Honda Prelude 4 Wheel Steering

[eduardoguanatos]

I don't understand why they stoped make the prelude. For me prelude its better than civic

[gravey07]

What other model was it using 4ws, legend or something!?

Id like to drive one though!

[BrooklynLov3r]

omfg thats trippy

[PrimericanIdol]

Why don't we make all cars like this?

or Rear-wheel steering? i wonder how that would go on freeway speeds.

[Mattshewster]

@PrimericanIdol Badly.

[PeterusselNZ]

Makes parking easy ay

[IamPersonMan]

why doesnt every car have this.

[joenys78]

I had some shitty times with four wheel steering.

while going over 80 or so on the highway when theres grooves in the pavement..

you have no control basically so sketch your ass end is everywhere!

[bombardier420]

Never knew this was an option on any honda. Or is this aftermarket? When you get up to highway speeds, do they still turn opposite directions, or do they turn the same way??

[sexyboi142]

@bombardier420 it was not an option, it was a trim level. At higher speeds they turn in the same direction as the front wheels

[bombardier420]

@sexyboi142. Trim level is an option, your just talkin symantics now, hahahah. That's neat tho. I figured after acertain speed they would turn the same way

[sexyboi142]

@bombardier420 LX, Si, VTEC, 4WS Si. Those are trims, but i guess you could call them "options". Options are navigation, sunroof, leather, heated seats, rear spoiler, foglights, 18in rims, etc. etc.

Yea the prelude was sure built with handling in mind. The CB7 accord EDM, JDM, AUDM models also had 4WS as an actual option, not trim.

[MaddDogg81]

I had a 1988 Prelude 4WS

[Kjaydreamz5]

Fuckk that would make parallel parks so much easier !!

[mrmikey0526]

Nice I get my liscence in about 10 months and I'm buying a Honda prelude 91-97 after this summer ends and I'm storing in a neighbors garage and probably putting a few mods in it :D sooo stoked for it

[lasunbird86]

Jealous. That must be an autox beast.

[Intelpentium54321]

thats fucking insane!!! so awesome!

[hostagesoflife]

hey guys.. im thinking of getting a honda prelude (the 99 model vti-r)... just wondering if anyone could tell me if they think 4 wheel steer is beter or worse.. and if it feels awkward or abnormal whilst driving it... plz reply!!! :D

[cbulen]

HOnda actually started using 4ws back in the 1980's on the prelude. THis is not new folks!

[sinimo7]

what is the point in 4 wheel steering guys?

[MoralConflict]

@BNR32KING Douche Bag, its a Front wheel drive car. Remove all the fuses, and it will work for you!

[BNR32KING]

is there any way to stop the rear tyres turning?.. cause i find it hard to drift most times :P maybe remove a fuse ?

[sparkscarz]

do all preludes come with 4 wheel streer? or just the JDM ones

[mathewtsab]

IT IS ALIVE!!!!!

[morebass21]

everyone wants one now

[Zsword92]

Hey i've got an AUDM '96 prelude vti-r, the 4 wheel steering doesnt work, the rear wheels dont move. Is there a light in the dash that displays a faulty 4ws unit? if there is a light, its not on. Any ideas??

[EdAk333]

300zx was 4ws too?

[samuelleonard]

@EdAk333 yes but that's a more technical system called HICAS. HIgh Capacity Actively-controlled Steering. it turns the opposite direction to the front wheels and when traction is broken it does the same as the fronts. it reduces understeer and then helps control slight oversteer. this gives the front wheels lots of control. hicas only does a few degrees with the rears though.

[EdAk333]

@samuelleonard Wow, thank you, i didn't knew this.

[xXShadowRejectsXx]

looks like the front turns more than the rear :/

[leabuelo]

@xXShadowRejectsXx they do

[BaddaBigBoom]

When oh when are they going to invent a car that can do 90 degree 4WS so we can just pull up to a parking space and slide right in ! (?)

[samuelleonard]

@BaddaBigBoom citroen did something better. it had 4 trundle wheels that lifted the car slightly off the ground and moved sideways into a park. never took off though and i don't know much about it other than that. it actually could have been renault but i'm fairly sure it was citroen...

[miichael2g]

fail.

[TheBBombb]

i got a '91 prelude and it has 4ws. so good. all my friends are jelous that parkings a sinch.

[meatloaf666999]

Just imagine how sharp it could turn if it was RWD.

[center660]

that does not seem safe when you have to make a sharp turn.

[snupcho]

It's actually safer than with normal front wheel steering. When you make sharp turns in relatively high speed, rear wheels begin to slide and you lose control of the back of the car, 4ws prevents that and wheels remain in touch with the ground and so you can make safe and stable turns in higher speed than with a normal car. 3gen Prelude holds a world record in slaloming race btw :)

[7MOHD7]

@snupcho

hi i would love to see the proof bro

if u can i would highly appreciate it

thanks

[snupcho]

@7MOHD7 Dude, what do you want me to do? Film it? I got convinced, when I first drove a 4WS Prelude, maybe you should test-drive one too. Here's a wiki quote (if counts): "In 1987, Road & Track published a test summary that shows the 1988 Honda Prelude 2.0Si 4WS outperforming every car of that year on the Slalom, including all Lamborghinis, Ferraris, and Porsches. It went through the slalom at 65.5 mph (105.4 km/h). For reference, the 1988 Corvette took the same course at 64.9 mph (104.4 km/h)."

[yourface9847]

@snupcho but the average person can't handle it because it turns so fast.

[pianofolks1]

@snupcho

How can I tell if a 1989, 90 or 91 Prelude has all-wheel steering? Is there a control on the dash?

[snupcho]

@pianofolks1 It should have a 4WS badge on the steering wheel or on the trunk hood, but the best way to find out is to check if the rear wheels move when you rotate the steering wheel.

[tntiger84]

@center660

In high speeds they turn in the same direction for more stability. In low speeds, for sharper angle, smaller turning circle.

[zzsql]

cool. thanks for posting that. I never saw one of these 4WS vehicles in action.

Must be easy to parallel park.

[newyork2490]

what so special bout the 4ws? like i dont know nothin bout that.

[gmcneil66]

That would be neat if it had like a parallel park assist. They would have to be turned the other way.

[ddrhero]

woah, that's a huge angle. the HICAS system does 5º at best.

[atsidlm]

Silly wwd. It's cool but 4wheel steering is much more effective on rwd and awd, like the 300zx and isuzu impulse awd.

[aoe2gamma]

Does this have a different feel to regular 2 wheel steering ? and who did you buy it from .. i heard they are really rare..

[SwaN3082]

so this is a factory setup? no aftermarket parts have been installed on this original honda system?

[racinghonda]

Yes, this is a factory 4WS setup. Only change is that the car is slightly lower than stock (coilovers).

[sgtpepper1138]

@racinghonda aren't these kind of rare? i've never seen one in real life

[K1NGxKyye]

yes, honda preludes came in aws with no aftermarket set up, all original.

[maxamodos]

Crazy to hear they made them for so long in other markets. U.S. only got the 4ws (with a 2.3L non-vtec) for the very first year (1992) then they dropped it and introduced the 2.2 VTEC to the U.S. (alongside the 2.3 non-vtec Si)... Still trying to find one in good condition. As far as i know this is still the only 4ws car ever made with a fully mechanical steering system.

[dontbuyprelude]

@maxamodos thats not true. 94 was the last year for 4ws

[koolkona1]

yeah the 4 wheel steering is very useful here in japan tight corners and bad parking spots

i own a 4ws lude 93 JDM vtec it drives like a much more expensive the cornering in this car is incredible. most any other car in high speed tight corner feels like itll let go but this car no its glued

go 4ws rhd

[danny18999]

@koolkona1 they handle like their on rails

[koolkona1]

what smooth and going exactly where they're suppose to?

if thats how you mean id agree.

and what great race car do you own that corners so much better?

[armaan]

yes a very big difference, ive owned 3 preludes 2 sis and one VTEC. and i drove a 4ws si before and the turning on stock suspension is amazing. takes turns a lot smoother

[Eedgy]

Does it make a difference?

[tryleo]

ohhh myy gaaadd.... I tell u guyz uh, this is actually my first time seeing a normal car that has a sterring thingy on the rear wheel.. ohh man, that kinda creeps me out.. but it wuz quite wicked watchin it.. woow..

[troyly]

4wd ludes are very rare. the downside is that it increases the cars weight, not to mention extra maintance.

[Fastassb16]

is this on alll preludes?

[leegarcia81]

my 96 didnt have it but i did hear about the 93 having it as an option , but rare to see

[oatybuck]

I owned one for years, The only advantage on such short wheel base car was backing up down a long winding driveway. I had way more control missing bushes.

[x2xtreme360]

I have a question... I drive a 3000GT. Why does the rear wheel turn in the same direction on the 3000GT but on a Prelude the wheels turn the opposite. It seems like the Prelude's steering is more logical in the sense that when you turn, your rear wheels will follow the path of a circle... any ideas?

[racinghonda]

The rear wheels only turn opposite to the front at low speed to reduce the turning circle but they turn in the same direction at higher speeds. The amount of rear steer depends on road speed, steering angle and speed of steering input.

[samuelleonard]

@x2xtreme360 on skylines, theirs turns the opposite direction and when traction is broken it does the same as the fronts. it reduces understeer and then helps control slight oversteer. this gives the front wheels lots of control.

[Mitsubishi3kgt]

@x2xtreme360 Sell your 3000gt for asking such a dumb question, only people that know anything about cars should drive one.

[x2xtreme360]

@Mitsubishi3kgt If you want to compare the amount of knowledge I have on the car compared to yours, we can do that. You would get schooled my friend.

[Mitsubishi3kgt]

@x2xtreme360 Hahaha after that stupid question you asked it's clear you don't know anything, my family owns 3, 2 sl's and a vr4 and I've parted out a few stealths, my best friend has a vr4 and my next closest friend has a stealth tt, you wouldn't even have a chance lol

[x2xtreme360]

@Mitsubishi3kgt Not going to argue with a little moron like you honestly. I own a VR4, have a buddy with a 600HP 99 VR4 that I work on a lot, and DD a 94 base. Have a nice day YouTube faggot.

[itzzspencer]

imagine doing donuts in that

[marihuana90]

interesting will it make drift esear?

[nikosthegreat]

i dont think a prelude was made for drifting since its fwd. if anything the 4ws will make it less able to drift

[240SX951]

wtf tight!!!!!

[dirtsean24]

does it make a big difference while driving?

[stabe76600]

better in the turns taken

lol I did not know he was in his honda the guy has done well because it is brand new Renault ^ ^

[strathyman]

Is it all 4th gen preludes that come with

4WS? i wanna buy the vtec prelude, called VTI-R in australia, do they come with 4WS..?

[racinghonda]

Yep, all VTiR come with 4WS, the car in the vid is my VTiR (H22A engine)

[kevinef8bb4]

no not all 4th gens do

[BonkerzBabey]

whatttttttttttttt

[CAnU89]

hollly rectangular balls thats amazing shit right there

[StriderTacticaL]

hows the turn radius on that? like 0? lol

[adrianTNT]

Cool, I heard about it but never seen how it works.

[ViETNAMEzE2202]

WHAT THE FUCC?!

[dirtjumperjad]

i want one :|

[dancer1920]

Awesome! I WANT IT! lol

[GOBbluthagain]

pretty neat stuff...

[kittyhassomeclaws]

this isn't that big of a deal. i heard most of the newer cars these days have that to some extent.

[omgwtfbbqgtfo]

no they don't lol. i think there might be one other car, and gmc has the denali's with quadrasteer.

[crxdelsolsir]

Not all cars.

In addition if a does have rear steering they can vary greatly.

There is high speed, low speed, both high or low speed and electronic or mechanical set ups.

Its just like saying a power steering is a power steering. Not so since there is electric assist, hydraulic, full electric (drive by wire) and variable assist capability.

Not as simple as dismissing a car having some form of 4 wheel steer to all be the same.

[rajcat818]

that is ill!!! soooo Sweet! ive heard all about All Wheel Steering and read about it, but ive never actually seen it! i never thot itd visually turn so much, prolly steers like an FR! the only other cars ive heard of with it are the old Nissan 240sx's but from wat i read it sucks on that car and everyone just disconnects it. seems like a bad idea on rear drive anyhow.

[1995fordranger]

its also on the older skylines

[RCScubadiver]

me wantie!

[fearoftheduck]

I love 4WS!! i'm doing a technical report for my Automotive Engineering course. I just wish my Mini (proper one!!) had this - not that it needs it.

[AusSouLjaBoY]

its just not natural

[N9olan]

Yes you are right... It's super natural!!

[dumapies]

congrats u got ur self a forklift

[budsipper69]

when was this recorded the car seems to be in awesome shape

[racinghonda]

Recorded in 2007.

[whocares1c]

I want it

[Svn7h]

i have a 5th gen (97) prelu with 4ws and it rocks :P

kinda hard to park tho...turns too damn well ;(

[drummersamnesialol]

Well actually if you could make the axis turn the same on both then you may be able to make it 180 degrees wheels and do horizontal parking which would actually be ultra easy

[squeekyboy13]

thats a 96 isnt it

ive never seen that on newer ones

only the old 89

[racinghonda]

Yeah it is a 4th generation (92-96). Mine is a 95 model. Electronic 4 wheel steer was available as standard on Si and VTiR models (Australia). It was even available on the 97-01 model (5th generation) in Japan.

[riverviewpowerhouse]

is that stock??? if not how do i do it im getting a prelude

[koolkona1]

@riverviewpowerhouse well they have to be bought before but as others said this rare and hard to get

[jujujus2]

must wear all ur tires

[capitandiega]

The mitsubishi 3000 VR4 have 4WS too..

[KerryDoan]

All wheel drive buddy

[owen75]

waht type of preludes have 4ws? is it SI? or a specific 4ws model?

[evilmonkyforsale]

the si dude...

[EaStxVaNxiNc]

fuk change lane that bitch looks like a ride of ur life

[preluderacer88]

no unfortunatly not all preludes have 4ws. the benifit of the wheels turning the same way at speed is they assume you will not be making really sharp corners at speed instead miner corners kinda like changing lanes which makes them turning in the same direction more effecient.

[kusheking]

do all 4th gen preludes have that standard?

[ocelot6]

So what happens when you turn at 100 mph?

[toreyki]

drift

[ocelot6]

DORIFTO?

[toreyki]

................ Yes ???

[racinghonda]

The 4 wheel steering is controled by a computer that takes into account the road speed, steering angle, steering input speed. So when you turn at 100mph the rear wheels will turn only slightly in the same direction of the front.

[ocelot6]

Thanks.

[lyukmarke]

the 4 wheel steering is blocked when you are over 40 mph or km/h,i don't remember

[aManamous1122]

That's bulljive. At 40 they all point to same direction to reduce body roll. Cruise through some traffic at 120mph and you'll notice a huge difference.

[TheRattleSnake3145]

Whats the benefit of them turning the same way

at speed but opposite not when its slow?

[thetechnician22]

does the four wheel steering have a lock out on it for when you don't want it enabled? btw very cool! does it come standard or as option? man I bet it turns like a loader.

[LUDA89SIR]

I love it!

[pathyhrmmz]

good old 4th gen lude ftw

[benjerman112]

thats fuckin nutts!!

[racinghonda]

Sure does, but on JDM models

[rednop44]

Must admit, that was cool.

[fokiohero]

...got the turning circle of a London taxi!

[GharamDharam]

So thats what it looks like! I dont have 4WS on mine,does it really make a difference?

[sean1121]

Yes it does!

[datzDope]

more precise turns =]

[turbohondavtec]

I Had the local honda Shop Check it out and my computer would work every now and then. so that is why it didn't work. The 4ws light was also burnt out. It works Great now!!

[turbohondavtec]

do you have a 5speed? because I have a auto and I've have tried every thing to get the 4ws to work while standing still. I can feel it while driving. I just want to know if my 4ws is broken or if its just a auto thing. Thanks

[racinghonda]

Yep mine is a manual. Your 4WS should work whilst stationary

[BIG6DODGE9]

sweet