About this map... I'm confused.. Sometimes I hear that 1v1 will always spawn diagonally, but then I randomly see a game where you have the "smiley zone of death" where they spawn North-East vs North-West, or South-East vs South-West... So, lets clear things up here... Did I see stuff from an older patch, or is it possible for players to spawn "next to one another" on this map?
@stygn They will never spawn over and under eachother, always one on the right and one on the left. Only top or bottom is random, so you either have diagonal positions or smiley zone of death. :)
you don't always spawn across, actually i think most of the times it happened to me to spawn right next to my opponent with the backdoor between us !!
@SuperHeroR dont understabnd why people call zealots op when a single marine or roach could take out down jus run hit run hit, i didnt even mention they are cheaper. if anything is op is the marauder and their gay concussion shells plus stim?
Davie was weak. He could have easily won in the beginning cause he had zerglings surrounding the probes in both the main and natural of Gnome. If he just attacked those probes, the economy would have been destroyed, focusing Gnome to turtle a bit just in time for a bunch of mutas to spawn for davie.
gnome had zealots in his main and natural mineral line. the zerglings would have targetted the zealots if he just attacked moved the lings. to achieve what you said davie would have to select four zerglings at a time and target fire a single probe just to destroy a single probe. anybody who plays starcraft could tell you how its next to impossible to do this
I just like how both of them doesn't scout in cross-position immediately WHILE day9 was talking about the fact that you always spawn in cross-position in this map
Man... The mistake that killed dayvie was when he walked right past the open half of GnoMe's army not once, but TWICE and trapping himself as a result, losing ALL of his Zerglings. If he took out Gnome's army, he would've been free to tear through GnoMe's economy, defend his base, and deal with Stalkers. (which allows his Mutalisks to freely do massive damage).
@Blassreiter815 An army of zerglings is not considered cheese. 6-8-10 pools are cheese. He went for a legitimate strategy where he split his army in half, yes that zergling army. Zergling is not a cheese unit. And tried to confuse his opponent who already had an army. When you cheese your opponent should not be able to have an army or any offensive units outside.
Not only is 6-gate good against zerg, but davy was a fool to build so many zerglings. He should have a had a roach warren and spent those larva on roaches and drones. That was immediately obvious when Gnome had more than 5 zealots.
The blocking pylon of the front door was excellent. First, he split his force to make zerg feel he can go through the front door by his lings, and surprisingly found it was blocked. OH, it is a so clever move...! Thank for day9 casting such a good game. Plus I prefer your short video like this, although your passion on long video is amazing.
If i find someone annoying, i generally dont visit their channel, but thats just me. Clearly alot of people like yourself take the time to do that, and that's cool if you're into that.
Why the hell are people so stupid to thumb up the spoilers, yes in the comments you (should) discuss the game and if scroll down first and find a spoiler, its your own damn fault. but why are people so stupid, bored and brainless that they deliberately spoil the game for others.
Why people call gnome "just some guy from blizzard". It is a Matt Cooper, he played games in Battle Reports, and he is obviously a good player. And it seems he is balance designer too
errr... sorry but I remember an extremely close match I played a while ago PVZ and we both started on the left side.. soooo yea.. you can spawn on the same side
@nicobimba I never read comments before watching the video itself, but this one time when I accidentally scrolled down there's a fucking thumbed up spoiler. Good work, guys...
@adamd61392 Yeah, he had a good strategy, but he chose poor targets for the zerglings he snuck into GnoME's main. (e.g. targetting the main nexus with a hanful of zerglings when GnoME had a force plenty strong enough to fend them off nearby? Really?)
Davie had a perfect opportunity to do a surround and wipe out half of gnome's army @ 6:45 but instead he does a fail zerg rush into the main and loses half of his own army. The game could've gone a different way.
nah its just 6 gate FE is just too good againest zerg, dayvie didnt react enough againest the 6gate FE. plus i think the only way to beat a 6gate FE are just mass zerglings and roaches and try to out mass the toss but 6gate fe usually is hard to stop even for dayvie. if he is terran or toss, he would have won this match.
@AngleBladeXP i think a standard roach hydra ling would kill a 6 gate toss. roach hydra usually beasts through gateway units unless theres a ton of chokes for epic FFs
@TheTruthHurts129 hydra usually comes in later in the game, and 6gate push usually start at the 7-10 minute mark, and at that time, probably the zerg just either finished the lair or just started hydras. even if they attacked before 7-10 minutes mark, the zerg wont have enough unit to deal with the 6 gate. The Key to stop 6gate push is just scout it out around 5-6 minutes mark... seriously which zerg can scout toss's base when its canoned in, maybe with changlings(most zerg dont get overseers).
@AngleBladeXP do they start with a 4gate and continually put pressure until their FE allows them to support 6 gates? i havent faced a 6 gate before, but id imagine that itd be hard to make 6 gates more effective than 4 gates before an expansion starts getting saturated.
@TheTruthHurts129 you are missing the point, 6gate is a strategy that specialy againest zerg players. 4gate is a strategy that usually works againest most races. 4gate vs wall off terran doesnt work. 4gate vs 6pool doesnt work. 4gate vs korean 4gate doesnt work. 4gate has lots of flaws. 6gate FE isnt a strategy that works on every race with a 100% winning chance. also 6gate FE only works if the other opponent is FEing which most zerg does. That is basicly why 6gate FE is so good againest zerg.
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MeliaGreathouse413 2 months ago
Appears that Dayvie is not as good at Zerg as the other races. Or maybe Zerg is underpowered.
gillettecrackers 10 months ago
he splits his army just fucking kill it
ThreatFromAbovee 11 months ago
That other guy should have won
TheRyanruby 1 year ago
About this map... I'm confused.. Sometimes I hear that 1v1 will always spawn diagonally, but then I randomly see a game where you have the "smiley zone of death" where they spawn North-East vs North-West, or South-East vs South-West... So, lets clear things up here... Did I see stuff from an older patch, or is it possible for players to spawn "next to one another" on this map?
stygn 1 year ago
@stygn They will never spawn over and under eachother, always one on the right and one on the left. Only top or bottom is random, so you either have diagonal positions or smiley zone of death. :)
TheRealYngin 1 year ago
@TheRealYngin Ah, ok : ) Thanks : )
stygn 1 year ago
I guess this goes to show that true ballers play random.
Slothrop91 1 year ago
If this was a serious pro game, the lings that got in the main at the beginning would of been GG, although I doubt I could do better :p
GoodVeggies 1 year ago
you don't always spawn across, actually i think most of the times it happened to me to spawn right next to my opponent with the backdoor between us !!
mosteanuv 1 year ago
Nice! This had better not be a reason to nerf Zealots more...
SuperHeroR 1 year ago
@SuperHeroR dont understabnd why people call zealots op when a single marine or roach could take out down jus run hit run hit, i didnt even mention they are cheaper. if anything is op is the marauder and their gay concussion shells plus stim?
ALTW7 1 year ago
Op for the win lol...fucking joke
legitiment 1 year ago
Davie was weak. He could have easily won in the beginning cause he had zerglings surrounding the probes in both the main and natural of Gnome. If he just attacked those probes, the economy would have been destroyed, focusing Gnome to turtle a bit just in time for a bunch of mutas to spawn for davie.
kwang1imsa 1 year ago
@kwang1imsa
gnome had zealots in his main and natural mineral line. the zerglings would have targetted the zealots if he just attacked moved the lings. to achieve what you said davie would have to select four zerglings at a time and target fire a single probe just to destroy a single probe. anybody who plays starcraft could tell you how its next to impossible to do this
khijon86 1 year ago 3
@kwang1imsa Don't comment if you don't know anything about the game. Makes you sound stupid.
porechewgull 1 year ago
you know gnome is matt cooper the lead designer of starcraft 2 and 1 not just some random guy lol
CraZZZygunnerFilms 1 year ago 9
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CraZZZygunnerFilms 1 year ago
10:40 lol pretty day9
asdf1234jk 1 year ago
10:40 lol pretty day9
asdf1234jk 1 year ago
10:40 lol
asdf1234jk 1 year ago
10:40 lol
asdf1234jk 1 year ago
i see a toss nerf coming... :(
244asdf442 1 year ago
@244asdf442 lol wtf,watch the gsl ok? Half of the players are terrans and protoss have a win lose rato of 1:1, get your facts right.
Nutriment6464 1 year ago
shit ... Gnome's play looked rather messy and unorganized. I didn't think he could win that one!
AGuyWhoPunkUMama 1 year ago 2
so I'm assuming David kim loses as shankaras is not in the rotation any more :))
hootis8 1 year ago
I just like how both of them doesn't scout in cross-position immediately WHILE day9 was talking about the fact that you always spawn in cross-position in this map
RayX77 1 year ago
@RayX77 you can spawn adjacent to each other too
xPeeWee93x 1 year ago
@RayX77 By "Cross Position", he means "Not Vertical Position". You can still spawn Horizontal or Diagonal.
I usually refer to it as "not close position", because vertical is close and horizontal/diagonal are equally distant and much further by ground.
icomposeeflats 1 year ago
@icomposeeflats thx for the clarification, I just misunderstood
RayX77 1 year ago
hahaha dayvie lol :D:D:D:D:D:
zalem95 1 year ago
I hate when I only have two in the gas.
I like having thee in my gas.
MattAndi 1 year ago
Woot protoss ftw
RomanceBlitz 1 year ago
Now all Protoss players should expect some kind of nerf.... :(
Atuor 1 year ago 3
gay "bad breath" commercials
123456789040564 1 year ago
Man... The mistake that killed dayvie was when he walked right past the open half of GnoMe's army not once, but TWICE and trapping himself as a result, losing ALL of his Zerglings. If he took out Gnome's army, he would've been free to tear through GnoMe's economy, defend his base, and deal with Stalkers. (which allows his Mutalisks to freely do massive damage).
Oreoclan 1 year ago
I believe gnome is in the top 200
nbeckster1 1 year ago
1:33 stole a joke from husky =/
ADHDart 1 year ago
@ADHDart Believe it or not, just because husky said it, doesn't mean he said it first....
ltsjack 1 year ago
@ADHDart Husky stole the nose joke from him. ALL OTHER THOUGHT IS HERESY. But day did mention it in his daily like a year ago.
radjer107701 1 year ago
@radjer107701 oOOoOoooO okay ty
ADHDart 1 year ago
This just in, Protoss warp gate units get a huge nerf
xxbobusxx 1 year ago
That was actually really fun to watch
Neotericity 1 year ago
I hope dayvie was drunk. Such bad play...
Koshi1987 1 year ago
This is the greatest rivalry ever.
pinoystarcraft 1 year ago
6:10 its a beautiful trap!
fistman4 1 year ago
Is it gnome, or is it gknow me? You wouldn't think he would capitalize the last 2 letters of his name if it had no meaning.
ncleppe 1 year ago
And it all comes down to the fact that he spawned as zerg...
Limebottle07 1 year ago
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5 great games, thank you for casting them Day9. Keep up the good work :)
shadowogge 1 year ago
% great games, thank you for casting them Day9. Keep up the good work :)
shadowogge 1 year ago
thx 4 epic series
Zgembo1223 1 year ago
Zerg got pylon blocked :)
Winbond 1 year ago
I dont get why he went for mutas they are terrible in this matchup especially when you see 6 warp gates
BTape 1 year ago
funny follow day9 on twitter he said once the same :) plus why dont u give me the name of ur sc2 acc to show me what kinda highlevel pro u are
merathy 1 year ago
wtf did dayvie cheese his way to 3300points in 1 v 1? that was fucking bronze level play
Blassreiter815 1 year ago
@Blassreiter815 An army of zerglings is not considered cheese. 6-8-10 pools are cheese. He went for a legitimate strategy where he split his army in half, yes that zergling army. Zergling is not a cheese unit. And tried to confuse his opponent who already had an army. When you cheese your opponent should not be able to have an army or any offensive units outside.
Limebottle07 1 year ago
horde icon neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed !
UncelEselwantsYOU 1 year ago
Is it just me or were these players.... really bad.
WindxStrife 1 year ago
@WindxStrife It's just you
FrostTwig 1 year ago
Is it really a 100% chance to spawn cross positions? I've played this map A LOT and I don't always spawn cross position.
DanielAntonsen94 1 year ago
@DanielAntonsen94 cross positions as in never under you for ex always diagonal or side t oside but never under
vas2702 1 year ago
@vas2702 Ah... I see!
DanielAntonsen94 1 year ago
@whatboutjosh u right but the koreans start to disappoint me with all this cheese bullshit
merathy 1 year ago
@merathy rofl noobs calling everything cheese
Blassreiter815 1 year ago
I JUST HAD SEX, AND IT FELT SO GOOD, FELT SO GOOD,SHE LET ME PUT MY PENIS INSIDE OF HER
NickVids1313 1 year ago 4
Patch 1.2: Zealot warp in timer increased from 30 to 35.
xHassassin 1 year ago
incoming toss nerfs!
jengo1 1 year ago 6
Really fun and entertaiment casting,. . . . oh yeah well some ppl was playing there. Great job!
Dreamoen 1 year ago
Balance designer loses to blink stalkers... *sigh* please dont nerf
gareth5533 1 year ago
day9 is THE beast :-) ooooooooooooooooh lol
ajtakpetr 1 year ago
ballaaaa gg
stevz0r 1 year ago
*It is also possible to spawn horizontal to your opponent on Shakuras Plateau.
bgreen88 1 year ago
Not only is 6-gate good against zerg, but davy was a fool to build so many zerglings. He should have a had a roach warren and spent those larva on roaches and drones. That was immediately obvious when Gnome had more than 5 zealots.
Zeuts85 1 year ago
both of these players are nubs
DroopyDog17 1 year ago
i had to keep changing the video quality just to hear day9's "O" sounds
dirtydave169 1 year ago
"and theres the goog game! eahhhh!!!" day 9 shrieks lol 10:40
Achielles 1 year ago
wtf best of 1??? thats gay
oIIBLACKOUTIIo 1 year ago
@oIIBLACKOUTIIo
It was best of 5.
irprOh 1 year ago
Wanted dayve to win...
addisonwilson 1 year ago
The blocking pylon of the front door was excellent. First, he split his force to make zerg feel he can go through the front door by his lings, and surprisingly found it was blocked. OH, it is a so clever move...! Thank for day9 casting such a good game. Plus I prefer your short video like this, although your passion on long video is amazing.
youis78945612 1 year ago
does anyone else find gongkia2000 annoying? just wondering
symatic 1 year ago 30
@symatic :D
Rogerdof 1 year ago
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does anyone else find day9 annoying? just wondering
gongkia2000 1 year ago
@gongkia2000
If you find day9 annoying, i just have to congratulate you for being a total idiot for watching his videos. Just saying
Delpifo 1 year ago 15
@Delpifo have you ever done anyhting annoying? ever? then you are a total idiot too, amirite?
PCGamerPortal 1 year ago
@PCGamerPortal
If i find someone annoying, i generally dont visit their channel, but thats just me. Clearly alot of people like yourself take the time to do that, and that's cool if you're into that.
Delpifo 1 year ago
@Delpifo I very much enjoy day9's videos, I just defend the right of some dude to come to this video and mention how much he thinks it sucks.
PCGamerPortal 1 year ago
@kloudd, you try playing perfectly in a tournament in the GRAND FINALS. Not too easy.
DeathBaneSC 1 year ago
lol scream at 10:43 is pretty girly day9 :P ;)
Balgore8 1 year ago 33
@Balgore8 granny
debilka2 1 year ago
@debilka2 lol what? That literally doesn't even make sense :P.
Balgore8 1 year ago
good series :D
connorwoman 1 year ago 4
Queue Protoss nerf.
Denamic 1 year ago
got dang that zerg player was terrible.... horrible micro and little macro
kloudd 1 year ago
@kloudd yeah. He's the number 3 random player in the entire world. pretty terrible.
MentalSentinel 1 year ago
GnoME is also a high ranked player: us.battle.net/sc2/en/profile/469690/1/GnoME/ladder/4477#current-rank
phpking 1 year ago
Why the hell are people so stupid to thumb up the spoilers, yes in the comments you (should) discuss the game and if scroll down first and find a spoiler, its your own damn fault. but why are people so stupid, bored and brainless that they deliberately spoil the game for others.
DeathLisk 1 year ago
0:01 to skip the ad.
JvDam 1 year ago 3
@JvDam that, or you just get Adblock Plus :D
omarjuul 1 year ago
i can win dayvie
brackpersian 1 year ago
That was the worst zergling micro I've ever seen :D
idklolunruhe 1 year ago
North Americans are nothing compared to Koreans in Starcraft.
WhatboutJosh 1 year ago
@WhatboutJosh Koreans are also people with no souls.
Pleasebuff 1 year ago
@WhatboutJosh david kim is korean :p
emikochan13 1 year ago 2
gnome is a bigger baller then kobe b
ImPhoSho 1 year ago
david is noob thats why the game is unbalanced
Merto6 1 year ago
amazing game, neveer faced tis 6 gtae myself
xPloSiVgT 1 year ago
I think Im gonna start smoking just to spite these KILLAZ ads!
92keys524 1 year ago
zerg=dayvie's worst race
omgwtfitsjesus1 1 year ago 3
@omgwtfitsjesus1 Zerg = most under powered race
xRobx6968 1 year ago
@xRobx6968 FruitDealer and NesTea both won the GSL as Zergs
lamby130 1 year ago
yay! i can has zerg buff?
jarredcactus 1 year ago
go for the probes.. not the nexus.. GG dayvie
bboy2143 1 year ago
Omg Thank you Day9 I enjoyed each of these games!
TColeTrainT 1 year ago
from this article sclegacy.com/feature/3-events/427-my-day-at-blizzard-2
alpaw2 1 year ago
Why people call gnome "just some guy from blizzard". It is a Matt Cooper, he played games in Battle Reports, and he is obviously a good player. And it seems he is balance designer too
alpaw2 1 year ago 8
errr... sorry but I remember an extremely close match I played a while ago PVZ and we both started on the left side.. soooo yea.. you can spawn on the same side
jeanschyso 1 year ago
@jeanschyso no. you can't. either you're a dumbass or you're a dumbass.
demonsoulzx 1 year ago
@jeanschyso "a while ago"
hiimjerome 1 year ago
@jeanschyso not possible buddy
really5555 1 year ago
Dayvie got fired after this right???
nicobimba 1 year ago 8
Thanks for a spoiler @nicobimba ........
SnolleB 1 year ago 6
@nicobimba I never read comments before watching the video itself, but this one time when I accidentally scrolled down there's a fucking thumbed up spoiler. Good work, guys...
MrDildoez 1 year ago
THERES THE GOOD GAME ... OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
Mustainexd 1 year ago
Protoss FTW
kriblets 1 year ago
this was very disappointing, davie made so many mistakes
adamd61392 1 year ago
@adamd61392 Yeah, he had a good strategy, but he chose poor targets for the zerglings he snuck into GnoME's main. (e.g. targetting the main nexus with a hanful of zerglings when GnoME had a force plenty strong enough to fend them off nearby? Really?)
ElvenNoble 1 year ago
Happy face cannot be unseen
Nemesis000000 1 year ago 72
Gnome's play always confuses the hell out of me....
Pwncakes1966 1 year ago
i like how they make so many mistakes, making day9 so nergasmic and the game so exciting lol
aqsrelax 1 year ago 2
Davie had a perfect opportunity to do a surround and wipe out half of gnome's army @ 6:45 but instead he does a fail zerg rush into the main and loses half of his own army. The game could've gone a different way.
Bloodthr0e 1 year ago 2
@Bloodthr0e He probably would have done really well with it if gnome hadn't pylon blocked his own ramp. Great trick play.
BTape 1 year ago
i like how they make so many mistakes, making the game so exciting lol
aqsrelax 1 year ago
nah its just 6 gate FE is just too good againest zerg, dayvie didnt react enough againest the 6gate FE. plus i think the only way to beat a 6gate FE are just mass zerglings and roaches and try to out mass the toss but 6gate fe usually is hard to stop even for dayvie. if he is terran or toss, he would have won this match.
AngleBladeXP 1 year ago
@AngleBladeXP i think a standard roach hydra ling would kill a 6 gate toss. roach hydra usually beasts through gateway units unless theres a ton of chokes for epic FFs
TheTruthHurts129 1 year ago
@TheTruthHurts129 hydra usually comes in later in the game, and 6gate push usually start at the 7-10 minute mark, and at that time, probably the zerg just either finished the lair or just started hydras. even if they attacked before 7-10 minutes mark, the zerg wont have enough unit to deal with the 6 gate. The Key to stop 6gate push is just scout it out around 5-6 minutes mark... seriously which zerg can scout toss's base when its canoned in, maybe with changlings(most zerg dont get overseers).
AngleBladeXP 1 year ago
@AngleBladeXP do they start with a 4gate and continually put pressure until their FE allows them to support 6 gates? i havent faced a 6 gate before, but id imagine that itd be hard to make 6 gates more effective than 4 gates before an expansion starts getting saturated.
TheTruthHurts129 1 year ago
@TheTruthHurts129 you are missing the point, 6gate is a strategy that specialy againest zerg players. 4gate is a strategy that usually works againest most races. 4gate vs wall off terran doesnt work. 4gate vs 6pool doesnt work. 4gate vs korean 4gate doesnt work. 4gate has lots of flaws. 6gate FE isnt a strategy that works on every race with a 100% winning chance. also 6gate FE only works if the other opponent is FEing which most zerg does. That is basicly why 6gate FE is so good againest zerg.
AngleBladeXP 1 year ago
PvZ Race Wars FTW!
Pwncakes1966 1 year ago
That was terrible play by Dayvie.
He could've micro'ed those lings waaay better.
NationalHQ 1 year ago
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Interesting to note that the player loses everytime he spawns as a certain race.
poji23 1 year ago
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poji23 1 year ago
Balance that dayvie!
AnetteOlzonForever 1 year ago 6
probes and pylons probes and pylons is how u won in life ;D
amilkar123456 1 year ago
David Kim sucks. He was bad in SC2 Alpha and that has carried over to here.
RichColours 1 year ago
When is 16+16+6≠ 38?
RichColours 1 year ago 66
@RichColours In base 16?
ambassador1022 1 year ago
@RichColours its 16 + 16 = 32 + 12 = 46?
Livingvapour 1 year ago
@RichColours When humans turn away from a base 10 system of math
PKjoo 1 year ago
@RichColours non-euclidian geometry.
KalbiKing 1 year ago
@RichColours
Now: 16+16+6=37
NIMHFS 1 year ago
How, HOW did Terran win this game!?
NIMHFS 1 year ago
@NIMHFS omg spoiler :(
chrisjk123 1 year ago
@RichColours for example in hexadecimal numeral system?
Rangergfx 1 year ago
@RichColours
Rangergfx 1 year ago
@RichColours in base 20 for example
PCGamerPortal 1 year ago
@RichColours Sometimes man.... sometimes.
Fyreswing 1 year ago
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@RichColours when they're imaginary :) 38i FTW
theblackpawn 1 year ago
@RichColours 16+16+6=38
TheAwesomeAleks 1 year ago
@TheAwesomeAleks Watch the video first
TheE113 1 year ago
@TheE113 i saw the video, and he said 16+16+6 often = 38. and thats true
TheAwesomeAleks 1 year ago
@RichColours
In base 16 (hexadecimal) 16+16+6 = 32 for instance ;)
G1ad3r 1 year ago
...and this is why Sharkuas Platue was taken off of ladder maps.
DruzzillandRo 1 year ago
yep... terran and protoss will be nerfed badly in the next patch...
TheNeCafe 1 year ago
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@TheNeCafe haha you wish
alahad 1 year ago
@TheNeCafe Shouldn't it be called Zerg boost rather than Terran/Protoss nerf?
SuleyBR 1 year ago
Bad play by dayvie in this game. ;(
KlauzAlAkir 1 year ago
gnome is a boss.
leobelkin 1 year ago
And the celebratory mass spine crawler fireworks!!!
GeminiStarCraft 1 year ago 5
zerg buff+protoss nerf coming...
ihavenousernamelol2 1 year ago 2
@ihavenousernamelol2 I'm praying for that
cuguy1 1 year ago
That pylon trap was sexy.
SpikeZantren 1 year ago 8
zerg player would have had this game in the pocket if he wasn't so undecisesive with his zerlings in the beginning.
acidosen 1 year ago 6