YOU ANALBANIAN BALD FUCKERS THIS IS OSMAN TAKA THE ALBANIAN YES BUT THE CLARINET PLAYER IS GREEK HALKIAS SUCK DICK PUT YOUR CLARINETE MALAKAS...
THE ARVANITE WAS HELLENES ORTHODOX CHRISTIANS...THE SAME AS THE GREEKS NOW FUCK YOU AND LEAVE TURK ALBANIANS THE EAGLE BACK TO THE EAST ROMANS WHO WAS HELLENIC ORTHODOX CHRISTIANS AND SPOKE GREEK...LIKE THE NEO GREEK WE ARE ROMIOI STILL HELLENES ORTHODOX GREEK AND WE KILLED TURKS AND TURK ALBANIANS LIKE ALI FAG PASHA THATS THE HISTORY IN FEW WORDS.
don't tell bullshit. albanian never say that qipro is albanian, so don't tell that epir is greek. epir is albanian land. pirro of epir was albanian, arvanitas was albanians, and u have not the blood of old Hellenic.
if you greeks claim your the oldest then how come there arent any greeks in italy secound them cilts we wear are albanian the white hats which most albanians wear still to this day greek stole our history remmber he who wins can write what they want we fougth the war and stole all the credit for somthing you never fougth or won what a shame we are the real people of the balkans greeks live in albania we never changed them where greece did to the albos in greece
@greateralbania1912 continue...Those are the Albanians that I respect, why you ignorant JERKS hate Greeks? many of your ancestors for Centuries lived as friends with the Greek Ipirotans , your donkey actions manage to create mindless hate . Let me tell you that the Greek people have a great culture and history, the more you insult them the stronger they get. I come from a family of warriors who had taken many lives to protect their families, and Nation , I do not need anyone to tell me about my-
@greateralbania1912 continue... If you were a man of honor, you would respect , and be friends with Greeks, your stupidity, and ignorance took you on the dark path. Look how stupid your actions are. On one hand you say that the Ilyrians are your ancestors, and at the same time you hate Greeks. Had you ever stop , and think that the Ilyrians were a Pelasgian tribe? do you know that they went North from the Peloponisos region of Greece? .Had you gone to the museums in your own Country to see the -
@greateralbania1912 continue...had you gone to the museums in your own Country to see the Ilyrian artifacts? , if you go there you will see the ancient Ilyrian coins, etsings on stone armour etc. that are in the Greek language. Did you stop , and wonder why is this so? . If the Ilyrians were Greek did you ask yourselves why you have a mindless, artificial ,hate about Greeks?. i hope that someday you WAKE UP, and act in a rational way to undue the damage that created a rift between our people.
@greateralbania1912 continue... I hope that someday you WAKE UP, and act in a rational way to undue the damage that created a rift between our people. Greeks, and Albanians should be friends not enemies, but in order for this to happen there must be mutual respect. My Maniati grandfather -who was a man of honor- told me that, " your friend should respect you, and your enemy should fear you " I believe that we should all live with that code.
@soNofLeoniDasandLas your enmys should fear you? well we dont fear you its the other way around how about chammeria people my great grandfather came from there from my mom side greece rapped murder woman andd children and you want me to fear you lol what history you greeks have yes we migth share some of it them white hats where do they orginated from them cilts are albanian everything is stolen he who wins the war rigths the history well in your case you stole our history i respect my enemys
The Midhat Pasha (he was Armenian Christian, not Turkish) reforms offered the "Catundarea", the Vlakh tenants and animal handlers for the Cham landlords along with other groups a chance to be relieved of excessive economic burdens and lack of political rights. Rejection of Midhat reforms by the Chams destroyed the last chance for reconciliation between Orthodox Rumeli and Sultan
the truth is that when osman taka lived,both neo-hellenic(greek) and albanian national identities were just starting to form...it is also a fact that in ancient times the area of south-albania/northern-epirus "belonged" to hellenic tribes.ilyrians were much norther...but the ancient world was destroyed.and in the 19th century there was an ellino-albano-rwmaio-slaviko-vlaxiko-normando-xristiano-tourkiko situation!..so? JUST ENJOY THE MUSIC!...and music also "sufered" these mixtures...
hey tell me where did the white hats orginate from lets see how smart you greek are make me laugh lol half of your country are dark skin people dont tell me there greeks also lol so where do the white hats orginate from
Fucking retard teens stop arguing about everything ,this is Albanian, this is greek ........Just enjoy the good music or fuck off ............no one needs your shity comments .
@greateralbania1912 in ancient Greece , as most things . Ipiros do not forget was , and is Greece , land of the Dorian, Seli, Xaones,and many more ancient Ipirotan Greek tribes from thousands years ago . I know some Albanians do not like this fact. You have become brainwashed by your muslim Turks to hate Greeks, you forgot that Turks invaded Albanian,and Greek lands killing innocent Greek, and Albanian people. Now you praise them, and you hate Greeks,don't you think this is pathetic, and crazy?
po ajdeni merni dhe koqet he mia se osman taken he bet grek more rrace e kurvave se dhe une kam qir kurva greke dhe ju quani dhe koqet he mia se dhe ato jan greke ptu rrac muti rrac maxhupi ngk late gje pa then qe eshte greke
@giannisarv So he was turk fighting against turks!!! You are insane or what? He is albanian 100%. In Chamuria there were no turks. Only albanians the majority of population divide in muslims and orthodox albanians and minorities like greeks and vlachs. Muslim abanians were killed and displaced. Orthodox albanians was denied their national identity. You steled their land now you want to steal their songs and dance. You should feel ashame.First you steal after that you try to falsify the history.
@giannisarv : im tired of all this stupid ass greek comments..... I think Im just gonna kill all of you, every single one of you and show you how barbaric we really are.... where are you coming up with this shit....
@bootystuffer You are brainwashed to hate Greeks, that makes you a man of zero. A man who has lost his moral compass , and you live in a dark place of hatred, and illusions.Anyway it does not change the fact- documented facts for thousands of years- that Ipiros was always Greek, and still is . I am a proud Greek , as were all of my ancestors in the 6.000 years of our glorious history . Na zhsh h ieri xwramas h Ellada , apo Ipiro, Makedonia, mexrh thn Kaso . Panda perufanoi, panda adamastoi
@soNofLeoniDasandLas : Let me tell you something proud Greek. Your modern history is made by us, the Albanian orthodox. You are cowards in during your own revolution. We liberated you. And in return you erased our identities and forced us to be called "Greek". I for one will not stand to the Greek orthodox church propaganda. The faith of Albanians is Albania.
And you , "Greek", if you are white you're ethier a slav or albanian. if you look Phoenician than You can call yourself Greek.
@bootystuffer We Greeks know our history well , fanatic Albanian muslim asshole. You muslim fanatics like some Turks, and Iranians are the scum of the earth. Not only you are muslim fanatics, but you are foolish, ignorant, uneducated propagandists. Your hatred toward Christians, and western cultures is very obvious, if you believe that educated people will be fooled by your shit logic, you are very mistaken, your own writings exposed your sick minds for all to see. We still proud ignorant fool
@soNofLeoniDasandLas : I am actually Albanian Catholic. First of the First & puriest of the pure. I come from the topalli clan who fought along side of skenderbeg during the 8th crusdaes. Hatred towards christians? I see you are just merely a punk-ass teenager who has been confusing global poltics by watching to much media. Most Albanian who you are considering muslims are Muslimized christians. And the only christians we hate is the greek orthodox church due to opression against Albanians.
@bootystuffer Catholics should respect Greeks.You do not know Greek history well it is obvious .The Greeks never oppress Albanians, the only Albanians that we killed were the muslim Albanians who came to Greek lands under the Turkish flag to kill Greeks .Stop insulting Greeks because you create unnecessary hatred. Part of my ancestry is from Ipiros ,NormanIpirotans , and they killed a Kaptain of Ali Pasha, and his guards when they tried to intimidate them, after that they went to Manh, Greece
@soNofLeoniDasandLas the muslim albanian changed to survive they are still albanian just because a man changes his relgion to islam dont make him turks or arab us albanians gave all you malaka history you stoled it greeks never fougth no turks when the turks where weak then you greeks fougth them pls stop your bs it was us who fougth and fougth until the turks made a deal with serbs to kill us at the end because they could not controle us anymore greeks serbs and turks are the same
@greateralbania1912 You are very ignorant about history . First of all the Greeks always fought the Turks , my ancestors were warriors for many centuries , some of my ancestors killed a Captain of that punk shit of a man Ali Pasha- who many dumb Albanians call a hero-they cut his throat and three of his body guards. By saying this I know that some Albanians respect , and love Greek people, I know this because I had Albanian friends, who do not like some of you racist anti Greek fools. Those are-
@greateralbania1912 continue.... I do not need anyone to tell me about my history because I know it well from my "Lan" Neolithic ancestors, to my " Dorian" ancestors , I know all the periods through our 8.000 year History . History that you , and many bigot fools do not know. From our brave "stratodromoi" Spartan warriors , to the Maniates, and every detail throughout our glorious history. Go sell your stupid propaganda to ignorant people like yourself. If you were smart, and a man of honor y--
@bootystuffer At one time this argument didn't exist when relatives of three religions lived under one roof and received blessings from priest, prefti or hodzha. Secular nationalism separated families and now we are scattered across the globe and still argue on YT. There are Greeks with name Zymantakis as Arvanite and Chamourians were much closer in the past.
@bootystuffer <===== hahaha zero of a man , full of hate, chicken brain - IQ, 16 - favorite sport ,throwing bananas-- favorite place, "kutumbe" forest in Nigeria or as the locals call it "the chimpanzee forest" -- favorite saying, ouuouuuguuouaaaouuaaaaa guuuuuggouaauaua
the truth is that when osman taka lived,both neo-hellenic(greek) and albanian national identities were just starting to form...it is also a fact that in ancient times the area of south-albania/northern-epirus "belonged" to hellenic tribes.ilyrians were much norther...but the ancient world was destroyed.and in the 19th century there was an ellino-albano-rwmaio-slaviko-vlaxiko-normando-xristiano-tourkiko situation!..so? JUST ENJOY THE MUSIC!...and music also "sufered" these mixtures...
@kapo1821 you are an idiot.you disgrace and offend the nation,religion,race,clan(klara),family,culture that you claim to be a part of.....it should be mentioned in Kanun( from the greek word "κανών") that the likes of you must die and fed to the pigs.
@kapo1821 thank you for being so stupid!you make me feel better...though i also feel sory for many proud and serious Albanians i know because they are "cursed" with a worthless gathering of meat like you!we also have likes of you in Greece...all idiot uneducated dogs look and speak alike...and as for history you can read some if you want-if you dare!!!and please write again you justify me every time!
@aab1221baa well sum people hav got lifes ashole. they r not like u, no friends, no girlfriend, just spending their time on line even takin th free tour on porn websites cos moneys hav run out. do u get picture numnut haha
@kapo1821 Checkmate motherfucker!you just ended it...you acuse me of all these but YOU're the one who replied to my comment!i commented to a beautiful song and any logical mind can understand what i wrote.you didn't even write an opinion you just tried to "play the swearing village idiot".
when greeks realised that them national heroes where albanian, and when albanians realised that them national heroes where greeks....maybe these nations will have a better future....
Good video but you could have added in the dance for example. There is no doubt, albanians are great dancers and so were their ancestors. Anyways, lets just learn about Osman Taka and not claim him, he belongs to the world.
@Illyria2 I agree with you my friend that Osman Taka is a vision for everyone who lives in the balcans. He was so notorious that he has been remembered and singed by both albanians and greeks for his courage and vigor. He is a link not a factor that distinguishes nations.
@pirokorcari the epirotic folk music "derives" from the rich greek musical culture and has many similar points with albanian folk music.
but this kind of clarinet playing like Petroluka's is typical greek epirotic. check out other albanian covers of the song "Osmantakas" to find out the different style of clarinet playing.
Does in Elbasan the music sounds like that? No... Why? Because this kind of music is the greek epirotic music which is common to albanian epirotic music though.
@ledbyPikeBishop yeah right, osman taka. osman. is a muslim turk name. you are orthodox . this song is from an albanian dancer. look this /watch?v=bsjUKLn9c94
@bootystuffer this is the greek cover of the song. the way the clarinet player-Petroloukas plays is the way of Moiroloi song. i suppose Osmantakas song in albanian way of clarinet playing should be quite close but not similar.
in greece, Osman Takas as a historic figure is totaly unknown. Nobody knows him and as a matter of fact nobody claims him as a hero.
The song, whether it speaks of an albanian, Osman Takas or not, it is popular but in this aspect, the greek one.
@ledbyPikeBishop : you know what thats fine.but we would appreicate it you just mind your own songs and stick to them.no more covers.. we all have enough troubles dealing with ignoarant greeks ( not you in this case) who consider stuff like this greek. We have been neighborhs for a long time and i understand we have parallel cultures, but its very annoying and irritating always being overshadowed and being undreminded in our won rights and identity to claims that specifically belong to us.
@bootystuffer i did not say that this is a greek cover of an albanian song. i said that this is the greek way of the specific song.
maybe the first to sang this song was albanian, who knows. but throughout decades as usually done in "traditional" music -music produced by communities and not a specific artist- this song has become o common song, albanian and greek. the greek cover is this one of Petroloukas.. meaning the melody, the lyrics, the way performed etc.
@bootystuffer the albanian way is like this : watch?v=I-22udO3elc&feature=related
don't you agree?.. i repeat, maybe the roots of this song, Osman Takas as a historical being even, maybe it is from albanian communities. but this song is also popular in greek hepirotic communities more than a century, and the way greeks performs it is like this, as Moiroloi, thats why this is more than just a cover...
you know why greeks and turks look similar to albanians?? coz our granphas fucked theyr wifes hahahaha probably lysander1920 has albanian blood who knows we fuck alot around the world can you blame us we are handsome man hahah
Osman Taka, died, actually, at around 1875 (he was executed) and not these you support in the info tab... He was from Konispolis, near Sayias in Northern Epirus. He fought the Turkalbanians with hatred. It's said to have been of Albanian Origin, though many support that he was of Arvanitic (Konispolis had a Greek Majority, at that time). He was Christian, probably, and that's the why the Cham Turkalbanian and Muslim Bey of Margariti (or Pogoni) executed him...
I admire your level of rafinement-check yourself in the mirror. Don't forget the magnifying glass deary. I know that you have trouble with your eyesight-. Don't kiss it, it's your reflection:)
Indeed, I have a problem with my eyesight, since I "put out my own eyes" when I took a hell of a good care of yourself...! I must admit, you have a very nice ass... However, you have a group of shit for mind! Your avoidance of answering my question, shows your level agnorance...
My original comment wasn't for you kissasser. So go find someone else to bully around, I don't have time to waste with degenerate beings like yourself...
Yeah its a custom we took from Albanians. When the Chams were here we used to fuck the young and old girls. The poor cham boys were fucking each other. But when you left we took the custom.... Pity...
A yes you're right. Gyftopontians had such a custom. But what about the Turkochams? Or the turkish sperm that is deeply burried and lost in the dark pussy of your mummy? Anyways there is a major difference between a Pontian and a Gyftopontian. Gyftopontians actually look like and behave like Albanians. The others are Greeks. Say hello to your sister I like gypsy and turkish fucked asses, jerk.
Turkochams is something that the gyftopontian sperm filled brain invented. There are only Cham Albanians, Muslim or Orthodox. Muslim chams were killed and expelled, while the orthodox ones were assimilated and many of them became heroes of arvanitoslavovlahopontia. There is no major difference, all pontians are dark anatolians, middle eastern people that faggotistan calls greeks because they are orthodox. Now go on and do what you said a few comments before, about sucking your own cock.
Lol! Fool!! When the Pontians had Universities, Schools and Unofficial Government respecting the Human Rights, you were feeding sheep in Tirane and Shkodra (which is, also, a place in Georgia - Caucasus)... Besides, go to google and type "Eveline Kazantzoglou" and watch out a really dark "Turkopontian" from "Faggotistan" (What's this? Albania in Pakistani Version?) And I recommend to have a look on Hoxha's "Illyrian" name or Osman Taka's Illyrian one... Go worship Allah, Turkosperm, poor nany!!!
Your garbage ass asiatic fuck ass is still here? You're still confusing religion with ethnicity you fuck? Shhh pussy ass ignorant arvantislavovlahopontian with an asiatic semitic identity called orthodox christianity.
Hmmm... Nothing called an argument... Alright... Turkoserbomontenegroitalianomongolo "illyrian"... with the ancient religion of the illyrians, the allah who fucks your mamma,,,,,,Come pseudo - "Illyrian" come and free the pseudo cameria, come to us to fuck your mum better then your dad Suleyman the Magnificent did. Like the Greek boss who fucked your sister for a piece of bread, filthy turkomuslim communist.
Nothing called an argument is your name, and your identity is an asiatic sick ideology. We will come to fuck all arvanitoslavovlahopontian females even more than the 500000 albanians are already doing. We will liberate our land just like the arvanites and souliotes our ancestors did, this time from orthodox asiatic anatolians. As far as who gave females to the ottomans to fuck, remember that the mehmed the conquerer's mother was greek. Once again another degenerate tradition of greeks
Ahahahahahaha ok so come and lets ssee illyrian with Ataturks father was an Illyrian too Ali Riza the great Turkalbanian even turkish history tells that, fine illyrian come and try to rape females just as we do, we fucked you 4 times in 30 years and after communist fell we fuck you every day since 20 years now i remember when i was a kid the neighbor hitting an albo monkey asiatic black man in the face with his hands even though ther greek had slept with the albo's wife, come and lets do again!
Your gay rage has made you forget how to write proper English. That's right we gave the turks men, and you gave them women and our man fucked those women. We don't need to rape any females, we fuck them of their own free will because arvanitoslavovlahopontians are too busy cornholing each other in the ass. Most married greek women have an Albo lover which fucks the shit out of them and probably quite a few are pregnant by that Albo lover. We will populate your filthy rotten country with albo
@eroshi He is Pontian, not Vlahe. I am Epirote and I don't argue about origins about Pontian Bouboula music. Even Zervas would have agreed with the message of this video.
if u wanna talk about human rights dont make me start buddy, Albania was one of the FIRST worldwide countries that alowed women to vote ( when did they start in greece? '50s?), albanians DONT care about each others religious beleifs, and nationality etc etc etc. example? i give u the best there is... MOTHER TERESA, true albanian spirit, caring, big hearted generous and kind.
more i qelbur po dhe per vallen e osman takes diskuton ,po e ka emrin osman mooooorrrre derr nuk e ka emrin spiro ,po ishte cami osman taka more ,po cameria nuk kercen me klarino more ,apo duhet qe camet te kendojin labce ,ty je anormal njeri....
Panagiote, people who have a college education are not necessarily "educated people"--to be educated is a state of mind. Educated people don't use terms such as "monkey faces" ; Oh, perhaps you are just looking at yourself in the mirror...lol...
Hahahahahahah! Excellent joke! Actually, he was speaking with an Albanian, like you and so he was looking at HER face... That's why he spoke like that. And by the way, AxelDevil, too, pretends the smart, without knowing what it means and writes bullshit... So, SHE got the answer SHE deserved...
No discussion of this matter is complete without the history of Nanos brothers -Fathis and Mazarakas. There is a complete media blackout about them and I am hoping that people from Ioannina and Parmythia area can fill in objective details. Who were they why were they executed?
Fathi and Mazar Neno- this is the Chamerise pronunciation of their names. Mazar is referrred to but not by name in the Zervas video. My father knew much about what happened but never told me- none of the Ioannina community in NYC want to talk about it. from that generation because events 1940-49 was like one big nightmare for them.
He spoke much about Aristides Diamandis- as being a traitor from our own (Vlahe) community and the need to force him to flee from Greece before he made us all liable for his actions. We viewed him more as a pathetic tragicomic figure, not a traitor. My parent's conversatins about Epirus was mostly in the "old language"
Man, I'm Greek Arvanite... Is that so hard to understand? Am I saying something difficult? Φυσικά και καταλαβαίνω, ρε... Η γλώσσα μου είναι, τι θες...;! And I speak also a little Arvanitika "Grecia ishtë më i madhi, më e mire edhe më i bukurë nga Shqepperië... Edhe, u jam Greci Arvanitis!..."
I'm Arvanite Greek, Panagiotis Aristotelis Gliatis and if you don't like, stop speaking rubbish... Never I could imagine that an Albanian could tell me to be taught history... It's clear dude: Even if Arvanites are Albanians, I don't feel Albanian and I never want to be... It;s my right to chose a nation with History and Culture than an unwashed and uncivilized nation who stole the watch of George Bush and licks his balls... You don't have even to eat and you speak... Thanks, Axeldevil!
Hahahahaha! Yeah, that kind of comment I could never imagine... Man, I'm 4th-student in the Macedonian University of History in Thessalonica... And I need to be taught, eh? Alright! You can teach me how you originate from Pelasgians and all these 5000 years you are a clean nation... Clean nation of monkeys, maybe...
YoshiVIP, do you see anyone in Greece like them? Everywhere they go, people resist! None says Osman Taka was Greek... We don't know what he was feeling... Did he called you and said "Hi, I'm Osman Taka, Albanian patriot!"...? Up till 1918, Albania was to be an autonomous part of Greece... But the Central Empires, didn't want Greece and Serbia have power in the Balkans! We are not the same and never gonna be! So, If you don't have anything foolish to say, quit commenting, please...
You have to realised that the Albanians and Greeks...we are historical brothers...we are the same nation...and our languages have the same start....we are Pelasgi...the same nation....one day we ll be again,,,I promise
Did they said you, that kind of lie, eh? Where? 'Cause in no school or official (both political and scientific), such thing is known... Greeks, have nothing to do with Albanians. Not genetically, culturally, historically, religionally or anything else... The Ancient Greek tribe of the Pelasgians were named after Pelagus (Πέλαγος)... The Albanians came in the area of Balcans after the Roman Conquest of Atropatene Medea... They coriginate from Azerbaijan... Go be taught history, kid...
Actually, the History we've been learning here, is higher quality than yours... If I, as Greek, have nothing to do with the Pelasgians who had Greek names, and worship Greek Gods, the you, what do you have to do? Illyrians have nothing to do with you. You came as Slaves of Romans till 2BC, slaves of Arabians till 9AC and Turks till 14AC. Indeed, Albanians are a clear nation... If we judge from your Monkey faces, then History is revealed...
Takis, Lakis, Mitsos are not Greek names but nicknames... Nikolaos, Panagiotis, Dimitrios (The Pelasgians had God Dimitra), Vasilios (The Pelasgians had Vasileu)... Even if they didn't have these names, did they have Murat, Enkjol, Hasan etc...? Come on! And Jesus Christ(Blessed Be His Name) was not Greek... Was Hebrew. Greek Gods (also the Pelasgians had them) were Ares, Zeus, Demeter, Aphrodite etc... No Greek book says you're Illyrians.
In this, I have to agree. The major enemy of the Hellenic Ancient Civilization was Christianity and the Roman Emperors. But, the Greek Spirit, Philosophy, way of life and tradition remained... You fought the Ottomans on the side of Skenderbej during Middle Ages! Later you fought ALONG with the Ottomans. I don't suppose the Church! The greatest traitors was inside it (even today that's a fact). I don't know this book. I only know what a hero of Greek Revolution wrote that time...
Greece is, sadly, a democratic country not a theocratic... Theocratic means that the Church is above all and the High Priest has all power... The High Priest of Greek Church is the Patriarch and he's not even in Greece... He's in Constantinople. And he has no power over politics... They swer to the Bible, because it means they speak the truth... The ancient spirit is the union of Greek People and all those barbarian nations around us trying to steal our civilization. Quite simple.
Hahahahaahahahahaa!!! Of course not! The most money in Greece are been held by the Buisness men like Vardinogiannis, Kokkalis, Vgenopoulos all of whom hold not just the Greek Economy but those of Skopje, Bulgaria, Serbia and Albania, too... We may not have a large army like Turkey, but we're decades more improved... The Patriarch of Constantinople is just a title in the Church. He has not political powers (Greek Constitution Proclaim). Religion has nothing to do with origins
Vatopedion is called not Vatopaidi. Vatopaidia are your co-patriots (boy of trees)... I'm speaking the truth... You say, I don't know what's going on in my country? Because the Albanian Government thinks that it has the power of USA to say whatever rubbish they wish, it doesn't mean you know the truth. Man, you don't know why your stomach makes sounds (out of hunger) and you speak of policy in foreign countries...? T.Rousopoulos (former journalist and politician) is the main responsible!
I didn't said that Rousopoulos paid for the stealing he did... They managed to cover him till he retires (he did the day before yesterday) . It's common sence and probably true, that when Samaras opened the Greek Borders in the early 90s' and all these proud "Pelasgo-Illyrio-Aryan" hungry wolves came here (I was a little kid then, remember them begging for job or bread) he and all politicians adopted the only thing you should be proud of "The Albanian Way of Stealing and Breaking The Law"...
And you cannot play jokes on me, Shepperie or how the hell is written, is the official name of your state and Shqiptar means Son of the Eagle.... Arvanitis in Greek means the man who originates from the area of Arvanon or Alvanopolis in Epirus Despotate...
And by the way, Chamerian, I along with 87% of the Greek population (according to tele and net-voting) don't want them here. The capitalist government of ND brought them here in order to work as slaves (that they are), because Greek Families needed more money. And the stadiums were built long before you came here. Even if, although, they were built by Albanians, who cares?? No one will ever know. They way you treated 400.000 Northern Epirotans there, should those "people" be treated here.
That's not a lie... 20 years now, they didn't eat bread, in order to buy home or car and shout everywhere they're Greeks. They want to be like Greeks. They do everything about that, from changing names and religion up to denying being of Albanian roots. And many of these kids, don't want to see Albania, again... And the big houses are bought by drug sellers. Our homes and shops are ours, not theirs. You are not in Greece, you don't know. "Stop speaking words you don't know what they mean!"
Changing names and religion is a trick that greek state use for better asimilation.
For Albanians is very dificult to use their real names and religion in Greece cause they will have problem with their green kard.Only if you put one new greek name and say I am vorioepirotis and your paper will be ready in one day.
Man, stop it...! Do you, really, know what's going in inside the Greek State...? Of course, not... The Greek Government doesn't seek assimilation... Tries to find out a way to send them back! And they do not recognise Albanians from North Epirotans, sadly... No, they change names because they live here 20 years and if you say something about Albania, they speak of no food, electricity etc... That's why!
Yeah, you know like "Theokratiko", the court and Rousopoulos, clear Pelasgians and the issue with the denial of identity of modern Albanians in Greece. You teach me, although, that know-it-all Albanians are not just here in Greece but also there and everywhere. I cannot know what money does have every Greek citizen in Greek banks. But I know, that Albanian with money means drug seller or hired killer. And, also, now, you jump subjects etc. It's clear that they deny you, accept it.
Tell me tha policman before 3 days Albanians killed him too?Before the Albanians came you had no drugs in Greece?Albanians with money means someone who works and not drinking coffe with dad's money.
BALD FUCKERS ALBANIA PEOPLE ARVANITE AND GREEKS ALWAYS ONE..WE HAVE BEAUTIFUL MUSIC AND DANCES NOW FAST BACK TO YOUR GREEK BOSSES AND WORK
dangerousnick1 2 months ago
@dangerousnick1 your DNA shows that you are albanian hoho
lulzimi 1 month ago
YOU ANALBANIAN BALD FUCKERS THIS IS OSMAN TAKA THE ALBANIAN YES BUT THE CLARINET PLAYER IS GREEK HALKIAS SUCK DICK PUT YOUR CLARINETE MALAKAS...
THE ARVANITE WAS HELLENES ORTHODOX CHRISTIANS...THE SAME AS THE GREEKS NOW FUCK YOU AND LEAVE TURK ALBANIANS THE EAGLE BACK TO THE EAST ROMANS WHO WAS HELLENIC ORTHODOX CHRISTIANS AND SPOKE GREEK...LIKE THE NEO GREEK WE ARE ROMIOI STILL HELLENES ORTHODOX GREEK AND WE KILLED TURKS AND TURK ALBANIANS LIKE ALI FAG PASHA THATS THE HISTORY IN FEW WORDS.
dangerousnick1 2 months ago
osman taka
the name and surname are albanian.
arvanitas = albanian
don't tell bullshit. albanian never say that qipro is albanian, so don't tell that epir is greek. epir is albanian land. pirro of epir was albanian, arvanitas was albanians, and u have not the blood of old Hellenic.
02mourinho 2 months ago
im albanian from ex=yugo-macediona no i never been to albania musem mabey we do cross paths in some of the history
greateralbania1912 2 months ago
if you greeks claim your the oldest then how come there arent any greeks in italy secound them cilts we wear are albanian the white hats which most albanians wear still to this day greek stole our history remmber he who wins can write what they want we fougth the war and stole all the credit for somthing you never fougth or won what a shame we are the real people of the balkans greeks live in albania we never changed them where greece did to the albos in greece
greateralbania1912 2 months ago
@greateralbania1912 continue...Those are the Albanians that I respect, why you ignorant JERKS hate Greeks? many of your ancestors for Centuries lived as friends with the Greek Ipirotans , your donkey actions manage to create mindless hate . Let me tell you that the Greek people have a great culture and history, the more you insult them the stronger they get. I come from a family of warriors who had taken many lives to protect their families, and Nation , I do not need anyone to tell me about my-
soNofLeoniDasandLas 2 months ago
@greateralbania1912 continue... If you were a man of honor, you would respect , and be friends with Greeks, your stupidity, and ignorance took you on the dark path. Look how stupid your actions are. On one hand you say that the Ilyrians are your ancestors, and at the same time you hate Greeks. Had you ever stop , and think that the Ilyrians were a Pelasgian tribe? do you know that they went North from the Peloponisos region of Greece? .Had you gone to the museums in your own Country to see the -
soNofLeoniDasandLas 2 months ago
@greateralbania1912 continue...had you gone to the museums in your own Country to see the Ilyrian artifacts? , if you go there you will see the ancient Ilyrian coins, etsings on stone armour etc. that are in the Greek language. Did you stop , and wonder why is this so? . If the Ilyrians were Greek did you ask yourselves why you have a mindless, artificial ,hate about Greeks?. i hope that someday you WAKE UP, and act in a rational way to undue the damage that created a rift between our people.
soNofLeoniDasandLas 2 months ago
@greateralbania1912 continue... I hope that someday you WAKE UP, and act in a rational way to undue the damage that created a rift between our people. Greeks, and Albanians should be friends not enemies, but in order for this to happen there must be mutual respect. My Maniati grandfather -who was a man of honor- told me that, " your friend should respect you, and your enemy should fear you " I believe that we should all live with that code.
soNofLeoniDasandLas 2 months ago
@soNofLeoniDasandLas your enmys should fear you? well we dont fear you its the other way around how about chammeria people my great grandfather came from there from my mom side greece rapped murder woman andd children and you want me to fear you lol what history you greeks have yes we migth share some of it them white hats where do they orginated from them cilts are albanian everything is stolen he who wins the war rigths the history well in your case you stole our history i respect my enemys
greateralbania1912 2 months ago
The Midhat Pasha (he was Armenian Christian, not Turkish) reforms offered the "Catundarea", the Vlakh tenants and animal handlers for the Cham landlords along with other groups a chance to be relieved of excessive economic burdens and lack of political rights. Rejection of Midhat reforms by the Chams destroyed the last chance for reconciliation between Orthodox Rumeli and Sultan
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kabanakis 4 months ago
the truth is that when osman taka lived,both neo-hellenic(greek) and albanian national identities were just starting to form...it is also a fact that in ancient times the area of south-albania/northern-epirus "belonged" to hellenic tribes.ilyrians were much norther...but the ancient world was destroyed.and in the 19th century there was an ellino-albano-rwmaio-slaviko-vlaxiko-normando-xristiano-tourkiko situation!..so? JUST ENJOY THE MUSIC!...and music also "sufered" these mixtures...
aab1221baa 5 months ago
@aab1221baa : I think you have lost it, you have went down the deep end.., thx anyway
bootystuffer 4 months ago
hey tell me where did the white hats orginate from lets see how smart you greek are make me laugh lol half of your country are dark skin people dont tell me there greeks also lol so where do the white hats orginate from
greateralbania1912 7 months ago
Fucking retard teens stop arguing about everything ,this is Albanian, this is greek ........Just enjoy the good music or fuck off ............no one needs your shity comments .
MeMo5682 8 months ago 2
if you greeeks are so smart tell me where did the hats come from the one they wear on there head orginated from?
greateralbania1912 8 months ago
@greateralbania1912 in ancient Greece , as most things . Ipiros do not forget was , and is Greece , land of the Dorian, Seli, Xaones,and many more ancient Ipirotan Greek tribes from thousands years ago . I know some Albanians do not like this fact. You have become brainwashed by your muslim Turks to hate Greeks, you forgot that Turks invaded Albanian,and Greek lands killing innocent Greek, and Albanian people. Now you praise them, and you hate Greeks,don't you think this is pathetic, and crazy?
soNofLeoniDasandLas 7 months ago
osman taka is albanian
MrRoveno 11 months ago
/watch?v=bsjUKLn9c94
agon1984 1 year ago
/watch?v=bsjUKLn9c94
agon1984 1 year ago
/watch?v=bsjUKLn9c94
agon1984 1 year ago
po ajdeni merni dhe koqet he mia se osman taken he bet grek more rrace e kurvave se dhe une kam qir kurva greke dhe ju quani dhe koqet he mia se dhe ato jan greke ptu rrac muti rrac maxhupi ngk late gje pa then qe eshte greke
hysiful 1 year ago
1. Osman Takas was Turkish who helped the Greek in THEIR fight from freedom against Turkey in 19th century....
2. The Turkish caught him for helping Greek warriors.
The only truth in YOUR story is that his only wish was to dance for a last time a GREEK dance......
giannisarv 1 year ago
@giannisarv keep dreaming idiot
ViniTheFuture 1 year ago
@giannisarv So he was turk fighting against turks!!! You are insane or what? He is albanian 100%. In Chamuria there were no turks. Only albanians the majority of population divide in muslims and orthodox albanians and minorities like greeks and vlachs. Muslim abanians were killed and displaced. Orthodox albanians was denied their national identity. You steled their land now you want to steal their songs and dance. You should feel ashame.First you steal after that you try to falsify the history.
Skifteri007 10 months ago
@giannisarv : im tired of all this stupid ass greek comments..... I think Im just gonna kill all of you, every single one of you and show you how barbaric we really are.... where are you coming up with this shit....
bootystuffer 9 months ago
@bootystuffer You are brainwashed to hate Greeks, that makes you a man of zero. A man who has lost his moral compass , and you live in a dark place of hatred, and illusions.Anyway it does not change the fact- documented facts for thousands of years- that Ipiros was always Greek, and still is . I am a proud Greek , as were all of my ancestors in the 6.000 years of our glorious history . Na zhsh h ieri xwramas h Ellada , apo Ipiro, Makedonia, mexrh thn Kaso . Panda perufanoi, panda adamastoi
soNofLeoniDasandLas 7 months ago
@soNofLeoniDasandLas : Let me tell you something proud Greek. Your modern history is made by us, the Albanian orthodox. You are cowards in during your own revolution. We liberated you. And in return you erased our identities and forced us to be called "Greek". I for one will not stand to the Greek orthodox church propaganda. The faith of Albanians is Albania.
And you , "Greek", if you are white you're ethier a slav or albanian. if you look Phoenician than You can call yourself Greek.
bootystuffer 7 months ago
@bootystuffer We Greeks know our history well , fanatic Albanian muslim asshole. You muslim fanatics like some Turks, and Iranians are the scum of the earth. Not only you are muslim fanatics, but you are foolish, ignorant, uneducated propagandists. Your hatred toward Christians, and western cultures is very obvious, if you believe that educated people will be fooled by your shit logic, you are very mistaken, your own writings exposed your sick minds for all to see. We still proud ignorant fool
soNofLeoniDasandLas 7 months ago
@soNofLeoniDasandLas : I am actually Albanian Catholic. First of the First & puriest of the pure. I come from the topalli clan who fought along side of skenderbeg during the 8th crusdaes. Hatred towards christians? I see you are just merely a punk-ass teenager who has been confusing global poltics by watching to much media. Most Albanian who you are considering muslims are Muslimized christians. And the only christians we hate is the greek orthodox church due to opression against Albanians.
bootystuffer 7 months ago
@bootystuffer Catholics should respect Greeks.You do not know Greek history well it is obvious .The Greeks never oppress Albanians, the only Albanians that we killed were the muslim Albanians who came to Greek lands under the Turkish flag to kill Greeks .Stop insulting Greeks because you create unnecessary hatred. Part of my ancestry is from Ipiros ,NormanIpirotans , and they killed a Kaptain of Ali Pasha, and his guards when they tried to intimidate them, after that they went to Manh, Greece
soNofLeoniDasandLas 7 months ago
@soNofLeoniDasandLas the muslim albanian changed to survive they are still albanian just because a man changes his relgion to islam dont make him turks or arab us albanians gave all you malaka history you stoled it greeks never fougth no turks when the turks where weak then you greeks fougth them pls stop your bs it was us who fougth and fougth until the turks made a deal with serbs to kill us at the end because they could not controle us anymore greeks serbs and turks are the same
greateralbania1912 2 months ago
@greateralbania1912 You are very ignorant about history . First of all the Greeks always fought the Turks , my ancestors were warriors for many centuries , some of my ancestors killed a Captain of that punk shit of a man Ali Pasha- who many dumb Albanians call a hero-they cut his throat and three of his body guards. By saying this I know that some Albanians respect , and love Greek people, I know this because I had Albanian friends, who do not like some of you racist anti Greek fools. Those are-
soNofLeoniDasandLas 2 months ago
@greateralbania1912 continue.... I do not need anyone to tell me about my history because I know it well from my "Lan" Neolithic ancestors, to my " Dorian" ancestors , I know all the periods through our 8.000 year History . History that you , and many bigot fools do not know. From our brave "stratodromoi" Spartan warriors , to the Maniates, and every detail throughout our glorious history. Go sell your stupid propaganda to ignorant people like yourself. If you were smart, and a man of honor y--
soNofLeoniDasandLas 2 months ago
@bootystuffer At one time this argument didn't exist when relatives of three religions lived under one roof and received blessings from priest, prefti or hodzha. Secular nationalism separated families and now we are scattered across the globe and still argue on YT. There are Greeks with name Zymantakis as Arvanite and Chamourians were much closer in the past.
IanHunedoara8 4 months ago
@bootystuffer <===== hahaha zero of a man , full of hate, chicken brain - IQ, 16 - favorite sport ,throwing bananas-- favorite place, "kutumbe" forest in Nigeria or as the locals call it "the chimpanzee forest" -- favorite saying, ouuouuuguuouaaaouuaaaaa guuuuuggouaauaua
soNofLeoniDasandLas 7 months ago
@giannisarv : ik qiu gikannis
bootystuffer 7 months ago
Lovely , proud origin !!
SKIROJ 1 year ago
the truth is that when osman taka lived,both neo-hellenic(greek) and albanian national identities were just starting to form...it is also a fact that in ancient times the area of south-albania/northern-epirus "belonged" to hellenic tribes.ilyrians were much norther...but the ancient world was destroyed.and in the 19th century there was an ellino-albano-rwmaio-slaviko-vlaxiko-normando-xristiano-tourkiko situation!..so? JUST ENJOY THE MUSIC!...and music also "sufered" these mixtures...
aab1221baa 1 year ago
@aab1221baa wot a pile of shit haha, ilyrian tribes lived north hahaha
kapo1821 1 year ago
@kapo1821 you are an idiot.you disgrace and offend the nation,religion,race,clan(klara),family,culture that you claim to be a part of.....it should be mentioned in Kanun( from the greek word "κανών") that the likes of you must die and fed to the pigs.
aab1221baa 1 year ago
@aab1221baa kanun greek word hahahah. close ur mouth cos it stinks cos u takin shit ashole. nation of pedofiles
kapo1821 1 year ago
@kapo1821 thank you for being so stupid!you make me feel better...though i also feel sory for many proud and serious Albanians i know because they are "cursed" with a worthless gathering of meat like you!we also have likes of you in Greece...all idiot uneducated dogs look and speak alike...and as for history you can read some if you want-if you dare!!!and please write again you justify me every time!
aab1221baa 1 year ago
@aab1221baa haha, ignorant ashole. you wish u had people like there u ugly fuck
kapo1821 1 year ago
@kapo1821 it took you all this time to think and write...that! again i'm telling you: your stupidity and ignorance makes me feel GOOD!
aab1221baa 1 year ago
@aab1221baa well sum people hav got lifes ashole. they r not like u, no friends, no girlfriend, just spending their time on line even takin th free tour on porn websites cos moneys hav run out. do u get picture numnut haha
kapo1821 1 year ago
@kapo1821 Checkmate motherfucker!you just ended it...you acuse me of all these but YOU're the one who replied to my comment!i commented to a beautiful song and any logical mind can understand what i wrote.you didn't even write an opinion you just tried to "play the swearing village idiot".
aab1221baa 1 year ago
@aab1221baa 1st of all i dont play ches, its an old mans game, 2nd yes i am a motherfucker, i fucked ur mother haha. now go and wank urself malaka
kapo1821 1 year ago
@kapo1821 look to my previous comment.it proves me right.
aab1221baa 1 year ago
@aab1221baa you=brainwashed
kapo1821 1 year ago
Dance of Zalongo
Greeks claim it as theirs. What a joke. :D
Thirsty0010 1 year ago
when greeks realised that them national heroes where albanian, and when albanians realised that them national heroes where greeks....maybe these nations will have a better future....
lefkaros1 1 year ago
Ο ΠΕΤΡΟ ΛΟΥΚΑΣ ΔΕ ΠΑΙΖΕΤΑΙ ΑΚΟΜΑ ΚΑΙ Η ΞΕΝΟΙ ΤΟΝ ΕΧΟΥΝΕ ΣΤΑ ΒΙΝΤΕΟ ΤΟΥΣ
evgiotis 1 year ago
Good video but you could have added in the dance for example. There is no doubt, albanians are great dancers and so were their ancestors. Anyways, lets just learn about Osman Taka and not claim him, he belongs to the world.
Peace
Illyria2 1 year ago 4
@Illyria2
My point is to speak the truth.
Other people are claimming him .........and calling this dance 'siamantakas' just becouse they can't say his name
TheChamerian 1 year ago 5
@TheChamerian and you cant say the name cameria and the name valle!!!epirus is albania!!!Epirus-Cameria!!!4-EVER ALBANIA!!!
pirokorcari 1 year ago
@Illyria2 I agree with you my friend that Osman Taka is a vision for everyone who lives in the balcans. He was so notorious that he has been remembered and singed by both albanians and greeks for his courage and vigor. He is a link not a factor that distinguishes nations.
Chthonios77 1 year ago
you are unhistority man !
21parat 1 year ago
ladies and gentlemen you are listening to Petroloukas Halkias solo of Osman takas song. Petroloukas Halkias is the best clarinet player in Greece...
Deaqr mr. Chamerian you should have refer to the musician..
ledbyPikeBishop 1 year ago
@ledbyPikeBishop
Yes he is Petrolukas....Great clarinet player.
TheChamerian 1 year ago
@ledbyPikeBishop Who the fuck is Petroloukas? This song is hundrit years old.
but you are used to put others work your name. pfffffffff fuck off, its not your foult, you are just greek
oxhaku7 1 year ago
@oxhaku7 Petroloukas is the clarinet-player in the specific track.
you will get used to it. by then try to talk properly. but its not your fault, you are just an albanian nationalist
ledbyPikeBishop 1 year ago
@ledbyPikeBishop Petropulas Halkias Is The Best Player In Greece Of Albanian Songs In Greek Language!!!
pirokorcari 1 year ago
@pirokorcari who is Petropulas?
Petrolukas by the way is the best clarinet player of epirotic folk music.
whether this kind of music is of greek or albanian origin is not a fact that albanian nationalists like you will decide.
ledbyPikeBishop 1 year ago
@pirokorcari the epirotic folk music "derives" from the rich greek musical culture and has many similar points with albanian folk music.
but this kind of clarinet playing like Petroluka's is typical greek epirotic. check out other albanian covers of the song "Osmantakas" to find out the different style of clarinet playing.
Does in Elbasan the music sounds like that? No... Why? Because this kind of music is the greek epirotic music which is common to albanian epirotic music though.
cheers
ledbyPikeBishop 1 year ago
@ledbyPikeBishop
All good ...but don't tell Albanian covers.
This is Albanian song.And it is called 'Osman Taka'.
Greeks can not spell it so you tell the song osmantakas or siamantakas.
But I have to tell that I have heard Petroloukas singing in Albanian Cham dialect.
TheChamerian 1 year ago
@ledbyPikeBishop yeah right, osman taka. osman. is a muslim turk name. you are orthodox . this song is from an albanian dancer. look this /watch?v=bsjUKLn9c94
agon1984 1 year ago
@ledbyPikeBishop : why is this greek clarinet palyer playing the osman taka dance.. or is this another attempt of greeks caliming our heros.
bootystuffer 10 months ago
@bootystuffer this is the greek cover of the song. the way the clarinet player-Petroloukas plays is the way of Moiroloi song. i suppose Osmantakas song in albanian way of clarinet playing should be quite close but not similar.
in greece, Osman Takas as a historic figure is totaly unknown. Nobody knows him and as a matter of fact nobody claims him as a hero.
The song, whether it speaks of an albanian, Osman Takas or not, it is popular but in this aspect, the greek one.
ledbyPikeBishop 9 months ago
@ledbyPikeBishop : you know what thats fine.but we would appreicate it you just mind your own songs and stick to them.no more covers.. we all have enough troubles dealing with ignoarant greeks ( not you in this case) who consider stuff like this greek. We have been neighborhs for a long time and i understand we have parallel cultures, but its very annoying and irritating always being overshadowed and being undreminded in our won rights and identity to claims that specifically belong to us.
bootystuffer 9 months ago
@bootystuffer i did not say that this is a greek cover of an albanian song. i said that this is the greek way of the specific song.
maybe the first to sang this song was albanian, who knows. but throughout decades as usually done in "traditional" music -music produced by communities and not a specific artist- this song has become o common song, albanian and greek. the greek cover is this one of Petroloukas.. meaning the melody, the lyrics, the way performed etc.
ledbyPikeBishop 9 months ago
@bootystuffer the albanian way is like this : watch?v=I-22udO3elc&feature=related
don't you agree?.. i repeat, maybe the roots of this song, Osman Takas as a historical being even, maybe it is from albanian communities. but this song is also popular in greek hepirotic communities more than a century, and the way greeks performs it is like this, as Moiroloi, thats why this is more than just a cover...
ledbyPikeBishop 9 months ago
@ledbyPikeBishop :
thats fine.. we are takin over your picruka song... we play it in our wedding, its so damn catchy. it will only be an albanian cover :)
bootystuffer 7 months ago
@ledbyPikeBishop lol do you see any gentlemen in here? I see mostly donkeys , except you , and few others ... hahahaha
soNofLeoniDasandLas 7 months ago
when albanians and greeks will finally live normally as a normal neighbors. finally, they have many things in common in history and ethnicity.
rivularia 1 year ago 2
@rivularia They are same great nation,
Chthonios77 1 year ago
is from CAMERIA ALBANIAN you sun of a bitches
85cham 1 year ago
EIPHROS ELLAS FOR EVER
gregoification 2 years ago
@gregoification in your dreams idiot
ViniTheFuture 1 year ago
@ViniTheFuture SIRE gamisou
gregoification 1 year ago
@gregoification english idiot because we dont talk your ugly fukking language, motherfukker
ViniTheFuture 1 year ago
@ViniTheFuture se gamo kai klanis kai paidia den kanis
gregoification 1 year ago
Απάντηση σε αυτό το βίντεο... se gamo kai klanis kai paidia den kanis
gregoification 1 year ago
osman taka is the best danc in greec...even grek like ...albanian forever..
giordanwhite 2 years ago 8
so great.... .!!! ******
ethnikhart 2 years ago 8
you know why greeks and turks look similar to albanians?? coz our granphas fucked theyr wifes hahahaha probably lysander1920 has albanian blood who knows we fuck alot around the world can you blame us we are handsome man hahah
gencgashi 2 years ago
hey people an albanian is not a muslym a cristian nos a budist .its a perfect warrior who has god his companiero and his gun the perfect lover girl
ujkus 2 years ago
so great
5 stars
xxBiohazardHackerxx 2 years ago 3
Osman Taka, died, actually, at around 1875 (he was executed) and not these you support in the info tab... He was from Konispolis, near Sayias in Northern Epirus. He fought the Turkalbanians with hatred. It's said to have been of Albanian Origin, though many support that he was of Arvanitic (Konispolis had a Greek Majority, at that time). He was Christian, probably, and that's the why the Cham Turkalbanian and Muslim Bey of Margariti (or Pogoni) executed him...
lysander1920 2 years ago
with a name like osman, i doubt he was a christian. Perhaps your name is souleman my fellow christian?
eduakrishtin 2 years ago
My name is Your Fucker Taka. Never heard about Cryptochristians right? And you still speak... I admire your level of masturbation...
lysander1920 2 years ago
I admire your level of rafinement-check yourself in the mirror. Don't forget the magnifying glass deary. I know that you have trouble with your eyesight-. Don't kiss it, it's your reflection:)
eduakrishtin 2 years ago
Indeed, I have a problem with my eyesight, since I "put out my own eyes" when I took a hell of a good care of yourself...! I must admit, you have a very nice ass... However, you have a group of shit for mind! Your avoidance of answering my question, shows your level agnorance...
lysander1920 2 years ago
My original comment wasn't for you kissasser. So go find someone else to bully around, I don't have time to waste with degenerate beings like yourself...
eduakrishtin 2 years ago
Lol you reply to my comment and you werent reffering to me... They do well when the call you "ALBANIANS" name and thing...
lysander1920 2 years ago
What a moronic faggot. Taka is clearly an Albanian last name and is only found in Konispol. Go suck cock gyftopontian.
eroshi 2 years ago
Im not your mother so I aint gonna suck my cock, alright kid? If you wanna see such a show tell your mummy.
lysander1920 2 years ago
You suck your own cock? wow. I knew greeks suck each other's cocks but I didn't know they suck their owns cocks as well.
eroshi 2 years ago
Yeah its a custom we took from Albanians. When the Chams were here we used to fuck the young and old girls. The poor cham boys were fucking each other. But when you left we took the custom.... Pity...
lysander1920 2 years ago
Nah, chams don't have such customs. Gyftopontians for sure.
eroshi 2 years ago
A yes you're right. Gyftopontians had such a custom. But what about the Turkochams? Or the turkish sperm that is deeply burried and lost in the dark pussy of your mummy? Anyways there is a major difference between a Pontian and a Gyftopontian. Gyftopontians actually look like and behave like Albanians. The others are Greeks. Say hello to your sister I like gypsy and turkish fucked asses, jerk.
lysander1920 2 years ago
Turkochams is something that the gyftopontian sperm filled brain invented. There are only Cham Albanians, Muslim or Orthodox. Muslim chams were killed and expelled, while the orthodox ones were assimilated and many of them became heroes of arvanitoslavovlahopontia. There is no major difference, all pontians are dark anatolians, middle eastern people that faggotistan calls greeks because they are orthodox. Now go on and do what you said a few comments before, about sucking your own cock.
eroshi 2 years ago
Lol! Fool!! When the Pontians had Universities, Schools and Unofficial Government respecting the Human Rights, you were feeding sheep in Tirane and Shkodra (which is, also, a place in Georgia - Caucasus)... Besides, go to google and type "Eveline Kazantzoglou" and watch out a really dark "Turkopontian" from "Faggotistan" (What's this? Albania in Pakistani Version?) And I recommend to have a look on Hoxha's "Illyrian" name or Osman Taka's Illyrian one... Go worship Allah, Turkosperm, poor nany!!!
lysander1920 2 years ago
Your garbage ass asiatic fuck ass is still here? You're still confusing religion with ethnicity you fuck? Shhh pussy ass ignorant arvantislavovlahopontian with an asiatic semitic identity called orthodox christianity.
eroshi 2 years ago 2
Hmmm... Nothing called an argument... Alright... Turkoserbomontenegroitalianomongolo "illyrian"... with the ancient religion of the illyrians, the allah who fucks your mamma,,,,,,Come pseudo - "Illyrian" come and free the pseudo cameria, come to us to fuck your mum better then your dad Suleyman the Magnificent did. Like the Greek boss who fucked your sister for a piece of bread, filthy turkomuslim communist.
lysander1920 2 years ago
Nothing called an argument is your name, and your identity is an asiatic sick ideology. We will come to fuck all arvanitoslavovlahopontian females even more than the 500000 albanians are already doing. We will liberate our land just like the arvanites and souliotes our ancestors did, this time from orthodox asiatic anatolians. As far as who gave females to the ottomans to fuck, remember that the mehmed the conquerer's mother was greek. Once again another degenerate tradition of greeks
eroshi 2 years ago 3
Ahahahahahaha ok so come and lets ssee illyrian with Ataturks father was an Illyrian too Ali Riza the great Turkalbanian even turkish history tells that, fine illyrian come and try to rape females just as we do, we fucked you 4 times in 30 years and after communist fell we fuck you every day since 20 years now i remember when i was a kid the neighbor hitting an albo monkey asiatic black man in the face with his hands even though ther greek had slept with the albo's wife, come and lets do again!
lysander1920 2 years ago
Your gay rage has made you forget how to write proper English. That's right we gave the turks men, and you gave them women and our man fucked those women. We don't need to rape any females, we fuck them of their own free will because arvanitoslavovlahopontians are too busy cornholing each other in the ass. Most married greek women have an Albo lover which fucks the shit out of them and probably quite a few are pregnant by that Albo lover. We will populate your filthy rotten country with albo
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agon1984 1 year ago
@eroshi He is Pontian, not Vlahe. I am Epirote and I don't argue about origins about Pontian Bouboula music. Even Zervas would have agreed with the message of this video.
IanHunedoara8 2 years ago
if u wanna talk about human rights dont make me start buddy, Albania was one of the FIRST worldwide countries that alowed women to vote ( when did they start in greece? '50s?), albanians DONT care about each others religious beleifs, and nationality etc etc etc. example? i give u the best there is... MOTHER TERESA, true albanian spirit, caring, big hearted generous and kind.
streetracervti 2 years ago 6
more i qelbur po dhe per vallen e osman takes diskuton ,po e ka emrin osman mooooorrrre derr nuk e ka emrin spiro ,po ishte cami osman taka more ,po cameria nuk kercen me klarino more ,apo duhet qe camet te kendojin labce ,ty je anormal njeri....
muniminoritar 2 years ago
super video dhe kenge
gjoleka 2 years ago
Excellent music and video!!!
eduakrishtin 2 years ago
ec aty osman taka bravo per chamerian
85cham 2 years ago 2
Panagiote, people who have a college education are not necessarily "educated people"--to be educated is a state of mind. Educated people don't use terms such as "monkey faces" ; Oh, perhaps you are just looking at yourself in the mirror...lol...
eduakrishtin 2 years ago
Hahahahahahah! Excellent joke! Actually, he was speaking with an Albanian, like you and so he was looking at HER face... That's why he spoke like that. And by the way, AxelDevil, too, pretends the smart, without knowing what it means and writes bullshit... So, SHE got the answer SHE deserved...
lysander1920 2 years ago
No quite deary. He mistook you for a Turk- that is what happened.
eduakrishtin 2 years ago
No I dont think Im like your face. Maybe a lot worse but never Turkobastard like you. Either way its HER job to be fool like yours f.e.
lysander1920 2 years ago
I don't know Panagiotellis, but last reference to Chams , was from your University Teachers..
4 University academics in History .........
they said clear things about Chams.... YOUR TEACHERS parakalo....
can you tell us what they said , and why they said all that , was that wrong , non historical ?
Axeldevil 2 years ago
No discussion of this matter is complete without the history of Nanos brothers -Fathis and Mazarakas. There is a complete media blackout about them and I am hoping that people from Ioannina and Parmythia area can fill in objective details. Who were they why were they executed?
IanHunedoara8 2 years ago
Can you tell us about them?
TheChamerian 2 years ago
Fathi and Mazar Neno- this is the Chamerise pronunciation of their names. Mazar is referrred to but not by name in the Zervas video. My father knew much about what happened but never told me- none of the Ioannina community in NYC want to talk about it. from that generation because events 1940-49 was like one big nightmare for them.
IanHunedoara8 2 years ago
One thing is sure...We don't know the truth about them.
I also have asked people but the one I asked were Albanians so I need to hear the other side.
TheChamerian 2 years ago
He spoke much about Aristides Diamandis- as being a traitor from our own (Vlahe) community and the need to force him to flee from Greece before he made us all liable for his actions. We viewed him more as a pathetic tragicomic figure, not a traitor. My parent's conversatins about Epirus was mostly in the "old language"
IanHunedoara8 2 years ago
Chams and Arvanites are both Tosk Albanians
Axeldevil 2 years ago
Arvanites are Dorian Greeks and Chams are traitors to every Great Power, each age (Austria, Germanz, Italy, USA)....
Panagiotellis 2 years ago
Katalavaineis ellinika Panagiotellis ? giati nomizw oti mplofareis...
Axeldevil 2 years ago
Man, I'm Greek Arvanite... Is that so hard to understand? Am I saying something difficult? Φυσικά και καταλαβαίνω, ρε... Η γλώσσα μου είναι, τι θες...;! And I speak also a little Arvanitika "Grecia ishtë më i madhi, më e mire edhe më i bukurë nga Shqepperië... Edhe, u jam Greci Arvanitis!..."
Panagiotellis 2 years ago
Psile (gliati) , kaneis lathos.......
Axeldevil 2 years ago
I'm Arvanite Greek, Panagiotis Aristotelis Gliatis and if you don't like, stop speaking rubbish... Never I could imagine that an Albanian could tell me to be taught history... It's clear dude: Even if Arvanites are Albanians, I don't feel Albanian and I never want to be... It;s my right to chose a nation with History and Culture than an unwashed and uncivilized nation who stole the watch of George Bush and licks his balls... You don't have even to eat and you speak... Thanks, Axeldevil!
Panagiotellis 2 years ago
Wait , I didn't said that you are albanian , since you don't have an albanian passport.... but genetically you are one, if you are arvanite..
now back to Topic.........
Can a 4th-student in the Macedonian University of History in Thessalonica
claim that Albanians Came from Caucasus ?
thats Ridiculous loooooooooooooool on that
how about Scanderbeg.......
man your pathetic with your claims... non historical 100%
Axeldevil 2 years ago
Aris, take a mirror and look at the reflection before making any comments.
eduakrishtin 2 years ago
Panagiotellis................ go learn some history mate... you are amateur...
Axeldevil 2 years ago
Hahahahaha! Yeah, that kind of comment I could never imagine... Man, I'm 4th-student in the Macedonian University of History in Thessalonica... And I need to be taught, eh? Alright! You can teach me how you originate from Pelasgians and all these 5000 years you are a clean nation... Clean nation of monkeys, maybe...
Panagiotellis 2 years ago
YoshiVIP, do you see anyone in Greece like them? Everywhere they go, people resist! None says Osman Taka was Greek... We don't know what he was feeling... Did he called you and said "Hi, I'm Osman Taka, Albanian patriot!"...? Up till 1918, Albania was to be an autonomous part of Greece... But the Central Empires, didn't want Greece and Serbia have power in the Balkans! We are not the same and never gonna be! So, If you don't have anything foolish to say, quit commenting, please...
Panagiotellis 2 years ago
You have to realised that the Albanians and Greeks...we are historical brothers...we are the same nation...and our languages have the same start....we are Pelasgi...the same nation....one day we ll be again,,,I promise
YoshiVIP 2 years ago
In this I have to agree......
TheChamerian 2 years ago
Did they said you, that kind of lie, eh? Where? 'Cause in no school or official (both political and scientific), such thing is known... Greeks, have nothing to do with Albanians. Not genetically, culturally, historically, religionally or anything else... The Ancient Greek tribe of the Pelasgians were named after Pelagus (Πέλαγος)... The Albanians came in the area of Balcans after the Roman Conquest of Atropatene Medea... They coriginate from Azerbaijan... Go be taught history, kid...
Panagiotellis 2 years ago
This is the history you learn in Greece?
Pelasgians and not Pelagians were many years before Ancient Greeks appear.(here I have to say that you have nothing to do with them)....
Now for Albanians ...history goes like this...Pelasgians - Illyrians -Albanians.
TheChamerian 2 years ago
Actually, the History we've been learning here, is higher quality than yours... If I, as Greek, have nothing to do with the Pelasgians who had Greek names, and worship Greek Gods, the you, what do you have to do? Illyrians have nothing to do with you. You came as Slaves of Romans till 2BC, slaves of Arabians till 9AC and Turks till 14AC. Indeed, Albanians are a clear nation... If we judge from your Monkey faces, then History is revealed...
Panagiotellis 2 years ago
Yes I know best quality....lol
I have to inform you that Pelasgians names were not (Takis...Mitsos....Lakis) and thay don't even knew the greek God Jesus Christos .
Even in the Greek books they say that
Illyrians =Albanians.
Some of our (monkey faces you have for nacional heroes)
TheChamerian 2 years ago
Takis, Lakis, Mitsos are not Greek names but nicknames... Nikolaos, Panagiotis, Dimitrios (The Pelasgians had God Dimitra), Vasilios (The Pelasgians had Vasileu)... Even if they didn't have these names, did they have Murat, Enkjol, Hasan etc...? Come on! And Jesus Christ(Blessed Be His Name) was not Greek... Was Hebrew. Greek Gods (also the Pelasgians had them) were Ares, Zeus, Demeter, Aphrodite etc... No Greek book says you're Illyrians.
Panagiotellis 2 years ago
The Christians came and destroyed the ancient civization.The names that you Greeks have are common christian names.
I wrote it before we fought the Ottomans and we had to pay the price.(greeks didn't fought and even their church was against the war)
I have one Greek book here ,it is colled 'ΣΧΟΛΙΚΗ ΕΓΚΥΚΛΟΠΑΙΔΙΑ'
Εκδοσεις Χρ.Γιοβανη.
TheChamerian 2 years ago
In this, I have to agree. The major enemy of the Hellenic Ancient Civilization was Christianity and the Roman Emperors. But, the Greek Spirit, Philosophy, way of life and tradition remained... You fought the Ottomans on the side of Skenderbej during Middle Ages! Later you fought ALONG with the Ottomans. I don't suppose the Church! The greatest traitors was inside it (even today that's a fact). I don't know this book. I only know what a hero of Greek Revolution wrote that time...
Panagiotellis 2 years ago
We all know that Greece is a 'Theokratiko' country.
Even today your leaders swear to the Bible.
How the ancient spirit remain untouched?
No my friend you use the ancient only for tourists.
Who is that hero?
Please don't lie to me (most of them didn't know to write or read)
TheChamerian 2 years ago
Greece is, sadly, a democratic country not a theocratic... Theocratic means that the Church is above all and the High Priest has all power... The High Priest of Greek Church is the Patriarch and he's not even in Greece... He's in Constantinople. And he has no power over politics... They swer to the Bible, because it means they speak the truth... The ancient spirit is the union of Greek People and all those barbarian nations around us trying to steal our civilization. Quite simple.
Panagiotellis 2 years ago
Is that fact that the church have the most money and land in Greece?
The patriarch in Constandinople is just a title for politic use nothing more.
When in Greece the state desided to erase the religion from your pasports did the church called people to demostrade or not?(this is political moove)
The ancient Greece has nothing to do with bible.
TheChamerian 2 years ago
Hahahahaahahahahaa!!! Of course not! The most money in Greece are been held by the Buisness men like Vardinogiannis, Kokkalis, Vgenopoulos all of whom hold not just the Greek Economy but those of Skopje, Bulgaria, Serbia and Albania, too... We may not have a large army like Turkey, but we're decades more improved... The Patriarch of Constantinople is just a title in the Church. He has not political powers (Greek Constitution Proclaim). Religion has nothing to do with origins
Panagiotellis 2 years ago
Of course not?
Speak tha truth my man.
The church is the biggest owner of the land in Greece.And priest are involved in every politic and ekonomic game.(look Vatopaidi)
TheChamerian 2 years ago
Vatopedion is called not Vatopaidi. Vatopaidia are your co-patriots (boy of trees)... I'm speaking the truth... You say, I don't know what's going on in my country? Because the Albanian Government thinks that it has the power of USA to say whatever rubbish they wish, it doesn't mean you know the truth. Man, you don't know why your stomach makes sounds (out of hunger) and you speak of policy in foreign countries...? T.Rousopoulos (former journalist and politician) is the main responsible!
Panagiotellis 2 years ago
As it seems you don't have no idea what is going on in your country.
In court was not sent T.Rousopoulos but the priests of vatopaidi-on.
TheChamerian 2 years ago
I didn't said that Rousopoulos paid for the stealing he did... They managed to cover him till he retires (he did the day before yesterday) . It's common sence and probably true, that when Samaras opened the Greek Borders in the early 90s' and all these proud "Pelasgo-Illyrio-Aryan" hungry wolves came here (I was a little kid then, remember them begging for job or bread) he and all politicians adopted the only thing you should be proud of "The Albanian Way of Stealing and Breaking The Law"...
Panagiotellis 2 years ago
You jumb from one topic to another.
I understand that you have to insult because you can't support what you say.
But if were not these ungry wolves to build your stadiums how could your country make Olympic games?
TheChamerian 2 years ago
And you cannot play jokes on me, Shepperie or how the hell is written, is the official name of your state and Shqiptar means Son of the Eagle.... Arvanitis in Greek means the man who originates from the area of Arvanon or Alvanopolis in Epirus Despotate...
Panagiotellis 2 years ago
And by the way, Chamerian, I along with 87% of the Greek population (according to tele and net-voting) don't want them here. The capitalist government of ND brought them here in order to work as slaves (that they are), because Greek Families needed more money. And the stadiums were built long before you came here. Even if, although, they were built by Albanians, who cares?? No one will ever know. They way you treated 400.000 Northern Epirotans there, should those "people" be treated here.
Panagiotellis 2 years ago
I have heard that things are difrent now in Greece.
Albanians are bying your shops and homes.
I am sorry to say that but you don't know what you say
TheChamerian 2 years ago
That's not a lie... 20 years now, they didn't eat bread, in order to buy home or car and shout everywhere they're Greeks. They want to be like Greeks. They do everything about that, from changing names and religion up to denying being of Albanian roots. And many of these kids, don't want to see Albania, again... And the big houses are bought by drug sellers. Our homes and shops are ours, not theirs. You are not in Greece, you don't know. "Stop speaking words you don't know what they mean!"
Panagiotellis 2 years ago
Changing names and religion is a trick that greek state use for better asimilation.
For Albanians is very dificult to use their real names and religion in Greece cause they will have problem with their green kard.Only if you put one new greek name and say I am vorioepirotis and your paper will be ready in one day.
TheChamerian 2 years ago
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaa!!!!1
Man, stop it...! Do you, really, know what's going in inside the Greek State...? Of course, not... The Greek Government doesn't seek assimilation... Tries to find out a way to send them back! And they do not recognise Albanians from North Epirotans, sadly... No, they change names because they live here 20 years and if you say something about Albania, they speak of no food, electricity etc... That's why!
Panagiotellis 2 years ago
From that what you write I believe I know better than you what's going on inside Greece.
Expecialy in this subject.
You keep typing about food and money like it is everything .
Is this a lie that Albanians have money in Greek banks.....?
TheChamerian 2 years ago
Yeah, you know like "Theokratiko", the court and Rousopoulos, clear Pelasgians and the issue with the denial of identity of modern Albanians in Greece. You teach me, although, that know-it-all Albanians are not just here in Greece but also there and everywhere. I cannot know what money does have every Greek citizen in Greek banks. But I know, that Albanian with money means drug seller or hired killer. And, also, now, you jump subjects etc. It's clear that they deny you, accept it.
Panagiotellis 2 years ago
All these were answers to what you said.
Tell me tha policman before 3 days Albanians killed him too?Before the Albanians came you had no drugs in Greece?Albanians with money means someone who works and not drinking coffe with dad's money.
TheChamerian 2 years ago