You want to talk about my underwear? How pathetic . (LOL) ya I wear underwear by choice that I earned by going to the Temple of God Wear I was sealed to my wife and children like a wedding that is a marriage done to be sealed to each other along with our family FOREVER not tel death do us part. And the symbols on my underwear you pervs lol is to remind me and symbolize the covenants I made to my heavenly father wife and family.
Love the Holy ghost for I pray that I can earn to be a worthy vessel a temple to be worthy to have the Holy Ghost as a constant Companion. So I can be a worthy child of God through free agency and earn the Gifts that God wishes to bestow upon us. To use these gifts to ever grow spiritually and physically closer to our Father in Heaven to loose my self the natural man and follow the foot step of The first born son of man.
To be honest I am not a good of a person yet, in my own sight. But what I know that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day saints ( LDS) teaches will help me grow closer to our God in Heaven through his Grace through the Scriptures that they are good for they teach and express the good and the bad for us and through our Lord and Savior Jesus the Christ for I love him. I love Jesus the Christ I love God I look at God as my Father in Heaven for he is all of ours even from the beginning, O how I
Personally I am a convert, so I haven't had the pleasure of being born and raised in the church of Jesus Christ of latter day Saints but I positively one hundred percent know that most of the stuff I have seen and heard many people of all faiths and of anti books is not correct or not even spoken as even the right meaning of what they are teaching. They DO NOT Know what they are even stating or teaching other people out in the world it is a trip to come across these videos of educated or so cal
I have heard that theirs many I mean many church groups that are called different names that read the book of Mormon and share seminar beliefs but I have heard some of them if not all share different beliefs maybe that's why people just lazily say Mormons because they think possibly they know all there is needed to know about all the other church's out there that share reading in the book of Mormon.
Just like the people that use the Term Cult or Cults, they have abused this term or Perverted it is probably what Jesus would say I think. They say this or that church is a CULT. Like they want to frighten or worn people about that group of Gatherer's because that is the plane and simple original definition of the word cult. A group of gatherer's, an organization. Not a church of Satan. You might of well call college kids cult members. Baptist church members Catholic, Muslim, peace core, milita
I have been a "Mormon" for over fifty years. I have always been a Christian. I've never heard anyone in my church mention the Freemasons however my Grandfather (not a "Mormon") was a Freemason and the nicest man I've ever met. Only the weak & wicked disciples of Satan would blaspheme The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints & deny them Christianity. As with all forms of bigotry; Mormophobia is most prevalent among the uneducated as IExposedmormonism has clearly exhibited in his comments.
What we hear in this video is only the thin gloss, a veneer on an occult religion with hidden agenda's none of which are Christian. Mormonism is a branch of political Freemasonry. It share the NWO agenda of Freemasonry. A "Secret Tow Line" exists between the two at the highest political levels. Don't Vote For a Mormon, Ever. Not Reed, Romney, Udal, none of them
There are many FALSE DENOMINATIONS of Christianity for the purpose of leading you astray. Just look at their founders and their Doctrines, they were NEVER Christian Doctrines. These denominations are COUNTERFEITS of the the true Gospel of Jesus Christ:
-Joseph Smith, Freemason, founder of Mormonism
-Charles Taze Russel, Freemason, founder of Jehovah's Witness
@universomich Find something useful and virtuous to do--you aren't getting anywhere with your vitriol. There are real issues out there. Mormons are docile, service-oriented people. We aren't a threat to you.
@universomich I don't think the polygamy issue went to the supreme court.It was legislated under the idea of "Cohabitation" not polygamy. The Cullom bill, then Englebrecht Case. The Mormons controlled polygamy in Utah thru the probate courts, which the Mormons controlled. The Fed ruled against the probate courts, the end of polygamy was in sight. Still, the Hierarchy promoted and engaged in polygamy until after 1915. Joseph F Smith,"The Prophet' gave testimony in congress admitting his polygamy
@universomich Mormons live in the OT. Christians Live in the NT. Read the NT and see what you find. It's the purpose of Christians to be Christians, not to become Jews. Mormons want to be perfected into OT Jews, with all the ritual animal sacrifice in Temples, the compulsion to absurd man made laws, ones eternal condemnation being expurged through bureaucracies and rituals and payments to them. Polygamy is barbaric.
@IExposeMormonism "Mormons" are Christians; The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter Day Saints. "Mormons" a slang term outsiders call The Saints; since Mormon was a prophet, a good man, much easier to say; "Mormons" let it stick. "Mormon's live in the present. Receiving the True Gospel of Jesus Christ through a living prophet they are present day Christians of Jesus Christ. They are the Latter Day Saints of Jesus Christ; living in the CT Current Testament of Jesus Christ; his unending revelation.
@gotyourtongue "Mormon" is a word used by Mormons from the beginning. You can call it slang if you like. The Book of Mormon is a stolen plagiarized book. Their book of Abraham is anything But! It's a Book of the Dead Sen Sen Text from c300, not 1700BC. If Joe couldn't translate real Egyptian how in hell could he translate non existent "reformed Egyptian:". He failed,
@IExposeMormonism Orrin Hatch today 10/12/2011 on America's Newsroom verified my explanation of the origin of the slang term or "nick name" "Mormons" almost verbatim. This is another verification that you do not know what you are talking about and you "plagiarize" bigoted Mormophobic myths & slanderous lies you have read on anti-Mormon website and from other bigoted Mormon hater's comments. Your accusations of plagiarism and Joseph Smith's inability to translate also demonstrate your ignorance.
@gotyourtongue Look, from the 1830's Mormons used the word. I found a reference to "Mormonites" being used for a bit and then dropped. First your cult was called Church of Christ, then The Church of Jesus Christ and then "Latter Day Savages" was added. ALL in defiance of the Book Of Mormon admonishment that only "The Church of Christ" was the true name of Gods church. And Joe stuck his head in his white hat with a pet rock and "translated" "Reformed Egyptian" from a stolen book in another room.
@IExposeMormonism Do you think anyone with at least a high school education would take you seriously?No doubt your knowledge comes from anti-Mormon websites. Satan has captured your soul; there isn't much hope for you. If you were as Holier than tho as you think you are you'd be tending to your own salvation rather than doing the work of Satan; slandering the good people with different beliefs. I am curious; has a member of the Church "wronged" you in the past? Why has hate consumed your spirit?
@gotyourtongue I know exactly what I'm talking about, I have 350+ original publications on Mormonism, mostly 19thCemtury What interested me in Mormonism is The Mountain Meadows Massacre. The more I investigated the worse the story became. Despotic theocracy, Freemasonry, Jewish Kaballah, "secret tow lines" between Mormonism and Freemasonry at the highest political levels. Polygamy in Mormonism isn't what most people think of as polygamy. Does sticking your head in a hat with a rock sound divine?
@kaliemarie89 I read the Mountain Meadows Massacre and I investigated it and Mormonism. And I am rather unamused by the Lies of Joe and the crap he pulled out of his hat, his illegal polygamy revelation, absurdly impossible Abraham Papyrus, and stolen plagiarized BofM, to name a few items. I have a right to defend myself against Mormon assaults on my marriage and Christianity. God is not a polytheistic god nor is god a polygamist nor is Jesus.
and was resurrected as an angel and is just an angel as we speak. He is also, according the JWS, living here on earth invisibly. This was given to the JWS via revelation, exactly the same way Mormons claim Smith got revelations. Both can't be correct. And feeling good about it, should not be the determining factor to tell if a revelation is true or not. But again, you have probably heard all of this before and you can't be bothered with this like this. But this IS very important.
and have thanked THEIR particular group for getting them closer to God, and from saving their lives, etc.. But they all can't be the true church because they all contradict one another. And this is where theology comes in. For example, you as a Mormon, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, believe that Jesus is A god, one of many, who was married to both Mary and Martha, and was the spirit brother of Lucifer. The JWS on the other hand, believe that Jesus was Michael the Archangel, became a man...
But I can see that this is a very emotional issue for you, and whenever emotions get involved, it's all the much harder to discuss things which may not be that important to you. That is why I tried to demonstrate that your testimony, as real and emotional as it is to you, is not unique and should not be THE determining factor for truth. I have been told basically the exact same thing by JWS, Roman Catholics, Oneness Pentecostals, Moonies, etc. who had went through what you have gone through..
@kaliemarie89 I would like to start out my response to you by stating that I'm sorry for all of the tragic events that you have had to endure. I also have had things happen to me as well, as have I'm sure many others. With that stated however, you must realize, and you did hint at this in one of your comments, that Mormons do differ in belief from Ortodox Christianity. And this IS where the conversation should take place...the nature of God, the person of Christ...in other words... theology.
@kaliemarie89 I was morally offended when I read J Brooks MMMassacre. I have a right to defend myself against the Mormon threats of everyone is in "Anathema",defend myself from endowment ceremony oaths, defend myself from a polygamy revelation "nullifying all non Mormon marriages and contracts". It's Mormonism that attacks straight on all original and basic tenets of Christianity, including Mormon polytheism. Christians have a right to defend their beliefs from Mormon assaults on Christianity.
@IExposeMormonism "kaliemarie89" just closed her account on July 12 at 7:15AM +/-. It's 7:21 now. Come back, kalie, come on, get a new name and come back here.
Well, when it comes to establishing what is true, it proves, as I stated before absolutely bupkis, nothing. Your's is just one opinion among millions. The JWS can state, and they do, the exact same thing you stated concerning their testimony, and it proves nothing. "I do not owe you nor any other hater anything!" How about yourself? Oh well. I guess you will be happy as one of the many wives that are sealed to a worthy Mormon male, helping to pro-create sprit children for your own planet.
@kaliemarie89 "My testimony and love of Christ is my only reason for living and I do not owe you nor any other hater anything!" Well that's nice. However, your testimony really means bupkis because the testimony I shared with you was given by a woman who had recited the Shahada, a Muslim testimony that simply states, "La ilaha il Allah, Muhammad-ur-Rasool-Allah." Translated this phrase says, "There is no god but Allah and Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah." What does this prove?
@kaliemarie89 You're funny! Not ha-ha funny, but, you know,"funny". Keep in mind it was J Smith who declared all non Mormon worship "Anathema". It was his polygamy revelation that threatens wives with death for non compliance, defines "innocent blood" and "Nullifies all Non Mormon marriages and contracts". D&D132 is fully intact, un-redacted and ready, viral like, to express itself. Can't say that of the BofM! Then we have the shameful "Abraham papyrus". Any study exposes it for the fraud it is.
@kaliemarie89 "My testimony is real!" How's this for a testimony: "Until the very second that I made my declaration, I wasn't entirely convinced that it was what I wanted to do. Would I wake up one day and want to change my mind? Would I feel like I had made a huge mistake? But already I feel as if my life has been transformed. I don't know how to describe it, but the moment I said those words, my heart filled with joy and love and it took about 4 days for me to come back down off the ceiling."
@kaliemarie89 Not as lame a the lies of LDS. How are "Adam God Doctrine", becoming gods, Mormon god was a man and became a god, polygamous gods, polygamous Jesus, the Mormon polygamy revelation "nullifying all non Mormon marriages and contracts"/defining innocent blood" and defining "innocent blood" Lies? Is the Mountain Meadows Massacre and all 60 Perps in it were under the Endowment Ceremony and its compulsive oaths, a lie? I've told the lies of Mormonism but I haven't lied about Mormonism
All religions do illegal things and all religions are powerful. Personally, they are more dangerous and destructive any weapon we posses, why because it's religion that allows them to use those WMD's and others. Mormons are the old school scientologists. I respect no religion, because I respect humans to much to allow their foolish beliefs to ruin it for the rest of us. TYT the liberal equivalent to Glen Beck.
@Sk8er408 You have to be religious to be a bigot, Glen Beck is a hack who couldn't complete college because they actually have standards unlike christianity and islam
How would they like it if someone publicly ridiculed and mocked the belief they hold sacred? I wonder if they think Christ is happy about what they do.
Doesn't Pastor Reed receive money for preaching? Now thats Kooky!
Give me a church where the pastor doesn't receive money for preaching God's word and I'll join. Oh Wait!!!! The Mormon pastors don't receive money for preaching. They actually have real jobs and shepherd without pay to be of service to the Lord. Why would they do this? Maybe its because they know more than half truths posted here by the uninspired.
Reed, Beck, Udall, Romney, Hatch are Mormons and they have a hidden agenda and it doesn't include you. If you think things have changed when the Hierarchy dropped the extraordinary violent oaths because some sissy milk Mormons whined about
"avenging the death of the prophets on this people and nation..' (no not Jesus and John, it's Joe and Hyrum!) or promising to have their throats slit and guts ripped out, well, your wrong. Nothing has changed with Mormonism. And it's Polygamous at its heart
@Sk8er408 It's not Christian, that's why. And it also explains why Doctrine and Covenants 132 has never been altered. Unlike the 4000 changes in the BofM, the numerous changes in D&C and the denial of Adam God as taught be Joseph Smith.
@Sk8er408 No, everything is not eternal. Thus Jesus nullifies the Jews teachings. Smashes the money changers business .Calls the rulers a den of vipers. No more circumcision. Paul calls the Jews the cult of the circumcision. No more weird dietary laws. We Christians are not to become perfected Jews but rather Christians.
Juses did not nullify the teachings of the Jews... not one jot or tittle. The moncy changers was not a teaching but a custom... and not one from God... you are blurring the line and are not doing a good job of it.
Not sure why you think it is a jew vs. christian thing... they are the same.
@Sk8er408 You are so far off base one knows not where to begin. So, you believe Christians are to be really good Jews. Sad. And no Christian will agree with you. Why do you worship on Sunday?
You misunderstanding of simple truths are astounding. I never said christians are to be good jews... only that there is no reason to draw a line and divide the two... Or did you miss that part of the teachings in the NT? Who said i worship on Sunday?
@Sk8er408 Oh, you go to church on a different day than other Mormons? Many of Jesus' actions, like walking in the corn field, whipping the money changers, etc show Jews are in error. That's why they murdered him. That;s why the temple fell. He condemns the Pharisee and Sadducee Even Josephus says the Jews Earned their destruction.. With cause.
@minimanomus Not The word of God is Bullshit, Mormon is Bull shit, because they said that Joseph smith was the one that saw jesus chirst. They got no evidences. Christian isn't bull shit, because I know the word of god from the bible is True. The bible is the key to everything and life. Bro God can change your life. You just gotta believe and have some faith. ;)
@davethedrummer1 You are incorrect. We use the King James version of the Bible -- the same version that many other Churches use and we have no special edits in the text. We do have indexes, footnotes and Bible Dictionaries and so on that may be different, but the text of the Bible is the same as yours.
@ImLDSRU2 it accomplishes the same task, does it not? But I have read that part before. I don't remember the exact text, but it goes on to say something about how Joseph Smith is a prophet and without accepting his teachings one cannot get into Heaven. And what makes these websites so "idiotic"? It's just healthy religious debate :)
@ImLDSRU2 whoops i thought my message sent, but it didn't. But what difference does it make? Anyway, I have read the passage before, and it says something about Joseph Smith being a prophet and that one must accept him to enter into salvation. And what makes these websites so idiotic?
@davethedrummer1 So, if you haven't really read it, its not really fair to be critical of it. Suppose I told you that Jesus told the Apostles in His day that if people rejected the Apostles, they would be damned? Would you believe it? And if it were true, how would that change your view of this whole problem?
@ImLDSRU2 Hmmm that's a good question. I think I would believe it because Jesus is the Son of God and what he says goes. But I have trouble believing these men would actually be given such power so to say, considering they are so sinful and imperfect unlike Jesus. If it were true however, then I think it would make me think hard about why it is He said this.
@ImLDSRU2Thoughtfulness, eh? You seem to be getting rather annoyed. Anyway, all these are very good passages about the subject matter, but one of them especially stands out to me. Luke 10:16 states: "He who listens to you listens to me; he who rejects you rejects me; but he who rejects me rejects Him who sent me." Notice that the focus is not on rejecting the Disciples, it's rejecting God. It's the IDEAS the people are rejecting, not the Disciples. John 3:16 tells us it it's about Jesus
@ImLDSRU2 My bad, I read it as thoughtlessness haha. And no, it's not about rejecting the Apostles, like I already said it's about rejecting their ideas. Once again, John 3:16 clearly states, "For God so loved the world that He gave his only son our God, that whoever beleives in HIM shall not perish, but have eternal life." Never in there does ir directly say anything about having to accpet the Apostles. It only statese in other verses that one must accpet them due to the ideas they spread.
@davethedrummer1 Yes. It is about rejecting the Apostles. Jesus sends them out to preach. Then he says... "If people reject you, that is the same as rejecting me".
Look, if you don't want to be honest in this discussion, I am not interested in continuing it.
@ImLDSRU2 How am I not being honest? I'm just offering my interpretation of what the Bible is saying. See, in my opinion, it's important to note than Jesus says "that is the same as rejecting me" rather than saying something like, "If people reject you, then they shall not have salvation." But fine, let's discuss something else. Joseph Smith fails the test of being a Prophet that is outlined in Deuteronomy 18:21-22.
@davethedrummer1 You are not being honest because you are ignoring the plain and obvious reading of the text.
If you want to chat with someone about how you can twist and turn the scriptures around to mean whatever you feel like you want them to mean, or if you want to weasel word and do all kinds or curliecue interpretation - I'm not your huckleberry. That you see some big huge difference in intent between A=B=C and A=C, I am not your huckleberry.
@davethedrummer1 If you apply a test to Joseph Smith, and reject him based upon that test, but you refuse to conduct the test in EXACTLY the same way and by EXACTLY the same standards on Moses and Jesus (because doing so would also have them fail the test) YOU ARE A HYPOCRITE.
@ImLDSRU2 How would they fail the test (I have applied the test to them, but nice try)? You can't apply everything Jesus says so literally. The whole "when He will come again" stuff can be interpreted as meaning when people die He comes to those people individually, or any number of things.
@ImLDSRU2 In the eyes of anyone who has a brain can see that a temple was not built in Independence, Missouri. I do suppose the prediction of the Civil War spreading to all nations can be taking figuratively, but I don't see how the temple can be. But I think I'm done here. You have your opinions and I have mine.
@davethedrummer1 In the eyes of anyone who has a brain can see that all of the buildings of the Temple complex were not destroyed so that "not one stone was was left upon another", The "Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven" did not happen while the High Priest was alive, no one has said to a mountain "be thou removed" and it flung itself into the sea and on and on and on... You are a hypocrite.
@ImLDSRU2 And how about when Jesus told his disciples what the signs of his second coming would be (sun being darkened, moon not giving light, stars falling from heaven, etc.) then stated, "Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled."
@JediMormon And many people have indeed taken it just that way. Those people who non-Christian who believe that Jesus is a false prophet are less hypocritical than the so called "Christians" who apply one standard to Joseph Smith to call him a false prophet and then completely give Jesus a pass when He fails the same test.
@davethedrummer1 , "verily, I say unto you, that when I give a commandment to any of the sons of men to do a work unto my name, and those sons of men go with all their might and with all they have to perform that work, and cease not their diligence, and their enemies come upon them and hinder them from performing that work, behold, it behooveth me to require that work no more at the hands of those sons of men, but to accept of their offerings."
@davethedrummer1 You bibliolatrous hypocrites are a nuisance to God. You get in the way of His Good Work. It was exactly this kind of legalistic hide-bound, "Oh teacher let's see what the Law says about this" kind of crap you are pulling now that Jesus condemned in the Pharisees.
@ImLDSRU2 You know nothing about me, so calling me a hypocrite like the Pharisees is completely unfair. I am only quoting all these passages and proving all the falsities of the LDS Church because I want you to see it like I see it; I'm not self-righteous like the Pharisees. So what problem do you see with me trying to argue my beliefs with you?
@davethedrummer1 Good grief. You are a hypocrite! You are exactly like these scribes and pharisees in the Bible. "Oh teacher.. let me show you how in the law you are all wet".
I have seen these idiotic, ridiculous shallow, childish hypocritical, idolatrous arguments hundreds of times. You are not original. You crib these things off the internet and can't do original thinking.
@davethedrummer1 I missed your question about what problem is there with you trying to argue your beliefs.
The problem is that you are not doing that. What you are doing is running down my beliefs. And you are being hypocritical when you do it -- you don't apply the same standards to your beliefs that you apply to mine.
@davethedrummer1 ... " For in the resurrection they neither marry (the groom), nor are given in marriage (the bride),..." (explanations added). According to this verse, there will be no marriages performed in heaven. Nowhere does it say that there won't be married couples in heaven.
Hey we are here for you . Whatever is holding you back from joining The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints talk with a member or some missionaries and they'll be able to help you . That is the reason you are here . Just hope one day you can have the joy only the members of the Lord Jesus Christ's true Church can receive , members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints . We have something you are jealous of but it doens't have to be that way .
@mollymu1 - For those interested in becoming Christians instead, find a good local church that represents everything the gospel of the Bible teaches. Don't fall for any of the false gospels out there as they are accursed and not part of Christ's church. John 14:6 and Isaiah 43:10 say it all...
Go to a mormon church and attend , they'll help you throughout the tough times , including paying your rent.until you get on your feet. As far as the Catholic church. the priest is more likely to sniff your sons underwear. Pretty sorry church.
What happened with your Christ being the judge? Christians are such hypocrits sometimes, teaching forgiveness, love and happiness, yet it seems they're all so bitter and angry, damning everyone to hell from Gays to Mormons... I've never understood why the profession of God and Love, from people so cold, bitter and closed.
Or perhaps I need to repent too, and start hating on other people and religions.
@MrCanadianGeek i'm a Mormon too and I believe you are right... I just finished over a fight for someone who is an anti- Mormon why would they do that? really? they shouldn't treat us that way cause they will also be treated that way
IF you are looking into the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints be sure to ask a active member not a non member or someone who is having problems at this time in their lives . If you want to know about the Baptist Church go to their site . If you want to learn about us ask us. And ask yourself about the fruit you see from us.
The idiots at TYT don't have the ability to learn. They just spew their stoopid rhetoric to their minions with sub-human intellect. The pastor in question is absolutely correct about all of his statements. The mormon faith is kooky from every perspective, but dopes like TYT don't have a religious position to claim any research. It didn't sound like hate, it sounded like the facts. Don't shoot the messenger just because you don't like what they're saying. Mormons are ignorant and in need...
@cr500blur The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints contains the fullness of the gospel. This is evident in so many ways. Where does the authority come from to be born again, or to be baptized? Jesus Christ held that priesthood authority, and it was lost.(Amos 8:11)If something is lost a restoration is needed. The priesthood authority of God was restored through Joseph Smith, and the Book of Mormon is evidence of this. I am willing to bet that you haven't read it, have you? (2 Cor. 13:1)
@vontelo - Sorry bud, you have been fooled. The full gospel came from Jesus and was never lost. He said 'it is finished' on the cross, and God does not change His mind. If you choose to believe another gospel, you are accursed. You'll have to re-read the Bible if you have one still. Otherwise, you're barking up the wrong tree. I have the Bible...why would I read a false gospel? Get your facts together before bashing Christian beliefs...
@cr500blur I love how you keep relying on ad hominem attacks! I mean really? Is that the Christian way? An honest seeker of truth will find it. You still didn't answer my question about authority. Where does it come from and who holds it today? Also, I love how you have so much to say about "the Mormons" yet you haven't even read the Book of Mormon.
@vontelo - Looks like you also need to get a dictionary as well. How do you tie this in as an Ad Hominem attack. I already know that the common mormon answer to everything is that they are being attacked, but how did you make that stretch? In case you're having trouble understanding today, and I suspect also on previous days, knowledge has been gained over the last 25 years. I'm sorry if that isn't long enough for you. Jesus holds the power sport, try doing some research, instead of this...
@cr500blur Ok, bottom line is that this movie is posted about some pastor getting after Harry Reid for his beliefs in Jesus Christ. If Harry Reid, you, or I want to believe a certain way that is fine, but to come on here and start criticizing others for their beliefs is wrong. It is not very Christian in my opinion. Your ad hominem attacks are evident with your name calling. "idiots" "stoopid" "kooky" "ignorant". Ad hominem defined: appealing to feelings or prejudices rather than intellect.
@vontelo - Well, then you'll have to go back and re-read what I said, and take your time. The words 'idiots' and 'stoopid' were used in regards to TYT, a very liberal, partisan site who make fun of Republicans. 'Kooky' was used as a description of the mormon organization and it's history, which is kooky, and not toward any individual. Ignorant was used as it is the best description of what mormons, in general, do...that is to disregard or ignore the gospel of Jesus in the Bible. Feel better?
@ImLDSRU2 - Uhhh no, I said mormons were ignorant when they ignored the gospel of the Bible, I'd say that you are probably ignorant of your own organization's history and beliefs. As for me I have had contact with mormon research for over 25 years, but it only took about 3 months to find out all of the scary beliefs. Ignorant would not be a description of my background. Nice try though, knowing nothing of me...
@cr500blur OK... so WHEN the Mormons ignore the Gospel of Jesus Christ, they are ignorant? How would you know this? When did you conduct a study of how knowledgeable Mormons who were ignoring the Gospel of Jesus Christ were at the time that they were ignoring it, vs the times that they were not ignoring it? What were your standards of "Ignore" vs "pay attention to". And what were your standards for "ignorance"?
@ImLDSRU2 - Hmmmm.....I don't know. Why don't you do a study on how to define the apostles warning of following another gospel other than that one in the Bible? What does it mean to be accursed? While you're at it, why don't you go about defining what all of the Bible really means or what God really mean't. Then..... when you climb down from your stoopid golden pedestal of arrogance, may be you can lease some more brain cells to put to use. Yuh think? Or not? Or are you just ignorant?
@ImLDSRU2 - See, now, again, in all your lack of wisdom, you start spouting off about all these stoopid questions, completely ignoring Biblical scripture. Galatians 18-9 speaks plainly about it. Hop off your golden pedestal...you aren't even remotely in the position to be acting arrogant toward me. You can't even get the easy ones correct...
@cr500blur See, now, again, in all your lack of wisdom you start spouting off about your bibliolatry completely ignoring the truth. Even in the Bible that you worship, it says in Galatians 1:8-9 that you should not go after other Gospels .... but there you are... worshiping the Bible as though it were perfect. It speaks plainly about htis. Hop off your goldem pedestal. you aren't even remotely in a position to be acting arrogant toward me... since you are worshipping idols.
@ImLDSRU2 - If you are referring to the Bible as an idol, you are even dumber than I thought. I'll take the true gosple and eternal life, and you can take the false gospel and eternal death in hell. Good luck with that plan...
@ImLDSRU2 - Well, that's what you get folks when you are a member of a cult. They think that God's word is an idol. Seeeee.......that's why they're not Christians. That's why they are not wanted in their neighborhoods. I just wish they we would all go back to Salt Lake. Too funny how they think they would ever be in the position to call people names. Pot - kettle - black ......
@ImLDSRU2 - well, let me help you with your delusion. The Bible is the Word of God, and isn't affected by my belief. The Word was with God, and the Word was God. The Bible is our connection to the creator of the universe. You have your connection and Christians have theirs. You Smithians have a MUCH bigger problem to solve, and the Bible is not an idol........ever.
@ImLDSRU2 - Not quite a biblio whatever...but you are definitely a cult member. Come out from the blasphemous cult you appear to be associated with. Hell is eternal...
@ImLDSRU2 - I idolize Christ and His word. You will be judged on your belief in a false gospel. My savior relies on my desire to follow His word. Isaiah 43:10 speaks of my God and reminds you of your mistake. Remember, we are all God's creation and we will all be judged....mine by His Bible and gospel, yours by your cult's teachings and beliefs. Repent and come out of your cult...
@ImLDSRU2 - How am I the disturbed one you simpleton...The Bible, the Christ, and the Father are all one team. You are the only one believing in something outside of that circle. Give it a rest, you are obviously deranged.
@ImLDSRU2 - Annnnd you should show a little more respect and follow His gospel. Stop with your anti-christ assessment...it hardly fits and his very disrespectful...
@cr500blur I always like to have luck... but I do not need it. And for those who need it.. it will be insufficient.
In either case, luck is irrelevant for you. It is not a matter of luck, but rather a decision you need to make to come out of babylon. If you don't want to, then fine.. don't come. But do not err in fighting against zion.
At the very least follow the advice of the wise Gamaliel.
@ImLDSRU2 - Yes, you will need luck...For anyone else, these scriptures are evidence of why mormons are not considered Christian. They believe in many gods.
Gal 1:9 - ...if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
Isaiah 43:10 - ...before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
II Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God...
God doesn't change His mind or make mistakes...His gospel stands thru the ages...
Isnt that kooky?
moon1593 1 month ago in playlist More videos from TheYoungTurks
You want to talk about my underwear? How pathetic . (LOL) ya I wear underwear by choice that I earned by going to the Temple of God Wear I was sealed to my wife and children like a wedding that is a marriage done to be sealed to each other along with our family FOREVER not tel death do us part. And the symbols on my underwear you pervs lol is to remind me and symbolize the covenants I made to my heavenly father wife and family.
raysday4321 2 months ago
Just ask me! I will expose my self. Get some
\m/-.-\m/. ~ means Love. Ya know the sign language. Not the sign of Satan. Lol
raysday4321 2 months ago
Love the Holy ghost for I pray that I can earn to be a worthy vessel a temple to be worthy to have the Holy Ghost as a constant Companion. So I can be a worthy child of God through free agency and earn the Gifts that God wishes to bestow upon us. To use these gifts to ever grow spiritually and physically closer to our Father in Heaven to loose my self the natural man and follow the foot step of The first born son of man.
raysday4321 2 months ago
To be honest I am not a good of a person yet, in my own sight. But what I know that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter day saints ( LDS) teaches will help me grow closer to our God in Heaven through his Grace through the Scriptures that they are good for they teach and express the good and the bad for us and through our Lord and Savior Jesus the Christ for I love him. I love Jesus the Christ I love God I look at God as my Father in Heaven for he is all of ours even from the beginning, O how I
raysday4321 2 months ago
Personally I am a convert, so I haven't had the pleasure of being born and raised in the church of Jesus Christ of latter day Saints but I positively one hundred percent know that most of the stuff I have seen and heard many people of all faiths and of anti books is not correct or not even spoken as even the right meaning of what they are teaching. They DO NOT Know what they are even stating or teaching other people out in the world it is a trip to come across these videos of educated or so cal
raysday4321 2 months ago
I have heard that theirs many I mean many church groups that are called different names that read the book of Mormon and share seminar beliefs but I have heard some of them if not all share different beliefs maybe that's why people just lazily say Mormons because they think possibly they know all there is needed to know about all the other church's out there that share reading in the book of Mormon.
raysday4321 2 months ago
Just like the people that use the Term Cult or Cults, they have abused this term or Perverted it is probably what Jesus would say I think. They say this or that church is a CULT. Like they want to frighten or worn people about that group of Gatherer's because that is the plane and simple original definition of the word cult. A group of gatherer's, an organization. Not a church of Satan. You might of well call college kids cult members. Baptist church members Catholic, Muslim, peace core, milita
raysday4321 2 months ago
I don't know Mormonism but I know the church of Jesus Christ of latter-day Saints.
The Term or made up name that Out siders call any church that reads the book of Mormon are called by the none understanding, Mormons or Mormonism.
raysday4321 2 months ago
Pentecostal clap trap !
TheUktruth 4 months ago
Mormon church was started by a man who Slamed christianity in his first vision .
jayhawk88z 5 months ago
I have been a "Mormon" for over fifty years. I have always been a Christian. I've never heard anyone in my church mention the Freemasons however my Grandfather (not a "Mormon") was a Freemason and the nicest man I've ever met. Only the weak & wicked disciples of Satan would blaspheme The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints & deny them Christianity. As with all forms of bigotry; Mormophobia is most prevalent among the uneducated as IExposedmormonism has clearly exhibited in his comments.
gotyourtongue 5 months ago
What we hear in this video is only the thin gloss, a veneer on an occult religion with hidden agenda's none of which are Christian. Mormonism is a branch of political Freemasonry. It share the NWO agenda of Freemasonry. A "Secret Tow Line" exists between the two at the highest political levels. Don't Vote For a Mormon, Ever. Not Reed, Romney, Udal, none of them
IExposeMormonism 5 months ago
Oh this is a Young Turks video ... never mind.
andhehorseurodeinon 5 months ago
There are many FALSE DENOMINATIONS of Christianity for the purpose of leading you astray. Just look at their founders and their Doctrines, they were NEVER Christian Doctrines. These denominations are COUNTERFEITS of the the true Gospel of Jesus Christ:
-Joseph Smith, Freemason, founder of Mormonism
-Charles Taze Russel, Freemason, founder of Jehovah's Witness
-Emperor Constantine, founder of Catholicism
-Vatican, satanic, SECRET founder of Islam
-Madame Blavatsky, Luciferian, New Age Movement
selious04 5 months ago
She needs to "slam" herself for even preaching in the church.
Modelmaterial7 7 months ago
Probably the only time I will agree with the Young Turks.
blandinthebasement 7 months ago
@universomich Find something useful and virtuous to do--you aren't getting anywhere with your vitriol. There are real issues out there. Mormons are docile, service-oriented people. We aren't a threat to you.
blandinthebasement 7 months ago
@blandinthebasement I think you are talking to the wrong person. The evil hearted person here is the one that universomich was addressing.
ImLDSRU2 7 months ago
@universomich I don't think the polygamy issue went to the supreme court.It was legislated under the idea of "Cohabitation" not polygamy. The Cullom bill, then Englebrecht Case. The Mormons controlled polygamy in Utah thru the probate courts, which the Mormons controlled. The Fed ruled against the probate courts, the end of polygamy was in sight. Still, the Hierarchy promoted and engaged in polygamy until after 1915. Joseph F Smith,"The Prophet' gave testimony in congress admitting his polygamy
IExposeMormonism 7 months ago
@universomich Mormons live in the OT. Christians Live in the NT. Read the NT and see what you find. It's the purpose of Christians to be Christians, not to become Jews. Mormons want to be perfected into OT Jews, with all the ritual animal sacrifice in Temples, the compulsion to absurd man made laws, ones eternal condemnation being expurged through bureaucracies and rituals and payments to them. Polygamy is barbaric.
IExposeMormonism 7 months ago
@IExposeMormonism "Mormons" are Christians; The Church of JESUS CHRIST of Latter Day Saints. "Mormons" a slang term outsiders call The Saints; since Mormon was a prophet, a good man, much easier to say; "Mormons" let it stick. "Mormon's live in the present. Receiving the True Gospel of Jesus Christ through a living prophet they are present day Christians of Jesus Christ. They are the Latter Day Saints of Jesus Christ; living in the CT Current Testament of Jesus Christ; his unending revelation.
gotyourtongue 5 months ago
@gotyourtongue "Mormon" is a word used by Mormons from the beginning. You can call it slang if you like. The Book of Mormon is a stolen plagiarized book. Their book of Abraham is anything But! It's a Book of the Dead Sen Sen Text from c300, not 1700BC. If Joe couldn't translate real Egyptian how in hell could he translate non existent "reformed Egyptian:". He failed,
IExposeMormonism 5 months ago
@IExposeMormonism Orrin Hatch today 10/12/2011 on America's Newsroom verified my explanation of the origin of the slang term or "nick name" "Mormons" almost verbatim. This is another verification that you do not know what you are talking about and you "plagiarize" bigoted Mormophobic myths & slanderous lies you have read on anti-Mormon website and from other bigoted Mormon hater's comments. Your accusations of plagiarism and Joseph Smith's inability to translate also demonstrate your ignorance.
gotyourtongue 5 months ago
@gotyourtongue Look, from the 1830's Mormons used the word. I found a reference to "Mormonites" being used for a bit and then dropped. First your cult was called Church of Christ, then The Church of Jesus Christ and then "Latter Day Savages" was added. ALL in defiance of the Book Of Mormon admonishment that only "The Church of Christ" was the true name of Gods church. And Joe stuck his head in his white hat with a pet rock and "translated" "Reformed Egyptian" from a stolen book in another room.
IExposeMormonism 5 months ago
@IExposeMormonism Do you think anyone with at least a high school education would take you seriously?No doubt your knowledge comes from anti-Mormon websites. Satan has captured your soul; there isn't much hope for you. If you were as Holier than tho as you think you are you'd be tending to your own salvation rather than doing the work of Satan; slandering the good people with different beliefs. I am curious; has a member of the Church "wronged" you in the past? Why has hate consumed your spirit?
gotyourtongue 5 months ago
@gotyourtongue I know exactly what I'm talking about, I have 350+ original publications on Mormonism, mostly 19thCemtury What interested me in Mormonism is The Mountain Meadows Massacre. The more I investigated the worse the story became. Despotic theocracy, Freemasonry, Jewish Kaballah, "secret tow lines" between Mormonism and Freemasonry at the highest political levels. Polygamy in Mormonism isn't what most people think of as polygamy. Does sticking your head in a hat with a rock sound divine?
IExposeMormonism 5 months ago
man i dont know why people want to watcha mall call it expose mormons when we didnt do anything wrong to the people what is this world coming to.....
vanilla0307 7 months ago
@kaliemarie89 I read the Mountain Meadows Massacre and I investigated it and Mormonism. And I am rather unamused by the Lies of Joe and the crap he pulled out of his hat, his illegal polygamy revelation, absurdly impossible Abraham Papyrus, and stolen plagiarized BofM, to name a few items. I have a right to defend myself against Mormon assaults on my marriage and Christianity. God is not a polytheistic god nor is god a polygamist nor is Jesus.
IExposeMormonism 7 months ago
and was resurrected as an angel and is just an angel as we speak. He is also, according the JWS, living here on earth invisibly. This was given to the JWS via revelation, exactly the same way Mormons claim Smith got revelations. Both can't be correct. And feeling good about it, should not be the determining factor to tell if a revelation is true or not. But again, you have probably heard all of this before and you can't be bothered with this like this. But this IS very important.
TheJpgr1958 8 months ago
and have thanked THEIR particular group for getting them closer to God, and from saving their lives, etc.. But they all can't be the true church because they all contradict one another. And this is where theology comes in. For example, you as a Mormon, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, believe that Jesus is A god, one of many, who was married to both Mary and Martha, and was the spirit brother of Lucifer. The JWS on the other hand, believe that Jesus was Michael the Archangel, became a man...
TheJpgr1958 8 months ago
But I can see that this is a very emotional issue for you, and whenever emotions get involved, it's all the much harder to discuss things which may not be that important to you. That is why I tried to demonstrate that your testimony, as real and emotional as it is to you, is not unique and should not be THE determining factor for truth. I have been told basically the exact same thing by JWS, Roman Catholics, Oneness Pentecostals, Moonies, etc. who had went through what you have gone through..
TheJpgr1958 8 months ago
@kaliemarie89 I would like to start out my response to you by stating that I'm sorry for all of the tragic events that you have had to endure. I also have had things happen to me as well, as have I'm sure many others. With that stated however, you must realize, and you did hint at this in one of your comments, that Mormons do differ in belief from Ortodox Christianity. And this IS where the conversation should take place...the nature of God, the person of Christ...in other words... theology.
TheJpgr1958 8 months ago
@kaliemarie89 I was morally offended when I read J Brooks MMMassacre. I have a right to defend myself against the Mormon threats of everyone is in "Anathema",defend myself from endowment ceremony oaths, defend myself from a polygamy revelation "nullifying all non Mormon marriages and contracts". It's Mormonism that attacks straight on all original and basic tenets of Christianity, including Mormon polytheism. Christians have a right to defend their beliefs from Mormon assaults on Christianity.
IExposeMormonism 8 months ago
@IExposeMormonism "kaliemarie89" just closed her account on July 12 at 7:15AM +/-. It's 7:21 now. Come back, kalie, come on, get a new name and come back here.
IExposeMormonism 8 months ago
Oh I almost forgot....buh bye!!!
TheJpgr1958 8 months ago
Well, when it comes to establishing what is true, it proves, as I stated before absolutely bupkis, nothing. Your's is just one opinion among millions. The JWS can state, and they do, the exact same thing you stated concerning their testimony, and it proves nothing. "I do not owe you nor any other hater anything!" How about yourself? Oh well. I guess you will be happy as one of the many wives that are sealed to a worthy Mormon male, helping to pro-create sprit children for your own planet.
TheJpgr1958 8 months ago
@kaliemarie89 "My testimony and love of Christ is my only reason for living and I do not owe you nor any other hater anything!" Well that's nice. However, your testimony really means bupkis because the testimony I shared with you was given by a woman who had recited the Shahada, a Muslim testimony that simply states, "La ilaha il Allah, Muhammad-ur-Rasool-Allah." Translated this phrase says, "There is no god but Allah and Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah." What does this prove?
TheJpgr1958 8 months ago
@kaliemarie89 You're funny! Not ha-ha funny, but, you know,"funny". Keep in mind it was J Smith who declared all non Mormon worship "Anathema". It was his polygamy revelation that threatens wives with death for non compliance, defines "innocent blood" and "Nullifies all Non Mormon marriages and contracts". D&D132 is fully intact, un-redacted and ready, viral like, to express itself. Can't say that of the BofM! Then we have the shameful "Abraham papyrus". Any study exposes it for the fraud it is.
IExposeMormonism 8 months ago
@kaliemarie89 What do you think? Pretty awesome.
TheJpgr1958 8 months ago
@kaliemarie89 "My testimony is real!" How's this for a testimony: "Until the very second that I made my declaration, I wasn't entirely convinced that it was what I wanted to do. Would I wake up one day and want to change my mind? Would I feel like I had made a huge mistake? But already I feel as if my life has been transformed. I don't know how to describe it, but the moment I said those words, my heart filled with joy and love and it took about 4 days for me to come back down off the ceiling."
TheJpgr1958 8 months ago
@kaliemarie89 Not as lame a the lies of LDS. How are "Adam God Doctrine", becoming gods, Mormon god was a man and became a god, polygamous gods, polygamous Jesus, the Mormon polygamy revelation "nullifying all non Mormon marriages and contracts"/defining innocent blood" and defining "innocent blood" Lies? Is the Mountain Meadows Massacre and all 60 Perps in it were under the Endowment Ceremony and its compulsive oaths, a lie? I've told the lies of Mormonism but I haven't lied about Mormonism
IExposeMormonism 8 months ago
@kaliemarie89 Do you realize you are responding to a comment that is 2 months old?
ImLDSRU2 8 months ago
@kaliemarie89 Pray for someone as you call them a vile henious douchbag...that's funny.
atheistphilosopher 8 months ago
All religions do illegal things and all religions are powerful. Personally, they are more dangerous and destructive any weapon we posses, why because it's religion that allows them to use those WMD's and others. Mormons are the old school scientologists. I respect no religion, because I respect humans to much to allow their foolish beliefs to ruin it for the rest of us. TYT the liberal equivalent to Glen Beck.
laxguy22655 8 months ago
@laxguy22655
What are these "illegal things?"
More dangerous eh? Are you a bigot?
Scientologist? You really dont know much...
Not really... Glenn Beck has a real tv show and radio program.
Sk8er408 8 months ago
@Sk8er408 You have to be religious to be a bigot, Glen Beck is a hack who couldn't complete college because they actually have standards unlike christianity and islam
laxguy22655 8 months ago
@laxguy22655
No you don't. But you would have to go to college to understand that...
Standards? You dont hold his so you has none?
Sk8er408 8 months ago
How would they like it if someone publicly ridiculed and mocked the belief they hold sacred? I wonder if they think Christ is happy about what they do.
LDStothecore 8 months ago
Doesn't Pastor Reed receive money for preaching? Now thats Kooky!
Give me a church where the pastor doesn't receive money for preaching God's word and I'll join. Oh Wait!!!! The Mormon pastors don't receive money for preaching. They actually have real jobs and shepherd without pay to be of service to the Lord. Why would they do this? Maybe its because they know more than half truths posted here by the uninspired.
MustangWriter 8 months ago
Reed, Beck, Udall, Romney, Hatch are Mormons and they have a hidden agenda and it doesn't include you. If you think things have changed when the Hierarchy dropped the extraordinary violent oaths because some sissy milk Mormons whined about
"avenging the death of the prophets on this people and nation..' (no not Jesus and John, it's Joe and Hyrum!) or promising to have their throats slit and guts ripped out, well, your wrong. Nothing has changed with Mormonism. And it's Polygamous at its heart
IExposeMormonism 9 months ago
@IExposeMormonism
So what if they are polygamous at heart? Why would that be a bad thing?
Sk8er408 9 months ago
@Sk8er408 It's not Christian, that's why. And it also explains why Doctrine and Covenants 132 has never been altered. Unlike the 4000 changes in the BofM, the numerous changes in D&C and the denial of Adam God as taught be Joseph Smith.
IExposeMormonism 9 months ago
@IExposeMormonism
Says you?
Everything is eternal. Weather we accept it or not. There will be a restitution of all things. I guess you deny that part huh?
Sk8er408 8 months ago
@Sk8er408 No, everything is not eternal. Thus Jesus nullifies the Jews teachings. Smashes the money changers business .Calls the rulers a den of vipers. No more circumcision. Paul calls the Jews the cult of the circumcision. No more weird dietary laws. We Christians are not to become perfected Jews but rather Christians.
IExposeMormonism 8 months ago
@IExposeMormonism
Juses did not nullify the teachings of the Jews... not one jot or tittle. The moncy changers was not a teaching but a custom... and not one from God... you are blurring the line and are not doing a good job of it.
Not sure why you think it is a jew vs. christian thing... they are the same.
Sk8er408 8 months ago
@Sk8er408 You are so far off base one knows not where to begin. So, you believe Christians are to be really good Jews. Sad. And no Christian will agree with you. Why do you worship on Sunday?
IExposeMormonism 8 months ago
@IExposeMormonism
You misunderstanding of simple truths are astounding. I never said christians are to be good jews... only that there is no reason to draw a line and divide the two... Or did you miss that part of the teachings in the NT? Who said i worship on Sunday?
Praise be to G-d
Sk8er408 8 months ago
@Sk8er408 Oh, you go to church on a different day than other Mormons? Many of Jesus' actions, like walking in the corn field, whipping the money changers, etc show Jews are in error. That's why they murdered him. That;s why the temple fell. He condemns the Pharisee and Sadducee Even Josephus says the Jews Earned their destruction.. With cause.
IExposeMormonism 8 months ago
I think the book of mormon is bull shit, the bible is the truth about jesus christ our father!
bboyvietstylez 9 months ago
@bboyvietstylez all religion is bullshit :D
minimanomus 9 months ago
@minimanomus Not The word of God is Bullshit, Mormon is Bull shit, because they said that Joseph smith was the one that saw jesus chirst. They got no evidences. Christian isn't bull shit, because I know the word of god from the bible is True. The bible is the key to everything and life. Bro God can change your life. You just gotta believe and have some faith. ;)
bboyvietstylez 8 months ago
@MaleSingleChristian ur comeback jus proves how unvalid ur first comment was
jacoblasswell 9 months ago
Mormon churches are rich and big because Mormons believe in giving 10% of their income to the church.
JosephStalin11 9 months ago
galatians 1:8 guess the mormons didn't read that passage?
davethedrummer1 9 months ago
@davethedrummer1 Yes, we read it and that is why we are not Bibliolaters who believe in another gospel
ImLDSRU2 9 months ago
@ImLDSRU2 but many of your Bible's passages are different than Christian Bibles. And if you believe in that gospel then why do you not follow it?
davethedrummer1 9 months ago
@davethedrummer1 You are incorrect. We use the King James version of the Bible -- the same version that many other Churches use and we have no special edits in the text. We do have indexes, footnotes and Bible Dictionaries and so on that may be different, but the text of the Bible is the same as yours.
ImLDSRU2 9 months ago
@ImLDSRU2 Moromons believe that men can/will have wives in heaven, correct?
davethedrummer1 9 months ago
@davethedrummer1 Some will, and some will not.
ImLDSRU2 9 months ago
@ImLDSRU2 Matt. 22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
davethedrummer1 9 months ago
@davethedrummer1 That is right. No marriages are conducted in the Resurrection.
ImLDSRU2 9 months ago
@ImLDSRU2 Exactly. And you believe there is no salvation without believing in Joseph Smith, correct?
davethedrummer1 9 months ago
@davethedrummer1 No. Pretty much everyone is saved to a degree of Glory.
ImLDSRU2 9 months ago
@ImLDSRU2 "No Salvation Without Accepting Joseph Smith" is the bold subhead by Joseph Fielding Smith (Doctrines of Salvation, Vol. 1, p. 189).
davethedrummer1 9 months ago
@davethedrummer1 Have you read that article or are you just cribbing from idiot websites?
ImLDSRU2 9 months ago
@ImLDSRU2 it accomplishes the same task, does it not? But I have read that part before. I don't remember the exact text, but it goes on to say something about how Joseph Smith is a prophet and without accepting his teachings one cannot get into Heaven. And what makes these websites so "idiotic"? It's just healthy religious debate :)
davethedrummer1 9 months ago
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@davethedrummer1 Did you read the article?
ImLDSRU2 9 months ago
@ImLDSRU2 whoops i thought my message sent, but it didn't. But what difference does it make? Anyway, I have read the passage before, and it says something about Joseph Smith being a prophet and that one must accept him to enter into salvation. And what makes these websites so idiotic?
davethedrummer1 9 months ago
@davethedrummer1 So, if you haven't really read it, its not really fair to be critical of it. Suppose I told you that Jesus told the Apostles in His day that if people rejected the Apostles, they would be damned? Would you believe it? And if it were true, how would that change your view of this whole problem?
ImLDSRU2 9 months ago
@ImLDSRU2 Hmmm that's a good question. I think I would believe it because Jesus is the Son of God and what he says goes. But I have trouble believing these men would actually be given such power so to say, considering they are so sinful and imperfect unlike Jesus. If it were true however, then I think it would make me think hard about why it is He said this.
davethedrummer1 9 months ago
@davethedrummer1 Well, your thoughtfulness will have something to munch upon now.
Consider these scriptural passages: Matt 10:40. Luke 10:16. Matt 10:14-15 Matt 18:18 Exodus 7:1.
ImLDSRU2 9 months ago
Instead of Matt 18:18 ... use Matt 16:19. Its a bit clearer and more precise.
ImLDSRU2 9 months ago
@ImLDSRU2Thoughtfulness, eh? You seem to be getting rather annoyed. Anyway, all these are very good passages about the subject matter, but one of them especially stands out to me. Luke 10:16 states: "He who listens to you listens to me; he who rejects you rejects me; but he who rejects me rejects Him who sent me." Notice that the focus is not on rejecting the Disciples, it's rejecting God. It's the IDEAS the people are rejecting, not the Disciples. John 3:16 tells us it it's about Jesus
davethedrummer1 9 months ago
@davethedrummer1 Is thoughtfulness a bad thing or an insult in your land? Its a good thing where I come from.
Notice that rejecting the Apostles is said, by the Lord to be rejecting the Lord.
So, if they reject the Apostles they would be damned. It would be better for the inhabitants of Sodom and Gommorah than those people, the Lord said.
ImLDSRU2 9 months ago
@ImLDSRU2 My bad, I read it as thoughtlessness haha. And no, it's not about rejecting the Apostles, like I already said it's about rejecting their ideas. Once again, John 3:16 clearly states, "For God so loved the world that He gave his only son our God, that whoever beleives in HIM shall not perish, but have eternal life." Never in there does ir directly say anything about having to accpet the Apostles. It only statese in other verses that one must accpet them due to the ideas they spread.
davethedrummer1 9 months ago
@davethedrummer1 Yes. It is about rejecting the Apostles. Jesus sends them out to preach. Then he says... "If people reject you, that is the same as rejecting me".
Look, if you don't want to be honest in this discussion, I am not interested in continuing it.
ImLDSRU2 9 months ago
@ImLDSRU2 How am I not being honest? I'm just offering my interpretation of what the Bible is saying. See, in my opinion, it's important to note than Jesus says "that is the same as rejecting me" rather than saying something like, "If people reject you, then they shall not have salvation." But fine, let's discuss something else. Joseph Smith fails the test of being a Prophet that is outlined in Deuteronomy 18:21-22.
davethedrummer1 9 months ago
@davethedrummer1 You are not being honest because you are ignoring the plain and obvious reading of the text.
If you want to chat with someone about how you can twist and turn the scriptures around to mean whatever you feel like you want them to mean, or if you want to weasel word and do all kinds or curliecue interpretation - I'm not your huckleberry. That you see some big huge difference in intent between A=B=C and A=C, I am not your huckleberry.
ImLDSRU2 9 months ago
@davethedrummer1 I am also not interested in your silly tests by which Moses and Jesus would be rejected as Prophets.
ImLDSRU2 9 months ago
@ImLDSRU2 Ummmm, they aren't MY silly tests. They are stated in the Bible. Isn't this passage in your King James version?
davethedrummer1 9 months ago
@davethedrummer1 Yes it is YOUR silly test -- because it is YOU who is misapplying it.
ImLDSRU2 9 months ago
@ImLDSRU2 Alright, maybe I am. Please explain.
davethedrummer1 9 months ago
@davethedrummer1 If you apply a test to Joseph Smith, and reject him based upon that test, but you refuse to conduct the test in EXACTLY the same way and by EXACTLY the same standards on Moses and Jesus (because doing so would also have them fail the test) YOU ARE A HYPOCRITE.
ImLDSRU2 9 months ago
@ImLDSRU2 How would they fail the test (I have applied the test to them, but nice try)? You can't apply everything Jesus says so literally. The whole "when He will come again" stuff can be interpreted as meaning when people die He comes to those people individually, or any number of things.
davethedrummer1 9 months ago
@davethedrummer1 They would fail the test in exactly the same way: Prophecies that -- in the eyes of a skeptic -- did not come true.
You know this an you do not admit it. You are a liar.
ImLDSRU2 9 months ago
@ImLDSRU2 In the eyes of anyone who has a brain can see that a temple was not built in Independence, Missouri. I do suppose the prediction of the Civil War spreading to all nations can be taking figuratively, but I don't see how the temple can be. But I think I'm done here. You have your opinions and I have mine.
davethedrummer1 9 months ago
@davethedrummer1 In the eyes of anyone who has a brain can see that all of the buildings of the Temple complex were not destroyed so that "not one stone was was left upon another", The "Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven" did not happen while the High Priest was alive, no one has said to a mountain "be thou removed" and it flung itself into the sea and on and on and on... You are a hypocrite.
ImLDSRU2 9 months ago
@ImLDSRU2 And how about when Jesus told his disciples what the signs of his second coming would be (sun being darkened, moon not giving light, stars falling from heaven, etc.) then stated, "Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled."
(Matthew 24:34)
Did those signs happen in Jesus generation? If taken literally, one would have to assume that Jesus was a false prophet. :oP
JediMormon 9 months ago
@JediMormon And many people have indeed taken it just that way. Those people who non-Christian who believe that Jesus is a false prophet are less hypocritical than the so called "Christians" who apply one standard to Joseph Smith to call him a false prophet and then completely give Jesus a pass when He fails the same test.
ImLDSRU2 9 months ago
@davethedrummer1 , "verily, I say unto you, that when I give a commandment to any of the sons of men to do a work unto my name, and those sons of men go with all their might and with all they have to perform that work, and cease not their diligence, and their enemies come upon them and hinder them from performing that work, behold, it behooveth me to require that work no more at the hands of those sons of men, but to accept of their offerings."
(D&C 124:49)
JediMormon 9 months ago
@davethedrummer1 You bibliolatrous hypocrites are a nuisance to God. You get in the way of His Good Work. It was exactly this kind of legalistic hide-bound, "Oh teacher let's see what the Law says about this" kind of crap you are pulling now that Jesus condemned in the Pharisees.
ImLDSRU2 9 months ago
@ImLDSRU2 You know nothing about me, so calling me a hypocrite like the Pharisees is completely unfair. I am only quoting all these passages and proving all the falsities of the LDS Church because I want you to see it like I see it; I'm not self-righteous like the Pharisees. So what problem do you see with me trying to argue my beliefs with you?
davethedrummer1 9 months ago
@davethedrummer1 Good grief. You are a hypocrite! You are exactly like these scribes and pharisees in the Bible. "Oh teacher.. let me show you how in the law you are all wet".
I have seen these idiotic, ridiculous shallow, childish hypocritical, idolatrous arguments hundreds of times. You are not original. You crib these things off the internet and can't do original thinking.
Get over yourself.
ImLDSRU2 9 months ago
@davethedrummer1 I missed your question about what problem is there with you trying to argue your beliefs.
The problem is that you are not doing that. What you are doing is running down my beliefs. And you are being hypocritical when you do it -- you don't apply the same standards to your beliefs that you apply to mine.
Its dishonest and it is hypocritical.
ImLDSRU2 9 months ago
@davethedrummer1 ... " For in the resurrection they neither marry (the groom), nor are given in marriage (the bride),..." (explanations added). According to this verse, there will be no marriages performed in heaven. Nowhere does it say that there won't be married couples in heaven.
JediMormon 9 months ago
..... Do people usually ask their government representatives about their underwear? Didn't think so..
ehhnothx9 9 months ago
Hey we are here for you . Whatever is holding you back from joining The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints talk with a member or some missionaries and they'll be able to help you . That is the reason you are here . Just hope one day you can have the joy only the members of the Lord Jesus Christ's true Church can receive , members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints . We have something you are jealous of but it doens't have to be that way .
mollymu1 9 months ago
@mollymu1 - For those interested in becoming Christians instead, find a good local church that represents everything the gospel of the Bible teaches. Don't fall for any of the false gospels out there as they are accursed and not part of Christ's church. John 14:6 and Isaiah 43:10 say it all...
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ou812yt 9 months ago
Anyone here find it funny that there are 2 Christians below arguing about who is worshipping god correctly?
gooieslee 9 months ago
Go to a mormon church and attend , they'll help you throughout the tough times , including paying your rent.until you get on your feet. As far as the Catholic church. the priest is more likely to sniff your sons underwear. Pretty sorry church.
dallas5sb 10 months ago
What happened with your Christ being the judge? Christians are such hypocrits sometimes, teaching forgiveness, love and happiness, yet it seems they're all so bitter and angry, damning everyone to hell from Gays to Mormons... I've never understood why the profession of God and Love, from people so cold, bitter and closed.
Or perhaps I need to repent too, and start hating on other people and religions.
heywhoishema 10 months ago
It was so cool when christ bashed on other people when he was on the earth!!!! This is almost as pathetic as soldier boy trying to dugie.
MrMjt369 10 months ago
@MrCanadianGeek i'm a Mormon too and I believe you are right... I just finished over a fight for someone who is an anti- Mormon why would they do that? really? they shouldn't treat us that way cause they will also be treated that way
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JessaWefgdhjfew 10 months ago
IF you are looking into the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints be sure to ask a active member not a non member or someone who is having problems at this time in their lives . If you want to know about the Baptist Church go to their site . If you want to learn about us ask us. And ask yourself about the fruit you see from us.
mollymu1 10 months ago
The idiots at TYT don't have the ability to learn. They just spew their stoopid rhetoric to their minions with sub-human intellect. The pastor in question is absolutely correct about all of his statements. The mormon faith is kooky from every perspective, but dopes like TYT don't have a religious position to claim any research. It didn't sound like hate, it sounded like the facts. Don't shoot the messenger just because you don't like what they're saying. Mormons are ignorant and in need...
cr500blur 10 months ago
@cr500blur In need of what?
vontelo 10 months ago
@vontelo - They are in need of the one and only true gospel of the Bible and to be born again through the Holy Spirit. Any other gospel is cursed...
cr500blur 10 months ago
@cr500blur The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints contains the fullness of the gospel. This is evident in so many ways. Where does the authority come from to be born again, or to be baptized? Jesus Christ held that priesthood authority, and it was lost.(Amos 8:11)If something is lost a restoration is needed. The priesthood authority of God was restored through Joseph Smith, and the Book of Mormon is evidence of this. I am willing to bet that you haven't read it, have you? (2 Cor. 13:1)
vontelo 10 months ago
@vontelo - Sorry bud, you have been fooled. The full gospel came from Jesus and was never lost. He said 'it is finished' on the cross, and God does not change His mind. If you choose to believe another gospel, you are accursed. You'll have to re-read the Bible if you have one still. Otherwise, you're barking up the wrong tree. I have the Bible...why would I read a false gospel? Get your facts together before bashing Christian beliefs...
cr500blur 10 months ago
@cr500blur I love how you keep relying on ad hominem attacks! I mean really? Is that the Christian way? An honest seeker of truth will find it. You still didn't answer my question about authority. Where does it come from and who holds it today? Also, I love how you have so much to say about "the Mormons" yet you haven't even read the Book of Mormon.
vontelo 10 months ago
@vontelo - Looks like you also need to get a dictionary as well. How do you tie this in as an Ad Hominem attack. I already know that the common mormon answer to everything is that they are being attacked, but how did you make that stretch? In case you're having trouble understanding today, and I suspect also on previous days, knowledge has been gained over the last 25 years. I'm sorry if that isn't long enough for you. Jesus holds the power sport, try doing some research, instead of this...
cr500blur 10 months ago
@cr500blur Ok, bottom line is that this movie is posted about some pastor getting after Harry Reid for his beliefs in Jesus Christ. If Harry Reid, you, or I want to believe a certain way that is fine, but to come on here and start criticizing others for their beliefs is wrong. It is not very Christian in my opinion. Your ad hominem attacks are evident with your name calling. "idiots" "stoopid" "kooky" "ignorant". Ad hominem defined: appealing to feelings or prejudices rather than intellect.
vontelo 10 months ago
@vontelo - Well, then you'll have to go back and re-read what I said, and take your time. The words 'idiots' and 'stoopid' were used in regards to TYT, a very liberal, partisan site who make fun of Republicans. 'Kooky' was used as a description of the mormon organization and it's history, which is kooky, and not toward any individual. Ignorant was used as it is the best description of what mormons, in general, do...that is to disregard or ignore the gospel of Jesus in the Bible. Feel better?
cr500blur 10 months ago
@cr500blur Its probably you who is ignorant.
ImLDSRU2 10 months ago
@ImLDSRU2 - how'd that be...
cr500blur 10 months ago
@cr500blur Failure to know things.
ImLDSRU2 10 months ago
@ImLDSRU2 - uhmmmmmmm, like........what......in other words, how'd that be? Get it, or is this difficult to understand?
cr500blur 10 months ago
@cr500blur You say our religion is ignorant. I say that you might be ignorant of our religion.
ImLDSRU2 10 months ago
@ImLDSRU2 - Uhhh no, I said mormons were ignorant when they ignored the gospel of the Bible, I'd say that you are probably ignorant of your own organization's history and beliefs. As for me I have had contact with mormon research for over 25 years, but it only took about 3 months to find out all of the scary beliefs. Ignorant would not be a description of my background. Nice try though, knowing nothing of me...
cr500blur 10 months ago
@cr500blur OK... so WHEN the Mormons ignore the Gospel of Jesus Christ, they are ignorant? How would you know this? When did you conduct a study of how knowledgeable Mormons who were ignoring the Gospel of Jesus Christ were at the time that they were ignoring it, vs the times that they were not ignoring it? What were your standards of "Ignore" vs "pay attention to". And what were your standards for "ignorance"?
ImLDSRU2 10 months ago
@ImLDSRU2 - Hmmmm.....I don't know. Why don't you do a study on how to define the apostles warning of following another gospel other than that one in the Bible? What does it mean to be accursed? While you're at it, why don't you go about defining what all of the Bible really means or what God really mean't. Then..... when you climb down from your stoopid golden pedestal of arrogance, may be you can lease some more brain cells to put to use. Yuh think? Or not? Or are you just ignorant?
cr500blur 10 months ago
@cr500blur Why don't you do a study on how to define the apostles warning of following another gospel other than that one in the Bible?
***Because it is impossible. The Apostles never said that. What does it mean to be accursed?
*** It means you will not find favor with God. Glad to be of help with your problems understanding things.
ImLDSRU2 10 months ago
@ImLDSRU2 - See, now, again, in all your lack of wisdom, you start spouting off about all these stoopid questions, completely ignoring Biblical scripture. Galatians 18-9 speaks plainly about it. Hop off your golden pedestal...you aren't even remotely in the position to be acting arrogant toward me. You can't even get the easy ones correct...
cr500blur 10 months ago
@cr500blur See, now, again, in all your lack of wisdom you start spouting off about your bibliolatry completely ignoring the truth. Even in the Bible that you worship, it says in Galatians 1:8-9 that you should not go after other Gospels .... but there you are... worshiping the Bible as though it were perfect. It speaks plainly about htis. Hop off your goldem pedestal. you aren't even remotely in a position to be acting arrogant toward me... since you are worshipping idols.
ImLDSRU2 10 months ago
@ImLDSRU2 - "that you should not go after other Gospels..."
Uh-oh, you have a reading disorder too. The Bible is perfect, and this is why you and most of your cohorts aren't Christian.
cr500blur 10 months ago
@cr500blur You are a bibliolater. You worship an idol.
Repent and come out of babylon.
ImLDSRU2 10 months ago
@ImLDSRU2 - If you are referring to the Bible as an idol, you are even dumber than I thought. I'll take the true gosple and eternal life, and you can take the false gospel and eternal death in hell. Good luck with that plan...
cr500blur 10 months ago
@cr500blur Yeah.... there you are worshipping a dumb idol -- the work of mans hands -- and you think I am dumb. Right.
ImLDSRU2 10 months ago
@ImLDSRU2 - Well, that's what you get folks when you are a member of a cult. They think that God's word is an idol. Seeeee.......that's why they're not Christians. That's why they are not wanted in their neighborhoods. I just wish they we would all go back to Salt Lake. Too funny how they think they would ever be in the position to call people names. Pot - kettle - black ......
cr500blur 10 months ago
@cr500blur It only becomes an idol when you displace God for your false image. You are an idolater and an anti-Christ.
ImLDSRU2 10 months ago
@ImLDSRU2 - well, let me help you with your delusion. The Bible is the Word of God, and isn't affected by my belief. The Word was with God, and the Word was God. The Bible is our connection to the creator of the universe. You have your connection and Christians have theirs. You Smithians have a MUCH bigger problem to solve, and the Bible is not an idol........ever.
cr500blur 10 months ago
@cr500blur Yes, I understand you are a bibliolater. Come out of babylon and worship God, instead.
ImLDSRU2 10 months ago
@ImLDSRU2 - Not quite a biblio whatever...but you are definitely a cult member. Come out from the blasphemous cult you appear to be associated with. Hell is eternal...
cr500blur 10 months ago
@cr500blur Yes, I understand you are an idolater. Repent.. come out of babylon and come unto Christ.
ImLDSRU2 10 months ago
@ImLDSRU2 - I idolize Christ and His word. You will be judged on your belief in a false gospel. My savior relies on my desire to follow His word. Isaiah 43:10 speaks of my God and reminds you of your mistake. Remember, we are all God's creation and we will all be judged....mine by His Bible and gospel, yours by your cult's teachings and beliefs. Repent and come out of your cult...
cr500blur 10 months ago
@cr500blur If you idolize Christ then you are seriously disturbed because you are anti-Christ as well.
ImLDSRU2 10 months ago
@ImLDSRU2 - How am I the disturbed one you simpleton...The Bible, the Christ, and the Father are all one team. You are the only one believing in something outside of that circle. Give it a rest, you are obviously deranged.
cr500blur 10 months ago
@cr500blur Anti-Christ.
ImLDSRU2 10 months ago
@ImLDSRU2 - cult member...Christ is our savior...
cr500blur 10 months ago
@cr500blur Yes, Christ is your Savior. You should show more gratitude and stop being anti-Christ.
ImLDSRU2 10 months ago
@ImLDSRU2 - Annnnd you should show a little more respect and follow His gospel. Stop with your anti-christ assessment...it hardly fits and his very disrespectful...
cr500blur 10 months ago
@cr500blur I show total respect for Jesus. Did you somehow confuse yourself with Jesus? I am under no obligation to respect anti-Christs.
ImLDSRU2 10 months ago
@ImLDSRU2 - Good luck, you're going to need it...
cr500blur 10 months ago
@cr500blur I always like to have luck... but I do not need it. And for those who need it.. it will be insufficient.
In either case, luck is irrelevant for you. It is not a matter of luck, but rather a decision you need to make to come out of babylon. If you don't want to, then fine.. don't come. But do not err in fighting against zion.
At the very least follow the advice of the wise Gamaliel.
ImLDSRU2 10 months ago
@ImLDSRU2 - Yes, you will need luck...For anyone else, these scriptures are evidence of why mormons are not considered Christian. They believe in many gods.
Gal 1:9 - ...if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
Isaiah 43:10 - ...before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.
II Timothy 3:16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God...
God doesn't change His mind or make mistakes...His gospel stands thru the ages...
cr500blur 10 months ago
@cr500blur You are a bibliolater and anti-Christ. You need to repent.
ImLDSRU2 10 months ago
@ImLDSRU2 - You need to wake up and smell the coffee satan worshiper...
cr500blur 10 months ago
@cr500blur It is your nature to lie about the Children of Christ. You are anti-Christ.
ImLDSRU2 10 months ago
@ImLDSRU2 - What children would that be oh ignorant one? I am a child of Christ. What, am I lying about myself? Pot....kettle....black = lost soul.
cr500blur 10 months ago
@cr500blur You are anti-Christ.
ImLDSRU2 10 months ago