IJN Battleship Yamato vs russian battleship Sovetski Soyuz

[Samuli385]

there should be more ship games like this

[Konata2010]

It took two hours and 270 planes to sink that monstrosity.. Russian vessels wouldn;t last a minute against it. Hell..it was almost twice the size of the Iowa!

[deino117]

I'm curious - who gets that early hit on the Yamato? When it happens, neither ship has made contact with the other, and all their main turrets are in neutral position, but someone scores a hit. And after that you can hear more shells coming in, still before initial contact is made.

[forgottenbattles1]

i think BISMARCK IS WAY BETTER THAN BOTH OF THOSE BATTLESHIPS!

[michaelfergusonuk]

@forgottenbattles1 Not Quite,

The Sovietsky Soyuz Class was Better Armed & Armoured & Twice as many were Planned,

Nothing (ship to ship) Could have Sunk the Yamato (Apart from some British Disign's Conceved for the same Reasons as The Yamato (To Overpower & Distroy the U.S. Fleet.

[deino117]

I know this game is old but it still looks like fun. Is there anything newer that does the same thing?

[kornek21]

@deino117 battlestations pacific and battlestations midway

[deino117]

@kornek21 Thanks. I love the graphics of the Battlestations games, and they look like a lot of fun, but for me they seem to be a bit lacking in realism (which I understand - they did it this way to increase play value).

This game definitely lacks the graphics but it somehow has a more realistic 'simulator' feel to it, rather than being more of a shooter like the Battlestations games.

[mlb201]

this is a fucking BORING VIDEO wtf is this even about?

[lutherheggs]

The Jap ship has been rusting in the Pacific for over 60 years. Nothing says FUCK YOU like Iowa Class!

[f3hdemon]

Let me give you some fatherly giudence stridertenryu, Yamato Could indeed outrange the Iowa Class battleships & yes they could launch spotter planes, as long as they don't get shot down. Iowa's radar still gave a Huge fire-control advantage to the U.S. & Royal navy in WW2, The Yamato would have been unstopable if she had fire control Radar, but as you can see stridertenryu Yamato does pretty good in this engagment.

[reapermohawk]

@f3hdemon excuse me yamato is not unstopable yamto has been destroyed by submarines

[G777GUN]

@f3hdemon

Well thats BS since 10 cm radar were more reliable. Problems with 3cm is that it wasnt good in bad weather. And is only useful at long range. Radar took time to lock onto which nowadays is said to be 7 to 11 minutes because you also need to find which way the target is going. You do not know how big the target is because you can only see the tower with radar, could be a Kongo for all Iowa knows and it requires targets moving slow speeds and in areas with no large landscape.

[crpdst2003]

@f3hdemon zone of immunity for Iowa out ranged Yamatos,,,,, USN superheavy 16" has better penetration and more reliable exploders coupled with radar ranging and the huge speed advantage to keep inside her zone of immunity at will....she was lighter by din of modern stronger and lighter steel, USN only nation that also used Special Treatment Steel(STS) for its non armoured parts and that made them even stronger... earlier USN modern BB's also had same advantages.

[BigChief427]

Hey I've got a fight for you. Yamato vs. bismark. Oh and in case my first comment got messed up, would you please send me some stats on that russian ship in this vid? I never hear much about russian ships in WW2.

[lamnaa]

I have always wondered about what would have happened if a Yamato class and a Bismarck class went head to head.

[BigChief427]

Same here. Bismark actually has the biggest guns of any battleship. It was 20" if I remember correctly. The Bismark was also newer and was more cutting edge for the time.

[lamnaa]

Ay, but it was German and had so soul. The Yamato had Yamato-damashii.

Also commander and crew would be very important.

Are you sure the Bismarck had the biggest guns, the Japanese shells were 46 cm and the Bismarcks was 38.

[BigChief427]

No I'm not sure, I just remember someone saying so. Think it was a TV show. At any rate you are correct. Crew and commander are very important. I personally think the bismark would give the yamato all she wants and a little more. Just my opinion though.

[lamnaa]

I remember the song "Sink the Bismark" says that.

I think the Yamato would probably win, but it is anyone game really.

[ACuda86]

Actually the Bismarks guns were only 15" Yamato held the record at 18.1".

[5sider]

@ACuda86 Actually, the record belongs to the British HMS Furious with 20" guns!

[Sartori]

Incorrect. Bismarck was armed with eight 15" guns.

The Germans were designing a larger "H" class battleship (never received a name, never built) that would have been larger.

The Bismarck was in fact far smaller (50,000 tons) than the Yamato class ships (72,000 tons). The Yamato class holds the record both for largest battleship, and for largest naval rifles mounted (18.1" shell diameter).

In fact, it's rather doubtful if Bismarck could even match the Iowa, let alone Yamato.

[BlackBirdZGTR]

It would be struggling against the Nagato let alone the Yamato.

[98RamMagnum]

Actually the Proposed Sovietsky Soyuz Class was about the same as the american Iowa class, 3 16inch guns in triple turrets, she was only slightly smaller then the Yamato Class of ships, the Sovietsky's would have held their own against the Yamatos.

[BlackBirdZGTR]

I was reffering to the Bismarck not the Sovietsky.

[98RamMagnum]

Ah, i see.

[BigChief427]

That Russian ship is kind of an odd design for a battleship. Looks more like a cruiser. Could you give me some stats on the russian boat? Number and size of guns, top speed, armor thickness, etc..?

[monsterMike18]

too right

[gardenwarden]

An Iowa vs. Yamato would be a slugger vs.boxer. The Yamato would have a slightly longer maximum range with heavier shells and broadside. I believe the Iowas speed and blindfire over the horizon radar would make this battle go to luckiest ship.

[Sartori]

This a great analogy. Yamato's sheer firepower and enormous amount of armor protection would be hard to beat. Iowa being more advanced technologically, especially in fire control, and her speed would have made it an equal, or near equal match. So yes, you're right, a slugger vs. a boxer is a good way to put it.

[BlackBirdZGTR]

There wasnt anything "technologically advanced" about the Iowa besides her fire control. And speed doesnt help in a BB vs BB battle besides in the ability to run away.

[Sartori]

It does, actually. It gives you the ability to maneuver. And more importantly, speed gives you the ability to control the range and even when the fight takes place (a huge advantage, given Iowa's radar fire control, superior at night).

Fire control, of course, is very important, so I would say that yes, Iowa's superior FC is a big technological advantage over Yamato.

[BlackBirdZGTR]

The Yamato had superior maeuverability their tactical diameter was 640 while the Iowa's were 960. As well the Yamato's were designed to be able to withstand hits from their own 18.1 inch guns, while the Iowa's could only withstand a hit from 16"/45 caliber shell. Although the Yamato did have an inferior radar control it would take only a few hits until the Iowas abilities become degraded unlike the Yamato which would most likelly take many more hits.

[Sartori]

But all those turns could be made much faster by Iowa. Iowa could also decide when the battle took place due to superior speed, staying out of range until night, during which the American ship possessed an enormous advantage due to radar directed fire control vs. optical fire control. While the Yamato could take more hits, the difference in fire control, as well as the higher rate of fire for the 16" gun would ensure that it would be hit more. It might not sink, but still be neutralized.

[BlackBirdZGTR]

It should be reminded that the Yamato DID indeed have a radar so it was not completely depended on optics, though it was not on par with American electronics the Yamato was not blind in the night. Also both ships had a equal/near equal firing rates which were 2 shells a minute per barrel for both ships. The Iowa would be better off either running away completely or wait for one of her sister ships to arrive to help.

[dingfriesaredone666]

broadside weight is nice, but the Yamato could outrange the Montana

[tnix80]

The yamato could destroy anything afloat including whole battlegroups until the Iowa arrived, then it would be a fair fight.

[Arnold1944]

Nope, not even Iowas would be a match, in terms of broadside weight, Yamato dealt a heavier broadside. Only the Montana class outgunned the Yamatos with 12 16" guns

[slifer26]

wow this is a nice simulator. Where can i get it? HOPEFILLY IT'S NOT PROGRAMMED BY MICROSOFT!!

[HUNDLEYGUY95]

wasnt the sovetski soyuz actually the HMS Royal Sovereign which GB loaned to russia for the duration of the war

[PimpDaddy000007]

It was the Sovetski Soyuz as long as the Soviet Union had it, I imagine.

[iroscoe]

No the Royal Sovereign became the Soviet ship Arkhangelsk .

[HUNDLEYGUY95]

i found that out shortly after i posted that

[AnimalandNavy]

Wow the Yamato looks horrible in this game

[tailclock]

explain why the ship sink then

[007cbj]

the U.S.S.R. ship has good aim

[sardinia1999]

Anyone tell me what game this is?

[BismarckIsHuge]

Fighting Steel. Good Game, shitty graphics.

[breezeman199]

What a waste the Yamato was. The ship never even got to fire its guns in battle.

[BismarckIsHuge]

Pretty mucj the same thing with Tirpitz. Although Tirpitz did get to go out and do a few merchant raids.

[HUNDLEYGUY95]

no, just sortied than was recalled by hitler for fear of losing his alst BB

[GEURAEIM]

If you send your battleships out, you risk losing them but by leaving them in port, you force your enemy to deploy larger resources in guarding against them coming out i.e. the fleet in being concept

[HUNDLEYGUY95]

but, if you send out your BBs you also give a gr8 chance at elimanting the enemy ships

[GEURAEIM]

but if your ships are destroyed then you give your enemy control of the seas. Unwise very unwise why do you think the German high seas fleet never challenged the Royal navy again after the battle of Jutland

[iroscoe]

Thats true up to a point but you do get a diminishing return from such a policy the less your fleet sorties the less efficient it tends to be when eventually it does have to come out and play .

[GEURAEIM]

Yeah, I'm in agreement. However, providing your fleet can train, it shouldn't have a major impact on the outcome of a battle

[iroscoe]

Yes but its difficult to train effectively sat in port or doing coastal milk runs,the best training for fighting is fighting i think the Kriegsmarine surface fleet suffered in that way as the war progressed it became less and less effective .

[Aslaug75]

It most certainly did get to fire its guns in battle. At the battle of Leyte Gulf, and again during operation Ten-Go. However, it was used wastefully, and during the Sho-Go campaign in Leyte Gulf, it was captained by Admiral Kurita...who apparently forgot his brains, backbone and wits back home in Japan. I suggest watching going to the channel belonging to GDHouston here on YouTube and watching any videos about 'Tin Cans' and the Battle of Leyte Gulf...

[breezeman199]

Thanks, still the 'return on investment' was pretty poor for the Japanese.

[FilipMarkovski]

The russians are barelly shooting back...

[xxxXxxx255]

i dont like either team

[kuluku]

Jap is rubbish!

[GEURAEIM]

Japan was primarily a naval power and their training was second to none whilst Russia was primarily a land power so maybe the japanese ship would have been victorious. Then again maybe not

[kuluku]

Jap only got same victories by luck, they are not a traditional sea power as the United States, Britain, or the Neitherland. Jap is just like a idiot who got very rich in one night, and put all the money it got in a hopeless gamble. Jap is a purely lunatic nation.

[GEURAEIM]

The first Sino-Japanese war? The Russo-Japanese war? If I recall correctly, the Japanese navy in World War 2 was superior to every other navy in the world with the exception of the United States and that was primarily down to U.S industrial might and the use of radar. Also, if I remember correctly, the United States was a new world power just like Japan which means the U.S isn't a traditional sea power either. That honour goes to Spain, Portugal, France, Britain and the Netherlands

[kuluku]

But you never forget, both China and Russia in that time were 'sunset',both countries ruler made great mistakes in that time, the Qing dysnasty's ruler never gave its fleet a real support(The Qing fleet did not took enough ammunition in the naval fight), the Romanov Dynasty's ruler was busy with its inside conflicts(the Romanov fleet's supply of gunpoder were replaced by sand!), and both nation's many ship not under mordern-reequipping.Both nation's fleet were only 'skeleton'.

[GEURAEIM]

Where are you from dude? I can't understand your comments.

[kuluku]

Canada,but I am not a English-first language person.

[kuluku]

The reason why I called Jap are not traditional sea power is that the United States Navy were build in 1800 Quicy war with French, even thouth its not great, the U.S navy had fought for years when it became a great one in TR was in office. The U.S navy took actions in Latin America and many other fight with the Royal navy, so its a traditional sea power. The Jap was 'KO' by rear-admiral Perry, its mimic other real sea power to build fleet, so is an idiot became rich in one night!

[kuluku]

Talking about naval tradition, I'd ratherr put Chile and Peru before the Jap, the Jap was only can mimic, but the two South American nations as well as the United States has the idea to build powerful fleet as soon as they independent.

In Sino-Jap and Russo-Jap war, But even under such a circumstance of China and Russia were weak in that time, the Jap was still took sneak attack to won the them. The United States also a victim under such a dirty method.

[GEURAEIM]

Maybe a bit harsh. After all, Japan conquored vast territories. Without the United States, would Japan have been defeated. Personally, I think not. Also, Japan has been a serious naval power for nearly 200 years. They had to be otherwise, they would have become a colony like Indioesia

[kuluku]

The Jap should give thanks to vice-admiral Perry, the American fleet led by him stimulated the Jap to rose up to be a sea power. If Gen.Perry's fleet did not visit Japan in 1854,the Jap maybe are still in stone-age so far. lol

[kuluku]

What the U.S navy did in 1812 war and American-Spanish war were much better than the Jap did. Small U.S.fleet in its early days beat powerful RN and also the U.S. fleet defeated Spanish fleet in Cuba and the Philippines. The Jap has alway been a lunatic nation, it must be controlled by other great power, orelse it would again a huge disaster for the whole humanbeing.

[HUNDLEYGUY95]

well us ships were modern and spainish ships were outdated

[HUNDLEYGUY95]

1850s, 1 warship in the jap navy, only in the 1900s did japan even come close to being equal to the dutch navy, which was always 1/4th to 1/8th the size of the american an british navies, in every war the japanese have ever had they sneak attacked the enemy, in world war 2, japan had a total of 13 BBs at the start including the 2 yamatos, between the USa and GB we had 25 in the Us navy by 43, and 16 in the royal navy by 43, japan never ha da chance, 41 BBs between the 2 navies vs 13, no chance

[GEURAEIM]

Mushashi arrived in 1942 in the middle of the conflict

[HUNDLEYGUY95]

if the japs speede dup the commissioning it woulda been rdy in 41, it was outfitted and everything in 41, thats waht i actually meant

[HUNDLEYGUY95]

carriers, atr the end the us had 101 aircraft carriers, the UK had 17 at the end including a few that were sank, the japanese only had a total of 24 built by th end of the war, there is no way the japanese woulda won

[iroscoe]

The Axis powers gambled on a short sharp war that would scare their opponents into a quick submission,when that didnt work the writing was on the wall they simply didn't have the Industrial base to compete with the USA and the Soviets  .

[HUNDLEYGUY95]

even if the USA hadnt joined the allies still woulda won

[iroscoe]

Your probably right as soon as the Nazi's didnt finish the Soviets at the first rush it was only a matter of time for them,that said US men and material hastened the end considerably and saved a lot of lives as well as affecting the post war map of Europe,its a crude analogy for the contributions of the Allies but is I think broadly true that 'the British gave time,the Soviets gave blood the US supplied money' .

[HUNDLEYGUY95]

Soviets= gave blood

UK= bough time

the commenwealth= bought even more time

USA= finished what someone else started and saved lives

[GEURAEIM]

Well, I'd say the Soviet Union would have won in Europe which probably wouldn't have been much better than a German victory

[HUNDLEYGUY95]

but they still woulda collapsed anyhow

[GEURAEIM]

who would have collapsed?

[HUNDLEYGUY95]

the USSR still most likely woulda due to poor leadership

[GEURAEIM]

It wasn't the aircraft carrier's that were important but the aircraft and aircrews. In any case, the submarine offensive was what doomed the Japanese.

[kuluku]

Both Qing and Romannov's fleet did not have an idea of 'breaking through',and stated in harbors to wait being demolish, eapecially the former. The commanders stupid and mortal mistakes helped the Jap. The Jap navy were like its army, robbing here and there since it been build, they were tools of a group luntic robbers rather than military forces. The U.S and the Royal Navy had been in fight since they were build, so these nations are real sea powers.

[KuvDabGib]

Fighting Steel Right? Im looking for this game for more than 3 years..If you can PM me please where did you get it...

[fabianfred537]

the sounds are Ok...but the graphics are about twenty years behind... the flight sim 'il2 sturmovik' has far better detail and graphics

[f3hdemon]

This game is from 1999

[Detoyato]

where did you make this? its cool man!

[f3hdemon]

I didn't, its a naval warfare pc game called "Fighting steele", thanks for watching!