"Dead-to-the-spirit deluded "God Delusion" author & blithering fool scientist goon Richard Dawkins another "leader" given to the profane masses is another useful idiot for Jesuit machinations"-C.O.
Jesuitical: pertaining to the Jesuits or their principals; designing; cunning; deceitful; prevaricating
The Jesuits completely altered the education system to suit their Evo-Hoax agenda to discredit the Bible. They cant have a Satanic society of 'Do as Thou Wilt' if people still follow the Bible.
Wow, watching these four luminaries at work is like observing an ancient Greek symposium...without the pederasty, of course, though I have a feeling that Christopher Hitchens would be up to it if the others were. After all, his years at Oxford were not exclusively restricted to flings with women.
I don't understand why some Atheists are so opposed to Christmas. It's not about Jesus...it's a non-religious celebration. I get very excited around Christmas time because I know my whole family will get together, we'll all share some laughs and stories, and it'll just be a great day to be alive and to have the gift of knowledge & consciousness that gives us the ability to feel such wonderful emotions as joy and fulfillment. This is the only life we get so make the best of it. I love Christmas.
I just love how Dakwins, Dennet, and Hitchens are all about twenty perhaps even thrity years older than Sam, but yet, they have a high level of respect for him as he holds his own. I enjoy these men's rational minds, and dedication to quite an ironic subject of superstition.
If Dawkins really cared about the truth of the matter of whether god really exists, he wouldn't have made carelessly fallacious arguments against him and called them a 'statistical demonstration' against a 'scientific hypothesis' in The God Delusion.
@drunkagnostic Man . . . go away. I've seen your sorry ass all over these boards saying the same old shit. You're not being serious, you're trying to start an argument simply for the sake of having an argument. None of the crap you've posted makes any goddamn sense. How is positing a statistical improbability a fallacious argument? How does that go against a scientific hypothesis? WHAT IN THE BLUE FUCK ARE YOU EVEN TALKING ABOUT???
@billbenblue Obviously I'm talking about The God Delusion, where Dawkins failed to show even informally what he claimed to show 'statistically' and 'scientifically' : that god's as unlikely as garden-fairies.
I mean that quite seriously and it makes plenty of goddamn sense.
5:02 Even though this is a fairly serious discussion I thought I would point out the humorous little mumblings of Hitchens and Dawkins. It sounds like Dawkins didn't quite understand what Hitchens said.
I think the wedge for parting people from their religious beliefs is in this part: you can love your religious traditions and stories and take what you want from them without believing the parts that make no sense and for which there is no evidence.
This may be the key to the atheist movement. Maybe we should start a movement called "Atheists for Jesus" that advocates the MYTHS of Christianity with the same of enthusiasm we could have with Gilgamesh, or Hamlet, or The Iliad and Odyssey, etc. That might get to the heart of the cognitive dissonance of Christians. They would be hard pressed to criticise an enthusiastic compliment to the mythos of Christ, but by not embracing that compliment they also embrace the fact that it is only symbolic.
I totally didn't think how when they see christmas coming the ready their battlestations, it exites me that I can be apart of this. even though my dad is a preacher this might come in conflict with his employment
Religions aren't like pharmaceutical companies; they are like oil companies! Islam is BP, Christianity is Exxon, and Judaism, Hinduism, and Buddhism are ConocoPhillips, Chevron, and Shell. The first is causing a mess now, the second has caused a big mess in the past, and all the others are a mild burden to be tolerated!
This reminds me of my dad and three of my uncles around the dinner table at christmas (all highly intelligent individuals), all debating and pontificating on religion, literature, art etc. My dad would be Hitchens.....pontificating on things whilst steadily getting more and more hammered lol! Sam actually reminds me of one of my uncles too xxx
@kaiyeem Neanderthal have an appearance of great age. That is why they have the bigger eyebrows but they may have appeared younger even with great age.
@Seekmosttoprophesy My brother told me there was a lead paint baby on here and its you.There was no flood Jackass.Civilization never stopped.You really need to read a book.Put that Bible down retard and stop drinking lead paint slurpees.
@LutaLivre113 I can't fault your humor but I can fault your lack of reason. There was a flood. They found the Ark. The fossils are the evidence of the flood. They still have not uncovered all of the species that were buried by the flood. The Bible is far more reasonable than any text book you have read. The text books are constantly changing but the Bible is the record of what actually happened. It lists the actual genealogies of the real people that we are all related to.
"They found the Ark" Nope; That's a natural formation, & wrong size & shape. "fossils are evidence of the flood" Paleontologists say not. "..still have not uncovered all of the species..." then YOU don't know. The Bible is far more reasonable than any text book" Nope; contradictions & falsehoods. "..the Bible is the record of what actually happened" Some of it has been completely disproven! "...actual genealogies of the real people.." You don't know they were real.
@queenastilon That is the Ark because you didn't even see it yet. They found seven parts of it most of the parts being entire rooms of various sizes and it is in the location where it is supposed to be. You are kidding yourself. There are far too many fossils around the world covered by far too much sediment from the flood for your version of events to be true.
@Seekmosttoprophesy lol are you actually proposing that noah actually gathered up every fucking species on earth in here and put them on a boat in here? you must be out of your skull
@hempartist420 There has been a lot of variation of species since the time of Noah. You can't suggest that each species today would have had to fit on the Ark. The number of species was much less than it is today. There was a pair of dog, a pair of cat, a pair of camel or something like that and there was seven of every clean animal, sheep, cows etc.
@hempartist420 What you think does not prove anything. You think there was no boat. That proves nothing. The Ark is up there two miles high stuck in a glacier. All life on earth was buried by the sediments brought up by the flood except for what was on the Ark and whatever survived in the flood waters.
@Seekmosttoprophesy actually, what you think DOES prove something, the things you say are evidence that you are a complete idiot. Look, if you if you ACTUALLY think that noah, gathered up all the effing animals on earth (as diverse as it is today, unless you believe in evolution), and then a world wide flood occurred covering the circumference of the earth. you sir would be a gullible fool and it would be hard to credit anything you say to truth
@hempartist420 The only time I say people are not addressing the issues is when they forget about the issues and start attacking me instead of speaking to the issues. We already know that everything that was not on the Ark became fossils or frozen in the polar regions.
@hempartist420 One bang did not make the machine parts that work inside of you. The universe did not evolve billions of times to get the machine parts inside of you to work. The machine parts also did not order or direct themselves. They did not order billions of digits of observable directives. You cannot give credit to objects for things they cannot do. That is object worship giving atributes to things that they do not have. It is not science. It is not true. Give it up.
@Seekmosttoprophesy you actually believe in the childish noah story, therefore your version of science must be a bit twisted anyway. what DO you give credit for this half-assed creation? attributing this to a supernatural being is more ludicrous than giving credit to evolution which is observed all the time. you say "object worship", as if it is any better to worship something that cannot be seen or touched, THAT is not science
@Seekmosttoprophesy you're not very bright and your ignorance of basic physics and biology is abundantly clear in your response. In an ideal world, you would be embarrassed and hurry to a college to correct yourself.
@Seekmosttoprophesy Are you Marginally Retarded?This planet has never been destroyed by a fictitious flood.Your flood alledgedly happened about 2000 B.C. Yet not one civilization reports being destroyed.Where is the evidence of your flood?
@muitobonito113 The civilizations did not report the flood because they were destroyed by the flood. Talk about being retarded, The geology of the earth show great signs of extreme upheaval with millions of buried fossils around the world, the majority of which haven't even been found yet because of the tons of sediments that cover them.
Seriously that is the best you have for your beliefs ABRAHAM lmao whom which nobody has ever proved even existed. Do you really think that man lived for 600- 900 years before dying, when somehow we only live to be 65 on average in this country. Back then people did not live a long time on average past the age of forty.
@kaiyeem You don't even seem to realize that all of Creation was utterly destroyed. There is no possible way for us to live hundreds of years without the healing that only God can bring. It was God who intentionally shortened our lives in the first place. Do you not know anything??? Human fossils found show signs of great age.
@Seekmosttoprophesy Oh to the M G, please let us all know where these skeletal remains are being held of people who lived to be of great age as you are claiming and by great age you are suggesting in terms of several hundred years correct?
@kaiyeem The Neanderthal skeletons that show large eyebrows and such are the signs of great age in humans. That is the only way that we can tell the age of adult humans.
@Seekmosttoprophesy Lol Neanderthal did not live to reach great ages, plus they are a part of evolution, the bible does not mention them. So what are you talking about stop it, I refuse to believe you are really that silly. How are you ? I am starting to think you are a naive teenager or something.
@kaiyeem Free will is a human definition. Don't you know that God is able to make all grace abound toward you so that you always will have all grace in every situation? All you have to do is to be humble enough to ask Him for that grace but you first need to believe that He is and that He is a rewarder of those who *diligently* seek Him.
@Seekmosttoprophesy Oh really, have you ever thought to yourself why would a pastor who knows more about the bible than me would become an ATHEIST? Is your bible an accurate representation of your god? Do you speak in tongues too?
@kaiyeem The Bible says that speaking in tongues is the least important thing. The Bible is the only record of God from the beginning of Creation. It is not God's fault that people don't hear what He says and it is not His fault they do not heed what they do know of what God says. There is a lot to know about God and a lot to remember. What makes you so sure that that "pastor" knows anything at all about God?
Harris and Hitchens seem to be tackling the question constantly from a 'practical' point of view, how the belief in god(s) affects the world currently and has done previously. Dawkins, forever the academic, often discards that concern and is focused on truth: is a belief in god justified or not etc. Good to see them all together, they cover each others weaknesses and collectively present a broader coverage of the questions from many starting points of view.
@seemmosttoprophecy why are you even posting comments on this video, you're certainly not going to change any of our 'atheists' minds ESPECIALLY going down the 'bible is fact' route. Its best you keep your delusional opinions to yourself or feel free to discuss it with your feeble minded peers at church on sunday.
@Superslemmet Hipocrites are not allowed to teach anything because they disqualify themselves. You can only teach what you know yourself to be true. When/if the child sees that you are telling them the truth, they will do the same. You have to know the Bible before you can teach it. Beating a child because you want to shows that you don't even know what the Bible is talking about.
@Superslemmet Scientists already agree that objects do not act with intent or purpose. You are just wrong because your conclusion is wrong no matter how you arrive at it, objects do not order any directives with intent or purpose. The Bible happens to be true. That is for you to recognize. If you are an honest responsible person, you will confess that what the Bible says is true.
@Seekmosttoprophesy Lets play a little game. Say you grew up having never heard about god or the bible, and then one day later in life, you found a copy of it in your library.
If you are even remotely intelligent, you would conclude that this book is not fact, but old stories and myths.
To be honest, I can't even seriously relate to any grown-up who honestly believes in Santa or fairies. Invisible sky wizard is what the bible teaches us is true.
@Superslemmet If I had never heard of the Bible, it should be investigated to see what it says. It speaks of the Philistines, Arab tribes, Egyptians, actual names and places of actual people, Jericho and countless places have been found. Even the same mountain passages have been found time after time. What is not to believe about what it says? We should expect to see millions of buried life forms under tons of sediments.
@Seekmosttoprophesy Well, the Odysseus does the same, but we don't believe in Minotaurs or giants for that. Please explain to me why the bible should be an exception?
@Superslemmet The Bible is an exception because it is exceptional and it told us of Christ before there were any other beliefs when even the bad people talked to God. There was no question about who God was. Everyone knew He was the Creator.
@Seekmosttoprophesy I don't come from a Christian background. Where I'm from no one "knew he was the creator". I think you need to grasp that the bible is no more exceptional than for example the koran. It's special to you, but that does not make is special to the world
Have you read Plato? A quite brilliant philosopher, with a highly advanced moral reasoning. He had never even heard about the bible, because he lived 2400 years ago. How could he be moral when he had never heard the word of god?
@Superslemmet You assume that there was no word of God 2400 years ago. The very first word of Christ was 6,000 years ago. The koran is no more than 1400 years old and it only repeats some of what the Bible says. In the first few generations after Adam, there was no doubt about God being the Creator. Even the bad people talked to God and knew He was the Creator. Cain killed Able and asked God to protect him and God did set up the first city of refuge for Cain.
@Seekmosttoprophesy There were no "word form God" in ancient Greece! You are driving me nuts, you have no grasp of history, physics, geology, biology or philosophy. You make claims whose only source is the Bible, and which have been proven wrong time and time again.
The Bible is flat out wrong. It's made up by humans, for humans, and the evidence against it is so staggering you need to be brainwashed to not see it.
Open your eyes to the world, it's a lot more amazing than you think.
@Superslemmet The Bible contains records from long before there ever was a Greece, Egypt or China. In fact, other than the Bible, there is no actual human history that is any older than 4,400 years. Only the Bible has actual genealogies going from Abraham back ten generations to Noah and 1,600 additional years to Adam and Eve.
@Seekmosttoprophesy Are you aware of the fact that Israeli archaeologists have been trying to prove the historical accounts from the old testament for the last 50 years? The are hardcore Jewish believers, backed up by even more fundamentalists political parties.
You know what they have proven so far?
That there was no migration from Egypt, no flood in the area at around the time the bible says it was, and that even the existence of the Amalekites is highly doubtful.
@Superslemmet Yes, there is evidence of the migration from Egypt and the route that they took through to Arabia. Solomon erected a column on both sides to commemorate the crossing.
@Seekmosttoprophesy To put is simple. No. There is evidence that Jews have lived in Egypt for a long time, and nothing points to them leaving Egypt en mass.
If they all left, their settlements would have gone away from Egypt, but they did not. Also, the old Egyptians had a quite extensive tax-collecting system, and border-control, and their records show nothing of a lot of Jews leaving their land.
@Superslemmet You have to go by the information that we have. Egypt did turn from many gods to one god for a short time which is an extraordinary thing to have happened. The route through the mountains to the red see is there to this day and one pillar on each side of the Red Sea Crossing was erected by King Solomon where they crossed. There are also Egyptian cows and alters in Arabia where they crossed over on the other side. That is the information that we do have.
@Seekmosttoprophesy And it doesn't really answer my question that the bible has stories that say they are really old.
How come our modern society, and our modern morals that have produced more health and happiness than any other recorded society, when our society and morals are based on the thinking of the ancient Greece, and not the bible?
And the fact that those ancient thinkers had never even heard about the bible or Jews (because, at that time Judaism was strictly for Jews) .
@Superslemmet Our society and morals are based more on the Judeo Christian ethic than anything else, especially in the United States. You are naive to think that people were not influenced by the Jews but it has nothing to do with what people think. It has to do with what the fact are.
@Seekmosttoprophesy Maybe in the US, but even your constitution is secular. The basis for all successful western societies is absolutely not the bible. Some turn to the bible for a basis of morality, but most thankfully do not. I mean, in most of western Europe child abuse is illegal, even though the bible explicitly encourage it.
"He who spareth the rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him correcteth him betimes" (Proverbs 13:24)
@Seekmosttoprophesy You must be kidding me? The quote is written as clear as it can get. Those who do not physically abuse their children do not follow the bible.
God has commanded that you must hit your kids, and if they insult you, you must kill them.
It such a nice and loving book, and produces such happy families...
@Superslemmet What you fail to understand is that God cannot speak or allow anything less than perfection from us. He cannot say anything less than perfect or require anything less than perfect. That is what His grace, mercy and provision for sin that only He can provide for us is all about. You are being extremely abusive yourself and you don't even realize it because you never learned any manners. It is all about caring about the truth which you don't seem to care about.
@Seekmosttoprophesy But that proverb has been proven to be false! Children subject to physical and mental abuse always grow up with emotional scars that hurt them and makes their lives less happy. They also have a much higher chance of propagating the same behaviour to their own children, leading to more misery. This has been proven time and time again, and that's why most civilised nations have banned its practice.
Following the bible leads a people to misery and suffering.
You can't talk about what there is no evidence of. You can only talk about what we have evidence of. Since there is no evidence of evolution, it belongs in the realm of speculation, conjecture, imagination and fantasy.
There is observable evidence of Creation and there is also the historical record of the flood and of Creation complete with the genealogies of your ancestors from the flood back to the Creation.
I'd like to propose to SeekMosttoprophesy that cities and such mentioned in the Bible are not evidence of God, but evidence that those places and things existed when the text was written. You can't prove one ounce of creationism or the miracles in the bible. If you can I'd like to hear it.
@omgimontheinternet Yes, the cities in the Bible did exist and the biblical flood did happen and that is the reason for all of the fossils that we see. There is also no actual human history any older than 6,000 years old. We have actual genealogies of the people that survived the flood going all the way back to Adam and Eve. It has already been proven that we are not directly descended from the people that died in the flood because, of course, they died in the flood.
@Seekmosttoprophesy Neolithic settlements in Ancient Egypt. around 8000 years old. Ancient India has Mehrgarh, 7000 BC. Göbekli Tepe, currently being excavated and dated around 11 500 years old. Plenty of human history.
@Lashmush funny dating methods do not count because there is no way to verify the results other than from actual history that has actual genealogies of people that we already know about. Besides, a difference of a few thousand years is not enough to prove evolution anyway. You missed the point. The human history that we have shows that we just appeared on the scene 6,014 years ago.
@Seekmosttoprophesy so written evidence is the only verifiable evidence? archaeological evidence does not count? Also, please clarify what you define as "funny dating methods".
@Lashmush It is the archeological finds that has verified the written records and the fossil finds verify the flood as well. Funny dating methods are methods of dating that have no way of verifying their accuracy. You also cannot date something that has become 100% contaminated by its surroundings. That is just lunacy.
@Seekmosttoprophesy so the entire neolithic era never happened, yet fossil findings verify a flood occurred. Fossil findings use radiocarbon dating, the same method used to date the Göbekli Tepe findings. There is alot of evidence of human history older than 6014 years old. We did not simply pop up as large civilizations.
@Lashmush Fossil findings do not do anything. They just remain there as evidence of the flood. You can't date something that is 100% contaminated by its surroundings because its surroundings are older that the fossils. That is speculation, it is not science. At best, it is a guesstimation and it is still not science.
@Seekmosttoprophesy 100% contaminated by its surroundings? You're saying that if old water or any other material touches an ancient bone, this will somehow affect the radiocarbon dating of it? They do not simply scrape a surface of a bone to date it.
@Lashmush I am saying that if a fossil becomes entirely mineralized, it is entirely contaminated by its surroundings so any dating would be affected by the age of the surrounding contamination. You have no way of comparing your results because there is nothing to compare them to. We have over 260 some accounts other than the Bible that describe the same flood with the same details as bad people, one family, a large boat, animals and birds released to see if it was safe outside.
Don't waste your time agrguing with this schmuck. He is only going to drag you down in his rabbit hole of delusion and hallucinations. It is a lossed cause to argue with someone like seekmosttoprophesy who doesn't even know how to spell prophecy correctly. He's hopelessly convinced so it's a meaningless battle to go back and forth with him, it's just not going to lead anywhere.
I change my position on your intelligence you are a very smart man but it is so frustrating that even with someone of your brain capacity and honestly sit here and defend what the bible says. The bible is so contradictory it's not even funny. It just shows even the smartest of people can be brainwashed into believing in this mythology and folklore. Thats was so sad.
@Wordlaw12 You have to address the issues. You did not address any of the issues so you cannont make blanket statements without backing up what you say with anything. That is just slander for no good reason. The Bible is not mythical, it is very historical. It is also the only teaching that has been around from the time of Adam and Eve saying that a Savior (God) would be born of a woman. You wouldn't know that because no one ever told you.
Even if there was a huge global flood what happened to the dinosaurs that lived in the water. Surely, the increase in sea level couldn't have had that much impact that even they would die of off. Are you telling me that Noah even got a hold of two every species of insect, mammal, reptiles ect on that boat? Lol You are a funny guy
@Wordlaw12 The sea monsters (like Spinosaurus) lived long after the flood. They were still talking about them at the time of King David. That is the reason there are many teeth of them but very few bones have been found. What we see today is what remains of the world that once was.
Yeah Yeah who cares about that dinosaur what about the others. The T-rex, Raptors. terrydactls, why didn't Noah bring them hmm. And you guys make me sick with this "you just don't want to take responsibility with your actions" nonsense. Look, I would love for there to be a afterlife and maybe it is but it probably won't be anything like what we think it is.
@Wordlaw12 All of the animals could have been young. That leaves a lot of room left on the Ark and it also makes a lot more sense. You would like for there to be ane equal and opposite reaction for everything that we do??? In that case, we need a Savior to take the punishment for everything that we have done. Oh, someone thought of that already and it wans't any man. The first mention of a provision for us was spoken to Adam and Eve 6,000 years ago.
@Seekmosttoprophesy There is no way to verify the genealogies presented in the bible. However, they are obviously false, considering we know how long people lived at that times (lots of bones to examine), and the stories of the bible state that some lived for like 200 years, which is obviously false.
You provide counter-proof to your own points time and again.
@Superslemmet Bones are not genealogies. People only lived longer if they were born before the flood. DNA testing can show if you are directly descended from Moses' brother Aaron. Of course the genealogies are real. The genealogy from Noah to Adam is of people that you are directly descended from. Lamech and Methuselah are your many times great grandfathers.
@Seekmosttoprophesy We will never get anywhere with this, mainly because it is common knowledge for those who havent been living under rock the the last oh, say 150 years that the bible isn't true.
It seems to me like you think what is true or not is a matter of opinion. It's not. The are fact which exists independent of our wishes and views, and we don't live in a fairyland where stuff comes to life and commands us to commit genocide.
Get an education before making statements which require such
@Superslemmet God would never destroy innocent honest people because nobody is innocent to begin with. The truth is not a matter of what we think. It is a matter of what is and what is not and it is what our Creator/God says. You need to get an education about the world around you and how things were made as they are. It is simple observation that lets us know that the universe is by design.
@Seekmosttoprophesy I was not referring to god destroying anyone. I was referring to him commanding a people to destroy another people. That is genocide, and excuses that "the voices in my head told me to do it" doesn't make it just in any way.
You position does not allow for logic. For the bible to be true, it must also make statements that can be false. I you deny any pointing out if its false statements, the true ones have no meaning.
You either follow reality (logic), or fantasy (faith).
@Superslemmet The problem is that it is not up to you to define what Scripture is saying so you also cannot judge what it says. It is only because of the Bible that there is any kind of rule of law today. People throughout all time have determined that the Bible is the most reasonable and useful book there is. It is not my fault that all other books fail by comparison. You can't argue with the truth, you can't argue with the facts and you can't be making things up.
@Seekmosttoprophesy Are you saying I can't judge the bible for what is written within? By what other criteria can I judge its message?
The bible makes lots of statements that are without a doubt false. The earth is not at the centre of the universe, it was not created in 7 days, most of it's teachings do not promote human happiness and a good life.
The main reason the western world became dominant was its ability to stop following the bible/(its holy book), same with the arab world before europe
@Superslemmet The Bible says that the only One who can interpret God's word is the Spirit of God. You have to ask Him. The universe (the heavens and the earth) was made before life on earth was made. The apparent age of the earth is *not* the same as the age of life on earth. It is only because of learning about God that we ever became anything other than tribal. If not, people would still be sacrificing their children. Abraham did not because of his belief in Christ.
@Seekmosttoprophesy The world is more than just the US and Europe, if you had gone to school you would know that.
Asia developed technology long before Europe, though that progress was hindered by an extreme adherence to their cultural laws and ways.
It is because we don't follow the bible that we have such prosperity. If we did, we would have to kill your own children if they insult us, and destroy our own town with everyone inside if just one follows another faith.
@Superslemmet You are very misinformed. Have you ever heard of the grace and mercy of God? The Chinese calendar does not precede the flood and there is also a year of the dragon in it.
@Seekmosttoprophesy Have you not heard of history class? It's both awesome, and it describes what actually happened in ancient days! It can help us figure out why the world is how is. Go figure....
@Superslemmet I am all for history. It is evolution that contradicts historical events. It is history that has all of the information of what the world was like before the flood. It is from history that we have actual descriptions of living dinosaurs.
@Seekmosttoprophesy I think you have some things mixed up. History is a form of science. For something to be considered history, we need corroborating evidence.
Evolution is science. Same here, you always need good evidence for your claim to be taken seriously.
The bible is neither. It is not history, since it has no corroborating evidence, and not science since it can't back any of it's claims up.
@Superslemmet What the Bible says is backed up so much more than evolution is. Evolution has no science backing it while the Bible has observable evidence, science and history all backing what it says. We have both the historical accounts of the flood and the fossils to prove it. We also have the observable evidence of nanomachines that work to show the design of our Creator.
@Seekmosttoprophesy As I said before, you have obviously not had any education. Try reading a proper book instead of that bible of yours. Or better jet, try reading more about the bible. No one who knows how the bible was created can believe its authenticity.
This feels like arguing about where babies come from with a proponent of the stork-theory.
And and evolution is a fact. The theory of evolution explains how that fact work.
@Superslemmet You can't explain what doesn't ever happen in any kind of condition or circumstances. History is a fact and history says that millions of life forms were buried all over the world by the flood and we have the fossils to prove it. Evolution is just like the stork theory. It is nothing more than fantasy. It is a baseless cult teaching that people like you believe. There is not a shred of evidence for evolution.
@Seekmosttoprophesy But as said, there are to date 20 observed occasions of new species forming. It has been observed for crying out loud.
I assume you don't work in science nor biology, so the harm you are doing is hopefully negligible.
However, if/when you have kids, I hope you allow them to explore our world and all the amazing things it holds, instead of forcing them to bow down to an imaginary beast that the world does not hold.
@Superslemmet Variations of the same species is not really a new species. That is what explains the vast number of "new species" there are after the flood. Monkeys remain monkeys and fish remain fish. Mutations do not act on the genome that fast and mutations are corrected anyway for the sake of the viability of the species. Of course the world does not know the truth. It is evolution that is imaginary and it is also a lying beast. Only honest people know the truth.
@Superslemmet@Superslemmet What the Bible says is backed up so much more than evolution is. Evolution has no science backing it while the Bible has observable evidence, science and history all backing what it says. We have both the historical accounts of the flood and the fossils to prove it. We also have the observable evidence of nanomachines that work to show the design of our Creator. Evolution is nothing but fantasy.
@Seekmosttoprophesy Just a quick question. How do you explain the fact that scientists who do not follow the bible produce a huge amount of useful and verifiable results yearly, whilst those who base their science on the bible produce nothing at all?
Should that not give us a hint at what basis for reason we should use? Holy text vs empirical testing?
@Superslemmet Easy, it's for the same reason that a scientist that based his entire world view on the Lord of The Rings would likely produce nothing of value to anyone lol
@Superslemmet People who wish they had something better to do find nothing more than a few bone fragments and they make up stories to try to get funding. That proves nothing. It is a disgrace to science. What if we have found Noah's Ark? Then what would you have to say? We are digging up ancient Israel all the time.
@Superslemmet No, the Bible says the mountains were pushed up after the flood. You have bad information. Of course what the Bible says is true. It names your ancestors from Noah all the way back to Adam and Eve. I hope they do find Noah's Ark so we can get rid of the fantasy of evolution once and for all. The fossils (and Noah's Ark) are evidence of the flood.
This guys a moron I thought for a second he was sharp but no. He is just like any other brainwashed individual who refuse to see religion for what it is. Your not going to get through to him. He said that "evolution has no science backing it up" but the bible can back up all of it's claims? Really? Don't waste your time man this dude drinks Jesus Juice every night before he goes to bed.
@Wordlaw12 Whoever believes in Yeshua/Jesus will not be disappointed because His word is true. I would believe Yeshua before anyone else. He is God's only begotten Son. His Holy Spirit is the only link that we have to eternal life. Listen to Him when He speaks to you. This is pure science, and it is true. Only God,s word is perfect. He can restore us to what we once were before Adam and Eve sinned when word of the provision for sin was given.
I take it back your not as smart as I thought you were. My friend you are so deluded it's not even funny. And if Jesus Christ wiped are slate clean for the sins commited by are Forefathers(Adam,Eve ect.) why is childbirth still painful why can't we live for centuries like they did back the? Why do men still have Adam's apples? Your a fool you bought into it and you make excuses when you know your wrong. Science over religion anyday
@Wordlaw12 It is up to you to show me if I am wrong in anything. Address the issues. Objects do not order any observable directives that have intent and purpose from preexisting designs. You are the one who is deluded. God made us male and female because nothing else could. You can't be both physically dead and living at the same time. You have to be one or the other. Yeshua is the One who said that we will live even if we die if we believe His true word.
And how do you know that there is a god,let me guess the bible. I can't stand how you clowns talk down on others like you truely know how it all began. You only get your information from a book written by sheepherders thousands of years ago. How can you speak of truth when there is no evidence of all the bullshit in the bible? Get your delusional ass out of here!!!
@Wordlaw12 Correction, it is a whole series of collections of records from sheepherders throughout all time of known human history. That is the very thing that makes it so significant. With every copy that was made, it became harder to change what was said. The evidence is that there really was a flood that buried all of the fossils and there really were sauropods and Spinosaurus like creatures that are described in the Bible and there is Christ too.
@darkmiles22 no Boromir is boorish and goes insane at the end, Hitchens has gotten more lucid with age, I think he'd fit better as Aragorn. He's got the same sarcastic and confident air to him.
I kinda think that's why Boromir is perfect for Hitchens. Neither is afraid of taking positions his compatriots find detestable, and both are willing to use sarcasm when the situation allows it and can get much more riled up about a subject than Aragorn. Aragorn is supposed to be wiser than Boromir, but it always seemed to me that he was just more cautious, which is not necessarily a virtue in my book, though it worked out in his favor in Tolkien's.
I like where they started off on this 11th video. keep the art and history of religion, cut out the bullshit. Really one needs not to believe in Santa Claus to enjoy Christmas, and indeed it is the same with all forms of cultural expression, and also art.
@grimwatcher They don't want the history because it is the history of the flood that disproves evolution because it is the flood that explains all of the fossils we see buried around the world. When you have no reason to be in the "Christmas spirit" you are just spacing out for no reason.
I don't think you're listening. They want the culture, the traditions, the literature, they want all those things about religious thoughts which enrich society. The Universal flood didn't happen. it is no more historically accurate than Cinderella. It is a well known fact that genesis is an amalgamation of Babylonian, and other myths of the area. Shouldn't confuse fairy tales with facts.
@grimwatcher The worldwide flood is the only explanation there is of everything that we see. The mountains and the oceans of today are a direct result of the flood. All of the fossils that we have seen and haven't seen are the life forms that were buried by the flood. The Bible has the genealogies of our ancestors going all the way back to Adam and Eve. The human fossils that we find are people that died in the flood. DNA testing has proven they are not directly related to any of us.
How do you expect religion to be taken seriously when it refuses to let go of Santa Claus? I don't think you have to be an atheist to believe that evolution happened, I mean God might have set up the universe to run it's own course according to natural laws, don't get me wrong that's not what I believe, I'm an atheist, but when your religion gets int he way of accepting facts, it's just worrisome
@grimwatcher It is your imagination, speculation, conjecture and fantasy that is of concern. There is a lot of evidence of Creation. All science supports Creation. It is not without reason that people believe in Creation. No matter how much evidence there is, you still have to believe it and there is a lot of evidence.
Wow, just wow! Did you even read your statement? don't you find it contradictory that you have dismissed science and claimed that it supported your opinion?
Sorry to break it up to you but evolutionary theory is on par with gravitational theory, electromagnetic theory, germ theory, etc etc. as an explanation for our world. Evolution is both fact and theory.
@grimwatcher You have a lot of wishful thinking going on there. Evolution is a real joke. It is not even close to science because there is no basis for it. Don't hold on to it because you will go down with it. Stay as far away from it as possible because it is nothing more than a fantasy. No reptile ever became a mammal. Things do not change the basic structure of what they are. The sum total of mutations only always destroy life. That is the reason mutations are corrected. Dont be silly.
@MrJmm999 In order to get one useful mutation, you have to also have had millions of harmful mutations so the one useful mutation is useless because the species has already died.
@MrJmm999 If you don't know about the DNA evidence that the people that died in the flood are not directly related to us, you don't know enough to have an opinion. What I have is historical information that fits with the observable fossil evidence that we see.
of course dennett likes christmas, why else would he look like that?
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"Dead-to-the-spirit deluded "God Delusion" author & blithering fool scientist goon Richard Dawkins another "leader" given to the profane masses is another useful idiot for Jesuit machinations"-C.O.
Jesuitical: pertaining to the Jesuits or their principals; designing; cunning; deceitful; prevaricating
The Jesuits completely altered the education system to suit their Evo-Hoax agenda to discredit the Bible. They cant have a Satanic society of 'Do as Thou Wilt' if people still follow the Bible.
SpencerBenedict2nd 4 months ago
Like Dawkins "mach dich mein herze rein" is one of my favourite pieces of music and I am not a theist either.
jagara1 4 months ago
Sam needs a refill, LOL!
peteagassi 4 months ago
People are sooooooo easily outraged. Like Tony Harrison.
People are sooooooo ready to get shit faced. Like Tony Harrison.
Thats it im just going to worship Tony Harrison.
Dgoosh1000 4 months ago
Wow, watching these four luminaries at work is like observing an ancient Greek symposium...without the pederasty, of course, though I have a feeling that Christopher Hitchens would be up to it if the others were. After all, his years at Oxford were not exclusively restricted to flings with women.
writersblock26 5 months ago 2
I'll bet Hitchen's water bottle was full of vodka, not water.
ClamCrunchy 6 months ago 6
Hahaha 66,666 views! Somehow appropriate...
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youneekk 6 months ago
I love Richards German :D
AxeHomeless 9 months ago
I don't understand why some Atheists are so opposed to Christmas. It's not about Jesus...it's a non-religious celebration. I get very excited around Christmas time because I know my whole family will get together, we'll all share some laughs and stories, and it'll just be a great day to be alive and to have the gift of knowledge & consciousness that gives us the ability to feel such wonderful emotions as joy and fulfillment. This is the only life we get so make the best of it. I love Christmas.
andyrooney12 9 months ago 2
Funny thing is that in countries like sweden christmas isn't called christmas Julafton. Hasn't got anything to do with christianity.
Hermoor 10 months ago
I just love how Dakwins, Dennet, and Hitchens are all about twenty perhaps even thrity years older than Sam, but yet, they have a high level of respect for him as he holds his own. I enjoy these men's rational minds, and dedication to quite an ironic subject of superstition.
UtopiaMinor666 10 months ago 2
Damn I love Dawkins!
missgOObee 11 months ago
Richard Dawkins just shuts them down. Hard.
indiegoblue 11 months ago
If Dawkins really cared about the truth of the matter of whether god really exists, he wouldn't have made carelessly fallacious arguments against him and called them a 'statistical demonstration' against a 'scientific hypothesis' in The God Delusion.
drunkagnostic 1 year ago
@drunkagnostic Man . . . go away. I've seen your sorry ass all over these boards saying the same old shit. You're not being serious, you're trying to start an argument simply for the sake of having an argument. None of the crap you've posted makes any goddamn sense. How is positing a statistical improbability a fallacious argument? How does that go against a scientific hypothesis? WHAT IN THE BLUE FUCK ARE YOU EVEN TALKING ABOUT???
billbenblue 1 year ago 17
@billbenblue Obviously I'm talking about The God Delusion, where Dawkins failed to show even informally what he claimed to show 'statistically' and 'scientifically' : that god's as unlikely as garden-fairies.
I mean that quite seriously and it makes plenty of goddamn sense.
drunkagnostic 11 months ago
@drunkagnostic Obviously, you're drunk. :p
Drgamedood 10 months ago 2
Huge admirer of all these men, but Hitch has a habit of talking over people. Great discussion nonetheless.
blackestjake 1 year ago
"I like solstices as much as the next person" Haha yes we're all big fans of them.
nkennedy09 1 year ago
5:02 Even though this is a fairly serious discussion I thought I would point out the humorous little mumblings of Hitchens and Dawkins. It sounds like Dawkins didn't quite understand what Hitchens said.
miketheman321 1 year ago
I think the wedge for parting people from their religious beliefs is in this part: you can love your religious traditions and stories and take what you want from them without believing the parts that make no sense and for which there is no evidence.
scruffyexaminer 1 year ago
This may be the key to the atheist movement. Maybe we should start a movement called "Atheists for Jesus" that advocates the MYTHS of Christianity with the same of enthusiasm we could have with Gilgamesh, or Hamlet, or The Iliad and Odyssey, etc. That might get to the heart of the cognitive dissonance of Christians. They would be hard pressed to criticise an enthusiastic compliment to the mythos of Christ, but by not embracing that compliment they also embrace the fact that it is only symbolic.
greyeyed123 1 year ago
I totally didn't think how when they see christmas coming the ready their battlestations, it exites me that I can be apart of this. even though my dad is a preacher this might come in conflict with his employment
hempartist420 1 year ago
Religions aren't like pharmaceutical companies; they are like oil companies! Islam is BP, Christianity is Exxon, and Judaism, Hinduism, and Buddhism are ConocoPhillips, Chevron, and Shell. The first is causing a mess now, the second has caused a big mess in the past, and all the others are a mild burden to be tolerated!
darkmiles22 1 year ago
This reminds me of my dad and three of my uncles around the dinner table at christmas (all highly intelligent individuals), all debating and pontificating on religion, literature, art etc. My dad would be Hitchens.....pontificating on things whilst steadily getting more and more hammered lol! Sam actually reminds me of one of my uncles too xxx
raspberryripple88 1 year ago
I find that Dennett ruins this entire thing.
floydclaptonblues 1 year ago
Stop man just stop, first of all the Neanderthal had a very short life span on averaged was np greater than 27 years of age.
kaiyeem 1 year ago
@kaiyeem Neanderthal have an appearance of great age. That is why they have the bigger eyebrows but they may have appeared younger even with great age.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
@Seekmosttoprophesy My brother told me there was a lead paint baby on here and its you.There was no flood Jackass.Civilization never stopped.You really need to read a book.Put that Bible down retard and stop drinking lead paint slurpees.
LutaLivre113 1 year ago
@LutaLivre113 I can't fault your humor but I can fault your lack of reason. There was a flood. They found the Ark. The fossils are the evidence of the flood. They still have not uncovered all of the species that were buried by the flood. The Bible is far more reasonable than any text book you have read. The text books are constantly changing but the Bible is the record of what actually happened. It lists the actual genealogies of the real people that we are all related to.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
@Seekmosttoprophesy Troll, Troll, Trolley Troll... Idiot.
HackingBlade 1 year ago
@HackingBlade Address the issues.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
@Seekmosttoprophesy
"They found the Ark" Nope; That's a natural formation, & wrong size & shape. "fossils are evidence of the flood" Paleontologists say not. "..still have not uncovered all of the species..." then YOU don't know. The Bible is far more reasonable than any text book" Nope; contradictions & falsehoods. "..the Bible is the record of what actually happened" Some of it has been completely disproven! "...actual genealogies of the real people.." You don't know they were real.
queenastilon 1 year ago
@queenastilon That is the Ark because you didn't even see it yet. They found seven parts of it most of the parts being entire rooms of various sizes and it is in the location where it is supposed to be. You are kidding yourself. There are far too many fossils around the world covered by far too much sediment from the flood for your version of events to be true.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
@Seekmosttoprophesy lol are you actually proposing that noah actually gathered up every fucking species on earth in here and put them on a boat in here? you must be out of your skull
hempartist420 1 year ago
@hempartist420 There has been a lot of variation of species since the time of Noah. You can't suggest that each species today would have had to fit on the Ark. The number of species was much less than it is today. There was a pair of dog, a pair of cat, a pair of camel or something like that and there was seven of every clean animal, sheep, cows etc.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
@Seekmosttoprophesy If you are not kidding, you make me very sad
hempartist420 1 year ago
@hempartist420 Address an issue. Objects do not make or order themsleves.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
@Seekmosttoprophesy i was addressing an issue YOU brought up moron, whether you think noah actually put animals on a boat
hempartist420 1 year ago
@hempartist420 What you think does not prove anything. You think there was no boat. That proves nothing. The Ark is up there two miles high stuck in a glacier. All life on earth was buried by the sediments brought up by the flood except for what was on the Ark and whatever survived in the flood waters.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
@Seekmosttoprophesy actually, what you think DOES prove something, the things you say are evidence that you are a complete idiot. Look, if you if you ACTUALLY think that noah, gathered up all the effing animals on earth (as diverse as it is today, unless you believe in evolution), and then a world wide flood occurred covering the circumference of the earth. you sir would be a gullible fool and it would be hard to credit anything you say to truth
hempartist420 1 year ago
@hempartist420 The only time I say people are not addressing the issues is when they forget about the issues and start attacking me instead of speaking to the issues. We already know that everything that was not on the Ark became fossils or frozen in the polar regions.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
@hempartist420 One bang did not make the machine parts that work inside of you. The universe did not evolve billions of times to get the machine parts inside of you to work. The machine parts also did not order or direct themselves. They did not order billions of digits of observable directives. You cannot give credit to objects for things they cannot do. That is object worship giving atributes to things that they do not have. It is not science. It is not true. Give it up.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
@Seekmosttoprophesy you actually believe in the childish noah story, therefore your version of science must be a bit twisted anyway. what DO you give credit for this half-assed creation? attributing this to a supernatural being is more ludicrous than giving credit to evolution which is observed all the time. you say "object worship", as if it is any better to worship something that cannot be seen or touched, THAT is not science
hempartist420 1 year ago 2
@Seekmosttoprophesy you're not very bright and your ignorance of basic physics and biology is abundantly clear in your response. In an ideal world, you would be embarrassed and hurry to a college to correct yourself.
BrendanIsCool 1 year ago 2
@Seekmosttoprophesy Wrong. Atoms form molecules without the interventions of an agent.
Alexdurrant7 9 months ago 2
@Seekmosttoprophesy Are you Marginally Retarded?This planet has never been destroyed by a fictitious flood.Your flood alledgedly happened about 2000 B.C. Yet not one civilization reports being destroyed.Where is the evidence of your flood?
muitobonito113 1 year ago
@muitobonito113 The civilizations did not report the flood because they were destroyed by the flood. Talk about being retarded, The geology of the earth show great signs of extreme upheaval with millions of buried fossils around the world, the majority of which haven't even been found yet because of the tons of sediments that cover them.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
Seriously that is the best you have for your beliefs ABRAHAM lmao whom which nobody has ever proved even existed. Do you really think that man lived for 600- 900 years before dying, when somehow we only live to be 65 on average in this country. Back then people did not live a long time on average past the age of forty.
kaiyeem 1 year ago
@kaiyeem You don't even seem to realize that all of Creation was utterly destroyed. There is no possible way for us to live hundreds of years without the healing that only God can bring. It was God who intentionally shortened our lives in the first place. Do you not know anything??? Human fossils found show signs of great age.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
@Seekmosttoprophesy Oh to the M G, please let us all know where these skeletal remains are being held of people who lived to be of great age as you are claiming and by great age you are suggesting in terms of several hundred years correct?
kaiyeem 1 year ago
@kaiyeem The Neanderthal skeletons that show large eyebrows and such are the signs of great age in humans. That is the only way that we can tell the age of adult humans.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
@Seekmosttoprophesy Lol Neanderthal did not live to reach great ages, plus they are a part of evolution, the bible does not mention them. So what are you talking about stop it, I refuse to believe you are really that silly. How are you ? I am starting to think you are a naive teenager or something.
kaiyeem 1 year ago
@kaiyeem The thick eyebrows of the neanderthal are indicative of great age. That is a fact. It is also a fact that they are human.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
@Seekmosttoprophesy
"Neanderthal skeletons show large eyebrows..." No. That's called hair. It grows from skin. Skull shape does not "show" eyebrows
"...signs of great age in humans." Nope; only a sign of genetic predisposition to grow lots of hair there
"...the only way that we can tell the age of adult humans." No!
~headdesk~
Look , this & your other posts show an incredible amount of nonsense you need to unlearn.
It's astounding that you accuse others of believing foolishness!
queenastilon 1 year ago
@queenastilon Yes, you believe foolishness because no objects in nature make us what we are. That is called idol worship.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
Does your god intefere with free will SEEKMOSTTOPROHESY ?
kaiyeem 1 year ago
@kaiyeem Free will is a human definition. Don't you know that God is able to make all grace abound toward you so that you always will have all grace in every situation? All you have to do is to be humble enough to ask Him for that grace but you first need to believe that He is and that He is a rewarder of those who *diligently* seek Him.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
@Seekmosttoprophesy Oh really, have you ever thought to yourself why would a pastor who knows more about the bible than me would become an ATHEIST? Is your bible an accurate representation of your god? Do you speak in tongues too?
Do you pay tithes as well?
kaiyeem 1 year ago
@kaiyeem The Bible says that speaking in tongues is the least important thing. The Bible is the only record of God from the beginning of Creation. It is not God's fault that people don't hear what He says and it is not His fault they do not heed what they do know of what God says. There is a lot to know about God and a lot to remember. What makes you so sure that that "pastor" knows anything at all about God?
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
LOL! Dennett talking about Christmas is hilarious, because he looks so much like Santa Claus
nyblake 1 year ago
Harris and Hitchens seem to be tackling the question constantly from a 'practical' point of view, how the belief in god(s) affects the world currently and has done previously. Dawkins, forever the academic, often discards that concern and is focused on truth: is a belief in god justified or not etc. Good to see them all together, they cover each others weaknesses and collectively present a broader coverage of the questions from many starting points of view.
TerryDBlack 1 year ago
@seemmosttoprophecy why are you even posting comments on this video, you're certainly not going to change any of our 'atheists' minds ESPECIALLY going down the 'bible is fact' route. Its best you keep your delusional opinions to yourself or feel free to discuss it with your feeble minded peers at church on sunday.
DNiv89 1 year ago
@DNiv89 You are the ones who don't know the facts because the Bible is based on facts.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
On a Christmas: "It's a good old Norse boozer, why not?" - Hitchens:)
unicorn187 1 year ago 14
@Superslemmet Hipocrites are not allowed to teach anything because they disqualify themselves. You can only teach what you know yourself to be true. When/if the child sees that you are telling them the truth, they will do the same. You have to know the Bible before you can teach it. Beating a child because you want to shows that you don't even know what the Bible is talking about.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
Atoms and elements are interchangeable nanoparts that do work with intent and purpose that *no* object has. 10 seconds ago
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
@Seekmosttoprophesy how do you know that? If they are just natural objects, they do work with intent and purpose.
You are obviously trying to mash the facts into a pre-existing theory, not making a theory to fit the facts.
It's a common mistake, but it is still unscientific, and a very good indicator that you on the wrong track.
Superslemmet 1 year ago
@Superslemmet Scientists already agree that objects do not act with intent or purpose. You are just wrong because your conclusion is wrong no matter how you arrive at it, objects do not order any directives with intent or purpose. The Bible happens to be true. That is for you to recognize. If you are an honest responsible person, you will confess that what the Bible says is true.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
@Seekmosttoprophesy Lets play a little game. Say you grew up having never heard about god or the bible, and then one day later in life, you found a copy of it in your library.
If you are even remotely intelligent, you would conclude that this book is not fact, but old stories and myths.
To be honest, I can't even seriously relate to any grown-up who honestly believes in Santa or fairies. Invisible sky wizard is what the bible teaches us is true.
It's falsehood is so plain to see its ridiculous.
Superslemmet 1 year ago
@Superslemmet If I had never heard of the Bible, it should be investigated to see what it says. It speaks of the Philistines, Arab tribes, Egyptians, actual names and places of actual people, Jericho and countless places have been found. Even the same mountain passages have been found time after time. What is not to believe about what it says? We should expect to see millions of buried life forms under tons of sediments.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
@Seekmosttoprophesy Well, the Odysseus does the same, but we don't believe in Minotaurs or giants for that. Please explain to me why the bible should be an exception?
Superslemmet 1 year ago
@Superslemmet The Bible is an exception because it is exceptional and it told us of Christ before there were any other beliefs when even the bad people talked to God. There was no question about who God was. Everyone knew He was the Creator.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
@Seekmosttoprophesy I don't come from a Christian background. Where I'm from no one "knew he was the creator". I think you need to grasp that the bible is no more exceptional than for example the koran. It's special to you, but that does not make is special to the world
Have you read Plato? A quite brilliant philosopher, with a highly advanced moral reasoning. He had never even heard about the bible, because he lived 2400 years ago. How could he be moral when he had never heard the word of god?
Superslemmet 1 year ago
@Superslemmet You assume that there was no word of God 2400 years ago. The very first word of Christ was 6,000 years ago. The koran is no more than 1400 years old and it only repeats some of what the Bible says. In the first few generations after Adam, there was no doubt about God being the Creator. Even the bad people talked to God and knew He was the Creator. Cain killed Able and asked God to protect him and God did set up the first city of refuge for Cain.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
@Seekmosttoprophesy There were no "word form God" in ancient Greece! You are driving me nuts, you have no grasp of history, physics, geology, biology or philosophy. You make claims whose only source is the Bible, and which have been proven wrong time and time again.
The Bible is flat out wrong. It's made up by humans, for humans, and the evidence against it is so staggering you need to be brainwashed to not see it.
Open your eyes to the world, it's a lot more amazing than you think.
Superslemmet 1 year ago
@Superslemmet The Bible contains records from long before there ever was a Greece, Egypt or China. In fact, other than the Bible, there is no actual human history that is any older than 4,400 years. Only the Bible has actual genealogies going from Abraham back ten generations to Noah and 1,600 additional years to Adam and Eve.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
@Seekmosttoprophesy Are you aware of the fact that Israeli archaeologists have been trying to prove the historical accounts from the old testament for the last 50 years? The are hardcore Jewish believers, backed up by even more fundamentalists political parties.
You know what they have proven so far?
That there was no migration from Egypt, no flood in the area at around the time the bible says it was, and that even the existence of the Amalekites is highly doubtful.
Just so you know...
Superslemmet 1 year ago
@Superslemmet Yes, there is evidence of the migration from Egypt and the route that they took through to Arabia. Solomon erected a column on both sides to commemorate the crossing.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
@Seekmosttoprophesy To put is simple. No. There is evidence that Jews have lived in Egypt for a long time, and nothing points to them leaving Egypt en mass.
If they all left, their settlements would have gone away from Egypt, but they did not. Also, the old Egyptians had a quite extensive tax-collecting system, and border-control, and their records show nothing of a lot of Jews leaving their land.
Superslemmet 1 year ago
@Superslemmet You have to go by the information that we have. Egypt did turn from many gods to one god for a short time which is an extraordinary thing to have happened. The route through the mountains to the red see is there to this day and one pillar on each side of the Red Sea Crossing was erected by King Solomon where they crossed. There are also Egyptian cows and alters in Arabia where they crossed over on the other side. That is the information that we do have.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
@Seekmosttoprophesy And it doesn't really answer my question that the bible has stories that say they are really old.
How come our modern society, and our modern morals that have produced more health and happiness than any other recorded society, when our society and morals are based on the thinking of the ancient Greece, and not the bible?
And the fact that those ancient thinkers had never even heard about the bible or Jews (because, at that time Judaism was strictly for Jews) .
Superslemmet 1 year ago
@Superslemmet Our society and morals are based more on the Judeo Christian ethic than anything else, especially in the United States. You are naive to think that people were not influenced by the Jews but it has nothing to do with what people think. It has to do with what the fact are.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
@Seekmosttoprophesy Maybe in the US, but even your constitution is secular. The basis for all successful western societies is absolutely not the bible. Some turn to the bible for a basis of morality, but most thankfully do not. I mean, in most of western Europe child abuse is illegal, even though the bible explicitly encourage it.
"He who spareth the rod hateth his son: but he that loveth him correcteth him betimes" (Proverbs 13:24)
Superslemmet 1 year ago
@Superslemmet You encourage child abuse by not caring for your child.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
@Seekmosttoprophesy You must be kidding me? The quote is written as clear as it can get. Those who do not physically abuse their children do not follow the bible.
God has commanded that you must hit your kids, and if they insult you, you must kill them.
It such a nice and loving book, and produces such happy families...
Superslemmet 1 year ago
@Superslemmet What you fail to understand is that God cannot speak or allow anything less than perfection from us. He cannot say anything less than perfect or require anything less than perfect. That is what His grace, mercy and provision for sin that only He can provide for us is all about. You are being extremely abusive yourself and you don't even realize it because you never learned any manners. It is all about caring about the truth which you don't seem to care about.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
@Seekmosttoprophesy But that proverb has been proven to be false! Children subject to physical and mental abuse always grow up with emotional scars that hurt them and makes their lives less happy. They also have a much higher chance of propagating the same behaviour to their own children, leading to more misery. This has been proven time and time again, and that's why most civilised nations have banned its practice.
Following the bible leads a people to misery and suffering.
Superslemmet 1 year ago
@Superslemmet BTW, Greece is relatively modern history compared to the others.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
You can't talk about what there is no evidence of. You can only talk about what we have evidence of. Since there is no evidence of evolution, it belongs in the realm of speculation, conjecture, imagination and fantasy.
There is observable evidence of Creation and there is also the historical record of the flood and of Creation complete with the genealogies of your ancestors from the flood back to the Creation.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
I'd like to propose to SeekMosttoprophesy that cities and such mentioned in the Bible are not evidence of God, but evidence that those places and things existed when the text was written. You can't prove one ounce of creationism or the miracles in the bible. If you can I'd like to hear it.
omgimontheinternet 1 year ago
@omgimontheinternet Yes, the cities in the Bible did exist and the biblical flood did happen and that is the reason for all of the fossils that we see. There is also no actual human history any older than 6,000 years old. We have actual genealogies of the people that survived the flood going all the way back to Adam and Eve. It has already been proven that we are not directly descended from the people that died in the flood because, of course, they died in the flood.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
There is actually human history older than 6,000 years old. In fact there is human history dating tens of thousands of years back.
Lashmush 1 year ago
@Lashmush There is no verifiable human history any older than 6,014 years.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
@Seekmosttoprophesy Neolithic settlements in Ancient Egypt. around 8000 years old. Ancient India has Mehrgarh, 7000 BC. Göbekli Tepe, currently being excavated and dated around 11 500 years old. Plenty of human history.
Lashmush 1 year ago
@Lashmush funny dating methods do not count because there is no way to verify the results other than from actual history that has actual genealogies of people that we already know about. Besides, a difference of a few thousand years is not enough to prove evolution anyway. You missed the point. The human history that we have shows that we just appeared on the scene 6,014 years ago.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
@Seekmosttoprophesy so written evidence is the only verifiable evidence? archaeological evidence does not count? Also, please clarify what you define as "funny dating methods".
Lashmush 1 year ago
@Lashmush It is the archeological finds that has verified the written records and the fossil finds verify the flood as well. Funny dating methods are methods of dating that have no way of verifying their accuracy. You also cannot date something that has become 100% contaminated by its surroundings. That is just lunacy.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
@Seekmosttoprophesy so the entire neolithic era never happened, yet fossil findings verify a flood occurred. Fossil findings use radiocarbon dating, the same method used to date the Göbekli Tepe findings. There is alot of evidence of human history older than 6014 years old. We did not simply pop up as large civilizations.
Lashmush 1 year ago
@Lashmush Fossil findings do not do anything. They just remain there as evidence of the flood. You can't date something that is 100% contaminated by its surroundings because its surroundings are older that the fossils. That is speculation, it is not science. At best, it is a guesstimation and it is still not science.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
@Seekmosttoprophesy 100% contaminated by its surroundings? You're saying that if old water or any other material touches an ancient bone, this will somehow affect the radiocarbon dating of it? They do not simply scrape a surface of a bone to date it.
Lashmush 1 year ago
@Lashmush I am saying that if a fossil becomes entirely mineralized, it is entirely contaminated by its surroundings so any dating would be affected by the age of the surrounding contamination. You have no way of comparing your results because there is nothing to compare them to. We have over 260 some accounts other than the Bible that describe the same flood with the same details as bad people, one family, a large boat, animals and birds released to see if it was safe outside.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
@Lashmush
Don't waste your time agrguing with this schmuck. He is only going to drag you down in his rabbit hole of delusion and hallucinations. It is a lossed cause to argue with someone like seekmosttoprophesy who doesn't even know how to spell prophecy correctly. He's hopelessly convinced so it's a meaningless battle to go back and forth with him, it's just not going to lead anywhere.
Wordlaw12 1 year ago
@Wordlaw12 You are the one who doesn't know the difference between prophesy and prophecy. It might be funny if it wasn't so sad.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
@Seekmosttoprophesy
I change my position on your intelligence you are a very smart man but it is so frustrating that even with someone of your brain capacity and honestly sit here and defend what the bible says. The bible is so contradictory it's not even funny. It just shows even the smartest of people can be brainwashed into believing in this mythology and folklore. Thats was so sad.
Wordlaw12 1 year ago
@Wordlaw12 You have to address the issues. You did not address any of the issues so you cannont make blanket statements without backing up what you say with anything. That is just slander for no good reason. The Bible is not mythical, it is very historical. It is also the only teaching that has been around from the time of Adam and Eve saying that a Savior (God) would be born of a woman. You wouldn't know that because no one ever told you.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
@Seekmosttoprophesy
Even if there was a huge global flood what happened to the dinosaurs that lived in the water. Surely, the increase in sea level couldn't have had that much impact that even they would die of off. Are you telling me that Noah even got a hold of two every species of insect, mammal, reptiles ect on that boat? Lol You are a funny guy
Wordlaw12 1 year ago
@Wordlaw12 The sea monsters (like Spinosaurus) lived long after the flood. They were still talking about them at the time of King David. That is the reason there are many teeth of them but very few bones have been found. What we see today is what remains of the world that once was.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
@Seekmosttoprophesy
Yeah Yeah who cares about that dinosaur what about the others. The T-rex, Raptors. terrydactls, why didn't Noah bring them hmm. And you guys make me sick with this "you just don't want to take responsibility with your actions" nonsense. Look, I would love for there to be a afterlife and maybe it is but it probably won't be anything like what we think it is.
Wordlaw12 1 year ago
@Wordlaw12 All of the animals could have been young. That leaves a lot of room left on the Ark and it also makes a lot more sense. You would like for there to be ane equal and opposite reaction for everything that we do??? In that case, we need a Savior to take the punishment for everything that we have done. Oh, someone thought of that already and it wans't any man. The first mention of a provision for us was spoken to Adam and Eve 6,000 years ago.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
@Seekmosttoprophesy There is no way to verify the genealogies presented in the bible. However, they are obviously false, considering we know how long people lived at that times (lots of bones to examine), and the stories of the bible state that some lived for like 200 years, which is obviously false.
You provide counter-proof to your own points time and again.
Superslemmet 1 year ago
@Superslemmet Bones are not genealogies. People only lived longer if they were born before the flood. DNA testing can show if you are directly descended from Moses' brother Aaron. Of course the genealogies are real. The genealogy from Noah to Adam is of people that you are directly descended from. Lamech and Methuselah are your many times great grandfathers.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
@Seekmosttoprophesy We will never get anywhere with this, mainly because it is common knowledge for those who havent been living under rock the the last oh, say 150 years that the bible isn't true.
It seems to me like you think what is true or not is a matter of opinion. It's not. The are fact which exists independent of our wishes and views, and we don't live in a fairyland where stuff comes to life and commands us to commit genocide.
Get an education before making statements which require such
Superslemmet 1 year ago
@Superslemmet God would never destroy innocent honest people because nobody is innocent to begin with. The truth is not a matter of what we think. It is a matter of what is and what is not and it is what our Creator/God says. You need to get an education about the world around you and how things were made as they are. It is simple observation that lets us know that the universe is by design.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
@Seekmosttoprophesy I was not referring to god destroying anyone. I was referring to him commanding a people to destroy another people. That is genocide, and excuses that "the voices in my head told me to do it" doesn't make it just in any way.
You position does not allow for logic. For the bible to be true, it must also make statements that can be false. I you deny any pointing out if its false statements, the true ones have no meaning.
You either follow reality (logic), or fantasy (faith).
Superslemmet 1 year ago
@Superslemmet The problem is that it is not up to you to define what Scripture is saying so you also cannot judge what it says. It is only because of the Bible that there is any kind of rule of law today. People throughout all time have determined that the Bible is the most reasonable and useful book there is. It is not my fault that all other books fail by comparison. You can't argue with the truth, you can't argue with the facts and you can't be making things up.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
@Seekmosttoprophesy Are you saying I can't judge the bible for what is written within? By what other criteria can I judge its message?
The bible makes lots of statements that are without a doubt false. The earth is not at the centre of the universe, it was not created in 7 days, most of it's teachings do not promote human happiness and a good life.
The main reason the western world became dominant was its ability to stop following the bible/(its holy book), same with the arab world before europe
Superslemmet 1 year ago
@Superslemmet The Bible says that the only One who can interpret God's word is the Spirit of God. You have to ask Him. The universe (the heavens and the earth) was made before life on earth was made. The apparent age of the earth is *not* the same as the age of life on earth. It is only because of learning about God that we ever became anything other than tribal. If not, people would still be sacrificing their children. Abraham did not because of his belief in Christ.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
@Seekmosttoprophesy The world is more than just the US and Europe, if you had gone to school you would know that.
Asia developed technology long before Europe, though that progress was hindered by an extreme adherence to their cultural laws and ways.
It is because we don't follow the bible that we have such prosperity. If we did, we would have to kill your own children if they insult us, and destroy our own town with everyone inside if just one follows another faith.
Superslemmet 1 year ago
@Superslemmet You are very misinformed. Have you ever heard of the grace and mercy of God? The Chinese calendar does not precede the flood and there is also a year of the dragon in it.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
@Seekmosttoprophesy Have you not heard of history class? It's both awesome, and it describes what actually happened in ancient days! It can help us figure out why the world is how is. Go figure....
Superslemmet 1 year ago
@Superslemmet I am all for history. It is evolution that contradicts historical events. It is history that has all of the information of what the world was like before the flood. It is from history that we have actual descriptions of living dinosaurs.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
@Seekmosttoprophesy I think you have some things mixed up. History is a form of science. For something to be considered history, we need corroborating evidence.
Evolution is science. Same here, you always need good evidence for your claim to be taken seriously.
The bible is neither. It is not history, since it has no corroborating evidence, and not science since it can't back any of it's claims up.
Superslemmet 1 year ago
@Superslemmet What the Bible says is backed up so much more than evolution is. Evolution has no science backing it while the Bible has observable evidence, science and history all backing what it says. We have both the historical accounts of the flood and the fossils to prove it. We also have the observable evidence of nanomachines that work to show the design of our Creator.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
@Seekmosttoprophesy As I said before, you have obviously not had any education. Try reading a proper book instead of that bible of yours. Or better jet, try reading more about the bible. No one who knows how the bible was created can believe its authenticity.
This feels like arguing about where babies come from with a proponent of the stork-theory.
And and evolution is a fact. The theory of evolution explains how that fact work.
Superslemmet 1 year ago
@Superslemmet You can't explain what doesn't ever happen in any kind of condition or circumstances. History is a fact and history says that millions of life forms were buried all over the world by the flood and we have the fossils to prove it. Evolution is just like the stork theory. It is nothing more than fantasy. It is a baseless cult teaching that people like you believe. There is not a shred of evidence for evolution.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
@Seekmosttoprophesy But as said, there are to date 20 observed occasions of new species forming. It has been observed for crying out loud.
I assume you don't work in science nor biology, so the harm you are doing is hopefully negligible.
However, if/when you have kids, I hope you allow them to explore our world and all the amazing things it holds, instead of forcing them to bow down to an imaginary beast that the world does not hold.
Superslemmet 1 year ago
@Superslemmet Variations of the same species is not really a new species. That is what explains the vast number of "new species" there are after the flood. Monkeys remain monkeys and fish remain fish. Mutations do not act on the genome that fast and mutations are corrected anyway for the sake of the viability of the species. Of course the world does not know the truth. It is evolution that is imaginary and it is also a lying beast. Only honest people know the truth.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
@Superslemmet @Superslemmet What the Bible says is backed up so much more than evolution is. Evolution has no science backing it while the Bible has observable evidence, science and history all backing what it says. We have both the historical accounts of the flood and the fossils to prove it. We also have the observable evidence of nanomachines that work to show the design of our Creator. Evolution is nothing but fantasy.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
@Seekmosttoprophesy Just a quick question. How do you explain the fact that scientists who do not follow the bible produce a huge amount of useful and verifiable results yearly, whilst those who base their science on the bible produce nothing at all?
Should that not give us a hint at what basis for reason we should use? Holy text vs empirical testing?
Superslemmet 1 year ago
@Superslemmet Easy, it's for the same reason that a scientist that based his entire world view on the Lord of The Rings would likely produce nothing of value to anyone lol
SimKoning 1 year ago
@Superslemmet People who wish they had something better to do find nothing more than a few bone fragments and they make up stories to try to get funding. That proves nothing. It is a disgrace to science. What if we have found Noah's Ark? Then what would you have to say? We are digging up ancient Israel all the time.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
@Seekmosttoprophesy Oh, and you think finding an old piece of wood on a mountain and proclaiming it to be Noah's ark is the height of science?
Come on, the bible says the world is flat. I can direct you to the quotes if you want to?
You can't seriously claim that? Or do you think the bible is literally true?
Superslemmet 1 year ago
@Superslemmet No, the Bible says the mountains were pushed up after the flood. You have bad information. Of course what the Bible says is true. It names your ancestors from Noah all the way back to Adam and Eve. I hope they do find Noah's Ark so we can get rid of the fantasy of evolution once and for all. The fossils (and Noah's Ark) are evidence of the flood.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
@Superslemmet
This guys a moron I thought for a second he was sharp but no. He is just like any other brainwashed individual who refuse to see religion for what it is. Your not going to get through to him. He said that "evolution has no science backing it up" but the bible can back up all of it's claims? Really? Don't waste your time man this dude drinks Jesus Juice every night before he goes to bed.
Wordlaw12 1 year ago
@Wordlaw12 Whoever believes in Yeshua/Jesus will not be disappointed because His word is true. I would believe Yeshua before anyone else. He is God's only begotten Son. His Holy Spirit is the only link that we have to eternal life. Listen to Him when He speaks to you. This is pure science, and it is true. Only God,s word is perfect. He can restore us to what we once were before Adam and Eve sinned when word of the provision for sin was given.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
@Seekmosttoprophesy
I take it back your not as smart as I thought you were. My friend you are so deluded it's not even funny. And if Jesus Christ wiped are slate clean for the sins commited by are Forefathers(Adam,Eve ect.) why is childbirth still painful why can't we live for centuries like they did back the? Why do men still have Adam's apples? Your a fool you bought into it and you make excuses when you know your wrong. Science over religion anyday
Wordlaw12 1 year ago
@Wordlaw12 It is up to you to show me if I am wrong in anything. Address the issues. Objects do not order any observable directives that have intent and purpose from preexisting designs. You are the one who is deluded. God made us male and female because nothing else could. You can't be both physically dead and living at the same time. You have to be one or the other. Yeshua is the One who said that we will live even if we die if we believe His true word.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
@Seekmosttoprophesy
And how do you know that there is a god,let me guess the bible. I can't stand how you clowns talk down on others like you truely know how it all began. You only get your information from a book written by sheepherders thousands of years ago. How can you speak of truth when there is no evidence of all the bullshit in the bible? Get your delusional ass out of here!!!
Wordlaw12 1 year ago
@Wordlaw12 Correction, it is a whole series of collections of records from sheepherders throughout all time of known human history. That is the very thing that makes it so significant. With every copy that was made, it became harder to change what was said. The evidence is that there really was a flood that buried all of the fossils and there really were sauropods and Spinosaurus like creatures that are described in the Bible and there is Christ too.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
This is so annoying. How can we ever have a discussion when the posts never show up or are posted later on?
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
It says "posted" but it doesn't post.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
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Dannett, Harris and Hitchens are bullshit. Dawkins is something different.
VULGAR
hykovachev 1 year ago
Chris got excited when he started thinking about getting boozed
LIVEETERNALLOVE 2 years ago
dAWKINS-THE ELF,hITCHENS -gnom,and the two hobites
georgel19841 2 years ago
Dawkins is Legolas, Sam Harris is Samwise Gamgee, Dennet is Gandalf, and Hitchens is Boromir
darkmiles22 2 years ago
Better ,even,then myself.
you had a good inspiration
they all 4, talk about fairytales
georgel19841 2 years ago
You will have my sword.
NakedCreep 2 years ago
Hahaha! :D
balkan2k 1 year ago
@darkmiles22 no Boromir is boorish and goes insane at the end, Hitchens has gotten more lucid with age, I think he'd fit better as Aragorn. He's got the same sarcastic and confident air to him.
GaiusIuliusTaberna 2 years ago
@GaiusIuliusTaberna
I kinda think that's why Boromir is perfect for Hitchens. Neither is afraid of taking positions his compatriots find detestable, and both are willing to use sarcasm when the situation allows it and can get much more riled up about a subject than Aragorn. Aragorn is supposed to be wiser than Boromir, but it always seemed to me that he was just more cautious, which is not necessarily a virtue in my book, though it worked out in his favor in Tolkien's.
darkmiles22 2 years ago
I like where they started off on this 11th video. keep the art and history of religion, cut out the bullshit. Really one needs not to believe in Santa Claus to enjoy Christmas, and indeed it is the same with all forms of cultural expression, and also art.
grimwatcher 2 years ago
@grimwatcher They don't want the history because it is the history of the flood that disproves evolution because it is the flood that explains all of the fossils we see buried around the world. When you have no reason to be in the "Christmas spirit" you are just spacing out for no reason.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
I don't think you're listening. They want the culture, the traditions, the literature, they want all those things about religious thoughts which enrich society. The Universal flood didn't happen. it is no more historically accurate than Cinderella. It is a well known fact that genesis is an amalgamation of Babylonian, and other myths of the area. Shouldn't confuse fairy tales with facts.
The story
grimwatcher 1 year ago 3
@grimwatcher The worldwide flood is the only explanation there is of everything that we see. The mountains and the oceans of today are a direct result of the flood. All of the fossils that we have seen and haven't seen are the life forms that were buried by the flood. The Bible has the genealogies of our ancestors going all the way back to Adam and Eve. The human fossils that we find are people that died in the flood. DNA testing has proven they are not directly related to any of us.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
@Seekmosttoprophesy
I guess you do believe in fairy tales.
How do you expect religion to be taken seriously when it refuses to let go of Santa Claus? I don't think you have to be an atheist to believe that evolution happened, I mean God might have set up the universe to run it's own course according to natural laws, don't get me wrong that's not what I believe, I'm an atheist, but when your religion gets int he way of accepting facts, it's just worrisome
grimwatcher 1 year ago
@grimwatcher It is your imagination, speculation, conjecture and fantasy that is of concern. There is a lot of evidence of Creation. All science supports Creation. It is not without reason that people believe in Creation. No matter how much evidence there is, you still have to believe it and there is a lot of evidence.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
@Seekmosttoprophesy
Wow, just wow! Did you even read your statement? don't you find it contradictory that you have dismissed science and claimed that it supported your opinion?
Sorry to break it up to you but evolutionary theory is on par with gravitational theory, electromagnetic theory, germ theory, etc etc. as an explanation for our world. Evolution is both fact and theory.
grimwatcher 1 year ago
@grimwatcher You have a lot of wishful thinking going on there. Evolution is a real joke. It is not even close to science because there is no basis for it. Don't hold on to it because you will go down with it. Stay as far away from it as possible because it is nothing more than a fantasy. No reptile ever became a mammal. Things do not change the basic structure of what they are. The sum total of mutations only always destroy life. That is the reason mutations are corrected. Dont be silly.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
Please provide evidence that "the sum total of mutations only always destroy life"
MrJmm999 1 year ago
@MrJmm999 In order to get one useful mutation, you have to also have had millions of harmful mutations so the one useful mutation is useless because the species has already died.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
Please provide evidence for creation? Again..scientific evidence from peer reviewed sourse.
MrJmm999 1 year ago
@MrJmm999 You are the evidence of Creation. You can't credit any object for your existence. What good is any other conclusion?
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
Please provide scientific evidence that Noah's flood explains everything that we see.
Please provide evidence that the mountains and oceans are the direct result of the flood
Please provide evidence that the geologic column provides evidence for your flood.
Please provide evidence that we have found human fossils that died because of your flood
Please provide evidence that DNA testing has proven that these fossils are not directly related to any of us.
AGAIN SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE
MrJmm999 1 year ago
@MrJmm999 If you don't know about the DNA evidence that the people that died in the flood are not directly related to us, you don't know enough to have an opinion. What I have is historical information that fits with the observable fossil evidence that we see.
Seekmosttoprophesy 1 year ago
Again, i ask you for actual evidence that there was a flood.
Please pr