Milstein had a beautiful tone that he tailored to circumstance. I can assure you that on the several occasions I heard him in person (twice or three times at Chicago's Orchestra Hall, and in Detroit, South Bend, perhaps other places) he was a giant on stage and played with the utmost verve and athleticism, as well as his marvelous musicianship. The sensitivity and give/take with orchestras so apparent on his LP's did not prevent outstanding projection in the concert hall!
a little curious how the beginning of this movement is so appropriate with the theme of his "Grosse Fugue" isn't it ? It is as if Beethoven put in that piece all the sounds of his life and none of us could really understand that piece. However , great piece , great played and incredible power of expression , it made my day.
I understand your devotion milstein91--but if you, and other listeners--really love Milstein then you should be pleased with the POSITIVE commentary I left earlier. Milstein did have a smallish sound--and he sometimes literally had to be kicked out on stage to perform. How do I know this? Because Artur Balsam, his accompanist for 20 years, told me so. Not in a nasty way, but to show that he overcame these problems to be one of the greats.
Why are uninformed people so anxious to jump on others?
@ipmoic Its great, that you told me he was bery nervous, which comes to most people performing, but the fact is i really liekt hat you told me some new info, haha you should send me a message about him!!! stuff that you heard. I look up to Nathan Milstein, and i consider him the best. I really respect this guy and i wished iw as born before he passed. I know all poeple wont like him, but we all know he was a excellent violinist and positive or negative comments are just opinions.
the french pride of Kreutzer made him make the biggest mistake of his life
this sonata is the most beautiful piece I've ever listend to it contains all the emotions you can imagine you should really read Leo Tolstoy's book or see the movie immortal beloved you'll have other perspectives to judge this sonata
I have commented here before but Milstein's rhythmic intensity and the ability to not "scratch" any notes as he plays intensely still thrills me and remains a true marvel.
Any young musician watching should take Milstein's story as tremendous inspiration. He had a small sound and suffered his entire life from stage fright. Yet here we are today celebrating him as one of the finest violinists of the 20th century. A man who played beautifully until the unheard of age of 82.
I know this piece was written in the 19th century and although I listen with my "20th century ears," the key changes/modulations in this mvt get me everytime. Totally revolutionary.
developed around a characteristic rythyhm,with the speedy form of a tarantella,sort of creates a perpetuum mobile movement,wonderful sonatan ,long live ludwig van,excellent violinist mr. Milstein
Bridgetower must have been one heck of a violinist to have played this by virtually sightreading it at 8 in the morning for a CONCERT! I can't imagine! In view of that alone it is kind of a shame the name was changed to Kreutzer since Kreutzer thought it was "unplayable".
Most pianists, when playing sonatas, have the piano lid fully opened. It is up to their sensitivity not to drown out the other instrumentalist. In the case of this Kreutzer performance, you'll notice the piano lid is on the 1/2 stick--not fully opened. Just another sign that Milstein's brilliant violinism had one area that some might consider a "defect" --a compact, smallish tone. Not to denigrate him--just to point out a fact which younger generations may not know.
I couldn't find any other videos with Milstein playing with some other pianist, maybe you're right.. Though as you say it doesn't make his playing less brilliant.
I couldn't not agree with you, this shows you don't have to have big tone to be great violinist. These days some recording also don't know how to balance this two instruments.
Small compact tone but perfectly formed - a bit like Milstein himself - well I dont know whether he was perfectly formed but he must have had a fairly robust physique since he played into his eighties.
Notice the pianist is playing with ther piano on 1/2 stick. This relates again to the fact that as stupendous as Milstein was, he did have a smallish sound.
Yes, the "Kreutzer" Sonata for Violin and Pianoforte is a theological statement by van Beethoven. I, the musicologist, challenge other YouTube viewers to see if they can also come up with my conclusion !
You can keep your religious truths to yourself. As I told you in the first portion of this upload, the title does not refer to a "Cross" or any other religious item. It refers to the dedicatee--Rudolph Kreutzer--who never played it. That honor went to the famous mulatto Bridgetower whom Beethoven befriended--and vice versa.
So, you think the Waldstein sonata had something to do with the forest too? You can try to search for all of the symbolism you want, but it is, as ipmoic said, named Kreutzer in honor of its dedicatee. If you're looking for hidden theological statements, you'll find that Bach is a bit more interesting
I know the story, but I just didnt feel like writing about Bridgetower since ipmoic had already referenced it in the comment that I was basically defending against 3NUNS' outragous claim that it had something to do with the Holy Cross.
Men in black taking care of some serious business here; I was hoping the page turner would leave his shades on for the final bow, but at least he was smack dab in the middle. Excellent, added to favs.
The pianist is Georges Pludermacher, long time Beethoven player. He had a show on Film&Arts where he played to perfection all of Beethoven Sonatas :). He is the best Beethoven player I've heard so far
6:12 - Page Turner: Finally, no more pages to turn! Now I can just relax and enjoy the music!
mdc396 1 month ago
2nd Movement??????
Rodintube 6 months ago in playlist beethoven piano & violin sonatas
!QUE FENOMENO!!!!
bengomar52 9 months ago
me encanta!!!!!
bengomar52 9 months ago
Milstein, the best as ever !
Thank you Josie dear for sharing !
MrGunterguerrero 9 months ago
Brillant performance!
Bravo!
sevcik2 9 months ago
Milstein had a beautiful tone that he tailored to circumstance. I can assure you that on the several occasions I heard him in person (twice or three times at Chicago's Orchestra Hall, and in Detroit, South Bend, perhaps other places) he was a giant on stage and played with the utmost verve and athleticism, as well as his marvelous musicianship. The sensitivity and give/take with orchestras so apparent on his LP's did not prevent outstanding projection in the concert hall!
SK
SLKA440 1 year ago
this isn't my favorite sonata of Beethoven but it's still good
headkicker100 1 year ago
haha the page turner's wearing sunglasses! :-)
This is awesome!
Violascry 1 year ago
wow stunning performance!!!!!
iutube789 1 year ago
Where's the 2nd movement?!?!?!?! >:(
mountainmanchuck 1 year ago
aw u turn me on so much
Talllie3 1 year ago
God, that was fast. Try to play along!
eflaspo 2 years ago
a little curious how the beginning of this movement is so appropriate with the theme of his "Grosse Fugue" isn't it ? It is as if Beethoven put in that piece all the sounds of his life and none of us could really understand that piece. However , great piece , great played and incredible power of expression , it made my day.
carusggg 2 years ago
what a beautiful violin!
Tharamil 2 years ago
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his tone is very shy!
it's like a mouse who will not come out it's hole!
come out mousey!
MrDouglasfairbanks 2 years ago
no second movement
pedrovski10 2 years ago
I understand your devotion milstein91--but if you, and other listeners--really love Milstein then you should be pleased with the POSITIVE commentary I left earlier. Milstein did have a smallish sound--and he sometimes literally had to be kicked out on stage to perform. How do I know this? Because Artur Balsam, his accompanist for 20 years, told me so. Not in a nasty way, but to show that he overcame these problems to be one of the greats.
Why are uninformed people so anxious to jump on others?
ipmoic 2 years ago 9
@ipmoic Its great, that you told me he was bery nervous, which comes to most people performing, but the fact is i really liekt hat you told me some new info, haha you should send me a message about him!!! stuff that you heard. I look up to Nathan Milstein, and i consider him the best. I really respect this guy and i wished iw as born before he passed. I know all poeple wont like him, but we all know he was a excellent violinist and positive or negative comments are just opinions.
ericgable 1 year ago
Fantastic playing. Really inspired. Thank you.
vstasov 2 years ago
the french pride of Kreutzer made him make the biggest mistake of his life
this sonata is the most beautiful piece I've ever listend to it contains all the emotions you can imagine you should really read Leo Tolstoy's book or see the movie immortal beloved you'll have other perspectives to judge this sonata
haderious 2 years ago
I have commented here before but Milstein's rhythmic intensity and the ability to not "scratch" any notes as he plays intensely still thrills me and remains a true marvel.
Any young musician watching should take Milstein's story as tremendous inspiration. He had a small sound and suffered his entire life from stage fright. Yet here we are today celebrating him as one of the finest violinists of the 20th century. A man who played beautifully until the unheard of age of 82.
ipmoic 2 years ago
Small sound and stage fright?
Who told you those lies?
milstein91 2 years ago 2
LOL at the page turner
ZeroX810 2 years ago
I know this piece was written in the 19th century and although I listen with my "20th century ears," the key changes/modulations in this mvt get me everytime. Totally revolutionary.
MimeAscension 2 years ago
Complete mastery of the bow! Wonderful!
curtisharrell 2 years ago 2
What reason would Kreutzer have to deny a dedication by the most famous composer of the day? Obviously it is playable.
beemochobrahms 2 years ago
The pianist was also very amazing.
belmany 2 years ago 2
developed around a characteristic rythyhm,with the speedy form of a tarantella,sort of creates a perpetuum mobile movement,wonderful sonatan ,long live ludwig van,excellent violinist mr. Milstein
beethomozart 3 years ago 2
Sorry Is Sonata
dacoporate 3 years ago
Verry Good
Wos the concert was nice, I like this concert but, is verry dificult this concert is nice,
Good
dacoporate 3 years ago
Hi! does anyone know how I can find the video of milstein performing de 2nd. movement?
lousantos123 3 years ago
I was looking for it too...
Rinuvien 3 years ago
Bridgetower must have been one heck of a violinist to have played this by virtually sightreading it at 8 in the morning for a CONCERT! I can't imagine! In view of that alone it is kind of a shame the name was changed to Kreutzer since Kreutzer thought it was "unplayable".
OriginalMoonbeam 3 years ago
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Violingirl1993 3 years ago 3
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Violingirl1993 3 years ago
He was a teacher of my teacher!
Violingirl1993 3 years ago 2
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Violingirl1993 3 years ago
wow! milstein and pludermacher as well are really great.
dinulipatti1950 3 years ago
Wonderful performance, really enjoyed it.
Many thanks
DoxyMusic 3 years ago 9
Now that the page-turner had no more pages to turn he leaned on the piano case. How common !
3NUNS 3 years ago
I find very very CRUEL not to post the 2nd movement, I beg mr SamLee0519 or anyone else to do it!
miseriadelafilosofia 4 years ago 3
please please post the second movement!
jjaci 4 years ago
where is part 2?
bravetry 4 years ago 2
Most pianists, when playing sonatas, have the piano lid fully opened. It is up to their sensitivity not to drown out the other instrumentalist. In the case of this Kreutzer performance, you'll notice the piano lid is on the 1/2 stick--not fully opened. Just another sign that Milstein's brilliant violinism had one area that some might consider a "defect" --a compact, smallish tone. Not to denigrate him--just to point out a fact which younger generations may not know.
ipmoic 4 years ago
I couldn't find any other videos with Milstein playing with some other pianist, maybe you're right.. Though as you say it doesn't make his playing less brilliant.
Shumeshi 4 years ago
It can be as well that the producers request him to have the piano on 1/2 stick ?? Remember the time this sonata was recorded (I think in 1964 ?? )
KoganSvetlanov 4 years ago
I couldn't not agree with you, this shows you don't have to have big tone to be great violinist. These days some recording also don't know how to balance this two instruments.
woll2502 4 years ago
Small compact tone but perfectly formed - a bit like Milstein himself - well I dont know whether he was perfectly formed but he must have had a fairly robust physique since he played into his eighties.
wiccalite 3 years ago
Notice the pianist is playing with ther piano on 1/2 stick. This relates again to the fact that as stupendous as Milstein was, he did have a smallish sound.
ipmoic 4 years ago
come again?
Shumeshi 4 years ago
Hey fuck off, seriously, he could play as big as he wanted.
outtrigger 4 years ago
do not speak like that about classical music thanks
3NUNS 3 years ago
Umm, no.
kthxbai
outtrigger 3 years ago
apart from this being played over-dotted instead of triplety, it's amazing!
10clowns 4 years ago
Beethoven's violin works make me hungry for some reason.....
pseudomonasV 4 years ago
Hungry for more? hahaha
kaikobird 4 years ago
Yes, the "Kreutzer" Sonata for Violin and Pianoforte is a theological statement by van Beethoven. I, the musicologist, challenge other YouTube viewers to see if they can also come up with my conclusion !
3NUNS 4 years ago
You can keep your religious truths to yourself. As I told you in the first portion of this upload, the title does not refer to a "Cross" or any other religious item. It refers to the dedicatee--Rudolph Kreutzer--who never played it. That honor went to the famous mulatto Bridgetower whom Beethoven befriended--and vice versa.
ipmoic 4 years ago 3
There are various interpretations of truth as well as of history.
3NUNS 4 years ago
So, you think the Waldstein sonata had something to do with the forest too? You can try to search for all of the symbolism you want, but it is, as ipmoic said, named Kreutzer in honor of its dedicatee. If you're looking for hidden theological statements, you'll find that Bach is a bit more interesting
faustianliszt 3 years ago
Sorry. You are very late in correcting my naivete. But thanks and I am musicological enough to know of then great master !
3NUNS 3 years ago
Think you (faustianliszt) should see the Rachel Barton Pine history os Kreutzer´s sonata...
Seeerj 3 years ago
I know the story, but I just didnt feel like writing about Bridgetower since ipmoic had already referenced it in the comment that I was basically defending against 3NUNS' outragous claim that it had something to do with the Holy Cross.
faustianliszt 3 years ago
Men in black taking care of some serious business here; I was hoping the page turner would leave his shades on for the final bow, but at least he was smack dab in the middle. Excellent, added to favs.
gawgul 4 years ago
bellìsima ejecución de esta joyita del gran Beethoven. No hubo otro más grande. gracias por esta obra.
quequenito 4 years ago
The pianist is Georges Pludermacher, long time Beethoven player. He had a show on Film&Arts where he played to perfection all of Beethoven Sonatas :). He is the best Beethoven player I've heard so far
nairdaleo 5 years ago
perfection!
gaglianobabe 5 years ago 2
This is the way it should be played, what a great performance. This and the Heifetz recording are my two favorites.
vlnking 5 years ago
And you have to realize how much, and why, you suck before you can become better :)
Thanks for the video SamLee! Great performance of a great piece by great musicians, so it's great!
OtsoB 5 years ago
Understanding how much better the musicians before us were helps us understand how much we suck today.:)
poopy2red 5 years ago
Or how much we should strive to become the best we can?
slmllc 5 years ago
they have long time cooperation, even Milstein's final showing he was the accompany pianist
gunmenow 5 years ago
who is the pianist?
wtecosky 5 years ago
=) i'm happy now!
LasFrambuesas 5 years ago
i agree with you
gunmenow 5 years ago
The pianist is doing his job very wel :p He had some strange looks to .. But this piece is absolutly great!
Myrtale 5 years ago
he probanly busted a gasket practicing it so much
poopy2red 5 years ago