When low, always keep the wing flying. You cannot slow down when low, unless your Dell and u know what ur doing. Otherwise, keep that wing flying. When it stalls or spins at low altitude, it's already too late.
Pilot stalled left tip, continued to stall the left tip (no recovery as stated) then finally let up on the left control, and buried the right control! Back to the training hill! You can see the wing wanted to fly/recover as it is designed to do, unless you don't let it.
After numerous discussions with him: he didn't want to fly that day but let himself convince by a more experienced pilot: error 1 he flew too low over people, hence tried in turbulent conditions to turn too narrow: too much brake input : error 2 Miniplane Top 80 but with high attachments so chance of applying too much brake : error 3
4) no recovery action: after spinning the wing he did not let it fly : error 4
Ray, the only thing I would correct is your comment, after spinning the wing he did not let it fly. He needed to let it fly prior to spinning. Once it's in a spin and your at low altitude, it's already too late to recover. When flying low, you always, always, always need to have the wing fly.
Dell your paramotors might be well built and I don’t doubt your piloting skills. If you keep trying to brainwash people in to believing. “A Flat Top & K2 would have indeed prevented this incident”. You are giving people a false sense of security. A Flat Top is no better than any other paramotor in preventing accidents. The only thing that is going to prevent accidents or even death is proper TRAINING!
If you buy a flattop thinking it will not crash, you will probably wind up a cripple. Last year a pilot in a flattop and k2 did the exact same thing and had months of rehab because he listened to the idiot 0308 guy. The guy in idaho crashed and the idiot 0308 guy laughed all the way to the bank. The only reason flattops that do not crash is because pilots have problems launching them.
@fdzwes Yes correct. A Flat Top & K2 would have indeed prevented this incident. What happened is the totally uncertified height hang points put his brakes waaay too high so the unskilled pilot accidently pulled too much brake stalling the glider. This is why it is so extremely important to get a properly designed paramotor along with a good certified glider. Watch videos of the K2 such as the one where they stuff the brakes without it stalling and you will see these incidents are preventable
The engine was running during the crash. It appeared to be a stalled flight. Speed was very low. Another pilot did probably not land because of the conditions.
When low, always keep the wing flying. You cannot slow down when low, unless your Dell and u know what ur doing. Otherwise, keep that wing flying. When it stalls or spins at low altitude, it's already too late.
paraglidingnut 3 months ago
lucky he was not flying a flattop, they are so heavy that that it would have probably broken his back.
gilessmokey 3 months ago
Pilot stalled left tip, continued to stall the left tip (no recovery as stated) then finally let up on the left control, and buried the right control! Back to the training hill! You can see the wing wanted to fly/recover as it is designed to do, unless you don't let it.
fairbanksair 6 months ago
I know the guy, he had a broken rib that's all,!
After numerous discussions with him: he didn't want to fly that day but let himself convince by a more experienced pilot: error 1 he flew too low over people, hence tried in turbulent conditions to turn too narrow: too much brake input : error 2 Miniplane Top 80 but with high attachments so chance of applying too much brake : error 3
4) no recovery action: after spinning the wing he did not let it fly : error 4
MORE TRAINING MORE TRAININB!
raybeck 9 months ago
@raybeck
Ray, the only thing I would correct is your comment, after spinning the wing he did not let it fly. He needed to let it fly prior to spinning. Once it's in a spin and your at low altitude, it's already too late to recover. When flying low, you always, always, always need to have the wing fly.
paraglidingnut 3 months ago
Dell your paramotors might be well built and I don’t doubt your piloting skills. If you keep trying to brainwash people in to believing. “A Flat Top & K2 would have indeed prevented this incident”. You are giving people a false sense of security. A Flat Top is no better than any other paramotor in preventing accidents. The only thing that is going to prevent accidents or even death is proper TRAINING!
please I hope this person is OK !
indigoblue365 10 months ago 7
If you buy a flattop thinking it will not crash, you will probably wind up a cripple. Last year a pilot in a flattop and k2 did the exact same thing and had months of rehab because he listened to the idiot 0308 guy. The guy in idaho crashed and the idiot 0308 guy laughed all the way to the bank. The only reason flattops that do not crash is because pilots have problems launching them.
theppgcowboy 10 months ago 6
how's the pilot, i hope he's ok
rzys7789 10 months ago
Should have bought a flat top. They CANNOT crash.
fdzwes 1 year ago
@fdzwes Yes correct. A Flat Top & K2 would have indeed prevented this incident. What happened is the totally uncertified height hang points put his brakes waaay too high so the unskilled pilot accidently pulled too much brake stalling the glider. This is why it is so extremely important to get a properly designed paramotor along with a good certified glider. Watch videos of the K2 such as the one where they stuff the brakes without it stalling and you will see these incidents are preventable
imasuper0308 1 year ago
@imasuper0308 The equipment that a pilot is flying will not prevent pilot error, good training will.
1980airhead 10 months ago 4
Ouch! Too much brake by far! Spun the wing, no recovery action. Wing too big!
smad333 1 year ago
Somedy knows what happened exactly. what were the wind conditions or material failure
explorateurdesairs 1 year ago
@explorateurdesairs
The engine was running during the crash. It appeared to be a stalled flight. Speed was very low. Another pilot did probably not land because of the conditions.
jolesaja2000 1 year ago
@explorateurdesairs It's called crappy glider syndrome. Pilot asked for a turn, he got a stall/spin.
shaneman250 8 months ago