I moved from Pompey 6 years ago and going back now the city centre is awful, they need a new shopping centre badly, they ruined cascades by removing the centre piece food court and the shops are now awful and cheap. Back in the 90's it was full of decent shops. Pretty sad really, the council have never been any good.
Whole video is infuriating. History repeating itself. In the 60's all Victorian buildings had to go, in the 80s and 90s all Art Deco buildings had to go. And now? You would not question demolishing buildings from either period. The same here. Disgusting really. I feel unbelievably sorry for Owen Luder.
It had a certain charm when viewed from afar but it had got into a really bad state. I used to go there in the 1990s and there were a few interesting shops but inside it wasn't so great, there were lots of dark tunnels and the shops were isolated from each other and some had water dripping through the ceilings. Sometimes rats would run across the paths. It was right to get rid of it because it'd decayed too far.
wow, people really hated that building o-o I would have loved to see the inside. Brutalist buildings always have the most interesting layouts and decor.
I lived in Fareham for a few years (1999 - 2002) and walked through that place quite a few times. Sorry, but it was a dump. And just a bit creepy too if I remember right.
all they done was knocked it down , put the concrete into trucks and built the next of pompeys eyesores that tower, in thirty or fourty years when thats all skanky and grey theyll be talking of whats next.
It's a shame this building came down but I suppose it was inevitable. My fondest memory of it would be going to the Monster Mania indoor play area for a birthday party when I was about 7 years old.
First bid for pieces of the Tricorn Centre going at 50p.Anyone?Anyone at all?No?Oh well.The BullRing shopping Centre went the same way along with many other buildings from the 60s that spread across the uk.
Brutalist architecture is a funny thing. I admit, its ugly and the Trellick Tower is a depressing looking building especially in the depths of winter but the thing that I always liked about it was that it had character unlike the vast majority of other buildings
I wonder how much of the developers cash went to Barbera Thompson. Shallow credit funded greed, when the cash runs out the developers get cold feet and run. The same story that killed the Tricorn - it opened as the 1970's credit burst took hold you got a deserted shopping centre and all the social problems. When the credit recession takes hold in 2010/11, we will see plenty of deserted super new developments and centres turning out like the Tri-Corn did.
@madbeatz aparrently the carpark is to raise the needed money to actually buid it cause they ralised they didnt have the funds. Although i think that the council just want to pocket the money.
I used to have to park in it regularly in the 90s. It was alright arriving in the daylight when there were lots of people about but bloody frightening going to get the car in the evening when it was quiet and dark. Always felt that someone was going to do me in and no-one would be any the wiser till the next morning. And it was ugly and impractical.
It'll be interesting see when (if ever) anything is ever put in its place.
Live in Portsmouth used that carpark a couple of times felt dodgey as hell leaving the car and walking through that.. always looking over shoulder lol. But it's a shame its just a flat carpark now... they should of made a multi story like the one at the back of portsmouth & southsea police station instead
@Gilesfly I can't stand politicians like that, "a phoenix from the ashes" and I believe the Tricorn is now a parking lot, hardly inspring. I'm from Manchester and I've been to Portsmouth numerous times and its definitely one of my favourite British cities. Its quite a pleasant city if you ask me, Gunwharf Quays and the warships are great too. Rest assured, its definitely not a toilet
I live in Pompey. The tricorn was grey concrete, austere, threatening, smelt of piss, a muggers paradise, the ugliest bit of architecture I've ever seen (eastern block style). The people who wanted saved as a listed building to represent the 60's are misguided. It would still be a shit heap in 100 years time.
What on earth are you talking about - the thing was a dismal failure... I think many of you could never have seen it! Disgusting dehumanising pile of crap with shabby so called markets... impractical parking... falling apart for decades... 'Apartments' - don't make me laugh - who would you hate so much to condemn them to live in that?!
If you love it so much build one in your town and see how you get on!
did anyone ever live in the flats. This was part of the post war utopia period when everything was being built from concrete. Problem with concrete is it weathers and tends to look like someones been pissing on it for 40 years. Buildings from this era were in the main a huge failure all over the world, the former soviet union is full of them. One that wasnt so bad was the barbican in london.
the tricorn should be here now. i can remember i used to walk through it and used to go in the lift to the top floor of the car park. I can even remember being at the entrance to the flats at one stage. but no they had to knock it down. WHAT A SHAME!!!!!
It wasn't the fault of the architect that the Tricorn was a mess in its twilight years, or the contractors that built it. It is the fault of the Portsmouth folk who vandalized and neglected it. They destroyed a one-of-a-kind building. There was no other like it in the world.
I agree with the argument that if it was built in London, it would have had a better chance of being used as a public building; just look the National Theatre and the Barbican. A beautiful building.
its nice to hear the views of you london type's? however being a child in portsmouth and walking through the tricorn a number of times you would have a different opinion, hurridly walking through the blacked out walkways knowing someone is probabaly jacking up on the other side of the chipboard! it had numerous stains of blood from the voilence that went on in there, yes it was a fantastic peice of architecure... in 1966, wake up its 2009, you menopausal old bags!
I thought it was a fantastic building, a prime example of brutalist architecture. The only reason why it got knocked down was becauase it had no maintenance for 55 years like it's architect said. If it was stuck in the middle of london, i bet it would still be here and looked nicely upon. Instead, stupid unimaginative people of Portsmouth want some cool,super glass structure thing full of high street shops because they are closed minded about true architecture.
The Tricorn was horrible! Ugly, gloomy, full of fourth rate shops and dripping damp, and it was truly hideous architecture. Glass is certainly preferable: it's a lot more modern, but far more importantly it is more aesthetic. The tricorn probably got no maintenance for very good reason: it's a terrible place to shop and the majority of people hated it.
As for high street shops: In 2004 John Lewis announced that it will take a position on the former site of The Tricorn Centre.
The Tricorn centre WAS an eyesore, a commercial failure & occupied space near Portsmouth town centre that could be used more productively with another, more modern building.
I'm all for retaining iconic buildings, or good examples of distinctive building styles. But what could be learned from the Tricorn, other than a warning to future architects? I only saw it once in the 80s - and it was a dirty, uncomfortable complex then. God knows what it was like ~25 years later.
@Virus288 I agree i actually miss this building and the fact that there was more of an " open market feel " going on around it ... i remember going to granny's the nightclub there ... good times !!
haha how funny were those people shouting "come on down...the price is right". i loved the tricorn and CPK93, not all "chavs" are bad, it is just how the media portray them to be.
Shame it had to go, an Owen Luder classic and a period of our history we havent been able to conserve for others. I can't say Portsmouth looks any better for not having it either!
I remember parking up the top of that with my brother years ago and it was all iced up and we pushed sum cars side ways dont know what they thought when they got back to there cars and they was about 2" away from each other
if it was a good design it would still be there but it was simply too big and too fucking ugly!
A lot of architects protested against it coming down saying it could have been painted white or cladded in something which would have probably made a huge difference.
It won awards in its day... the design is pretty awful though. The overall design just doesnt work, there is no focal point to it, just a load of random blocks.
7 years later... nothing. The site is a big flat car park
duncantoms 1 month ago
I moved from Pompey 6 years ago and going back now the city centre is awful, they need a new shopping centre badly, they ruined cascades by removing the centre piece food court and the shops are now awful and cheap. Back in the 90's it was full of decent shops. Pretty sad really, the council have never been any good.
SimonSW19 2 months ago
The phoenix rose to a flat and featureless car park. Shame to get rid of the Tricorn.
jaymyer57 2 months ago
Whole video is infuriating. History repeating itself. In the 60's all Victorian buildings had to go, in the 80s and 90s all Art Deco buildings had to go. And now? You would not question demolishing buildings from either period. The same here. Disgusting really. I feel unbelievably sorry for Owen Luder.
Rydo182 2 months ago
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I loved this building. The original "tricorn shopcentre" sign is being auctioned on 7th Dec at Nesbits of Portsmouth.
ryan172100 4 months ago
It had a certain charm when viewed from afar but it had got into a really bad state. I used to go there in the 1990s and there were a few interesting shops but inside it wasn't so great, there were lots of dark tunnels and the shops were isolated from each other and some had water dripping through the ceilings. Sometimes rats would run across the paths. It was right to get rid of it because it'd decayed too far.
bsam20uk 6 months ago
wow, people really hated that building o-o I would have loved to see the inside. Brutalist buildings always have the most interesting layouts and decor.
gravijiga 7 months ago
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well it is still a car park
youngnobbles 7 months ago
well it is still a car park
youngnobbles 7 months ago
I lived in Fareham for a few years (1999 - 2002) and walked through that place quite a few times. Sorry, but it was a dump. And just a bit creepy too if I remember right.
Bubo25 9 months ago
it was an awful building and dreadfully designed.
i lived there. Bad light-layout- smelt as it was neither open or shut to the elements so rain could not wash it. So ugly. Children deserve better..
hoggmascall 10 months ago
all they done was knocked it down , put the concrete into trucks and built the next of pompeys eyesores that tower, in thirty or fourty years when thats all skanky and grey theyll be talking of whats next.
andyunderwoodify 11 months ago
It's a shame this building came down but I suppose it was inevitable. My fondest memory of it would be going to the Monster Mania indoor play area for a birthday party when I was about 7 years old.
nutcase170489 1 year ago
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It was demolished for a new shopping centre but it's now just a flat carpark behind The Cascades. Hmm, that's Portsmouth for you!
kellyjo70 1 year ago
It was demolished for a new shopping centre but it's now just a flat carpark behing The Cascades. Hmm, that's Portsmouth for you!
kellyjo70 1 year ago
I wish the tricorn is here today.
youngnobbles 1 year ago
First bid for pieces of the Tricorn Centre going at 50p.Anyone?Anyone at all?No?Oh well.The BullRing shopping Centre went the same way along with many other buildings from the 60s that spread across the uk.
Pulpedtoafiction31 1 year ago
Brutalist architecture is a funny thing. I admit, its ugly and the Trellick Tower is a depressing looking building especially in the depths of winter but the thing that I always liked about it was that it had character unlike the vast majority of other buildings
mancity1000 1 year ago 2
I wonder how much of the developers cash went to Barbera Thompson. Shallow credit funded greed, when the cash runs out the developers get cold feet and run. The same story that killed the Tricorn - it opened as the 1970's credit burst took hold you got a deserted shopping centre and all the social problems. When the credit recession takes hold in 2010/11, we will see plenty of deserted super new developments and centres turning out like the Tri-Corn did.
mondyboy81 1 year ago
Mistake to knock it down! Could have been designed to be something so good.
hessy 1 year ago
they said thatt it was gonna bee summink new butt all i see now is a fat carpark, grate...............
madbeatz 1 year ago
@madbeatz Yeah I know, gonna say the same thing.
Kris393 1 year ago
@madbeatz aparrently the carpark is to raise the needed money to actually buid it cause they ralised they didnt have the funds. Although i think that the council just want to pocket the money.
llpalm08 1 year ago
1:51 - what a load of nonsense, the area is still a car park.
trigga1uk 2 years ago
fucking hell i wonder what happend to fred dineage
bnpdronfield 2 years ago
I used to have to park in it regularly in the 90s. It was alright arriving in the daylight when there were lots of people about but bloody frightening going to get the car in the evening when it was quiet and dark. Always felt that someone was going to do me in and no-one would be any the wiser till the next morning. And it was ugly and impractical.
It'll be interesting see when (if ever) anything is ever put in its place.
BigM1703 2 years ago
And yes... "about a year", that car park has been there for five years!
Nogli 2 years ago
Oddly enough, the bridge bit behind the reporter is still there, complete with graffiti saying "COME IN AND JOIN THE PARTY".
Nogli 2 years ago
@Nogli It also has graffiti saying "WARNING! THIS ITEM MAY PROVOKE INTEREST!"
bigcleav 1 year ago
Live in Portsmouth used that carpark a couple of times felt dodgey as hell leaving the car and walking through that.. always looking over shoulder lol. But it's a shame its just a flat carpark now... they should of made a multi story like the one at the back of portsmouth & southsea police station instead
wickedmental 2 years ago
A city centre to be proud of. A phoenix from the ashes. God that woman talks crap. Pompey city centre is a toilet with or without the tricorn.
Gilesfly 2 years ago
A dangerous toilet at that.
Furrowbrow 2 years ago
@Gilesfly I can't stand politicians like that, "a phoenix from the ashes" and I believe the Tricorn is now a parking lot, hardly inspring. I'm from Manchester and I've been to Portsmouth numerous times and its definitely one of my favourite British cities. Its quite a pleasant city if you ask me, Gunwharf Quays and the warships are great too. Rest assured, its definitely not a toilet
mancity1000 1 year ago
New devolpment!? bullshit its a fucking car park
ryanevans00 2 years ago
I live in Pompey. The tricorn was grey concrete, austere, threatening, smelt of piss, a muggers paradise, the ugliest bit of architecture I've ever seen (eastern block style). The people who wanted saved as a listed building to represent the 60's are misguided. It would still be a shit heap in 100 years time.
pete1201 2 years ago
What on earth are you talking about - the thing was a dismal failure... I think many of you could never have seen it! Disgusting dehumanising pile of crap with shabby so called markets... impractical parking... falling apart for decades... 'Apartments' - don't make me laugh - who would you hate so much to condemn them to live in that?!
If you love it so much build one in your town and see how you get on!
I'd have loved to swing a demolition ball at it.
DmanEyes 2 years ago
did anyone ever live in the flats. This was part of the post war utopia period when everything was being built from concrete. Problem with concrete is it weathers and tends to look like someones been pissing on it for 40 years. Buildings from this era were in the main a huge failure all over the world, the former soviet union is full of them. One that wasnt so bad was the barbican in london.
trigga1uk 2 years ago
the tricorn should be here now. i can remember i used to walk through it and used to go in the lift to the top floor of the car park. I can even remember being at the entrance to the flats at one stage. but no they had to knock it down. WHAT A SHAME!!!!!
youngnobbles 2 years ago
l used to go shopping there yrs ago loved the market
tinypuppies3 2 years ago
I lived round the corner from it. It was a disaster. It was falling down already (by itself) and was full of junkies and tramps.
weffew 2 years ago
It wasn't the fault of the architect that the Tricorn was a mess in its twilight years, or the contractors that built it. It is the fault of the Portsmouth folk who vandalized and neglected it. They destroyed a one-of-a-kind building. There was no other like it in the world.
I agree with the argument that if it was built in London, it would have had a better chance of being used as a public building; just look the National Theatre and the Barbican. A beautiful building.
053bss 3 years ago
its nice to hear the views of you london type's? however being a child in portsmouth and walking through the tricorn a number of times you would have a different opinion, hurridly walking through the blacked out walkways knowing someone is probabaly jacking up on the other side of the chipboard! it had numerous stains of blood from the voilence that went on in there, yes it was a fantastic peice of architecure... in 1966, wake up its 2009, you menopausal old bags!
matteeu 3 years ago
I thought it was a fantastic building, a prime example of brutalist architecture. The only reason why it got knocked down was becauase it had no maintenance for 55 years like it's architect said. If it was stuck in the middle of london, i bet it would still be here and looked nicely upon. Instead, stupid unimaginative people of Portsmouth want some cool,super glass structure thing full of high street shops because they are closed minded about true architecture.
Virus288 3 years ago 8
The Tricorn was horrible! Ugly, gloomy, full of fourth rate shops and dripping damp, and it was truly hideous architecture. Glass is certainly preferable: it's a lot more modern, but far more importantly it is more aesthetic. The tricorn probably got no maintenance for very good reason: it's a terrible place to shop and the majority of people hated it.
As for high street shops: In 2004 John Lewis announced that it will take a position on the former site of The Tricorn Centre.
VIVA JOHN LEWIS!!
mysteriousmartian 3 years ago
@Virus288
The Tricorn centre WAS an eyesore, a commercial failure & occupied space near Portsmouth town centre that could be used more productively with another, more modern building.
I'm all for retaining iconic buildings, or good examples of distinctive building styles. But what could be learned from the Tricorn, other than a warning to future architects? I only saw it once in the 80s - and it was a dirty, uncomfortable complex then. God knows what it was like ~25 years later.
nick987789 1 year ago
@Virus288 I agree i actually miss this building and the fact that there was more of an " open market feel " going on around it ... i remember going to granny's the nightclub there ... good times !!
1Gsxrider 1 year ago
haha how funny were those people shouting "come on down...the price is right". i loved the tricorn and CPK93, not all "chavs" are bad, it is just how the media portray them to be.
657CitySickness 3 years ago
This could have been renevated. Damned shame.
StuntManPliskin 3 years ago 4
Shame it had to go, an Owen Luder classic and a period of our history we havent been able to conserve for others. I can't say Portsmouth looks any better for not having it either!
mondyboy81 3 years ago
I remember parking up the top of that with my brother years ago and it was all iced up and we pushed sum cars side ways dont know what they thought when they got back to there cars and they was about 2" away from each other
L200RTB 4 years ago
if it was a good design it would still be there but it was simply too big and too fucking ugly!
A lot of architects protested against it coming down saying it could have been painted white or cladded in something which would have probably made a huge difference.
It won awards in its day... the design is pretty awful though. The overall design just doesnt work, there is no focal point to it, just a load of random blocks.
Anyway im glad to see it go,
i could design something better.
Duck1985 4 years ago
remember my nan takin me to tricorn market in the square inside tricorn when i was about7 or 8. sad to see it go
pompeywayne657 4 years ago
old skool skating spot and the red in southsea
Shebus 4 years ago
Haha
As a current student im holding them to that 2007-2008 rebirth!
noodlemasta 4 years ago
remember monster mania?
tishnoo 4 years ago
yes yes yes yes yes!!! Monster Mania rocked
canadaonly2 4 years ago
hell yes haha had a birthday party there and i ordered chicken nuggets but they gave me a burger instead
38735736576574687466 4 years ago
And Monster Mania was awesome. I had a couple of birthday parties there. It was finding an old tape of one of them that made me look up the Tricorn.
Nogli 2 years ago
Huh what happened to the great plans eh? Its just a car park made out of tarmac now!
sandym37 4 years ago
I used to work here, shop here and drink here. sorry to see it go.
PompeyChris71 4 years ago
i remember parking in that car park with my mum when i was like 6 and stuff. with the yellow cash barrier box thing at the top! good video!
sveny7 5 years ago
Hah, this brings back memories of skateboarding down the corkscrew ramps. Was about the only good use for it :)
whiteb89 5 years ago
How nice of you putting all the videos together!well done, great job!
presariou 5 years ago
Tricorn old memory to me as a kid but it was in very bad condition and had to go!
callmewilson 5 years ago
A great little collection of clips. The Tricorn's sister up here in Gateshead looks to be heading the same way and it's such a shame!
RobJames1971 5 years ago