Your kidding right? You know nothing of mma.. This was years and years ago when Werdum was much younger and lindland was still relevant. Now he loses to anyone decent and fights at 185 pounds whereas Werdum is a heavyweight fresh off a win over Fedor and has beaten Overeem in the past and multiple top 10 heavyweights. So
Your rash predictions that lindland would beat up Werdum is ridiculous.
Werdum reminded me of Aoki in this match...very patient and slowly slithering his way toward the finish in a very impressive strategic grappling battle.
Werdum claims he has a black belt in judo, which should mean he should have good stand up skills ... he pulled guard like 4 times? Ass dragging at its finest, I tell you that! Yes, he beat Fedor (major props for that) and the whole world is saying it was a fluke .. hell Werdum hinted on it as well ... that's why he wants a rematch to prove that if he beats him again that the first time was no fluke.
P.S. What the F. is Lindland doing in ADCC match? His a Greco guy with amateur submissions!
@pcjudosambo Alot of high level BJJ players have studied Wrestling and Judo. Alot of the Gracie Brothers were college wrestlers or have studied Judo. There focus is BJJ and quite frankly, you do what works best. Fabricio's strength is his guard, with those long ass legs of his. For example, my strength is mount or side control. My legs aren't very long and I have a hard time keeping someone in my guard. So I mastered sweeps and worked on my throws that work a high percentage in my weight class.
@daridp i've seen Werdum grapple dozens of times in grappling matches and MMA and I yet to see his "judo or wrestling" skills. When I watch Sambo guys like Fedor, Oleg Taktarov or Judo guys like Karo, Yoshida, Akiyama... I see their Judo or Sambo. Even when I watch Chael S. or Hendo or Matt Hughes, I see their wrestling .. for some reason I do not see Werdum's wrestling or Judo (takedowns, reversals) he always pulls guard
@pcjudosambo Because guard is his strong point, he started BJJ before he did Judo. A BJJ player who adds Judo/Sambo/Wrestling to his game isn't necesarrily going to use it offensively. However notice that with Lindlands strong wrestling skills he wasn't able to take Fabricio to the ground on his terms. FW was able to effectively stop takedowns and bring ML to the ground on his. That is where alot of BJJ guys use their takedown skills. I do Judo Gi/No-Gi if you are wondering my background.
@daridp The problem is NOT the pulling guard itself (Im sure it's his strong point). The problem is the RULES that allow pulling guard. BJJ based comps are the ONLY in the world that allow pulling guard. Sambo, Judo, Wrestling does not. Personally, I believe that if you remove pull guard from the rules, you would see fighters use their judo or wrestling takedown skills. P.S. Lindland would take him down in a wrestling match... he was just slow here for some reason that I dont know.
@pcjudosambo Your confusing several different martial arts. Yes if you pull guard in Judo you will Ippon yourself and lose. If you pull guard in wrestling you will get pinned and lose. There have been wrestlers/Judo players who have gone to the ADCC and have done very well. Maybe you should look at the fact that Fabricio Werdum has great takedown defense. In grappling there are literally a thousand ways to get to the finish line. FW's is different from yours, mine is different from yours.
@daridp I agree with you, good point. I know some wrestlers, sambo guys and judokas have competed and succeeded in ADCC, but honestly, I do not look at ADCC as the #1 test for a grappler because the rules favor BJJ type rules. Heck, co-creator of ADCC is a BJJ black belt. I'm still not convinced that Werdum has a good standup game. Grapplers like Fedor, Gekor, "Judo" Gene, Taktarov, Shinya Aoki, Dean Lister, Rickson Gracie .. ALL fought in different arts/styles and won. These are great grapplers
@pcjudosambo If you notice that in most MMA matches Fabricio ends up on his back. Sometimes having someone in your guard backfires. IE. When Rampage Jackson picked up Fabricio Werdum who had just synched up a triangle and slammed him so hard he knocked him out.
@daridp oh yeah, that's why many asked why Fedor never slammed Werdum as well.. oh well. I admit and know that Werdum has one of the sickest submission skills in the industry. Being a sub guy does not declare you a grappler as a whole. To tap out Fedor means A LOT. If Werdum goes to Judo comps and wins, if he goes to Sambo comps and wins, if he goes to Wrestling comps and wins WHILE winning in BJJ/ADCC and MMA ... I'll be his biggest fan because he would be a top grappler.
@tonysoprano0316 Was probaly mislabeled, I only ever saw the video on youtube. I also have a very hard time picking brazilians apart. Good catch though, thankyou.
@daridp Other people have already pointed out that you named the wrong fighter, but i'd also like to point out that anything in mma can backfire. Deciding to stand and trade can backfire....badly. If someone is as skilled as werdum has you in their guard, you're in trouble, the goal is to get out of that guard, and he's gonna be trying to keep you there. If you're good, you use the guard to control their posture so they can never throw any powerful punches.
@hzuiel ill take top position any day in MMA. you are going to be eating a facefull of punches if you pull guard on an equally skilled grappler in MMA who can also strike.
@maxsteelee The point is that a skilled jiu jitsu practitioner can do more from his guard than he can standing usually, so why stand and bang where the punches are more powerful? If you're actually good and your opponent is just "meh" on the ground, if you pull guard, they should be under you in less than a minute. Then they are the one raining punches. There are numerous sweeps from full guard.
@hzuiel i understand, but if you are grappling someone on equal or near level than yourself, you are begging to be punched if you always pull guard. for instance, if this was matt lindland vs werdum in an MMA match, i think matt would win, cause he is capable of securing a more dominant position for strikes
@maxsteelee I was never talking about people on the same skill level at grappling, however, I still think a good jiu jitsu practitioner has a better chance pulling guard and then doing something from guard, than they do by standing and banging with someone who is better at standup than them. You go for whatever your strength is. If you're good on the ground, get the fight to the ground.
werdum would beat brock in a grappling match, this fight was over before it began! for you werdum haters, those of you who cal him "b" rate, you should further expand your knowledge of the ground game. werdum is one of the best ground fighters to ever enter mma!
Great vid! But wrestling would only be effective against bjj if they were wrestling rules. And if they were wrestling rules, a bjj dude would get pinned way more often because they work from their back a lot. And if you allow striking, like in mma the wrestler is extremely successful utilizing ground and pound. I like Werdum a lot more than Lindland but this wasn't a fair match-up at all
@M4Carbine434 I agree. ADCC was created by Sheik Tahnoon Bin Zayed Al Nahyan with his BJJ instructor. That's why BJJ rules are very, very similar to ADCC rules (almost identical). Matt Lindland was out of his mind to compete there. I mean, Matt Hughes is a great wrestler and excellent submissions .. even he had a hard at ADCC... Lindland had little chance since his submissions are weak. Take Werdum in a Judo/Sambo match, Fedor wins. Take Werdum in a wrestling match, Lindland owns him.
You can't say " You cant compare wrestling and BJJ " because those 2 sports are meant to compete, just like in MMA they are put to the test. If you ask me, BJJ seems to counter wrestling very well, I have seen that in Pride,WEC and numerous times in UFC.
@VIBoBoIV BJJ counters wrestling in BJJ/ADCC tournaments. In a wrestling comp, BJJ can't hold it's own. In Sambo, Judo .. BJJ has a hard time (only a few top level BJJ guys can compete fine in these two arts). In MMA (50/50) .. because there are many wrestlers who out compete many BJJ guys. If you include a great wrestler with massive submission power (eg Matt Hughes, Josh Barnett, and Sakuraba, hell even Brock & Carwin), you have an unstoppable force.
fabricio Werdum, should not fight him again, he will be known as the man who beat the very best in the world. He can go on now and open a school and be great the rest of his life. If he fight fedor again he will lose and his career will be over. Look at Matt Sarah. He should of just went away a winner. Another person that should of stoped was Gracie, He was at great status then he fought and ended up a loser for life.
Lindland survived longer in BJJ then Fedor, lol. Lindland prolly woulda beat Fedor also under different circumstances. This is by far my personal favourite grappling videos from the continuous varying attacks by Fabricio regardless of the opposition. If only all BJJ were this way.
@claudioagmfilho Minotauro beat Werdum in MMA competition. If they met at a grappling match, I'm not sure who'd win. And he's got better Jiu-Jitsu than Belfort. Belfort is a way better striker than Werdum though.
@Viperguy896 werdum has way better credentials in grappling than nog who has never really won anything.When nog beat fabricio in mma ,werdum was a novice at that game.
@utahboy86 Werdum is a 240lber matt usually walks around at 210 (212 for the Fedor fight) matt being a class act in wrestling skill wise will be at an advantage but size is suffering
@TheCymorelli a fading silver medalist of yesteryear at 175lbs vs a recent heavyweight ADCC champ......yeah your right it proves everything that is the power of bjj beating mere shades of a former life in place of someone more viable. its been this was since the first ufc where they scouted for tallent they couldnt lose too!
@TheCymorelli wrestling is only part of sub grappling,it needs bjj to complete it.You cant compare them since they are different sports with different rules.Id rather have a strong wrestling background before beginning bjj if I had the chance,someone like pablo popovitch would be my idol in grappling,good everywhere.
Fabricio, very smooth I could watch this all day again and again. Poetry in motion, Brasilian Jiu Jitsu in action at it's best, a Lion stalking and subduing it's prey.
@rajender23 couldnt have said it better, that was a beautiful armbar. like butter he transitioned into that there was nothing lindland could do about it.
@rajender23 bjj has a better guard,that is the only advantage.Fedor has already whupped big nog twice inside the guard,he got very careless with werdum though,just dove straight into the trap.I predict he'll win the rematch
Lion would never get to it's back because that means you give up aka you are a coward. Watch any Lion fight video and you will see that their fighting is just like classical wrestling, the object is to take you opponent down with your skills and your physique, not by hurting the opponent. The one that stays on it's back is the loser in the jungle.
That was a sweet transition from back control to an armbar, I do not think I have seen that one before. What is Lindland's deal competing against heavyweights, goodness the dude is a 185 pounder, let the big men face other big men.
scorched you may be right about the weight but lindland is just way smaller . L O O K. i'd be curious cause my guess would be werdum just cut enough for the class while lindland was at his largest competitive weight.
werdum is a top 3 true MMA HW and is a sub/ground master but lindland is great too. even rampage seemed WAY more managable against lindland
westreler may get the top position, or even a better postion but it still being impossible to ebat jiu jitsu fighters in the ground, westreler isn't done to sub someone...
yeah arlovski is better rounded, although i think werdum wanted to prove someting and stand with arlovski, i think it would be a different story if werdum tried more takedowns.
very cool, i'm sure matt didnt go in there just with intention on wrestling, but that is his foundation, like randy couture. gotta work on escaping subs :)
Arlovski is an incredible mma fighter. Why discount him because werdum is better at bjj? Was their fight a bjj match? Don't hate on Andre because he was better at mma.
well i cant say your wrong there. they guy doesnt wash coming up to fights so he can throw his oponents off with smell. he did that in the olympics im told. and all round he is just a whinger. like ken shamrock
o.k. mma fans the news is that ufc now owns pride.and now they are going to start paying their fighters millions for title fights.isn,t that fantastic? now we may see king fedor fight in the ufc.ifl,bodog,ufc,pride its just one big happy mma family.
yea i love pride but seeing all these people leave including all of btt big stars like big nog and so on probably means that prides going to tank. but i really want to see the arlovski/werdum fight and i want to see cro cop kick that gonzales guy head off too. should be the first good card in awhile for the ufc.
i believe once crocop is champion. something will happen that will shock the mma world. like pride getting bought by ufc or something. either way, i see crocop vs fedor 2 in the future. ufc heavyweight champ vs pride heavyweight champ would bring in the most sales. so maybe that will happen, but then again fedor could come to ufc.
as much as i love pride, i hate to say this, but everybody is going to end up in the ufc eventually
I hear you man, I love PRIDE but pride is going down hardcore, crocop left, gomi lost to ex UFC fighter, Wandy lost and PRIDE is having trouble itself, it could be like the ex Japanese MMA organzation KINGS...everybody left and it disappear on the planet
after wanderlei silva lost, pride lost alot of credibility. Because a 183 pounder who was 197 pounds when he fought vanderlei beat their top 3 LHW(UFC)/MIDDLEWEIGHT(PRIDE) champion.although i dont see fedor losing any time soon, until he faces crocop. nobody else can beat him
I don't know how old this is but Lindland has improved a lot in his Jiujistu over the past 2 years. Obviously he still favors GnP and uses his suppirior conditioning, which he could not here. Furthermore, Lindland is one of the top 185 pounders in the world in MMA. However because he is an independant he fights a lot of Heavyweights and doesn't get exposure. The real test is how he does in his fight in April against FEDOR ELEMENOPEEKO.
Actually, this wasn't the ADCC absolute class. This was the HW bracket which ,means they both weighed in within the same bracket. And besides, in this fight Lindland was completely outclassed in terms of skill, at the same weight Werdum would've destroyed him just as badly.
love the music! so mma and grappling r totally diffrent. by the way i love tha classic match Bjj vs wrestling no matter which style(bjj or wrestling) r the best but it depend on the person tha trains harder or longer all u gotta do it put ur mind in the game well i would like to see bjj vs wrestling or bjj vs judo even wrestling vs judo it will be awesome but im wrong wrestling dont were GI
yea the music kicks ass, a wrestler only usually knows a neck crack and maybe smoother submission otherwise its generally powering out of sub attempts
lol maybe it's just me but I feel like the person who ends up with a broken arm is the loser
Idrivethe405 3 months ago
is it me or the music made this video extremely gay ?
patryk8977 10 months ago 2
@patryk8977 i was just thinking about posting a comment saying the same thing :D
FifteenIsTheNumber 8 months ago
At 6'4" 250lbs one of the strongest and skilled BJJ fighters in MMA. Fedor underestimated him and got caught.
ramrod20042000 1 year ago
@ramrod20042000 250lbs No ! 255 - 260 lbs !
serguei92 1 year ago
excellence in basics. love the sit up sweep to kimura at a world class level
fatalarmadillo 1 year ago
@fatalarmadillo
Very basic hey? Do that all the time. Good to see it still works :p
DGrant1010 11 months ago
@DGrant1010 ha me too.
fatalarmadillo 11 months ago
Werdum's BJJ is sick!
MatrixMedal2 1 year ago
BJJ the Best !!!
Alexandr101 1 year ago
Damn Werdum is underrated his groundskills are worldclass
breakdancerQ 1 year ago
Как же этот бразилец любит мессионерскую позу:))
TheGangsterRus 1 year ago
@maxsteelee
Your kidding right? You know nothing of mma.. This was years and years ago when Werdum was much younger and lindland was still relevant. Now he loses to anyone decent and fights at 185 pounds whereas Werdum is a heavyweight fresh off a win over Fedor and has beaten Overeem in the past and multiple top 10 heavyweights. So
Your rash predictions that lindland would beat up Werdum is ridiculous.
Rastegarmma 1 year ago
Werdum is underrated imo
TruNikkaz 1 year ago
gaaaaaaaay
pepix1988 1 year ago
oh shit ! the wrestler became the jiu jitsus bitch!
thifwit2starz 1 year ago
BJJ is so fucking gay sometimes
bbv001 1 year ago
Werdum reminded me of Aoki in this match...very patient and slowly slithering his way toward the finish in a very impressive strategic grappling battle.
BrokenBard 1 year ago
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Missionary POse ftw
Mutahnt 1 year ago
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Mutahnt 1 year ago
BJJ = Unbeatable!
celsothedevil 1 year ago
Werdum claims he has a black belt in judo, which should mean he should have good stand up skills ... he pulled guard like 4 times? Ass dragging at its finest, I tell you that! Yes, he beat Fedor (major props for that) and the whole world is saying it was a fluke .. hell Werdum hinted on it as well ... that's why he wants a rematch to prove that if he beats him again that the first time was no fluke.
P.S. What the F. is Lindland doing in ADCC match? His a Greco guy with amateur submissions!
pcjudosambo 1 year ago
@pcjudosambo Alot of high level BJJ players have studied Wrestling and Judo. Alot of the Gracie Brothers were college wrestlers or have studied Judo. There focus is BJJ and quite frankly, you do what works best. Fabricio's strength is his guard, with those long ass legs of his. For example, my strength is mount or side control. My legs aren't very long and I have a hard time keeping someone in my guard. So I mastered sweeps and worked on my throws that work a high percentage in my weight class.
daridp 1 year ago
@daridp i've seen Werdum grapple dozens of times in grappling matches and MMA and I yet to see his "judo or wrestling" skills. When I watch Sambo guys like Fedor, Oleg Taktarov or Judo guys like Karo, Yoshida, Akiyama... I see their Judo or Sambo. Even when I watch Chael S. or Hendo or Matt Hughes, I see their wrestling .. for some reason I do not see Werdum's wrestling or Judo (takedowns, reversals) he always pulls guard
pcjudosambo 1 year ago
@pcjudosambo Because guard is his strong point, he started BJJ before he did Judo. A BJJ player who adds Judo/Sambo/Wrestling to his game isn't necesarrily going to use it offensively. However notice that with Lindlands strong wrestling skills he wasn't able to take Fabricio to the ground on his terms. FW was able to effectively stop takedowns and bring ML to the ground on his. That is where alot of BJJ guys use their takedown skills. I do Judo Gi/No-Gi if you are wondering my background.
daridp 1 year ago
@daridp The problem is NOT the pulling guard itself (Im sure it's his strong point). The problem is the RULES that allow pulling guard. BJJ based comps are the ONLY in the world that allow pulling guard. Sambo, Judo, Wrestling does not. Personally, I believe that if you remove pull guard from the rules, you would see fighters use their judo or wrestling takedown skills. P.S. Lindland would take him down in a wrestling match... he was just slow here for some reason that I dont know.
pcjudosambo 1 year ago
@pcjudosambo Your confusing several different martial arts. Yes if you pull guard in Judo you will Ippon yourself and lose. If you pull guard in wrestling you will get pinned and lose. There have been wrestlers/Judo players who have gone to the ADCC and have done very well. Maybe you should look at the fact that Fabricio Werdum has great takedown defense. In grappling there are literally a thousand ways to get to the finish line. FW's is different from yours, mine is different from yours.
daridp 1 year ago
@daridp I agree with you, good point. I know some wrestlers, sambo guys and judokas have competed and succeeded in ADCC, but honestly, I do not look at ADCC as the #1 test for a grappler because the rules favor BJJ type rules. Heck, co-creator of ADCC is a BJJ black belt. I'm still not convinced that Werdum has a good standup game. Grapplers like Fedor, Gekor, "Judo" Gene, Taktarov, Shinya Aoki, Dean Lister, Rickson Gracie .. ALL fought in different arts/styles and won. These are great grapplers
pcjudosambo 1 year ago
@pcjudosambo If you notice that in most MMA matches Fabricio ends up on his back. Sometimes having someone in your guard backfires. IE. When Rampage Jackson picked up Fabricio Werdum who had just synched up a triangle and slammed him so hard he knocked him out.
daridp 1 year ago
@daridp oh yeah, that's why many asked why Fedor never slammed Werdum as well.. oh well. I admit and know that Werdum has one of the sickest submission skills in the industry. Being a sub guy does not declare you a grappler as a whole. To tap out Fedor means A LOT. If Werdum goes to Judo comps and wins, if he goes to Sambo comps and wins, if he goes to Wrestling comps and wins WHILE winning in BJJ/ADCC and MMA ... I'll be his biggest fan because he would be a top grappler.
pcjudosambo 1 year ago
@daridp
What? Seriously, do some research.
Fabricio Werdum has never fought Rampage Jackson.
They are two different weights.
Rampage picked up and slammed Ricardo Arona.
tonysoprano0316 1 year ago
@tonysoprano0316 Was probaly mislabeled, I only ever saw the video on youtube. I also have a very hard time picking brazilians apart. Good catch though, thankyou.
daridp 1 year ago
@daridp Other people have already pointed out that you named the wrong fighter, but i'd also like to point out that anything in mma can backfire. Deciding to stand and trade can backfire....badly. If someone is as skilled as werdum has you in their guard, you're in trouble, the goal is to get out of that guard, and he's gonna be trying to keep you there. If you're good, you use the guard to control their posture so they can never throw any powerful punches.
hzuiel 1 year ago
@hzuiel ill take top position any day in MMA. you are going to be eating a facefull of punches if you pull guard on an equally skilled grappler in MMA who can also strike.
maxsteelee 1 year ago
@maxsteelee The point is that a skilled jiu jitsu practitioner can do more from his guard than he can standing usually, so why stand and bang where the punches are more powerful? If you're actually good and your opponent is just "meh" on the ground, if you pull guard, they should be under you in less than a minute. Then they are the one raining punches. There are numerous sweeps from full guard.
hzuiel 1 year ago
@hzuiel i understand, but if you are grappling someone on equal or near level than yourself, you are begging to be punched if you always pull guard. for instance, if this was matt lindland vs werdum in an MMA match, i think matt would win, cause he is capable of securing a more dominant position for strikes
maxsteelee 1 year ago
@maxsteelee I was never talking about people on the same skill level at grappling, however, I still think a good jiu jitsu practitioner has a better chance pulling guard and then doing something from guard, than they do by standing and banging with someone who is better at standup than them. You go for whatever your strength is. If you're good on the ground, get the fight to the ground.
hzuiel 1 year ago
@hzuiel agreed
maxsteelee 1 year ago
@hzuiel- i agree. and big nog needs to start applying this logic.
ajdaemon08 1 year ago
Werdum is really good .No wonder he beat Fedor
mmilos11 1 year ago
Damn, Werdum's grappling is a lot more relentless than I thought.
MoneysnHoneys 1 year ago
werdum would beat brock in a grappling match, this fight was over before it began! for you werdum haters, those of you who cal him "b" rate, you should further expand your knowledge of the ground game. werdum is one of the best ground fighters to ever enter mma!
D21UpstateNY 1 year ago
Great vid! But wrestling would only be effective against bjj if they were wrestling rules. And if they were wrestling rules, a bjj dude would get pinned way more often because they work from their back a lot. And if you allow striking, like in mma the wrestler is extremely successful utilizing ground and pound. I like Werdum a lot more than Lindland but this wasn't a fair match-up at all
M4Carbine434 1 year ago
@M4Carbine434 I agree. ADCC was created by Sheik Tahnoon Bin Zayed Al Nahyan with his BJJ instructor. That's why BJJ rules are very, very similar to ADCC rules (almost identical). Matt Lindland was out of his mind to compete there. I mean, Matt Hughes is a great wrestler and excellent submissions .. even he had a hard at ADCC... Lindland had little chance since his submissions are weak. Take Werdum in a Judo/Sambo match, Fedor wins. Take Werdum in a wrestling match, Lindland owns him.
pcjudosambo 1 year ago
You can't say " You cant compare wrestling and BJJ " because those 2 sports are meant to compete, just like in MMA they are put to the test. If you ask me, BJJ seems to counter wrestling very well, I have seen that in Pride,WEC and numerous times in UFC.
VIBoBoIV 1 year ago
@VIBoBoIV BJJ counters wrestling in BJJ/ADCC tournaments. In a wrestling comp, BJJ can't hold it's own. In Sambo, Judo .. BJJ has a hard time (only a few top level BJJ guys can compete fine in these two arts). In MMA (50/50) .. because there are many wrestlers who out compete many BJJ guys. If you include a great wrestler with massive submission power (eg Matt Hughes, Josh Barnett, and Sakuraba, hell even Brock & Carwin), you have an unstoppable force.
pcjudosambo 1 year ago
Fuckin' beautiful! ..Fab should've tried goin' to the ground wit' Dos Santos!
HarlemMic 1 year ago
This just looks like 2 men making love to some music.. Lol..
TurtleCow11 1 year ago
werdum's JJ is amasing. he's a true master at it.
belgradebobcat916 1 year ago
He Can Beat Brock!
SingJiya 1 year ago
shit gay grappling bout as entertainin as takin a turd
mrmattymatt1 1 year ago
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fabricio Werdum, should not fight him again, he will be known as the man who beat the very best in the world. He can go on now and open a school and be great the rest of his life. If he fight fedor again he will lose and his career will be over. Look at Matt Sarah. He should of just went away a winner. Another person that should of stoped was Gracie, He was at great status then he fought and ended up a loser for life.
SingJiya 1 year ago
Lindland survived longer in BJJ then Fedor, lol. Lindland prolly woulda beat Fedor also under different circumstances. This is by far my personal favourite grappling videos from the continuous varying attacks by Fabricio regardless of the opposition. If only all BJJ were this way.
ShitWrangler 1 year ago
one thing ive discovered about werdum dummie wants you to come lay on him like a bitch so he can try tangle you up in a submission
5551Batman 1 year ago
wow i wonder if got fedor how that would go....is this guy better then belfort or maybe minotauro ?
claudioagmfilho 1 year ago
@claudioagmfilho Minotauro beat Werdum in MMA competition. If they met at a grappling match, I'm not sure who'd win. And he's got better Jiu-Jitsu than Belfort. Belfort is a way better striker than Werdum though.
Viperguy896 1 year ago
@Viperguy896 Belforts style of BJJ translates better to mma & better in this case is only measured on power not technique.
The answer in a match too I strongly think it will be Werdum his style & long limbs better suit bjj
wondeboy12 1 year ago
@Viperguy896 werdum has way better credentials in grappling than nog who has never really won anything.When nog beat fabricio in mma ,werdum was a novice at that game.
billysue2 1 year ago
bjj is so superior to wrestling... a silver medalist handled as a little kid. Alliance BJJ!!!!!!!!!
TheCymorelli 1 year ago
@TheCymorelli ya, but what if they were wrestling instead of BJJ?
utahboy86 1 year ago
@utahboy86 Werdum is a 240lber matt usually walks around at 210 (212 for the Fedor fight) matt being a class act in wrestling skill wise will be at an advantage but size is suffering
wondeboy12 1 year ago
@TheCymorelli a fading silver medalist of yesteryear at 175lbs vs a recent heavyweight ADCC champ......yeah your right it proves everything that is the power of bjj beating mere shades of a former life in place of someone more viable. its been this was since the first ufc where they scouted for tallent they couldnt lose too!
wondeboy12 1 year ago
@TheCymorelli wrestling is only part of sub grappling,it needs bjj to complete it.You cant compare them since they are different sports with different rules.Id rather have a strong wrestling background before beginning bjj if I had the chance,someone like pablo popovitch would be my idol in grappling,good everywhere.
billysue2 1 year ago
talk about perfect timing by werdum
freeweed 1 year ago
that is such a sick move, he showed me that at a seminar very very effective from that position
TheAtomicFighter 2 years ago 2
Lindland submitted an accomplished BJJ player in Travis Lutter
snakerattle79 2 years ago
lindlands jiu jitsu is terrible
eugdog106 2 years ago 3
niiiiice
sequalofdecay 2 years ago
too easy
victhebjjpredator 2 years ago
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Tahaji 2 years ago
That´s dumb. A mediocre 84 kg ageing greco guy against an 110 kg Abu Dhabi bi-medallist. WTF?
Boredoutofmywits 3 years ago
Mediocre? Lindland won a Silver medal at the Sydney Olympics...
davidhrosales 2 years ago 35
I butchered the message. My bad. Lindland is a top greco wrestler, but mediocre in submisions. With ADDC rules he got not a quarter of a chance
Boredoutofmywits 2 years ago 2
Fabricio, very smooth I could watch this all day again and again. Poetry in motion, Brasilian Jiu Jitsu in action at it's best, a Lion stalking and subduing it's prey.
rajender23 3 years ago 25
@rajender23 couldnt have said it better, that was a beautiful armbar. like butter he transitioned into that there was nothing lindland could do about it.
blacklabel67k 2 years ago
@rajender23 better is sambo
jhonatanbar 1 year ago
Sorry my friend BJJ is better ask Fedor the Sambo master arfter being choked by Werdum via triangle choke
rajender23 1 year ago
@rajender23 bjj has a better guard,that is the only advantage.Fedor has already whupped big nog twice inside the guard,he got very careless with werdum though,just dove straight into the trap.I predict he'll win the rematch
billysue2 1 year ago
@rajender23 theres even the generic discovery channel lion hunting a gazzel music to go with it haha
Trey3Stix 1 year ago
@rajender23
Lion would never get to it's back because that means you give up aka you are a coward. Watch any Lion fight video and you will see that their fighting is just like classical wrestling, the object is to take you opponent down with your skills and your physique, not by hurting the opponent. The one that stays on it's back is the loser in the jungle.
hansul 1 year ago
@hansul hahahah, you must have been a high school wrestler.
hikikomi 4 months ago
@hikikomi
HOW DID YOU KNOW
hansul 4 months ago
wow, werdum pre- 40 lbs
earthinfused 3 years ago
That was a sweet transition from back control to an armbar, I do not think I have seen that one before. What is Lindland's deal competing against heavyweights, goodness the dude is a 185 pounder, let the big men face other big men.
samplay1 3 years ago 2
weight does matter,this is why there is weight class!
docteuralndnk2 3 years ago
not as much in jujitsu as in mma hence the reason why small guys often win absolute competitons
biglittlejujitsuman 2 years ago
Nice arm bar from the failed RNC. Too bad he got knocked out in UFC90, I was expecting a good match.
MPA2000 3 years ago
man, I knew werdum was going to win before I even clicked on this video, but wow, it wasn't even close.
what a performance!
GaeasBlessing 3 years ago 2
Some moves in Wrestling is kinda gay.
ChowZeb 3 years ago
Lindland really is an ugly dude- Anyway, easy one for Werdum!
gera3999 3 years ago
that was fun to watch. What an odd video to watch if your not familiar with BJJ! It really is like a chess match
dhucaluk1 3 years ago
Great display of jiu jitsu worth saving.
BBFMMA 3 years ago 2
isto é Brazilian jiu jitsu sensacional
jitsu250582 3 years ago
Quasimodo vs lurch
squidycash 3 years ago
i had so much pleasure watching this!
eurokz 3 years ago
beautiful submision!
TheChimeMan 3 years ago
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wtf is this? they dont punch just grapple and submissions?
EvilfuryOWNsYou 3 years ago
it's called submission grappling
look up abu dhabi combat club on wikipedia
BLAYSESSION 3 years ago
scorched you may be right about the weight but lindland is just way smaller . L O O K. i'd be curious cause my guess would be werdum just cut enough for the class while lindland was at his largest competitive weight.
werdum is a top 3 true MMA HW and is a sub/ground master but lindland is great too. even rampage seemed WAY more managable against lindland
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patrickgamil 3 years ago
weight doesnt matter look at marcelo garcia, he owns heavyweights at 170ish
rockcrave 3 years ago 2
Very nice music..
lenkapechosk 3 years ago
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LINDLAND TAPPING AGAIN
ArchStantonx 3 years ago
Dont fucking spoil the results, moron.
Sprawler3 3 years ago 4
Don't read the comments before watching the video...I didn't see any of the comments until afterwards.
jayr545 3 years ago 2
Great match. Anyone know what this music is? It's in a bunch of these ADCC videos.
Nisp 3 years ago
mad respect to matt for goin for the reverse triangle. not every one gets jacare in positions like that
RDbushi 3 years ago
nice
motorkola 3 years ago
werdum always cranks subs on so hard
jjcjjc 3 years ago
Great Sub... classic BJJ. Respect to Lindland, he's a tough cat
TriangleChoke96 4 years ago
Werdum's a fag!Make him fight Matt in a cage he'd be destroyed.
remstyle 4 years ago
yea don't go into guard with a guy like werdum unless your pretty damn good at bjj too!
oj205 4 years ago
westreler may get the top position, or even a better postion but it still being impossible to ebat jiu jitsu fighters in the ground, westreler isn't done to sub someone...
netozimm 4 years ago
DAMN!! Lindland Got Took to School!!!
LetsGetThisCake 4 years ago
yeah arlovski is better rounded, although i think werdum wanted to prove someting and stand with arlovski, i think it would be a different story if werdum tried more takedowns.
ronhudsonjr 4 years ago
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Brazilian-bitch position
PUSHKINcXYEM 4 years ago
Just the way your mom likes it asshole.
Gr82havegrey 4 years ago
u r a bitch ass fag;)
PUSHKINcXYEM 4 years ago
very cool, i'm sure matt didnt go in there just with intention on wrestling, but that is his foundation, like randy couture. gotta work on escaping subs :)
basedeal 4 years ago
Werdum is a sick grappler.
hillerm 4 years ago
In 2002 Werdum fought a couple of white belts that I know at a tournament and broke their arms.
He was wearing a blue belt and danced and sung in Portuguese after sending three guys to the hospital...
Interfenix 4 years ago
how did white belts in bjj get in the tournament? i thought it was invitation only.
DeadlyRays 4 years ago
Brazilian Jiu Jitsu is the best!!! Dá-lhe verdão!!!!!
schnaps33 4 years ago
monson is undefeated in adcc you nubs
DeadlyRays 4 years ago
wat....i am from dubai and he lost a couple of times in adcc....
jtej001 4 years ago
really? maybe im thinking of ricardo arona
DeadlyRays 4 years ago
Arlovski is an incredible mma fighter. Why discount him because werdum is better at bjj? Was their fight a bjj match? Don't hate on Andre because he was better at mma.
boxsterwelby 4 years ago
slick, very slick, bjj.
Prodigysportsman 4 years ago
monson would tool werdum
DeadlyRays 4 years ago
probably not
bizzle187 4 years ago
ugh no.
coolerow 4 years ago
lol no he wouldnt and you no he wouldnt too Monson is big steroid freak and is wrestling isnt even that great
jchavista89 4 years ago
haha no
cpilfold420 4 years ago
That was brillian grappling. Awesome armbar from back control
Magnum1978 4 years ago
I stand by the belief that there is no such thing as a Matt Lindland fan
maximkain1 4 years ago 2
well i cant say your wrong there. they guy doesnt wash coming up to fights so he can throw his oponents off with smell. he did that in the olympics im told. and all round he is just a whinger. like ken shamrock
lortinoheat 4 years ago
Werdum is an incredible grappler
wandysilva 4 years ago
awesome match
thearaban 4 years ago
Seriously though, mma vs ADCC bullshit aside, what is that awesome music??
Jeice540 4 years ago
Werdum's a bad ass and hes gonna put the bitch slap on Arloski at UFC 7O next week .
BuckMeHoff 4 years ago
Yeah Arlovski is WAY overrated but thats not said to take away from Werdum.
nickflit 4 years ago
Fedor won by armbar at 2:58 of the first round.
DreamEater390 4 years ago
o.k. mma fans the news is that ufc now owns pride.and now they are going to start paying their fighters millions for title fights.isn,t that fantastic? now we may see king fedor fight in the ufc.ifl,bodog,ufc,pride its just one big happy mma family.
kilrkane 4 years ago
yea i love pride but seeing all these people leave including all of btt big stars like big nog and so on probably means that prides going to tank. but i really want to see the arlovski/werdum fight and i want to see cro cop kick that gonzales guy head off too. should be the first good card in awhile for the ufc.
thegeneticfreak101 4 years ago
" and i want to see cro cop kick that gonzales guy head off too."
LOL @ the irony
slahblah 4 years ago
in my eyes Werdum vs. Arloski is gonna be more exciting than Chuck vs. Rampage and it will also be fight of the year thats my prediction
AVARawks182 5 years ago
I'm excited for Werdum/Arlovski, I'm getting UFC 70 based on that alone.
532soldier 4 years ago
matt lindland sucks and smells like shit.
ericscarface 5 years ago 2
Smells like shit?
madatgravity1984 5 years ago
and he´s facing Fedor in a couple of weeks, that must be an awful feeling for a limited figther like matt...
erikshogun 5 years ago
He has as good of a chance as anyone at beating Fedor. Close to zero, but I think he will hold his own and surprise a few people.
Fedor TKO rnd 2.
fathead8489 5 years ago
Lol, good one
vectra17 5 years ago
i believe once crocop is champion. something will happen that will shock the mma world. like pride getting bought by ufc or something. either way, i see crocop vs fedor 2 in the future. ufc heavyweight champ vs pride heavyweight champ would bring in the most sales. so maybe that will happen, but then again fedor could come to ufc.
as much as i love pride, i hate to say this, but everybody is going to end up in the ufc eventually
cpilfold420 5 years ago
I hear you man, I love PRIDE but pride is going down hardcore, crocop left, gomi lost to ex UFC fighter, Wandy lost and PRIDE is having trouble itself, it could be like the ex Japanese MMA organzation KINGS...everybody left and it disappear on the planet
dragonbut 4 years ago
Takanori didn't lose, it was actually a no contest. He was beaten Nick, and the NSAC overturned it during the match.
HelmZan 4 years ago
NSAC overturned the match because of marijuana use by Diaz. i still think gomi lost.
maxboost83 4 years ago
huh ?!?!?! i guess the NSAC told that to gomi right before he tapped huh?
toxictof 4 years ago
after wanderlei silva lost, pride lost alot of credibility. Because a 183 pounder who was 197 pounds when he fought vanderlei beat their top 3 LHW(UFC)/MIDDLEWEIGHT(PRIDE) champion.although i dont see fedor losing any time soon, until he faces crocop. nobody else can beat him
cpilfold420 5 years ago
Apparently Dan isn't a PRIDE fighter now? I'll pick Dan over 98% of all 205ers.
fathead8489 5 years ago
Interesting video, thanks.
MeatyPortion 5 years ago
I don't know how old this is but Lindland has improved a lot in his Jiujistu over the past 2 years. Obviously he still favors GnP and uses his suppirior conditioning, which he could not here. Furthermore, Lindland is one of the top 185 pounders in the world in MMA. However because he is an independant he fights a lot of Heavyweights and doesn't get exposure. The real test is how he does in his fight in April against FEDOR ELEMENOPEEKO.
givebeesachance 5 years ago
beautiful armbar
boogiemanson 5 years ago
Werdum's BJJ is superior and his size advantage also is a great advantage, but Lindland is the better MMA fighter.
JMDestro 5 years ago
YOu really make me laugh.. Fabricio Werdum is one of the best HW fighters in the world, in MMA...Lindland sucks!!!
BrankoKockica 5 years ago
you're retarded.. Lindland is one of the best mma fighters out there!! But you can't expect a 185 pounder to beat someone who weighs near 250 lbs!
slahblah 4 years ago
Unless its Marcelo Garcia..
mfgillia 3 years ago
Actually, this wasn't the ADCC absolute class. This was the HW bracket which ,means they both weighed in within the same bracket. And besides, in this fight Lindland was completely outclassed in terms of skill, at the same weight Werdum would've destroyed him just as badly.
scorched54 3 years ago
The match was pretty much over as soon as Werdum pulled guard.
gmr7494 5 years ago
kick ass
mani101 5 years ago
love the music! so mma and grappling r totally diffrent. by the way i love tha classic match Bjj vs wrestling no matter which style(bjj or wrestling) r the best but it depend on the person tha trains harder or longer all u gotta do it put ur mind in the game well i would like to see bjj vs wrestling or bjj vs judo even wrestling vs judo it will be awesome but im wrong wrestling dont were GI
beto6911 5 years ago
yea the music kicks ass, a wrestler only usually knows a neck crack and maybe smoother submission otherwise its generally powering out of sub attempts
ShitWrangler 5 years ago
Do wrestlers come to these sort of matches with wrestling style chokes and locks prepared?
oh, and there's nothing wrong with this music.
jugzgotcha 5 years ago
While this music disturbs me, Werdum's jiu-jits is absolutely sick. War Werdum. War Brazil.
IHeartOverTheTop 5 years ago