself.
@Firefighter5130 Well if you are then you are a pretty shit one for calling other fire departments shitty. Half wit? Lmfao pretty funny coming from a 29 year old little shit.
how about thinking of the bloody air pollution? The water can spray further then the "collapse zone" reaches. Its more like they fire department cant stand to LOSE A BATTLE they cant win, that's more of the truth the fire department is trying to hide from you folks.
@Top10Mr < This is Rivermark of Santa Clara, on the Guadalupe river in California. This particular building was part of River Terrace Apartments section. This is not in canada.
Under construction, nobody inside = zero reward. Firefighters motto. RISK A LOT TO SAVE A LOT, RISK A LITTLE TO SAVE A LITTLE, RISK NOTHING TO SAVE NOTHING. Because without mutual aid from 4 other departments ... you arent saving that building. And they are parked right under the building in the collapse zone. Be careful brothers and sisters.
It also doesn't help that in this case, the building was still under construction so probably didn't have 1) an operating sprinkler system, and 2) the fire rated party walls may not have been completed yet (required to have a 1-2 hour resistance rating).
I was just posting my response to all the negative comments about why they weren't fighting that fire. There is no way to safely fight that fire. Buildings can be replaced lives can't. Thanks for calling me a expert. My post is my assessment of the video I saw.
@wtfd006 < There are many safe and effective ways to fight that fire, there was just no reason to. If those men wanted that fire out they would have done so.
@gnockergnutz ...without any walls, there's nothing to prevent the fire from flashing the entire interior and quickly heating it to the point that the whole structures vaporizes into combustible gases from the inside out (those gases are why there a pillar of flame a hundred feet tall over the site). You'd need a half-dozen direct-hit tanker-drops by forest-fire-fighting aircraft to even have a chance in hell of slowing that blow-torch down once it's flaring like that.
@mschneider18xx <"You'd need a half-dozen direct-hit tanker-drops by forest-fire-fighting aircraft to even have a chance in hell of slowing that blow-torch down once it's flaring like that."...
Like I said, if those men wanted that fire out they'd have it out...perhaps using your suggested method. My point was to defend the firemen in this vid against the assclowns saying they were doing nothing or lazy.
A collapse zone is usually one and a half times the structure height. Being close to this structure could have resulted in serious burns to any FF on that scene. Damage to apparatus would have been enormous. U can't get water on this structure because of its height and intensity. Trying to protect the exposures is about all they could have done safely. To much of a risk to everyone involved. Remember 1. Life safety. 2. Incident stablization. 3. Property conservation. In that order.
Well, this is just pathetic. Unless there was a complete lack of water, or there was a lot going on at the C and D sides that we can't see, there 's no reason for nearly ten minutes to transpire between arrival and the end of the video without some serous streams being in place. They look haphazard, disorganised...engines moving back and forth and no sticks going up, just terrible. Scenes like this give firefighters a bad name.
@joemac356 < You are a complete fucking moron, this building was under construction and was not only empty of all humans but had no interior walls, it was a pile of sticks with windows dumbass. The engine moving around were doing so to find the best and safest position to protect exposures and guard the ALREADY INHABITED structures. This pile of sticks is a loss from the start and must be torn down a rebuilt anyway so the men let it burn while protecting exposures...fuckface.
Man it's scary to watch a building like this burn. American construction needs to seriously start looking at concrete as their primary construction material.timber and plywood makes no sence in construction
@foxdmulder Sure, a masonry of concrete building is going to have better fire protection (even a steel one for that matter) and be more durable in the long run, but the building would cost more, requiring higher condo prices for the developer to make a return on their investment. Like it or not, American construction is probably driven by economics more than anything else.
@Superchickenman159 You're right, in hell are better conditions for my sausage. But buddy please don't tell us where you prefer to hide your sausage's!
@Jcsharitz Why would it absolutely have to be insurance fraud? Have you ever worked on a construction site like this before? All throughout the process legitimate accidents can occur on sites like this. As a painter I have to exercise great caution at times when I am using flammable liquids. I'm not saying it was not fraud, but I'm not so quick to jump on the conspiracy band wagons.
@Greatersend< Nobody lost anything, this was under construction. with all the insurance that goes with new construction the site developer MADE money off this fire.
@RBFF123 A fire of this size surely is extremely difficult to extinguish. I'm sure it would take an incredible amount of water to even begin to put it out, likely more than they can be supplied with. The video isn't even 10 minutes long and over half of the structure is lost.
@812firefighter1 really man... whats the old saying sticks go up buildings come down. Surround and drown huh that means that you are preserving exposures and trying to contain the fire. look at you other post my friend... Dont run your mouth about other departments where you there are you a firefighter or is that just your youtube user name? This fire scene would be chaos until command got control and unfortunetly the camera only caught the chaos and none of the glory.
all i have seen these idiots do is reposition there trucks the first engine had one hand line on it then quit what the hell i would hate to live in that neighborhood god bless the firefighters that actually get the job done not burn the structure to the ground
@812firefighter1 are you a dumb ass or just stupid? do you see the fire coming out of every part of the building you would have a lot of dead firefighters if they had tried to fight this.
@812firefighter1 Listen guy, I am going to say this with no malice intended, just plain facts. And since you will ask yourself when reading this, yes, I am a retired engine captain. Two words for you my man, risk assessment. Saying to live by - don't trade firefighters for property. Also, in reference to your questions and opinions about suppression and lack thereof, this is a unit under construction. How many hydrants were here? Were they in service yet? What are the total fire
@812firefighter1 suppression resources? How far away is help? Local such as additional alarms or miles such as mutual aid? What direction is the wind blowing and how hard? What exposures may need protection since the building is clearly a write off at the time of this video? Etc. Etc. Etc... OH...that's right... YOU DON'T KNOW, and neither do I. Only the guys there know and they acted in a manner they felt proper. It doesn't really matter what you and I think does it now?!?!
I heard you say you live kinda down the street. I would hate to count on these guys, because all of them are standing around with there thumb up there ass. you don't see any ladders in the air, and no handlines, no deck guns. I have been doing this 6 years+ this department looks useless! It is obvious that this would be an exterior attack. This is just my opinion sorry to be so honest.
nothing could be done here like when the guy in the video said let it burn they were remodeling it anyway is right the materials they build with now a days is sad. Hats off to the Los Angeles Fire Department. Good Job Boys
I cant tell either? But the radiant heat on that would be awesome you could get an exposure fire within seconds maybe they sent a crew arround telling people to take the curtains out of their windows....lol weird job but better than tryn to fight one fire and contain another lol...
I can't tell from looking from this angle, but did they leave any trucks to protect exposures? That's about the only thing you can do for a fire that intense.
What do you say when you pull up to this fire...Holy SH!# .....dispatch can you please start me a Fifth Alarm please and contact rehab this is gunna be a long night...lol
this building looks to be under construction. you can see the scafolding on the outside. so being that there is no drywall or exterior finishing that'd be why its buring so fast
jctrix: you are totally right. I myself am a firefighter and there is no possible way to save this building by an offencive attack in the building. It's suicidal
i just love how some people get on here and talk like they know it all and the sad thing is they dont have a clue what they are talking about my biggest fear when i was a little kid was the fact of me losing my dad to the beast but i just want to say thank you to all of the fire fighters out there
Even as someone who isn't a firefighter, I can see there is nothing they can realistically do, except for spraying down the other buildings and outer areas so that nothing else catches fire. That building is a loss.
What I wonder is how a newer building such as this can be built so shoddily and contain such flammable materials that it burns so quickly and with such incredible intensity. A thorough examination of the building code is warrented. Why would anyone want to own property where this could happen?
@greenmanofkent That's a good question. I think the problem with buildings like this nowadays, is that contractors get away with cutting too many corners. The wood they use is just dense enough to build with, but thin enough so it burns like a match stick. And then there's the cosmetic materials they use, stucco and vinyl siding which are both highly flammable, given the right conditions. Most modern residential buildings that are "up to code" would burn the same way sadly
crank up your speakers and listen ? imagine real life... there is one thing you cant imagine from the internet its the amount of radiant heat that thing is putting out this is why you cant see anyone putting water on this, it would just evaporate before reaching the building anyways.This is why you see truck pulling away... the heat is just too much , fire truck would get damage, im pretty sure the camera guy is feeling that as well.I know because as a firefighter i have been through similar.
never mind the internet making everyone a firefighter, with a condo building like that, each unit must cost over 150k-400k , why is this building not made out of concrete??
this building was a total loss anyway there is no need to waste water resources all they can do is keep it contained until there is no more fuel for the fire. no lives will be sacrificed for a none living structure no way. so all you wanna be firefighters just shut your pie hole
My hat is off to all of the firefighters who risk their lives every day for us. I was a bit surprised to see them let it burn but after reading the comments it makes sense.
if ud go in for an interior attack, all the water ur puttin out to "put it out" would be turned into steam instantly making it more dagerous for them. Cuz not only would they have the danger of falling debris, getting caught, and buring alive they now face the risk of getting killed by steam burns. no way to attack it other than to attack it AFTER the brunt is over. also wut they may do is just spray the surroudings to keep it from spreading.
if ud go in for an interior attack, all the water ur puttin out to "put it out" would be turned into steam instantly making it more dagerous for them. Cuz not only would they have the danger of falling debris, getting caught, and buring alive they now face the risk of getting killed by steam burns. no way to attack it other than to attack it AFTER the brunt is over.
Its real odd to see a modern day building burn like a turn of the century garment mill..Ima assume that it was under constuction or some one ran out of money to complete the project. I can only laff at the ppl here that think this building could be saved and some firemen should have ran in and saved it some how. The only way this building could have possible minimum to bad damage is if it were surrounded by 20 tower ladders and some large diameter hoses on the 1st flr before the fire started
That structure was beyond saving from the first second of the video. Some water was poured on it - that's what firefighters do, but there was little point. It would have taken Niagara Falls to extinguish that.
Like I said a year ago - first there's nothing to save - they did the right thing by pulling the FF's back and letting it burn, just preventing it from damaging any adjacent structures. Being under construction like that, didn't appear there was any glass in the windows on the lower floors so the fire's got a nice steady stream of fresh air to fuel itself - must have been pulling one hell of a draft. Let it burn, keep the FF's safe.
This is not the sort of fire that any firefighter wants to be involved in. From the very first second of this video, the building is completely lost. You would need Niagara Falls dumping onto this fire to put it out. All firefighters want to save buildings, but there was no chance of saving this one.
I've never responded to a fire of this size, but I have occasionally responded to a smaller structure just as fully involved. It's a sickening feeling - you know that you are just a spectator
wow... i dont know any fire department around my area that would send a crew into a building that could collapse! I'm a Paid Fire Fighter for Newport Oregon, look me up on the city website. Andy parker.
jcitrix: you're so right! protect your life, sometimes defense is the only attack. Farm fires are usually not that big and we often have to concede the building in order to be able to protect other buildings. In this kind of fire, protection of other building is sometimes enough to keep you busy.
I saw this fire from a distance (at my work). I have seen (from accross the street)
two worse fires than this one, -the Santana Row fire, and the old Almaden Winery fire. The heat from these kinds of fires is simply incredible. I was several hundred feet away from both of the latter mentioned fires, and yet it was still so hot I had to back up further to avoid getting 1st degree burns. Both of those fires were in the summer as well.
I wonder what could have caused it...at this stage there's no furniture, no electrical or utilities, and likely only construction material such as pine studs....that's quite a fire.
@R5H4D0W most likely a homeless man living in it at the time and made a "warming" fire which got to warm. or a building tool malfunction, could be millions of things..but being as high up as it is on the structure it self, probably something avoidable.
@R5H4D0W The stage of construction that this building was in is probably the highest chance of a major fire in the buildings life. Lots of loose building supplies, lots of studs, probably not much sheetrock up yet to slow a fire, temporary electrical service all over, hot work on plumbing , and to top it off, no fire suppression systems and no fire detection systems in operation yet..
@truckco155 <It's just a pile of sticks still under construction. The whole thing has to be torn down and rebuilt anyway as per code for new construction fire. The Dept was setting up for exposures and letting the fire do some demo... less to tear down and truck away.
What we would have done is called in a chopper people aren't smart these days.
glenny234 5 days ago
is the building made of wood?
washington4478 6 days ago
@washington4478 Well concrete don't burn like that
fupa74 6 days ago
this reminds me of world trade center
washington4478 6 days ago
bet ya wont see that twice
Prentice71 1 week ago
If they had managed to put it out the condition of the structure coupled with the amount of water would simply have made a difficult and dangerous job for the demolition crew. Letting it burn to the ground while protecting nearby property seemed a wise choice to me!
wilsjane 1 week ago
thats insane!
385chev 1 week ago
No hydrant lines. No attempt to protect exposures. It looked like these guys just went back to the station. I guess it's cheaper to burn them down than to tear them down.
spiritwind1005 2 weeks ago
I see ALOT of folks talking shit on here bout firefighters running from a fire. Lemme tell yall something. Ive been a firefighter for better then 20 years now and if were backing down,It aint cause were scared, Its cause theres Nothing we can due to stop it. Now if yall that like to talk shit got the Balls to fill mine or any of the millions of firefighters shoes that go out and do this ever day,take urselves down to the firehouse and apply for a job. But I bet 90% of ya would Quit in one Day
TheTxprmdc 2 weeks ago
Hell that fire is so little I could put it out with a fire extinguisher.
DanielsSFD 1 month ago
First of all, the Fire Department is generally the best bang for your buck of any organizational State Controlled entity on the planet. We've had numerous help from the Fire Department and we love those guys. Second, if the owner of the construction in progress condo, told the fire department to let it burn, they'd let it burn, but not allow it to harm other buildings in the area. They were there watching it to keep it under control, but to risk lives and resources for nothing is stupid.
caroln1858 1 month ago
FD did nothing
sertox12345 1 month ago
i have never seen this where they just wach
sertox12345 1 month ago
Wtf ?!
That House is burning like it was just made out of wood...
Raffomat 1 month ago
What a shity fire company
Firefighter5130 1 month ago
@Firefighter5130 Considering all you do is take videos of fires and have NO experience being a firefighter and never will you should just shut up and keep your comments to yourself.
jecdown 2 weeks ago
@jecdown I'm a Chief you half wit, don't tell me how to fight fire or to the fact that I don't know how too.
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@Firefighter5130 Well if you are then you are a pretty shit one for calling other fire departments shitty. Half wit? Lmfao pretty funny coming from a 29 year old little shit.
jecdown 2 weeks ago
WHy in the hell did you keep walking away from the fire. and next time don't talk so damn much. if you are scared of fire don't film it at all.
Firefighter5130 1 month ago
all must die
MBC4HD 1 month ago
how about thinking of the bloody air pollution? The water can spray further then the "collapse zone" reaches. Its more like they fire department cant stand to LOSE A BATTLE they cant win, that's more of the truth the fire department is trying to hide from you folks.
Videographer1234567 1 month ago
Why does it say Santa Clara if it's in Edmonton Canada lol
Top10Mr 2 months ago
@Top10Mr < This is Rivermark of Santa Clara, on the Guadalupe river in California. This particular building was part of River Terrace Apartments section. This is not in canada.
gnockergnutz 1 month ago
a great loom up!
06095windsor 2 months ago
want to know did this condo burned to the ground
parrarulz1 2 months ago
That is one hell of a fire man...
BCFSXCYYJ2010 3 months ago
Looks like an insurance job
yank1776 3 months ago
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sh9683 4 months ago
Now that is a hot, fast burning fire.. Was that building under construction?
50CalPaintballSniper 4 months ago
Under construction, nobody inside = zero reward. Firefighters motto. RISK A LOT TO SAVE A LOT, RISK A LITTLE TO SAVE A LITTLE, RISK NOTHING TO SAVE NOTHING. Because without mutual aid from 4 other departments ... you arent saving that building. And they are parked right under the building in the collapse zone. Be careful brothers and sisters.
telenative 5 months ago 11
It also doesn't help that in this case, the building was still under construction so probably didn't have 1) an operating sprinkler system, and 2) the fire rated party walls may not have been completed yet (required to have a 1-2 hour resistance rating).
theLudingtonite 5 months ago
i not going in that building
dave22091982 5 months ago
daar kruip ik toch ook niet in zenne
dave22091982 5 months ago
I was just posting my response to all the negative comments about why they weren't fighting that fire. There is no way to safely fight that fire. Buildings can be replaced lives can't. Thanks for calling me a expert. My post is my assessment of the video I saw.
wtfd006 5 months ago
@wtfd006 < There are many safe and effective ways to fight that fire, there was just no reason to. If those men wanted that fire out they would have done so.
gnockergnutz 3 months ago
@gnockergnutz ...without any walls, there's nothing to prevent the fire from flashing the entire interior and quickly heating it to the point that the whole structures vaporizes into combustible gases from the inside out (those gases are why there a pillar of flame a hundred feet tall over the site). You'd need a half-dozen direct-hit tanker-drops by forest-fire-fighting aircraft to even have a chance in hell of slowing that blow-torch down once it's flaring like that.
mschneider18xx 2 months ago
@mschneider18xx <"You'd need a half-dozen direct-hit tanker-drops by forest-fire-fighting aircraft to even have a chance in hell of slowing that blow-torch down once it's flaring like that."...
Like I said, if those men wanted that fire out they'd have it out...perhaps using your suggested method. My point was to defend the firemen in this vid against the assclowns saying they were doing nothing or lazy.
gnockergnutz 2 months ago
As usual the fire experts pop up in the comments.
controllerbrain 5 months ago
A collapse zone is usually one and a half times the structure height. Being close to this structure could have resulted in serious burns to any FF on that scene. Damage to apparatus would have been enormous. U can't get water on this structure because of its height and intensity. Trying to protect the exposures is about all they could have done safely. To much of a risk to everyone involved. Remember 1. Life safety. 2. Incident stablization. 3. Property conservation. In that order.
wtfd006 5 months ago
Well, this is just pathetic. Unless there was a complete lack of water, or there was a lot going on at the C and D sides that we can't see, there 's no reason for nearly ten minutes to transpire between arrival and the end of the video without some serous streams being in place. They look haphazard, disorganised...engines moving back and forth and no sticks going up, just terrible. Scenes like this give firefighters a bad name.
joemac356 5 months ago
@joemac356 < You are a complete fucking moron, this building was under construction and was not only empty of all humans but had no interior walls, it was a pile of sticks with windows dumbass. The engine moving around were doing so to find the best and safest position to protect exposures and guard the ALREADY INHABITED structures. This pile of sticks is a loss from the start and must be torn down a rebuilt anyway so the men let it burn while protecting exposures...fuckface.
gnockergnutz 3 months ago
@gnockergnutz Your anger management classes aren't working.
joemac356 3 months ago
Man it's scary to watch a building like this burn. American construction needs to seriously start looking at concrete as their primary construction material.timber and plywood makes no sence in construction
foxdmulder 5 months ago
@foxdmulder Sure, a masonry of concrete building is going to have better fire protection (even a steel one for that matter) and be more durable in the long run, but the building would cost more, requiring higher condo prices for the developer to make a return on their investment. Like it or not, American construction is probably driven by economics more than anything else.
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Burn baby burn.
kevin49425 5 months ago
Where was this?
Top10Mr 6 months ago
@Top10Mr Edmonton alberta
tinkerynn 2 months ago
puuuh, krass
LastUnicornNew 6 months ago
Were taught we will not sacrifice ourselves to save another unless it is deemed safe to enter the structure.
originalcripler 6 months ago
nothing burns like OSB.
mr1nutwonder 6 months ago
Wow massive fire. That must be baking the entire neighborhood.
GrizBearman 6 months ago
time to call in a forestry plane for a water drop
lilchink901 6 months ago 3
You'll never find a commander ordering his or her firefighters into such a condition. It's pure suicide.
ninjax105 6 months ago
The only thing that could have quenched that fire would have been an aerial drop.
Or a sudden massive downpour.
Arabhacks 6 months ago
damn near just have to let it burn thats very big
halverdha1 6 months ago
Where's me sausage?
Amnesys87 6 months ago
@Amnesys87 in your fuckin' ass stfu go to hell
Superchickenman159 6 months ago
@Superchickenman159 You're right, in hell are better conditions for my sausage. But buddy please don't tell us where you prefer to hide your sausage's!
Amnesys87 6 months ago
@Amnesys87 problem?
Superchickenman159 6 months ago
@Superchickenman159 Ach, halt die Goschen du Spasst! ;)
Amnesys87 6 months ago
Funny all these large construction jubs and empty houses are burned... wtf? Yeah right after the housing market tanked. Can you say insurance fraud?
Jcsharitz 7 months ago
@Jcsharitz Why would it absolutely have to be insurance fraud? Have you ever worked on a construction site like this before? All throughout the process legitimate accidents can occur on sites like this. As a painter I have to exercise great caution at times when I am using flammable liquids. I'm not saying it was not fraud, but I'm not so quick to jump on the conspiracy band wagons.
FueledByDiesel 6 months ago
Lay two and go with the gun!
Wonkawillie77 7 months ago
if there are not other structures near it...let it burn itself out
DJslimU571 7 months ago
lol~ no way~ nothing can be done already~ just let the mother fucker burn~
zomgbbqwth 7 months ago
Well they are just letting it burn, don't worry about putting water on it.
TransformersMy 7 months ago
surround and drown!!!
mikej2004 7 months ago
Somebody is enjoying a nice mitai on a white sand beach laughing at this video
levi79 7 months ago
Wow....this is sooo sad. The firefighters couldn't do anything and these owners lost t heir home.
Greatersend 7 months ago
@Greatersend It looks like there is scaffolding on the right of the building, so it may be an empty building.
Mindraker1 6 months ago
@Greatersend< Nobody lost anything, this was under construction. with all the insurance that goes with new construction the site developer MADE money off this fire.
gnockergnutz 3 months ago
Where's the tower ladders.
RBFF123 7 months ago 10
@RBFF123 A fire of this size surely is extremely difficult to extinguish. I'm sure it would take an incredible amount of water to even begin to put it out, likely more than they can be supplied with. The video isn't even 10 minutes long and over half of the structure is lost.
FueledByDiesel 6 months ago
@RBFF123 budget cuts lol
themooseisontheloose 5 months ago
If my officer told me we were doing an interior attack on this structure, I would tell him he can kiss my ASS
jeremywill123 8 months ago
Bombeiros Ílhavo 2010 see this on ytube.
vidasan 8 months ago
I would have hated it if I lived on the top floor
Videogamer52100 8 months ago
OH MY LAWD JEEZUZ.
ExhumingExodus 8 months ago
Water conservation at its finest. Shut down the only effective stream you have and let it burn.
k0smon 8 months ago
Fuck, now we have to rebuild
FreakGta4 8 months ago
That fire is FUCKING HUGE
Metspart 9 months ago
in New York, the majority of fires there are set purposely, why, i dont know
saturnboi24 9 months ago
@saturnboi24 lol wut?
FlyingPhoAddict 9 months ago
@FlyingPhoAddict huh?
saturnboi24 9 months ago
@saturnboi24 Lot's of Jewish lightning!
TequilaJoeID 7 months ago
Any air tankers need practice?
mathiastheok 9 months ago
@mathiastheok Send in the Evergreen 747 lol
FlyingPhoAddict 9 months ago
what was the cause of this huge fire ball
can some one tell me
and why did the fire fighters stop putting water on the fire
p.s dose any one have the full clip of this i like to see the ending of this
parrarulz1 9 months ago
@parrarulz1 a flame about an inch tall started this huge fire ball...
93CFD 9 months ago
what was the cause of this huge fire ball
can some one tell me
and why did the fire fighters stop putting water on the fire
parrarulz1 9 months ago
@812firefighter1 really man... whats the old saying sticks go up buildings come down. Surround and drown huh that means that you are preserving exposures and trying to contain the fire. look at you other post my friend... Dont run your mouth about other departments where you there are you a firefighter or is that just your youtube user name? This fire scene would be chaos until command got control and unfortunetly the camera only caught the chaos and none of the glory.
sgttweeter0910 9 months ago
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sgttweeter0910 9 months ago
its called surround and drown fuckwad never said anything bout goin in
812firefighter1 9 months ago
1:00 the big rig comes in :D
ADivyneMind 9 months ago
all i have seen these idiots do is reposition there trucks the first engine had one hand line on it then quit what the hell i would hate to live in that neighborhood god bless the firefighters that actually get the job done not burn the structure to the ground
812firefighter1 9 months ago
@812firefighter1 are you a dumb ass or just stupid? do you see the fire coming out of every part of the building you would have a lot of dead firefighters if they had tried to fight this.
brendanrazmek 9 months ago in playlist fire vids
@812firefighter1 Listen guy, I am going to say this with no malice intended, just plain facts. And since you will ask yourself when reading this, yes, I am a retired engine captain. Two words for you my man, risk assessment. Saying to live by - don't trade firefighters for property. Also, in reference to your questions and opinions about suppression and lack thereof, this is a unit under construction. How many hydrants were here? Were they in service yet? What are the total fire
covewatcher 7 months ago
@812firefighter1 suppression resources? How far away is help? Local such as additional alarms or miles such as mutual aid? What direction is the wind blowing and how hard? What exposures may need protection since the building is clearly a write off at the time of this video? Etc. Etc. Etc... OH...that's right... YOU DON'T KNOW, and neither do I. Only the guys there know and they acted in a manner they felt proper. It doesn't really matter what you and I think does it now?!?!
covewatcher 7 months ago
I heard you say you live kinda down the street. I would hate to count on these guys, because all of them are standing around with there thumb up there ass. you don't see any ladders in the air, and no handlines, no deck guns. I have been doing this 6 years+ this department looks useless! It is obvious that this would be an exterior attack. This is just my opinion sorry to be so honest.
USCG10124 9 months ago
Good time for a deck gun surround and drown for sure.
bullzisnipr3 10 months ago
Teeeeeering,.,,,
Batsenl 10 months ago
nothing could be done here like when the guy in the video said let it burn they were remodeling it anyway is right the materials they build with now a days is sad. Hats off to the Los Angeles Fire Department. Good Job Boys
brendanrazmek 10 months ago
this looks like a new building
cats400 10 months ago
I cant tell either? But the radiant heat on that would be awesome you could get an exposure fire within seconds maybe they sent a crew arround telling people to take the curtains out of their windows....lol weird job but better than tryn to fight one fire and contain another lol...
sgttweeter0910 10 months ago
I can't tell from looking from this angle, but did they leave any trucks to protect exposures? That's about the only thing you can do for a fire that intense.
jblamire1 10 months ago
What do you say when you pull up to this fire...Holy SH!# .....dispatch can you please start me a Fifth Alarm please and contact rehab this is gunna be a long night...lol
sgttweeter0910 10 months ago
Protect exposures as best you can. This was a total loss. God it went up quickly.
wtfd006 10 months ago
this building looks to be under construction. you can see the scafolding on the outside. so being that there is no drywall or exterior finishing that'd be why its buring so fast
pyrocrazy 10 months ago
jctrix: you are totally right. I myself am a firefighter and there is no possible way to save this building by an offencive attack in the building. It's suicidal
dougsg1 10 months ago
Meanwhile at the Legion of Doom...
Username1284 10 months ago
i just love how some people get on here and talk like they know it all and the sad thing is they dont have a clue what they are talking about my biggest fear when i was a little kid was the fact of me losing my dad to the beast but i just want to say thank you to all of the fire fighters out there
muderinc304 10 months ago
ya the LAFD would have about 15 ladder pipes up in less time this video was shot!!
hot37shot 11 months ago
all ya can do there is pull out a bango and some marshmellows and watch the thing burn, and protect surounding buildings
xX3movamp1reXx 11 months ago
Even as someone who isn't a firefighter, I can see there is nothing they can realistically do, except for spraying down the other buildings and outer areas so that nothing else catches fire. That building is a loss.
Bren29 11 months ago
What I wonder is how a newer building such as this can be built so shoddily and contain such flammable materials that it burns so quickly and with such incredible intensity. A thorough examination of the building code is warrented. Why would anyone want to own property where this could happen?
greenmanofkent 11 months ago
@greenmanofkent That's a good question. I think the problem with buildings like this nowadays, is that contractors get away with cutting too many corners. The wood they use is just dense enough to build with, but thin enough so it burns like a match stick. And then there's the cosmetic materials they use, stucco and vinyl siding which are both highly flammable, given the right conditions. Most modern residential buildings that are "up to code" would burn the same way sadly
jonboogy 10 months ago
crank up your speakers and listen ? imagine real life... there is one thing you cant imagine from the internet its the amount of radiant heat that thing is putting out this is why you cant see anyone putting water on this, it would just evaporate before reaching the building anyways.This is why you see truck pulling away... the heat is just too much , fire truck would get damage, im pretty sure the camera guy is feeling that as well.I know because as a firefighter i have been through similar.
vwbora26 11 months ago
never mind the internet making everyone a firefighter, with a condo building like that, each unit must cost over 150k-400k , why is this building not made out of concrete??
bergsteinlife 11 months ago
jewish lighting
bergsteinlife 11 months ago
Only thing you could do is get some marshmellows..
TheAwesomeBart 1 year ago
nice booster fire...
93CFD 1 year ago
nice building-bonfire there
Rickyrab 1 year ago
Break out the marshmallows! Nothing else to do here!
pcarozza 1 year ago
this building was a total loss anyway there is no need to waste water resources all they can do is keep it contained until there is no more fuel for the fire. no lives will be sacrificed for a none living structure no way. so all you wanna be firefighters just shut your pie hole
REVERENDBLACK1 1 year ago
Why are they NOT putting water on this?
KC8YOQ 1 year ago
@KC8YOQ its way to big not enough engines can take that out not a building like that
ikkonX 11 months ago
@ikkonX Thanks!
KC8YOQ 11 months ago
My hat is off to all of the firefighters who risk their lives every day for us. I was a bit surprised to see them let it burn but after reading the comments it makes sense.
northernchicken 1 year ago
@northernchicken thanks you
ikkonX 11 months ago
A condo is like a kind of prefabricated houses or buildings?
FURY1958 1 year ago
if ud go in for an interior attack, all the water ur puttin out to "put it out" would be turned into steam instantly making it more dagerous for them. Cuz not only would they have the danger of falling debris, getting caught, and buring alive they now face the risk of getting killed by steam burns. no way to attack it other than to attack it AFTER the brunt is over. also wut they may do is just spray the surroudings to keep it from spreading.
UNIDEVER 1 year ago
if ud go in for an interior attack, all the water ur puttin out to "put it out" would be turned into steam instantly making it more dagerous for them. Cuz not only would they have the danger of falling debris, getting caught, and buring alive they now face the risk of getting killed by steam burns. no way to attack it other than to attack it AFTER the brunt is over.
UNIDEVER 1 year ago
Its real odd to see a modern day building burn like a turn of the century garment mill..Ima assume that it was under constuction or some one ran out of money to complete the project. I can only laff at the ppl here that think this building could be saved and some firemen should have ran in and saved it some how. The only way this building could have possible minimum to bad damage is if it were surrounded by 20 tower ladders and some large diameter hoses on the 1st flr before the fire started
stevefromPA2 1 year ago
damn that would be alot of heat.
tspragg1 1 year ago
That structure was beyond saving from the first second of the video. Some water was poured on it - that's what firefighters do, but there was little point. It would have taken Niagara Falls to extinguish that.
radtek67 1 year ago
That engine is well and truly in the collapse zone....to start.
eudamullah 1 year ago
why even put watern on it save the exposers
tinknocker7491 1 year ago
6 master streams at least and at least 2 hose teams on each side to protect exposures. Nothing anyone can do.
doitanyway123 1 year ago
Like I said a year ago - first there's nothing to save - they did the right thing by pulling the FF's back and letting it burn, just preventing it from damaging any adjacent structures. Being under construction like that, didn't appear there was any glass in the windows on the lower floors so the fire's got a nice steady stream of fresh air to fuel itself - must have been pulling one hell of a draft. Let it burn, keep the FF's safe.
KC0TLV 1 year ago
Is this a building that was still under construction without any tenants living in it yet?
pris72 1 year ago
I was happy to see them move that Engine out of the collapse zone at 3:24. Whew! Not to mention the radiant heat issue. Great video!!
911caddy 1 year ago
A flame about an inch big... lol idk what started it
KLFD1326 1 year ago
A flame about an inch big...
KLFD1326 1 year ago
what started the fire
sonicfart111 1 year ago
DAMN!..
KLFD1326 1 year ago
This is not the sort of fire that any firefighter wants to be involved in. From the very first second of this video, the building is completely lost. You would need Niagara Falls dumping onto this fire to put it out. All firefighters want to save buildings, but there was no chance of saving this one.
I've never responded to a fire of this size, but I have occasionally responded to a smaller structure just as fully involved. It's a sickening feeling - you know that you are just a spectator
radtek67 1 year ago
what do you say when you pull on scene of this......... HOLY SHIT!
Footballarm102 1 year ago
Intense heat, insane convection.
derekdz 1 year ago
holy dogshit I hope they have insurance. stay safe brother firefighters
PowerCallsSoundDumb1 1 year ago
Surround and drown and protect exposures and that's it...
firefighter0733 1 year ago
holy shit !!!
2468williams 1 year ago
hard days work gone to waste
devonika91 1 year ago
wow... i dont know any fire department around my area that would send a crew into a building that could collapse! I'm a Paid Fire Fighter for Newport Oregon, look me up on the city website. Andy parker.
Unforgottenalways 1 year ago
jcitrix: you're so right! protect your life, sometimes defense is the only attack. Farm fires are usually not that big and we often have to concede the building in order to be able to protect other buildings. In this kind of fire, protection of other building is sometimes enough to keep you busy.
pascalbellerose 1 year ago
@pascalbellerose Insurance is just gonna bulldoze it and start over. No point makin a LODD for that. Agree with you all.
german8235 1 year ago
If you want to see a truely massive fire, -look up "Santana Row Fire"
SkylineToTheSeaAndMe 1 year ago
I saw this fire from a distance (at my work). I have seen (from accross the street)
two worse fires than this one, -the Santana Row fire, and the old Almaden Winery fire. The heat from these kinds of fires is simply incredible. I was several hundred feet away from both of the latter mentioned fires, and yet it was still so hot I had to back up further to avoid getting 1st degree burns. Both of those fires were in the summer as well.
SkylineToTheSeaAndMe 1 year ago
we don't need no water let it burn
p.s put some cop im hungry bacon love it
SuperAaron969 1 year ago
its goin down nothin u can do
enick36 1 year ago
HELLO FIREFIGHTERS WAKE UP THERES A FIRE.
rachellily232 1 year ago
I wonder what could have caused it...at this stage there's no furniture, no electrical or utilities, and likely only construction material such as pine studs....that's quite a fire.
R5H4D0W 1 year ago
@R5H4D0W most likely a homeless man living in it at the time and made a "warming" fire which got to warm. or a building tool malfunction, could be millions of things..but being as high up as it is on the structure it self, probably something avoidable.
RosevilleFireCadet7 1 year ago
@R5H4D0W
I bet it was arson or something...
Jadama0 1 year ago
@R5H4D0W The stage of construction that this building was in is probably the highest chance of a major fire in the buildings life. Lots of loose building supplies, lots of studs, probably not much sheetrock up yet to slow a fire, temporary electrical service all over, hot work on plumbing , and to top it off, no fire suppression systems and no fire detection systems in operation yet..
NewJerseyBill 1 year ago
sure did move those trucks around alot.
deadheat130 1 year ago
@deadheat130 Thats about all they did.
rodbalvarez 1 year ago
when do they plan on putting water on the fire?, just keep juggling trucks around
truckco155 1 year ago
@truckco155 whats it matter, maybe a good hose training op
enick36 1 year ago
@truckco155 <It's just a pile of sticks still under construction. The whole thing has to be torn down and rebuilt anyway as per code for new construction fire. The Dept was setting up for exposures and letting the fire do some demo... less to tear down and truck away.
tubesteakdynamo 1 year ago
Not much to do with this one. Good call on defensive. jcitrix has it right.
gotgank 1 year ago
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