Nonviolent Comm. and Corporations-Marshall Rosenberg pt 2

[CertifiedOddBall]

Man searching for meaning is one of the best books ever created!

[HenryGeorgeSchool]

thx

[nVei06]

you want to see justice in this world, then you kill the liars. That's simple.

[nVei06]

marshal roseburg is training an army of people to spread satanism and socialism. he's not teaching people not to lie. he's hoodwinking people. his goal isn't to make people honest. His goal is to convince people that only dishonest people are perfect. Believe you create truth and you do not believe you lie.

[nVei06]

do not criticize Baal is what you say, Baal is CBS, The democratic party, coca cola, the evil ones.You criticize everyone else. you're stealing and lying and sucking away all that's good and don't like criticism. Your logic is to manufacture truth. The strength of you actions is your power, and the reality of them is your religion. How a thinking being could be so abysmal is sickening.

[nVei06]

you pick and choose from the bible, with one goal, to hypnotize. Logic is something you define. Your laws for logic, which are not natural laws. You have a very supernatural basis for you beliefs. You claim the bible as your proofs. you preform no miracles, you credit yourself for God's miracles.You use Jesus as a hypnotic tool changing what he had said to say what you have to say.dishonest egos looking for power. That is your definition of good.the dishonest ego, is the oppressor God.

[nVei06]

God said his ways are higher than mans ways. when he talked with job about evil and good. You say your ways are God's ways. You are just fools. you hide behind lies and vagueness but i know you. You are the evil.

[sherpajones]

Well, if you remember from genesis, mans ways, the ways we chose, are the knowledge of good and evil. God warned us not to eat of that or we would die. Gods ways are life. He is the author of life. Jesus came so that we may have life and life abundantly. So you if you love the fruit you will eat it.

[nVei06]

come out little devil.

[nVei06]

Oneness with God is nothing. Oneness with Christ is something. You can not understand the mystery of Enoch, God's friend. That is you, That is something.

[nVei06]

It is not true that you value nothing, but it true that you do not value honesty, nor wisdom, nor humility. it is those three things that is the sum of Love. That is the love you are removed from.

[nVei06]

you people are evil, if you are revealed you hide. you believe you are closer to God when you see beyond good and evil. You become God, when you do such. As much of a god as piece of dirt or a dead animal.The bible says Satan is the master of this world, and you people praise his work, but God's people know the difference. Your religion, believes in one ness. There is the now to be celebrated in one ness.

[sherpajones]

Jesus prayed for oneness with his desciples just as he was one with the father. That would make all one. I greatly appreciate Marshall's contribution to life. I am not afraid, I do not hide. If you have no fear, then ask me anything, either public or private, and I will answer you.

[nVei06]

you are not one with Jesus, you are one with nothing. what you ware is a liar.

[nVei06]

right now there are people raised in captivity, or abducted, 'they prefer the 2nd' and they're used for the toys of their amusement, by they master mystics. they holy people are not holy, they worship satan. These are you and your people.

[nVei06]

you are the satanist, who wish to remove freedoms and the sense of morality from the world. the coca colas of the world. They took my carrot juice which was fress and organic. now it's non-existent. They wanted to ban organic farms. or how they put it, they wanted to spread their love.

[nVei06]

what i said is quite clear, typos and all. I believe you are a saturated evil.

[nVei06]

we can see marhsalls methods did not help you in the slightest. It only indoctrinated you into deepely rooted prejudices. his goal is to remove freedom and morality and to dominate. sublte passive disingenous ignorance. his supperficial exergies on concerns and needs is ridiculous. Is a pompous empty expression. These jews are not jews, they're satanists.

[nVei06]

it's dissapointing that you're jewish. i thought you were german. You're so backwards, superficial, and without shame. I see how very religious you people are or pretend to be. Not Judaism, though you might call it that. It's pure satanism. You strive to be as apathetic as the stark cold sky and claim this glorifies the universe. great skilled liars

[rabbitholecentral]

"Us conservatives see 1 race"

so why are you disappointed that I am jewish (which I am not)...but even if I WAS jewish do you not think that such disappointment drains the world of the LOVE you yourself indicate is so valuable. I take it you do not love jews. why would anyone be proud of not loving (draining the world of it one person and race at a time)?

[nVei06]

i was talking about marshal, his comment on the 1000's of schools in israel. The reason why it's dissapointing isbecause, israel is small, and if such ignorance is so concentrated in such a small area, what does it say about the population? You're a confused person expressing your prejudice views, with deep ignorance. your hateful suppositions have no truth to them. you shoudl follow marshals method, perhaps you would speak more truthfully. You're not very capable of value judgements.

[rabbitholecentral]

what he said about the 1.000 schools meant teachers who just use empathy building in their classes....I had questioned that figure too. Right now we are doing NVC so if we were in Israel we might be included in that figure.

[nVei06]

his 'organization', is based in israel. His training wheels are not focused to address dishonest people. they're used to attack freedom. They're used to attack moral concepts. They're used to attack discernment. The bible says discerment is the highest gift of God. These evil people are everywhere. i've delt with them. Evil people in power promote this satanic religion. They are the evil.

[nVei06]

no, love is something you're defining as bases on the sumpositions of the ego. that's not love, that's called evil and if i'm drainig the world of that, then that's my love. you take it i do not love jew? again was mindless drone you are. If you had intelligence, you would have said quite the opposite. You are a evil liberal. That brings up my other point, if you criticizie a jew for being evil, they call it anti-semitism. and ALL liberals accept that illogic as senisible.

[rabbitholecentral]

OK are you criticizing with constructive intent...otherwise that is what I call being under an evil influence. It happens. Have you never been "evil" or maybe even having "evil" thoughts?

No big deal really

[nVei06]

criticizing with constructive intent is what you call being under and evil influence? That idea is what the bible calls evil. Your term of evil, is what is good. Satan owns you, and you are his. You belong inthe land of Nothing. because there is no discernment that you value. you do not know yourself and you are a liar. You can enjoy the beauty of your natural nothingness in the land of nothing. We honest wise people go to new Jerusalem, which is something.

[nVei06]

in essence you're saying you wish to apply a change where dishonest people are forced to have a valuable expression, BUT you're not interested in applying that to address dishonest people, instead, it's an excuse to hand over authority to a passive dishonest overseer. That's actually what liberals do on every level. THe basic error is the same. you're the false solution to the real problem in ever case. Liberals are racists. Us conservatives, see 1 race.

[nVei06]

Instead of playing language games, why not just tell the liberal to be honest? oh wait, you told them to be without truth and proud of it. You're the black hole. We can not fill the need of it. that's where all the LOVE goes. you have drained the world . Very proud of it.

[nVei06]

.let's divide the labour of the good workers with the greed of the lashvashily needy. wow. Oh wow, it's amazing, tell people the truth and it's helpfull. the video ends with the epiphany. WOW unheard of. Hey, if you tell your students what 'good' means, you don't have to outline it. If it meant nothing, guess what, 'we were dealing with you dishonest people whom do this.' who's that? oh, the liberals. that's who do that.

[nVei06]

his need is to destroy morality and freedom. i will give him food and shelter to shut up. a dog house should suffice, as it is, his people do much more depraved things to less deserving people.

[nVei06]

he got a bonie at about 10 minutes in.,

[nVei06]

13_50 translation: i want to impress you with my quasi-mysterious intellectual spiritualism.

[nVei06]

your needs are not justified.

[nVei06]

you need to be labeled.

[nVei06]

all he's sayig is, religion and capitalism is the source of all evil. He's lying to you. You're a bunch of weak minded people whom have no care or ability to form logic.

[nVei06]

holy shit, these people are not even forming congruent statements. 'why do people feel the need to criticize others to make themselves look good?' holy shit. you people take this guy serious? The school who certified this guy should be torn down. was it harvard>? that's where we start.

[nVei06]

you people are an insensible malignancy. Who's defining 'needs'. you talk with the smallest of mind and absence of value as if it makes sense. magically, it makes as much sense as you need. You are people without minds or souls.

[branded72]

My main question, after reading and listening to Dr. Rosenberg's "System" of communication, is how do we overcome the fact that most conflict, violence and even environmental issues, are rooted in overpopulation? How do we address population control issues without stepping on one's "Civil Rights"? Every time I look at a "Problem" or "Crisis", it always comes down to the fact that everyone has their "needs". And the more "everyones" we add to the equation, the more "needs" we add as well. SO?

[mrcon5]

I do not believe we are overpopulated...I do not believe that man is the problem, should be ashamed to be on the planet but rather is an asset...I reject shame

global warming is based on false science..overpopulation is an excuse to not consider the real economic solution we do have...have you read Henry George? Are you familiar with the shaky science" behind Malthus?

It is this bad science of Malthusianism that keeps the belief in too many people

[Sephroe]

Over population doesn't justify the action and lack of appropriate communications spanning thousands of years when human population was far less 500 million. Over population doesn't change the situation, it only reveals with more dramatic effects the cause and effects of our way of doing things. And with powerful instant media tools, that further dramatizes the scale for which events occure by sending the news all around the world instantly.

[rspawn]

So, in a sense, we can all be saints - or gods, for that matter.

Not only that, it's actually rather easy to become one and it's not all that special (no immortality, no super powers).

We think it's something special only because we lost our way. Imo it's the fact that we lost our way that's special.

[followhimorlose]

this presentation really met my need to be able to articulate what ive been feeling since I was a child to my parents who have through no fault of there own adopted this violent method of communicating, wow

[paulagloria]

stand by for my recent work and soon to be released work with Jane G. Goldberg, Ph.D....if you like Marshall Rosenberg you will love Jane...we are starting a free internet therapy group if you live in NYC and can make a weekly meeting please join us

[followhimorlose]

too bad, i dont even live in the u.s. if i lived in new york though i would definatly make it. i will surely check out jane .g . here on the net though thanks for the heads up and the post.

[claudelebel55]

I wonder about the ultimate veracity of our needs. Do we have a need to be loved which people so often confuse with being approved of ? Is not the greatest need or aspiration to be free of all psychological demands. How does this tie in with spirituality as presented by Eckhart Tolle for example ? There is a maturing process here and the needs of a mature individual are definitely not the same as the needs of one who is immature psychologically or spiritually.

[paulagloria]

"How does this tie in with spirituality as presented by Eckhart Tolle for example ? "

This is why I question Tolle when it comes to manifestation (when good communication is a must)

the short answer is that all needs are always the same...what changes are our strategies to meet them

[claudelebel55]

I hadn't listened to the whole interview when I put my question and noticed that you bring it up later on. This is a very conscious process and mastering it requires consciously dealing with all sources of reactivity within ourselves. Ultimately, I think it does lead to sainthood. The problem in my case was thinking that I could simply deny my own needs - a fast track to enlightenment - but you can only get away with lying to yourself for so long. The joke was on me.

[paulagloria]

in my favorites I have Hward Stern talking to the FCC commissioner.....I want to do a show critiquing him (I have done it to myself on a show I did with a CIA agent pretending to not be one anymore.....) I realized later I could have done better.

/watch?v=5-jKPSsKrZo

[compcort]

What about needs? we desire to have food, water, and love.. and to stay alive. These seem to be desires.

[paulagloria]

do we need to stay alive or desire it?

[tantrafun]

your impersonators are violent

[paulagloria]

what else is new?

[paulagloria]

actually impostor is the correct word...but they do have to study somewhat the material even to begin to pull it off...of course for those who are sincere it is a drag that they can't get the real connection

[nicolatwo]

Absolutely true. I am a man. I am a woman. Total separation. That causes domination and arrogance.

[Vantage72]

wise man