Yeah its such an old argument.. regardless my Trust T78 has never had a BOV on up to 20psi for the last 3 years.. and the turbo's in great bearing tolerances and doesnt blow smoke.. go figure.
For those complaining about surge..... this kind of surge is FINE.
if you really learn how to read compressor maps, the other kind of surge, when the turbo is fully spooled, under load at a given RPM point, is what blows turbos, not by having a BOV too strong or not having one at all.....
I get comp surge unless i hit 10 psi. My supra doesn't make power unless it has load so I cannot trigger comp surge or BOV without the car moving. I hate how ppl can rev their vehicle and their BOV goes off, that's sick.
@tienshenhan86 yo dude i am having the same problem with my sr20det red top i just got a greddy type rz bov and it doesnt go off until i build up pressure in the hotpipe ive ran it with all different settings and still no avail...
@S13240sxUser I figured it out, I had the bov connected on the charge/intercooler pipes instead of on a source from the manifold BEHIND the throttle butterfly. Use a source right off the throttle body/intake or T one off and it will be night and day!
It's funny to see how little people know about turbocharging. He is only getting surge because he hasn't built enough boost for the blow off valve to actuate. This is common on all mid to large frame turbochargers.
@95GST16g oky thanks.if your blow off is soft and small hole for the pressure you load your engine but you still have good pressure... when you let off the throttle will that surge appear?as the blow off cant handle the boost?
I'm not sure what scenario your presenting but look up how a BOV works and what it looks like inside, it will help you understand many situations. The spring inside is what we're talking about when we say "soft" or "hard." Its the preload to keep the BOV closed at partial throttle and such, as well as hold more boost. Softer spring = release at lower boosts but wont hold higher boost.
@95GST16g thanks for the info man.i know that.but.i have stock bov on my bpu.i run it at 14 psi and it surges at 4500rpm and not after that.hows that possible.thats my scenario
okay when you get a turbo then lets see how long you last before you either a. realize that compressor surge is not a good thing and get a bov, or B. fuck over your turbo.
@a71jaS you sir are a moron... that is definately compressor surge... I get it when I haven't built up enough boost on my GT3540 and I'm currently not even running a BOV.
everyone is so worried about this turbo surging itself to death....
i have the same turbo on my FD RX-7 with a Tial BOV.... it will still surge, the T04 like of HKS turbos has a very different compressor map than that of other T04 family turbos from any other company. the HKS T04's inherently surge.
this surge is typical of any small frame turbo that flows lots of CFM, which the HKS' TO4 family does.
throttle body is in the shot, you can clearly see it function, this guy just opted for no bov, which is a shame because hes gonna destroy that beautiful turbo
also: look up on page 3 of these comments!!! THEY WROTE ALREADY THAT IT SURGES!!!! AND IT DESTROYS THE TURBO!!! THERE IS NOOOO BOV!!!...so shut the fuck up!! -.-
Wow.. I didn't even know that... So if you don't have a BOV, it could actually cause damage to the turbo!?? I'm getting a Do Luck Supra RZ in about two weeks... I should study up a bit more on it lol
No it was production model turbo AWD 3SGTE. I think it was the ST205 Celica chassis. Its the Celica GT4 or the Alltrack depending on what part of the world youre in
u cannot compare a 2jz with a sr20...sr20s are the lil retarded sisters of nissan...the rb engines are the high end makes from nissan. and the 2jz even shits on all that. its a shame toyota never made a AWD car because 9/10 a Skyline would destroy a supra based on the fact that it puts that power to the road better. 2jz will always be a better engine....just a shit drivetrain.
that is true to a certain point but depends on the area in which a 2j supra faces off a rb26 gtr.. on the highway a 2j will still pwn awd gtrs but off the lights from 0-100 gtr will pwn
2jz are the toughest straight 6 engines to come out of the japan. they can run 400rwkw and still run factory internals.....surge on big turbos is normal and natural.....due to the fact that they flow so much air not all of it gets expelled, which ultimately sends it back throguh the turbo causing surge.
O.k. heatl0rd... I'll back down, you know EXACTLY what your talking about! I'll make sure we try the "rocket engine" technique on the next supra you can afford. Oh wait... I'm sorry... they don't let 12 year-olds drive where you live.
all u guys are dumb cunts and should stop talking.
do you even know what a 2jz is? do your research please before you speak. you could throw a rocket at that engine and it still wouldnt have a scratch on it. turbo surges are quite normal with big end turbos. might not be ideal but it isnt gonna fuk up like some crappy sr20 lol.
hahahaha "you could throw a rocket at that engine and it still wouldnt have a scratch on it" HAHAHA damn thats funny. all i know is that a 2jz is the 2nd generation of the 1jz am i correct? and it is/was the fastest v6 engine on an import? and the 2jz has a unique ROAR to it hehe
Yeah its such an old argument.. regardless my Trust T78 has never had a BOV on up to 20psi for the last 3 years.. and the turbo's in great bearing tolerances and doesnt blow smoke.. go figure.
LockysJZ 2 months ago
For those complaining about surge..... this kind of surge is FINE.
if you really learn how to read compressor maps, the other kind of surge, when the turbo is fully spooled, under load at a given RPM point, is what blows turbos, not by having a BOV too strong or not having one at all.....
damn noobs
rotor13 6 months ago
Anybody knows who bult this engine, or what have been done to it.
Lovas38 6 months ago
who cares about compressor surge, what happens if it blows the turbo? Buy a new one
ylreddagnof 9 months ago
light compressor surge might not but not letting the turbo get eny oil would shorten its life
jordonosbak690 9 months ago
money
lordofsalem81994 9 months ago
I like surging sound, and many people prefer to have light surge for sound...It wont harm....
drifts500 10 months ago
Well boys, it is still running, so couldt be that bad for the turbo :-)
Lovas38 10 months ago
have fun paying for a new turbo
jordonosbak690 11 months ago
I get comp surge unless i hit 10 psi. My supra doesn't make power unless it has load so I cannot trigger comp surge or BOV without the car moving. I hate how ppl can rev their vehicle and their BOV goes off, that's sick.
tienshenhan86 1 year ago
@tienshenhan86 I dont know much, but maybe you could try loosening your BOV spring?
4gclipseGT 1 year ago
@4gclipseGT loosened it all the way, it's old but even my other one had the same results, ganna go synapsis, I hear they are among the best.
tienshenhan86 1 year ago
@tienshenhan86 I heard the tial Q bov is pretty awesome too.
4gclipseGT 1 year ago
@tienshenhan86 yo dude i am having the same problem with my sr20det red top i just got a greddy type rz bov and it doesnt go off until i build up pressure in the hotpipe ive ran it with all different settings and still no avail...
S13240sxUser 8 months ago
@S13240sxUser I figured it out, I had the bov connected on the charge/intercooler pipes instead of on a source from the manifold BEHIND the throttle butterfly. Use a source right off the throttle body/intake or T one off and it will be night and day!
tienshenhan86 8 months ago
sweet love the sound
skibb19 1 year ago
This has been flagged as spam show
try this clip: Powercruise Dyno Shootout GAS2JZ Goes Bang.0001wmv
gregmiranda1 1 year ago
NICE BAD AZZZ RIDE MAN
RACERSVTSCMODDED 1 year ago
ddddddaaaaaaaaaammmmm look at that engine bay what i wouldnt give to have my supra looking like that
boostnallday 2 years ago
@boostnallday
I am happy with it thanks :-)
Lovas38 2 years ago
fuken music to my ears :D
tofulenny 2 years ago 3
THAT IS A BAD AZZZZZZZZZ SOUNDED
SVTSCMODDED 2 years ago 3
Well you can not se in video, but there is a bow.
But those who installed all the vacum hoses in japan, didnt know what they were doing.
Dont have any compressor surge anymore.
Lovas38 2 years ago
sounds like you got some compressure surge
wilsonhill12 2 years ago
Looks like it has a nitrus injection port!
Phyco38 2 years ago
It's funny to see how little people know about turbocharging. He is only getting surge because he hasn't built enough boost for the blow off valve to actuate. This is common on all mid to large frame turbochargers.
Safetypin6010 2 years ago 33
@Safetypin6010 an extra softer blow off will solve this?
Nismoke 2 years ago
@Nismoke Then it wouldn't hold the boost he wants it to. It's usually a compromise
95GST16g 2 years ago
@95GST16g oky thanks.if your blow off is soft and small hole for the pressure you load your engine but you still have good pressure... when you let off the throttle will that surge appear?as the blow off cant handle the boost?
Nismoke 2 years ago
I'm not sure what scenario your presenting but look up how a BOV works and what it looks like inside, it will help you understand many situations. The spring inside is what we're talking about when we say "soft" or "hard." Its the preload to keep the BOV closed at partial throttle and such, as well as hold more boost. Softer spring = release at lower boosts but wont hold higher boost.
95GST16g 1 year ago
@95GST16g thanks for the info man.i know that.but.i have stock bov on my bpu.i run it at 14 psi and it surges at 4500rpm and not after that.hows that possible.thats my scenario
Nismoke 1 year ago
@Safetypin6010 exactly, it's just a flutter.
AbhLafiel 1 year ago
Does it actually not hav a BOV, or is it just running a DV?
terraflata 2 years ago
as imported by jm-imports from japan to the uk to denmark
sarahmlovesjohne 2 years ago
you fucking dickheads light compressor surge like that is not going to kill the turbo
blandruff 2 years ago 27
okay when you get a turbo then lets see how long you last before you either a. realize that compressor surge is not a good thing and get a bov, or B. fuck over your turbo.
noobdrummer69 2 years ago
@blandruff its not a fucking compreser surge the BOV is opening to late
a71jaS 1 year ago
@a71jaS you fucking moron BOV's dont flutter like that stick with your your ricer ass hondas dumb ass
blandruff 1 year ago
@blandruff fuck u asshole i own a black 1996 toyota supra
i would know dick
a71jaS 1 year ago
@a71jaS then you should know the difference between compressor surge and BOV you fucking turd burglar
blandruff 1 year ago
@blandruff uhhh. no... That IS compressor surge. A little bit like that isnt going to kill a turbo though.
originaldriver 1 year ago
@a71jaS you sir are a moron... that is definately compressor surge... I get it when I haven't built up enough boost on my GT3540 and I'm currently not even running a BOV.
IitachiI 10 months ago
@blandruff
thats not surge, its stall. surge only comes on "load".
HornieCow 5 months ago in playlist SUPRA 2JZGTE
some people use to say bov are for ricer . pfft . tink again
yagam1 2 years ago
everyone is so worried about this turbo surging itself to death....
i have the same turbo on my FD RX-7 with a Tial BOV.... it will still surge, the T04 like of HKS turbos has a very different compressor map than that of other T04 family turbos from any other company. the HKS T04's inherently surge.
this surge is typical of any small frame turbo that flows lots of CFM, which the HKS' TO4 family does.
rotor13 2 years ago 3
Wooooah! Compressor surge FTW :P
rmk550 2 years ago
To: globalautojp!
Is the car stock apart from the singel conversion?
There must be some new camshafts as well?
Where are your spec on the car?
AntonyTrickrider 2 years ago
wuaaah fuck!...you need bov!
surlograsp 3 years ago
No, no he doesn't.
Heimlichkeit180 3 years ago
can you not hear the bov?
harris19863 2 years ago
-.-*
listen 16 seconds. WERE IS THE BOV?! ever heard of compressor surge?! SHOW ME THE BOV ON THE PIPE!!! WHERE IS IT?!
...and if there's no bov to swallow the pressure, it goes backwards to the turbo and sounds like this!...so be quiet if you haven't any knows! -.-*
surlograsp 2 years ago 4
its probly ideally closest to the throttle body which is just off camera
TXmatrix2nr 2 years ago
throttle body is in the shot, you can clearly see it function, this guy just opted for no bov, which is a shame because hes gonna destroy that beautiful turbo
supradave9 2 years ago
dude u are an idiot. go read another panzy car mag. learn ur shit b4 posting it.
redmechaneer 2 years ago
that pipe you can see that connects to the face of the yurbo is the Inlet=no pressure.
thats why u cant see a bov dick
redmechaneer 2 years ago
@surlograsp Well, there is a bov :-)
Lovas38 1 year ago
also: look up on page 3 of these comments!!! THEY WROTE ALREADY THAT IT SURGES!!!! AND IT DESTROYS THE TURBO!!! THERE IS NOOOO BOV!!!...so shut the fuck up!! -.-
surlograsp 2 years ago 2
lol yes it destroys the turbo...
argirce 2 years ago 2
Wow.. I didn't even know that... So if you don't have a BOV, it could actually cause damage to the turbo!?? I'm getting a Do Luck Supra RZ in about two weeks... I should study up a bit more on it lol
ca12bon 2 years ago
yeah. if you have no bov, the air comes back to the compressor wheel with a lot of pressure. it can demage the turbo.
surlograsp 2 years ago
toyotA DIID MAKE A AWD CAR IT WUS THE GT4 CELICA IM NOT LIEING JUST GOOGLE IT NICE SUPRA SOUND MEAN
davidherne352 3 years ago
yeah it the one they used for rally race lol
cheesepuffpk 3 years ago
No it was production model turbo AWD 3SGTE. I think it was the ST205 Celica chassis. Its the Celica GT4 or the Alltrack depending on what part of the world youre in
TXmatrix2nr 2 years ago
2jz is the best 6 inline engine ever made ...... supras own
anoboss 3 years ago 2
stage 3 mines r34 skyline
Coixxman 3 years ago
I go for mines r34
Coixxman 3 years ago
Well it still runs great.
Bought this car
Lovas38 3 years ago
u cannot compare a 2jz with a sr20...sr20s are the lil retarded sisters of nissan...the rb engines are the high end makes from nissan. and the 2jz even shits on all that. its a shame toyota never made a AWD car because 9/10 a Skyline would destroy a supra based on the fact that it puts that power to the road better. 2jz will always be a better engine....just a shit drivetrain.
ctnotts if you only knew what i drove lol....
heatl0rd 3 years ago
not exactly. . .
Jonathanowns 3 years ago 2
actually for the most part he's right. This is from an sr20 owner and die hard nissan fan.
the 2jz block is a better design, then that of the rb26. but RB's have set records all over the world so there's no shame in rockin one.
Nissan is amazing... and so is toyota.
dothedamnthang2 3 years ago
that is true to a certain point but depends on the area in which a 2j supra faces off a rb26 gtr.. on the highway a 2j will still pwn awd gtrs but off the lights from 0-100 gtr will pwn
Harthorn 3 years ago
2jz are the toughest straight 6 engines to come out of the japan. they can run 400rwkw and still run factory internals.....surge on big turbos is normal and natural.....due to the fact that they flow so much air not all of it gets expelled, which ultimately sends it back throguh the turbo causing surge.
heatl0rd 3 years ago
O.k. heatl0rd... I'll back down, you know EXACTLY what your talking about! I'll make sure we try the "rocket engine" technique on the next supra you can afford. Oh wait... I'm sorry... they don't let 12 year-olds drive where you live.
ctnotts 3 years ago
all u guys are dumb cunts and should stop talking.
do you even know what a 2jz is? do your research please before you speak. you could throw a rocket at that engine and it still wouldnt have a scratch on it. turbo surges are quite normal with big end turbos. might not be ideal but it isnt gonna fuk up like some crappy sr20 lol.
heatl0rd 3 years ago
hahahaha "you could throw a rocket at that engine and it still wouldnt have a scratch on it" HAHAHA damn thats funny. all i know is that a 2jz is the 2nd generation of the 1jz am i correct? and it is/was the fastest v6 engine on an import? and the 2jz has a unique ROAR to it hehe
dietaryfiber15 3 years ago
ok you dn't know anything lol
phatlary 3 years ago
jk, the 2jz=LONG LIVE THE STRAIGHT 6
dietaryfiber15 3 years ago 3
apparently not... That shit is surging like crazy.
100mgbluepill 3 years ago
Yeah hes a mooron! My brother fuckd up his SR20det engine like that to!
PEIN303 3 years ago
Dude you gonna fuck up your motor with those turbo surges! It would be a shame!
PEIN303 3 years ago
i think if he had that much money into his motor he would have thought of the turbo surge..
koji187 3 years ago