StarCraft 2 - IdrA [Z] vs Jinro [T] G2 - Commentary

[atvking]

Not liking the arrow keys either... Kinda painful on the eyes....

[TheRune3400]

I don't like the arrow keys movement - The mouse movement felt more intuitive - as if I was playing myself

[Periculo8910]

prefer it this way. thanks for uploading this epic match btw.

[luljan]

LOL FAKE IDRA? gg rofl

[georules]

I like the key camera work better.

[Gyozomroka]

I don't know how to beat terran when they play like this

[masonashlock]

Tonight's movie is "Brokeback Mining Station" followed by "Night of the Zerg IV"

[Gabberz123]

@ForceSC2strategy

I like the idea of using the keyboard a lot, but not in the way you seem to be using it. Don't use it to follow units around, if you wanna do that, either hold down the spacebar, or click the button to "follow unit" (can't remember what the default is).

I feel like if you sped up the speed of the keyboard scroll, you'd use it more in fights etc instead of still relying on the jerky mouse

[PoppieXL]

I kind of got use to and hardly notice the nuse / camera **jerking** style movement.

To be honest I prefer either or, when ever i watch these commentaries its easy to get into it while listening to your play by play .. only a qq'ing nitpicker would pickaway at such tibbit stuff.

Keep on doign which ever style that works best for you, all the qq'ers can either adapt or move on

[iggyman91]

Holy shit Idra said "gg" THIS ISN'T RIGHT

[yuning727]

wait did idra call gg? 0.o

[frankdoyle]

Like the scrolling force, looks more professional

[rythmjc3]

I like the new scrollings, good job :)

[icodanaheim]

hey force, try using the arrow keys for the camera, alot easier

[balzzyjuice]

Great job on the camera movement Force, it is so much smoother now and not as choppy. Keep up the great commentaries man!

[kiwibuddy]

Jinro can't win without cheesing. I'm not a big fan of Idra but this is just low.

[ZenZa]

@kiwibuddy Do you even know what cheese means?

[kiwibuddy]

@ZenZa Watch both game 2 and 3. In game 2, Jinro cuts scv production to make 5 early marines and bunker (although he failed and won with legit slow methodological push in end). Game 3 is a whole different story though. Jinro does 2 rax into 3 bunker. Yes, it's called cheesing since he had the intent to cheese in game 2.

[ZenZa]

@kiwibuddy You made me rewatch the beginning and I didn't see any cut to SCV production. Unless you mean when the orbital was going up, in which case SCVs can't even be produced. I would not call a 1 rax bunker harass "cheese" or even "intent to cheese." I mean, you can't just let a zerg go 15 hatch and drone up without any type of harass to force ling production or stop mining. Game 3 = Cheese, no argument there.

[FireEmblem3]

I believe your "fluent moving" is too frequent. It should be only seen in very important engagements.

[tobadulose8888]

@FireEmblem3 i 2nd that

[shwaaank]

love the smooth scrolling very relaxing to watch

[paoxjus]

@04:55 look at the Hellion driver's face while staring death eye-to-eye! :D

[NickNickSC2]

very nice with smooth scrolling! but maybe it should be a little bit faster.

[brophdefection]

like the smoothing mouse, it's kinda like a movie then ;)

[tunecci]

force revolutionizing SC2 casting with dat dere mouse scroll camera brahs

[KhannKlan]

Smooth scrolling is nice.

Keep it up Force!

[basseAEG]

I like middle-mouse-button-scrolling.

[NoobQQMoar]

+1 to your camera work.....give me a diablo 3 beta key......DO IT!

[Menega007]

Smooth scrolling is good,but I really don't mind any diference

[GRedz3r]

I'm a big fan of the smoother scrolling

[TheWoWRevelation]

shizz boy when did marines get this deadly? :P

[rythmjc3]

@TheWoWRevelation Since day 1 lol :P

[hellomynameisZEN]

Support for the smooth panning. Who says esports can't have good cinematics?

[KalbiKing]

what's up with the "oh wow idra gg'd. it's a fake idra" etc etc? CLEARLY idra has been mannering up the past few months. whether that was enforced by his team or he decided not to be starcraft's bad boy is irrelevant. and to the idiot saying it's boring to watch idra play: LOL. he's easily one of the best macro-ers in sc2. it's fucking awe-inspiring watching him build his army so quickly. if you can't appreciate how well he can do a fundamental skill in sc2, shut up.

[Oliwav]

wow, 'gg' from ldra... he must be sick or something

[myprottosskickass]

Ctrl f would be way smoother if that is the correct way to.follow a unit or ctrl f4

[ObservableFiction]

@myprottosskickass alt-f4 is nice too

[Vitus17]

Force, if you select a unit and press Ctrl+Shift+F or click on its portrait then the camera will follow the unit across the battlefield. Saves you doing it with the scrollwheel.

[ahhmunky]

AUNTIE SPOILER SAYS "DON'T SCROLL DOWN"

[MrHorologistHohoho]

Why did Jinro place the bunker within view of idra hatchery instead of hiding it?

[Elarrion]

I'm so baffled that Idra said gg! :P

[ChuckFinleytube]

definitely loving the mouse scrolling.

[GinToYura]

problem, cheese muta massing zerg?

[Origitalus]

What did you say at the final battle? "Pushing with those Phoenix and Banelings"? :D

[cook1tj]

smooth camera is good.  Very nice.

[NiTheGod]

smoother camera thing is better

[Flaza54]

i like the camera movements, a lot more smooth but if you bump up the sensitivity a bit, because it's rather slow

[MadBagOfHorses]

Really cool to see Idra being outplayed and not being a douche about it.

Was kinda hard to watch game 1, herp derp make more mutas... Kinda glad Jinro caught his gosu timing in this one.

Great camera works Force, there is now only 1 thing I've seen another caster do that goes above and beyond your casting: AskJoshy's PiP coverage of harass while viewing other engagements in the main view.

I don't expect anything... but would worship you as a god if this were to occur.

[otiting123]

10: minute. video. hmmm...

[AnonymousKdub]

Your movement of the screen is super effective. Well done executor.

[sorellla]

I like the scrolling with the keyboard. ty 4 ur hard work

[zipzapzupify]

$5000 says idra goes muta ling next match

[engelteir]

he didnt just quit, he said gg... he was actually quite good about losing this game. i didnt see any BM problems this game. others yes. but not this one.

[josecarlosamador]

I don't know what's with everyone trolling at Idra. He has one of the best mutalisk + zerglin micro and is, without a doubt, one of the most experienced players out there.

IDRA MARRY ME!

[unknownsilant]

That wasnt Idra... he called "GG"; Idra would never do that on a lose

[agyrophobe]

Idra just won IEM and you are still casting these shit games from the group stages? wtf force. Cast the finals and semifinals

[zipzapzupify]

@agyrophobe YEAH MAN WTF GIVE US FREE CONTENT SO WE CAN GET MAD AT YOU. shut up idiot let him do what he wants

[kashnigahbaruda]

idra sucks mans

[SoniStreet]

You should use the follow command they do in GSL too, it might be a bit hard to perfect at the start because you still need to scroll a bit manually. You should also have the scrolling to 40%

[xMO74x]

The new soft scroll mouse micro is swell :)

[HKPolice]

Idra game under 15mins = always a loss

[lnclincoln]

idra alwasy quits haha, every fucking game i watch him play he loses... fucking faggot. stop broadcasting his games.

[Jakespeare909]

@lnclincoln

not sure if trolling or just stupid...

[lnclincoln]

@Jakespeare909 He so many games. Why broad cast someone that just quit's. This should be entertaining.

[SHSAllStar25]

@lnclincoln

yes, he so many games.

[allehx852]

@lnclincoln Still doesn't deny the fact that he's one of the very best players of SC2.

[lnclincoln]

@allehx852 hes good but not entertaining cause he QQ's

[allehx852]

@lnclincoln True that, but I find the games he win quite entertaining. ;)

[allehx852]

@lnclincoln Also, Idra has a 75% win rate in GM league, don't say he lose all the time. That's much better than most players have. I guess you only watch the games where he lose.

[lnclincoln]

@allehx852 I didnt mean to say he loses alot, I meant to say he isn't entertaining because he doesn't play out his games. He act's like a sore loser. No one likes to watch that. If you are broadcasting a game it should be ones that are fun. Idra may be good but he is not fun to watch. He is the Serena Williams of SC2.

[materchef808]

@Jakespeare909 or both

[materchef808]

Idra is the most overrated player ever...of all time

[urmadrelastnite]

@materchef808 Right!?! Everyone talks about how great he is, and he seems to win tournaments often, but watching his replays makes me think that Idra actually sucks, a lot, and just gets lucky. So many players that are actually better but without tourny wins squash Idra constantly on ladder or in showmatches.

[materchef808]

@urmadrelastnite glad somebody agrees

[icodanaheim]

@materchef808 most overrated? also the best player in the world, most prize money won of any Gamer on the globe. very overrated huh?

[finaldestination3337]

@Jakespeare909 its fail trolling from a stupid person

[josecarlosamador]

@lnclincoln Does anyway even broadcast a game of yours? Just saying...

[lnclincoln]

@josecarlosamador I don't need to broadcast a game to have an opinion. Do you need to be a politician to vote?

[hithur]

@lnclincoln your an idiot....the terran was far ahead at that point, there would be no point in playing. idra is one of the better foreign players out there, maybe you should watch his stream to get a better understanding of how much he actually owns.

[lnclincoln]

@hithur He is a sore loser. That is my point.

[DaTrixL96]

@lnclincoln Of course, you haven't raged in your life - ever. derp.

[lnclincoln]

@DaTrixL96 Yea maybe a few times here and there, but doing it every game is non sense

[DaTrixL96]

@lnclincoln He doesn't rage every game. Hell I would rage too if every person i play against cheese.

[hithur]

@lnclincoln how is he a sore loser for saying gg and leaving......

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[Jumazor]

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[wonderpope]

TONIGHT's MOVIE: brokeback miningstation! :D

[TheWoWRevelation]

@wonderpope shit you know what? I'd watch that lol!

[driftingwolf0]

@wonderpope when rock isnt the only thing getting drilled lol and now im disgusted with myself

[wonderpope]

@driftingwolf0 or: what will scvs do once the mineral patch is depleted? :D

[kaleren222]

sick micro idra gj u won

[kaleren222]

idra won

[Zermalm]

I like the smooth camera scrollin'!

[imSorrym8]

:D

[ringjak]

Well, nothing going on over here. May as well post something!