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  • Joh:12:43: For they loved the praise of men more than the praise of God.

    Joh:12:44: Jesus cried and said, He that believeth on me, believeth not on me, but on him that sent me.

    Joh:12:45: And he that seeth me seeth him that sent me.

    Joh:12:46: I am come a light into the world, that whosoever believeth on me should not abide in darkness.

    Joh:12:47: And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.

  • Joh:12:48: He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

    Joh:12:49: For I have not spoken of myself; but the Father which sent me, he gave me a commandment, what I should say, and what I should speak.

    Joh:12:50: And I know that his commandment is life everlasting: whatsoever I speak therefore, even as the Father said unto me, so I speak.

  • Joh:9:31: Now we know that God heareth not sinners: but if any man be a worshipper of God, and doeth his will, him he heareth. JOHN 5;30 I CAN OF MINE OWN SELF DO NOTHING

  • @MrAHMADEEY1 What about "And the Word was God" (John 1:1). What about "My Lord and my God" (John 20:28)? What about "I and my Father are one" (John 10:30)? "Before Abraham was, I am" (John 8:58 with Ex 3:14). If you the verses you mentioned from John's gospel, you must accept all of them. Pretending the NT does not speak of Christ's deity is either the result of dishonesty, ignorance, or confusion.

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  • (LISTEN TO JESUS is telling you clearly) matthew 15:9:They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men -----------(LISTEN TO JESUS is telling you clearly) Mark 7:7 They worship me in vain; their teachings are but rules taught by men.'

  • @MrAHMADEEY1 Listen to Jesus--"I and my Father are one" (John 10:30). Listen to Jesus, "Before Abraham was, I am" (John 8:58). Listen to Jesus "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty" (Rev 1:8).

  • Isaiah:43:15: I am the LORD, your Holy One, the creator of Israel, your King.-----Joh:7:16: Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.

    ----Joh:7:17: If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.

  • @MrAHMADEEY1 You fail to acknowledge the dual nature of Jesus Christ--his humanity and his deity; hence, the title "Son of man" and "Son of God", both of which are attributed to the Lord Jesus Christ throughout the New Testament. You only quote verses emphasizing his humanity--the Son of man--but never those that recognize him as the Son of God.

  • Isaiah:43:10: You are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.------Isaiah:43:11: I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.----- NO 3 in 1 . God Almighty is always explecite (only one) No 1 Else can save or judge

  • @MrAHMADEEY1 Tell ye, and bring them near; yea, let them take counsel together: who hath declared this from ancient time? who hath told it from that time? have not I the LORD? and there is no God else beside me; a just God and a Saviour; there is none beside me. Look unto me, and be ye saved, all the ends of the earth: for I am God, and there is none else. (is 45:21-22).

  • @MrAHMADEEY1 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God. (Heb 12:2)

  • @MrAHMADEEY1 I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear (Is 45:23) For it is written, As I live, saith the Lord, every knee shall bow to me, and every tongue shall confess to God.(Rom 14:11) That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow...And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father (Phil 2:10-11)

  • Matt:28:18: Jesus say All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.--------------Mark:13:32­: But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither JESUS, but only the Father.

  • @MrAHMADEEY1 Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what is his name, and what is his son's name, if thou canst tell? (Prov 30:4)

  • Well, duhh... Jesus Christ isn't God. He is God's son.

  • @FEINBACHRISING To your first point, Jesus Christ is also referred to as God--"John 1:1, Is 9:6-7, 1 John 5:7, John 20:28. Why not cite these in your response? Secondly, the apostle John does equate Father, Son, and Spirit in 1 John 5:7: For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.. Finally, just because you do not understand or accept the scripture does not mean your BIAS refutes the scripture.

  • @FEINBACHRISING Your response betrays a lack of understanding of what the scriptures call "the mystery of godliness" (1 Tim 3:16). Either you do not understand the scripture or you ignore the humanity of Jesus Christ. That is the mystery--"God was manifest in the flesh."  The so-called problems you cite result from your imposing your own bias on the text that Jesus Christ could not be both fully God and fully man. If you accept this scriptural premise, your so-called contradictions resolve.

  • With the old testament and the new, it's either the biggest most elaborate conspiracy in human history, or it is likely the truth. What is definitely true is that the Bible is unlike any other 'holy' book on Earth.

  • @bslinkymi112 ?????? death and murder? I know of other books that do not have the same things in it along with some that do unlike any other? I'm sorry but half of it is someone else's book.

  • @bslinkymi112 No it isn't, where did you get that from? The bible is very much alike other "holy" books and myths.

  • @lnmylife First, I disagree that the Bible is like other so-called sacred texts, but until you supply some specifics--names of texts and how exactly they are alike--your comment betrays more empty conjecture than educated response. If we were to only consider the fulfilled prophecies of the Bible, we would say how the Koran, the Book of Mormon, the Hindu Vedas (to name a few) pale in comparison to the Holy Bible.

  • @JesusIsUrSaviour HAHAHA, your comment is so ingorant. You won! Not even gonne try debating you.

  • For all readers out there, this is the mark of the new skeptic--ad hominem attacks and empty philosophical conjecture. Rather than debate a believer on point, he or she resorts to name calling and mockery to hide what is apparently an emotional position--their skepticism--and not a sound, reasonable, and researched position. In the end, it is the heart that is in rebellion against God. This, as Paul writes, is the reason they rebel--"because they did not LIKE to retain God in their knowledge"

  • @JesusIsUrSaviour Maybe you should look up the definition of ad hominem because this wasn't one.

    Making my claim that you are ingorant even more solid, so I will say it again. YOU ARE IGNORANT and this is not an ad hominem.

  • @lnmylife I've looked at the evidence for the Bible, and looked at other spiritual books. If you hadn't I would expect your response. If you have, I would expect more explanation.

  • @bslinkymi112 If you are really uneducated and have done no critical research at all I would've expected this repsonse, I am not gonne waste my time.

  • @lnmylife Does the Bible have pretty much the same expectation for actuality as say the Quran?

  • @bslinkymi112 what?

  • @lnmylife Does the Bible and the Quran have seperate distinguishable evidence to support their claim of truth, and are they stronger or weaker. or are they alike in their evidence and validity.

  • @bslinkymi112 Depends on what subject, if it is about that they both claim that the earth is flat they both don't support their claim with enough evidence.

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  • @bslinkymi112 You don't understand what point i was trying to make?

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  • @bslinkymi112 I don't get your last sentence. And are you being sarcastic? ;p

  • @lnmylife I read your comment wrong. But the Bible does say it's a sphere not flat. And since it was written so long ago, does it have to expound on such a small claim? But what of Jesus? There are some very cool prophecies in the Old Testament about who the messiah would be. Christ fulfills many of those prophecies with precision.

  • @bslinkymi112 Okay, about christ. 1. How do you know the prophecies where fulfilled by Jesus? What is your source?

  • @lnmylife The jewish scriptures were around long before Christ was. Christ came, they were fulfilled. They describe in minute detail his life and death.

  • @bslinkymi112 I would just like to take this structuraly, 1. the prophecies about jesus are in the bible, 2. The outcome of the prophecies are in the bible too. How reliable is this for a sceptic? How does it hold any ground against any other myth with predictions.

  • @lnmylife The OT is the Jewish Bible, which was before the NT. The prophecies speak of the Christ. After Christ lives, the NT is written. Just because the two books are collaborated doesn't mean they didn't arrive seperatly. It's like a science book with new evidence of astronomy tacked on to a book a hundred years prior. But no other religious text is comparable with the prophecies in the Old Testament. 

  • @bslinkymi112 And if any of the things in the OT of the Jewish Bible and the NT could be factually checked like astronomy I'd be the first one that check it and accept it. But because there are no other documents regarding these strange events, I've got to say that I find it crazy to beleive that a man walked on water and did more odd stuff.

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