Your quoting of Titus 3 shows that you are a prideful old priest. You are a pharisee. Silly hat. All outward show and no substance. You also quote false documents in order to discredit Pike.
Your Orthodox belief will not save you. Nor will all your sacraments, golden cups,vestments and glorious buildings. Your Church is the syagogue of the devil and anti-christ. Goodbye old fool.
@mishakol129 Very superficial understanding of the gnosis. In point of fact gnosticism scores every time over the blind faith of the established church.
The Masons do profess a form of gnosis. However, they try to keep it all to themselves behind closed doors. My main dislike of Masons is that they take oaths to keep the secrets of fellow Masons. This could include a Mason being a paedophile. But in this respect it is the same as the RC Church with its confessional. Both evil institutions.
@02Blackbeard No, gnosticism is way worse than faith because it makes an idol out of something which does not even exist ("hidden knowledge"). It is like for someone to worship a lifeless thing which cannot see or think, a dead idol.
You are seriously misinformed by the opinions of stupid men when you say that the confessional is something conspiratory. The Catholic Church isn't really bad its just that bad men will use a good thing and use it for an evil agenda.
@mishakol129 Faith is either a prelude to gnosis/jnana/knowlege (in fact a form of knowing in itself), or it is the blind belief of a Tertullian, who claimed to believe that which he believed BECAUSE it was absurd.
Google Robin Amis, "A different Christianity".
Gnosis is not a dead idol. It is living knowlege. "He who knoweth himself knoweth his LORD".
Google Gospel of Thomas.
The Catholic Bishops were responsible for the Paedophile cover up by trying to keep it internal. Bad move.
@02Blackbeard If you do not have Jesus Christ you do not have jack, I don't care about some idea of some special knowledge because it cannot save from death and hell.
Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
Col 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
Col 2:10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:
@02Blackbeard St Paul was certain a gnostic but he himself was not a 'gnostic' as you and most others understand them. He taught that JESUS was the "Wisdom of God and the Power of God" (1 Cor 1:24) as well as GOD MANIFESTED IN THE FLESH (Titus 2:15).
You say that Orthodoxy was a creation of Constantine, but how does this guy you mention, Robin Amis, say that he believes in the Orthodox Saints and some of their writings (he even believes in the holiness of elder Paisius of the 20th C!)???
@mishakol129 OK...so if Paul was a gnostic then there must be an esoteric dimension of the Christian faith. The problem is that what has generally happened is that the Churches have presented the outer husks of religion as all that there is.
Personally, though I do tend to believe in an historical Jesus, I believe that much of the NT is legend, and the gospels are best read as an allegory Check out a book called "Jesus Christ, Sun of God"....yes, SUN, not son :) in this instance.
@02Blackbeard I don't see a hard dividing line between the "Pauline" gnosis and gnosticism. In the NT Apocrypha clearly there is some junk, but also some real pearls of Wisdom. In all religious traditions you have to seek out the jewels in a dungheap.
Anyway....what of Albert Pike? What do you think of him? How do you read his Lucifer passage in Morals and Dogma?
@02Blackbeard Albert Pike? He's a deceiver who is deceiving others, that is what I think of him.
When I said St Paul was a 'gnostic', I was not talking about gnosticism as you and other know it, but I was meaning that St Paul has the Wisdom of Jesus.. that is what makes him a 'gnostic' in my book... But due to the confusion of some (like you) who want to label him as a genuine 'gnostic', it is best not to use this name.
The NT apocyrpha is junk, it it nothing but philosphy and vain deceiit
@02Blackbeard I find the ultimate foolishness in the teachings of Albert Pike, for he believes that there is actually 2 God's and not just one, it is a teaching of insanity.
He believes that Lucifer is a type of savior of the world - and this is also insane, because there is no salvation in the Devil who fell like lightening from Heaven and turned into a torch of hell.
Lucifer did not show us anything except how to become dark and evil like himself, for there is no light in him at all
@mishakol129 Can you give me quotes to back up your contention that Pike believed in two gods? That is what the RCs said about the Cathari and it was patently false.
Again, can you offer me quotes to show that Pike held Lucifer to be a type of savior of the world?
Is not Christ termed Lucifer in the NT book of Peter?
You are aware of course that in the early Church the canon of scripture was not fixed. According to the Copts the book of Enoch was sacred scripture. That is backed up in the NT.
@02Blackbeard "Yes, lucifer is god, and unfortunately Adonay is also God, for the eternal law is that there is no light without shade, no beauty without ugliness, no white without black, for the absolute can only exist as two gods. darkness being necessary for light to serve as its foil, as the pedestal is necessary to the statue, and the brake to the locomotive." ~ Albert Pike.
"Lucifer, god of light and god of good, is struggling for humanity against Adonay, the god of darkness and evil” Ibid
@mishakol129 This quote is not from Pike. It is part of the Taxil Hoax. You can't beat Pike with stuff he never wrote. These words were placed in the mouth of Pike by Leo Taxil. Look up Diana Vera.
@02Blackbeard If you don't have Jesus Christ and His Grace, i.e his divine energies, then you don't have anything. We are all Fallen from the grace of God into a state of evil, suffering, corruption and death, the fact is that we NEED a savior to lift us up from these terrible evils, and that Savior is Jesus Christ.
The fact is, Jesus Christ came to make us like Him, like God, but if you do not have the living God, how can you expect to become like God?
@02Blackbeard We cannot become God without God Himself, that was the whole point of the Adam and Eve story. The serpent said, "Your eyes will be opened and you shall be as God's", but this was a total lie because look what destruction it wrought upon the entire human race and the whole creation. The fact is, we cannot become like God unless God (Christ) comes to dwell in us, i.e in our bodies, for the body is the temple of the Holy Spirit according to that trumpet of Heaven, St Paul the Apostle.
@02Blackbeard You don't understand where your teaching comes from, this is new age blah blah, it is not the Truth. We are not "sleeping gods". How can you become a God when you don't even believe that the is only One True God, Creator of Heaven and Earth?
Isaiah 43:11 "I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour."
If you think you can save yourself, you're in sever delusion. Please, do not be deceived, you cannot become anything without our God and Savior Jesus Christ.
@mishakol129 My religion has nothing to do with either New Age or Freemasonry. It is the Sanatana Dharma, the Perennial Philosophy. See Aldous Huxley for intro.
I am a pantheist. ALL is God. "In Him we live and move and have our being. We are his offspring".....become what you are.
You don't save yourself. You meet with a guru who can dispel the darkness...your ignorance. Then your innate divinity shines forth. "THAT (Brahman) ART THOU".
@mishakol129 You are the one who is deluded my friend. I was an Anglican priest, deaconed 1991, ordained priest 1992. Served in the Anglican Church 1987-2000, consecrated into an old catholic/orthodox line 2000. Served in that capacity 2000-2007. Then I saw the light. I now reject the RC, Orthodox and Anglican Churches, along with their poor relations, (Methodists, URC etc.) as anti-Christ. Always hand in glove with the State/Establishment. i renounced my infant baptism in 2008.
@02Blackbeard I don't believe you, it sounds like a story you want to use to support your beliefs. Beats me.
Demons and angels are real. God is real and Satan is also real. Do not deceive yourself, if you were an Anglican priest (as you claim), you certainly would have known never to abandon the Lord Jesus Christ. No-one knowing Christ though would ever leave him, you must have never known him in the first place, that is why you don't like Traditional Christianity.
@02Blackbeard God is not all things, this is idolatry which the Lord dislikes very much. Please, recognize that there is a God to be worshiped who is outside yourself, do not turn to worship your own self, that is extremely narcissistic.
Do you realize how selfish your religion is? You're deluded. Go and humble yourself before the One True God, make yourself into God because you are not God, you are a MORTAL HUMAN BEING... MORTAL! You DIE, get SICK, and then ROT in the GROUND, you are DUST!
@mishakol129 It is Idolatry to place anything alongside of God (who is ALL in ALL). For example, a soul as a separate entity, a universe separate from God, free-will etc. It is you and your Church which is guilty of Idolatry.
Your God is nothing but a gigantic object. He is the ego writ large. The big one in the sky.
Only the physical body gets sick, dies and rots. what are you? A materialist? In esse I am eternal being. I am of one essence with God.
@02Blackbeard You are deceived. I almost laughed when I heard you quote St Paul's words, "God is all and in all", St Paul was a Christian, not an idolater. He believed in the Resurrection of the dead and the life of the age to come in the Kingdom of Christ.
I am going to ban you now because you won't change your mind about your beliefs which are totally alien the Spirit of Christ and His Gospel. Y
God is not in the sky, God is everywhere. He FILLS Heaven and Earth, but he is not heaven & earth
@02Blackbeard The Coptic Church is not the True Church of Christ and therefore its acceptance of the book of Enoch is invalid. Even if one or two Scriptures refers to Enoch, it does not matter; what was put in the Scriptures was all that the Holy Spirit saw fit to give us.
As for your view that Peter was talking about Lucifer as being Jesus, this is not the case . The Apostle Peter was referring to the day when the full light of Christ would shine in us, not Lucifer, Lucifer is not Jesus.
@mishakol129 There is no TRUE Church. Christianity is made up of a heterogeneous bunch of conflicting sects...always was. How do you know that the Holy Spirit worked through the Greeks rather than the Copts or Assyrians? You don't. You just believe that blindly.
The quote is "May Lucifer rise in your hearts". Lucifer simply means LIGHT.
There is no God or Devil as an external agency. God and the Devil are projections from the human psyche. "All gods reside in the human breast", William Blake.
@02Blackbeard There is a true Church because Jesus Christ told us that He would build a Church and that the gates of hell would not prevail against it. But since you don't believe in His Word and His Incarnation then I guess I am wasting my time talking to you.
Yes, but Lucifer is not Jesus, the whole letter of Peter is about Jesus Christ the Incarnate Son of God.
"All gods reside in the human breast", this is not true because it makes man who is Fallen from the grace of God into a God.
I don't believe that Christ said everything in the NT which is attributed to him. Many of the words were put into his mouth. Just about the whole Gospel of John is a theological reflection on the life of Christ. Not history.
The only church is the mystical body of all gnostics. The human institutions which go by the name of Church are man made and contain much falsehood.
@02Blackbeard Christ said "Ye are god's", but he was not saying that we could become gods without God coming into us and filling us with His Holy Spirit.
Concerning the 4 Gospels, it was imperative that there are 4 because of the prophesy of in Ezekiel 1:10 where it talks about the 4 living creatures.
I know that the Gospel of John is a theological interpretation, but it is divinely inspired just like the rest of Scripture.
Christ founded the Church, there is no falsehood in the EO Church.
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@mishakol129 Word, I have read the Nag Hammadi The Gospel of Thomas with over 100 quotes from Jesus Christ. Some say it's far fetched but I have the proof in physics in my channel comments. the quotes: gnosis.org/naghamm/gosthom.html
The Gospel of Thomas- (Nag Hammadi)"Rather, the kingdom of the father is spread out upon the earth, and men do not see it."
silvermania one thing ..to struggle in life you will find that its a blessing that makes you spiritually stronger so no god doesnt hate us he challenges us..no need to find god now but one day you will ask for gods hand ..bless you
@silvermaniamania1 You're severely deceived my friend. Satan wants you to think that suffering on this earth is caused by God.
But in reality, suffering is caused by our own selves (with the influence of the devil).
Man has free-will, he can destroy himself if he chooses. Life and death are before him, the choice is his.
Man is Man, and God is God. Man causes suffering (with the help of Satan). And God causes health. Satan is an evil Bastard who wants us to suffer and die. SATAN IS THE CAUSE
@mishakol129 you have brain demage... satan gave us wisdom and knowledge to overcome god's prison. we are overcoming what god had created. this world was created by god. this include all the suffering and illness and disaster and pain. however with wisdom which is the gift from satan! we are overcoming these. it is satan's gift that we are living as comfortable and easy as we do now. god's world would be cold and scary. but with satan we have fire and light!
wisdom and knowledge were of the tree owned by God - not the serpent... the serpent had no authority to give us anything... once we knew good and evil, suffering ensued... and that makes sense doesn't it...? light and fire are part of God's creation... we were created by God... He has provided everything we need to exist on this plane... you have been deceived - that is what deception is... God cannot deceive... that is inherent... He created us... we are creatures of God...
Your quoting of Titus 3 shows that you are a prideful old priest. You are a pharisee. Silly hat. All outward show and no substance. You also quote false documents in order to discredit Pike.
Your Orthodox belief will not save you. Nor will all your sacraments, golden cups,vestments and glorious buildings. Your Church is the syagogue of the devil and anti-christ. Goodbye old fool.
02Blackbeard 2 weeks ago
This dude is clueless. But yes, Masons are total shills.
02Blackbeard 2 weeks ago
@02Blackbeard "Dude is clueless", based upon what?
mishakol129 2 weeks ago
@mishakol129 Very superficial understanding of the gnosis. In point of fact gnosticism scores every time over the blind faith of the established church.
The Masons do profess a form of gnosis. However, they try to keep it all to themselves behind closed doors. My main dislike of Masons is that they take oaths to keep the secrets of fellow Masons. This could include a Mason being a paedophile. But in this respect it is the same as the RC Church with its confessional. Both evil institutions.
02Blackbeard 2 weeks ago
@02Blackbeard No, gnosticism is way worse than faith because it makes an idol out of something which does not even exist ("hidden knowledge"). It is like for someone to worship a lifeless thing which cannot see or think, a dead idol.
You are seriously misinformed by the opinions of stupid men when you say that the confessional is something conspiratory. The Catholic Church isn't really bad its just that bad men will use a good thing and use it for an evil agenda.
mishakol129 2 weeks ago
@mishakol129 Faith is either a prelude to gnosis/jnana/knowlege (in fact a form of knowing in itself), or it is the blind belief of a Tertullian, who claimed to believe that which he believed BECAUSE it was absurd.
Google Robin Amis, "A different Christianity".
Gnosis is not a dead idol. It is living knowlege. "He who knoweth himself knoweth his LORD".
Google Gospel of Thomas.
The Catholic Bishops were responsible for the Paedophile cover up by trying to keep it internal. Bad move.
02Blackbeard 2 weeks ago
@02Blackbeard If you do not have Jesus Christ you do not have jack, I don't care about some idea of some special knowledge because it cannot save from death and hell.
Col 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
Col 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
Col 2:10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:
mishakol129 2 weeks ago
@mishakol129 There is no everlasting hell into which the souls of the damned are cast after death.
Reality is LOVE-BLISS....that which is always, already the case. Da Free John.
Hell is here and now. Hell is that which proceeds from Ignorance and inordinate desire.
Your second quote mentions the PLEROMA (fullness). That is a gnostic comcept. In fact the true epistles of Paul are full of gnostic terminology.
The Orthodox and RC Churches are the creation of Constantine, who was no Christian.
02Blackbeard 2 weeks ago
@02Blackbeard St Paul was certain a gnostic but he himself was not a 'gnostic' as you and most others understand them. He taught that JESUS was the "Wisdom of God and the Power of God" (1 Cor 1:24) as well as GOD MANIFESTED IN THE FLESH (Titus 2:15).
You say that Orthodoxy was a creation of Constantine, but how does this guy you mention, Robin Amis, say that he believes in the Orthodox Saints and some of their writings (he even believes in the holiness of elder Paisius of the 20th C!)???
mishakol129 2 weeks ago
@mishakol129 OK...so if Paul was a gnostic then there must be an esoteric dimension of the Christian faith. The problem is that what has generally happened is that the Churches have presented the outer husks of religion as all that there is.
Personally, though I do tend to believe in an historical Jesus, I believe that much of the NT is legend, and the gospels are best read as an allegory Check out a book called "Jesus Christ, Sun of God"....yes, SUN, not son :) in this instance.
02Blackbeard 2 weeks ago
@02Blackbeard I don't see a hard dividing line between the "Pauline" gnosis and gnosticism. In the NT Apocrypha clearly there is some junk, but also some real pearls of Wisdom. In all religious traditions you have to seek out the jewels in a dungheap.
Anyway....what of Albert Pike? What do you think of him? How do you read his Lucifer passage in Morals and Dogma?
02Blackbeard 2 weeks ago
@02Blackbeard Albert Pike? He's a deceiver who is deceiving others, that is what I think of him.
When I said St Paul was a 'gnostic', I was not talking about gnosticism as you and other know it, but I was meaning that St Paul has the Wisdom of Jesus.. that is what makes him a 'gnostic' in my book... But due to the confusion of some (like you) who want to label him as a genuine 'gnostic', it is best not to use this name.
The NT apocyrpha is junk, it it nothing but philosphy and vain deceiit
mishakol129 2 weeks ago
@02Blackbeard I find the ultimate foolishness in the teachings of Albert Pike, for he believes that there is actually 2 God's and not just one, it is a teaching of insanity.
He believes that Lucifer is a type of savior of the world - and this is also insane, because there is no salvation in the Devil who fell like lightening from Heaven and turned into a torch of hell.
Lucifer did not show us anything except how to become dark and evil like himself, for there is no light in him at all
mishakol129 2 weeks ago
@mishakol129 Can you give me quotes to back up your contention that Pike believed in two gods? That is what the RCs said about the Cathari and it was patently false.
Again, can you offer me quotes to show that Pike held Lucifer to be a type of savior of the world?
Is not Christ termed Lucifer in the NT book of Peter?
You are aware of course that in the early Church the canon of scripture was not fixed. According to the Copts the book of Enoch was sacred scripture. That is backed up in the NT.
02Blackbeard 2 weeks ago
@02Blackbeard "Yes, lucifer is god, and unfortunately Adonay is also God, for the eternal law is that there is no light without shade, no beauty without ugliness, no white without black, for the absolute can only exist as two gods. darkness being necessary for light to serve as its foil, as the pedestal is necessary to the statue, and the brake to the locomotive." ~ Albert Pike.
"Lucifer, god of light and god of good, is struggling for humanity against Adonay, the god of darkness and evil” Ibid
mishakol129 2 weeks ago
@mishakol129 This quote is not from Pike. It is part of the Taxil Hoax. You can't beat Pike with stuff he never wrote. These words were placed in the mouth of Pike by Leo Taxil. Look up Diana Vera.
02Blackbeard 2 weeks ago
@02Blackbeard If you don't have Jesus Christ and His Grace, i.e his divine energies, then you don't have anything. We are all Fallen from the grace of God into a state of evil, suffering, corruption and death, the fact is that we NEED a savior to lift us up from these terrible evils, and that Savior is Jesus Christ.
The fact is, Jesus Christ came to make us like Him, like God, but if you do not have the living God, how can you expect to become like God?
There is a God in Heaven Who is Creator.
mishakol129 2 weeks ago
@mishakol129 Where is heaven? Is it not a state of being rather than a place?
We are all sleeping gods. We need to awaken. Become what you are.
02Blackbeard 2 weeks ago
@02Blackbeard We cannot become God without God Himself, that was the whole point of the Adam and Eve story. The serpent said, "Your eyes will be opened and you shall be as God's", but this was a total lie because look what destruction it wrought upon the entire human race and the whole creation. The fact is, we cannot become like God unless God (Christ) comes to dwell in us, i.e in our bodies, for the body is the temple of the Holy Spirit according to that trumpet of Heaven, St Paul the Apostle.
mishakol129 2 weeks ago
@02Blackbeard You don't understand where your teaching comes from, this is new age blah blah, it is not the Truth. We are not "sleeping gods". How can you become a God when you don't even believe that the is only One True God, Creator of Heaven and Earth?
Isaiah 43:11 "I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour."
If you think you can save yourself, you're in sever delusion. Please, do not be deceived, you cannot become anything without our God and Savior Jesus Christ.
mishakol129 2 weeks ago
@mishakol129 My religion has nothing to do with either New Age or Freemasonry. It is the Sanatana Dharma, the Perennial Philosophy. See Aldous Huxley for intro.
I am a pantheist. ALL is God. "In Him we live and move and have our being. We are his offspring".....become what you are.
You don't save yourself. You meet with a guru who can dispel the darkness...your ignorance. Then your innate divinity shines forth. "THAT (Brahman) ART THOU".
"God became man that man might become God".
02Blackbeard 2 weeks ago
@02Blackbeard Infant baptism and holy communion are not falsehoods, you don't know what you speak of.
My question is WHY would you want to believe in the Christian Scriptures if you are not really a Christian (but a panthiest)? It makes no sense to me.
The type of religion you are describing is New Age, its just a different name. Same game different name.
Im gonna have to cut off this conversation according to the command of Titus 3:10.
Fact is, if you do not have Christ you do not have God.
mishakol129 2 weeks ago
@mishakol129 You are the one who is deluded my friend. I was an Anglican priest, deaconed 1991, ordained priest 1992. Served in the Anglican Church 1987-2000, consecrated into an old catholic/orthodox line 2000. Served in that capacity 2000-2007. Then I saw the light. I now reject the RC, Orthodox and Anglican Churches, along with their poor relations, (Methodists, URC etc.) as anti-Christ. Always hand in glove with the State/Establishment. i renounced my infant baptism in 2008.
02Blackbeard 2 weeks ago
@02Blackbeard I don't believe you, it sounds like a story you want to use to support your beliefs. Beats me.
Demons and angels are real. God is real and Satan is also real. Do not deceive yourself, if you were an Anglican priest (as you claim), you certainly would have known never to abandon the Lord Jesus Christ. No-one knowing Christ though would ever leave him, you must have never known him in the first place, that is why you don't like Traditional Christianity.
You're a blind man.
mishakol129 2 weeks ago
@02Blackbeard God is not all things, this is idolatry which the Lord dislikes very much. Please, recognize that there is a God to be worshiped who is outside yourself, do not turn to worship your own self, that is extremely narcissistic.
Do you realize how selfish your religion is? You're deluded. Go and humble yourself before the One True God, make yourself into God because you are not God, you are a MORTAL HUMAN BEING... MORTAL! You DIE, get SICK, and then ROT in the GROUND, you are DUST!
mishakol129 2 weeks ago
@mishakol129 It is Idolatry to place anything alongside of God (who is ALL in ALL). For example, a soul as a separate entity, a universe separate from God, free-will etc. It is you and your Church which is guilty of Idolatry.
Your God is nothing but a gigantic object. He is the ego writ large. The big one in the sky.
Only the physical body gets sick, dies and rots. what are you? A materialist? In esse I am eternal being. I am of one essence with God.
Your religion is of the outer husks only.
02Blackbeard 2 weeks ago
@02Blackbeard You are deceived. I almost laughed when I heard you quote St Paul's words, "God is all and in all", St Paul was a Christian, not an idolater. He believed in the Resurrection of the dead and the life of the age to come in the Kingdom of Christ.
I am going to ban you now because you won't change your mind about your beliefs which are totally alien the Spirit of Christ and His Gospel. Y
God is not in the sky, God is everywhere. He FILLS Heaven and Earth, but he is not heaven & earth
mishakol129 2 weeks ago
@mishakol129 Coward.
02Blackbeard 2 weeks ago
@02Blackbeard The Coptic Church is not the True Church of Christ and therefore its acceptance of the book of Enoch is invalid. Even if one or two Scriptures refers to Enoch, it does not matter; what was put in the Scriptures was all that the Holy Spirit saw fit to give us.
As for your view that Peter was talking about Lucifer as being Jesus, this is not the case . The Apostle Peter was referring to the day when the full light of Christ would shine in us, not Lucifer, Lucifer is not Jesus.
mishakol129 2 weeks ago
@mishakol129 There is no TRUE Church. Christianity is made up of a heterogeneous bunch of conflicting sects...always was. How do you know that the Holy Spirit worked through the Greeks rather than the Copts or Assyrians? You don't. You just believe that blindly.
The quote is "May Lucifer rise in your hearts". Lucifer simply means LIGHT.
There is no God or Devil as an external agency. God and the Devil are projections from the human psyche. "All gods reside in the human breast", William Blake.
02Blackbeard 2 weeks ago
@02Blackbeard There is a true Church because Jesus Christ told us that He would build a Church and that the gates of hell would not prevail against it. But since you don't believe in His Word and His Incarnation then I guess I am wasting my time talking to you.
Yes, but Lucifer is not Jesus, the whole letter of Peter is about Jesus Christ the Incarnate Son of God.
"All gods reside in the human breast", this is not true because it makes man who is Fallen from the grace of God into a God.
mishakol129 2 weeks ago
@mishakol129 Did not Christ say, "Ye are gods"?
I don't believe that Christ said everything in the NT which is attributed to him. Many of the words were put into his mouth. Just about the whole Gospel of John is a theological reflection on the life of Christ. Not history.
The only church is the mystical body of all gnostics. The human institutions which go by the name of Church are man made and contain much falsehood.
02Blackbeard 2 weeks ago
@02Blackbeard Christ said "Ye are god's", but he was not saying that we could become gods without God coming into us and filling us with His Holy Spirit.
Concerning the 4 Gospels, it was imperative that there are 4 because of the prophesy of in Ezekiel 1:10 where it talks about the 4 living creatures.
I know that the Gospel of John is a theological interpretation, but it is divinely inspired just like the rest of Scripture.
Christ founded the Church, there is no falsehood in the EO Church.
mishakol129 2 weeks ago
@mishakol129 There is falsehood in the Orthodox Church. Infant baptism and communion on a spoon for a start.
02Blackbeard 2 weeks ago
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deadadelta 3 months ago
U.N > FREEMASONS > ILLUMINATI > VATICAN > JESUITS.
THE CHURCHES WHERE YOU BELIEVE IN, THE BIBLE YOU BELIEVE IN. IS CORRUPTED IN THE "Inquisition" 2 Corinthians 2:17: For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God: but as of sincerity, but as of God, in the sight of God speak we in Christ. FREEMASONS: ARE CREATED FOR THE VATICAN.
Grayfox3214 5 months ago
We put blame on the evil one but it's bad people who are to blame. Bad people organized this secular world; Bad people influenced by the enemy of man. Renounce the evil one, and accept Jesus Christ of Nazareth, who layed His life on the cross as ransom for our sins, and defeated death on the third day, in all His glory. Adonai.
Leviticus192728 6 months ago
I like the greeks,they're alright!
wanker391 7 months ago 2
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GOD is all things!! dont underestimate GOD's personality and power!!!!! Isiah 45:7 (kjv) read it God does it all!! 2Chronicles 6....Amos 3:6
read your bible people
YoungPrezident37 8 months ago
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GOD is all things!! dont underestimate GOD's personality and power!!!!! Isiah 45:7 (kjv) read it God does it all!! 2Chronicles 6.... read your bible people
YoungPrezident37 8 months ago
GOD is all things!! dont underestimate GOD's personality and power!!!!! Isiah 45:7 (kjv) read it God does it all!! 2Chronicles 6.... read your bible people
YoungPrezident37 8 months ago
@YoungPrezident37 God is not all things. God's eternal nature is in all things, but God is not all things. You need to be careful how you understand the Scriptures. Have you ever read the early Church Fathers, or the monastic writers before who spoke about God? You should, because there's nothing worse that for a person to trust in his own heart. There's nothing worse than for a person to thing that he knows everything about the Bible, what it teaches, and how to be a Christian.
mishakol129 8 months ago 4
@mishakol129 No God IS everything. There is nothing that is NOT God.
halation777 5 months ago
@halation777
unlogical logic
uoitofsogroj 1 month ago
Jah Bless, Knowledge is knowledge, there is no special knowledge, Jesus Saves becuase you follow what Jesus does and LOVE God, LOVE your naboor as self. Submit to God and THIS is perfect religion before God. Jah Lives, One Love
ineedaname777777 1 year ago
@ineedaname777777 There is the "Wisdom from above", and the "Earthly" "Sensual" and "Demonic" Wisdom. (James 3:15)
The point is that Christ is the Wisdom of God. (1 Corinthians 1:30).
Its the hidden knowledge of the "Doctrine of Christ" (John 7:17)
Anyone can learn knowledge, but not everyone can learn the "Doctrine of Christ"
"If anyone’s will is to do God’s will, he will know whether the teaching is from God or whether I am speaking on my own authority." (John 7:17)
St Paul knew it.
mishakol129 1 year ago 2
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@mishakol129 Word, I have read the Nag Hammadi The Gospel of Thomas with over 100 quotes from Jesus Christ. Some say it's far fetched but I have the proof in physics in my channel comments. the quotes: gnosis.org/naghamm/gosthom.html
The Gospel of Thomas- (Nag Hammadi)"Rather, the kingdom of the father is spread out upon the earth, and men do not see it."
ineedaname777777 1 year ago
@ineedaname777777
what's a Jah?
LeadRat 2 months ago
silvermania one thing ..to struggle in life you will find that its a blessing that makes you spiritually stronger so no god doesnt hate us he challenges us..no need to find god now but one day you will ask for gods hand ..bless you
skata11 1 year ago
so what the fuck is wrong satan? satan is better than fuckin cocksuckin god!
god hates us yet satan love us!
silvermaniamania1 1 year ago
@silvermaniamania1 Whats wrong with you?
Satan is a murderer and a liar.
He's the enemy of man-kind and all goodness.
He's a bastard child of God.
mishakol129 1 year ago
@silvermaniamania1 Satan hates us so much, while God loves us more than you can imagine.
mishakol129 1 year ago
@mishakol129 god hates us. all human suffering was created by god.
silvermaniamania1 1 year ago
@silvermaniamania1 You're severely deceived my friend. Satan wants you to think that suffering on this earth is caused by God.
But in reality, suffering is caused by our own selves (with the influence of the devil).
Man has free-will, he can destroy himself if he chooses. Life and death are before him, the choice is his.
Man is Man, and God is God. Man causes suffering (with the help of Satan). And God causes health. Satan is an evil Bastard who wants us to suffer and die. SATAN IS THE CAUSE
mishakol129 1 year ago 2
@mishakol129 you have brain demage... satan gave us wisdom and knowledge to overcome god's prison. we are overcoming what god had created. this world was created by god. this include all the suffering and illness and disaster and pain. however with wisdom which is the gift from satan! we are overcoming these. it is satan's gift that we are living as comfortable and easy as we do now. god's world would be cold and scary. but with satan we have fire and light!
silvermaniamania1 1 year ago
@silvermaniamania1 See you in hell!
mishakol129 1 year ago
@silvermaniamania1
wisdom and knowledge were of the tree owned by God - not the serpent... the serpent had no authority to give us anything... once we knew good and evil, suffering ensued... and that makes sense doesn't it...? light and fire are part of God's creation... we were created by God... He has provided everything we need to exist on this plane... you have been deceived - that is what deception is... God cannot deceive... that is inherent... He created us... we are creatures of God...
CrackerJackLee 9 months ago
@mishakol129 you got it.
IamnotMystified 1 year ago
@silvermaniamania1
LOL! looks like you gonna get a lotta lovin' when you die...
CrackerJackLee 9 months ago