The thing I don't get, is Spock goes back in time again and again to save earth but two spocks just sit around and do nothing to save their mom and home planet even though it wasn't supposed to be blown up... I agree it was lame. Also DS9 is the best of all the series, you should watch it!
Aye man scottie shoul dhave been eatin a roll n sausage weh a bottle a irnbru maan, poor kicking aboot with the 3 addidas stripes on his uniform no liek the jakey hitech uniform all the jakeys are kickin about in, Limmy mate one thing for you, DISH!
My opinion: Trekkies ruined Star Trek forever, and that's why they had to reboot the bloody thing. Otherwise Star Trek would have continued its slow descent into obscurity. I think the movie breathed much needed live into the franchise.
I see what your saying. But the way I think of it is that the original Star Trek universe is still going on. This film simply created an alternate universe, a completely different universe. However the old universe that we're all familier with is still going on. Just look at Star Trek Online. Star Trek Online is the original universe continuing on. I think it's better to look at it that way.
@pupbenny Technically, though, none of the events of "Star Trek Online" should even be happening, because there's nothing for them to occur in. What I mean is, I'm beginning to strongly suspect that the "supernova" that destroys Romulus in the film was actually supposed to be the Big Crunch. In other words, it was the literal collapse of the universe itself! (Which shouldn't be happening for unknown trillions of years anyway.)
@Scifimaster92 (Cont.) While this is undoubtedly a rather flimsy, pathetic excuse for rebooting the series, it's actually quite fitting and symbolic of the film as a whole, seeing that, as one reviewer pointed out, Abrams is exactly the kind of person who, upon discovering there was nothing new or worthy for him to add, decided to destroy what was already there.
@Scifimaster92 I guess so. But as you said it shouldn't be happening and Star Trek Online exists so.... yeah. I'm just going to look at it my way as it's a more possitive way of looking at it.
@pupbenny Actually, I personally classify the new film as a separate work of fiction, completely unrelated to the rest of the series. This means, for example, that in my fanfiction, the planet Romulus is still intact as of the year 2448.
Star Trek was a good popcorn movie. But because the current movie business is all about playing safe someone thought 'hey, lets reboot star trek, we have a ready-made audience!'. Its cynical. And it hurts real fans. The entire movie business is full of sequels/reboots and I know if my favourite movies (the Alien trilogy) were remade with PG stickers and shitty crap in them 'for da kids' I would be livid.
But original Spock is in it. So it did happen, you just have to think of the film as happenning after everything else in the Star Trek universe. It just means that all the previous series and films that you love so much have been reduced to one character. Who is well old and probably likely to die soon. That make you feel better?
this is important news, paramount are going to have to recall so many box sets and dvd collections becuase people have proof, man, people have proof that the gamesters of triskellion happened, but it didnae, bit it DID, or that Spock did put his own brain back in with the help of mccoy, THAT HAPPENED, but theyll say it didnae, once they get their proof back that is, it might mean that the series enterprise didnt happen - bonus!
I thought that the film was actually quite good (other than the fact that they never once said "Beam me up Scottie") . But then I saw this video and realised that this film has just erradicated everything that us, the fans, had enjoyed and supported with our bad steriotypes. I mean Captain Piccard; gone, Captain Janeway; gone, Data;gone and everyone on Deepspace 9; gone (although, the world probably is better without Deepspace 9). This whole situation is just utterly rediculous.
They never said "Beam me up Scotty" in the original series either.
Not once. That's like complaining that Captain Kirk didn't start air guitaring on the helm console or delivering his Captain's logs in iambic pentameter like he did all the time in the original series.
Not sure if you understand the concept of this movie. All the original series stuff exists, just in a different timeline. Frankly, I think Paramount had already killed StarTrek way before this movie. The last good one was First Contact. After that they did nothing original or new to keep it a viable franchise for a new generation (pun intended). The show "Enterprise" was a flawed idea from day one, and was utter crap. I thought the new movie was really good, and it revived the franchise.
The original voyage of the Enterprise was 5 years. The original series lasted 3 years. So you have all this time that missions could have happened between the old shows, and the 2 years after the show ended. Not counting if they we're relaunched after the 5 years. So this prequel could have just been a continuation of the original mission. Everyone knows who these characters are by now, all they had to do was just do a mission in those lost years.
If it helps there is a Doctor Noonien Soong from the Enterprise days suck away somewhere building robots. His grandson (or whoever) will end up building Data who as we all know fixes everything so perhaps this universe will crash and burn in order to save the actual universe that you and I know and love.
It's a big leap but I'm not losing Darmok and Jalad at Tenagra for Jabrahms,
I didn't care for the movie either. However watching this video, I realized one thing, there is no real way to fix the time line. They have set this whole thing up with the Romulan's coming from the future that there is no way to fix it, and set the fims back into the prime time line. Don't be to bumbed Limmy, the original stuff still exists, and is still considered the main stream (or Prime) universe for Star Trek. Just ignore the new shit if you don't like it, I do.
Don't think anyone's seriously taking the latest film as cannon anyway. JJ Abrams openly admits he doesn't even like Star Trek or get it. What do you expect. I still watch TNG to this day. Quality. Btw when I do a Scottish accent I model it on yours, is yours a good Scottish accent? :P
you see this movie was not made for you nerds. it was made for the mainstream audience and it made star trek cool. without this movie star trek would have stayed dead
he's exactly whit the scottish tv and film industry needs. He actually geez a fuck. Kin yae no tell. Instead, we've gote baw bags who wullnae cum oot their trailer unless the ham and egg is in a fuckin mortons roll. Sincere and funny. The essence of Glasgow. Bring the noise!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just hope he's no gote North Face slippers.
So far, half way through it, I don't know if Limmy's playing the part of the intelligently retentive, or he's a guy who just gets pissed off at responsible people not doing their jobs properly.
But come on, even in the world of fiction, at least GET IT RIGHT.
Fiction's important. Subconsciously we all adhere to it cos we aren't robots...
I totally agree with ya with the Back to the Future analogy.
I'd go one step further by saying this was only Trek by name...it lacked the entire spirit that Trek had (at least until Roddenberry's death). This is coming from a hardcore Trek fan since the first film was released around Christmas of 79.
I don't consider it canon either. The time travel plot is pointless and contrived (not to mention absurdly confusing), the villain sucked (they ruined the Romulans) and so much material is copied straight from earlier films. Nero and his starship are the same as Shinzon and the Scimitar in Nemesis. Plus his motivation makes no sense. It's a really badly written and conceived movie.
Mibbe they've done it so they can go an fix it in the next film. Mibbe it'll take a load o fixin and that'll gie them a good run o new films that we can look forward to :)
Well of course the reason they did this is because they didn't want to just make a film, they want a new franchise with a big fan-base pre-attached, and this is their way to reboot it. Not a big Trek fan, but regardless this is a pretty shameless excuse to continue milking a franchise ad infinitum.
Abrahms is a slimy like that. You just have to imagine that it has absolutely nothing to do with the television shows. It's like a the Tim Burton Batman movies versus the Chris Nolan ones.
Alternate timeline, sure. Original Star Trek aside, what I can't understand is why everyone loved 'Star Trek', when in reality, just by itself as a self contained movie, it made no sense. Red matter? They flew into a black hole? What kind of BS is that? It was Star Trek: The Action Movie. It was a pointless romp in a mutilated ST universe for a backdrop, half of which seemed to much like Star Wars anyways. And it completely avoid all the stuff that real Star Trek was about.
true. also the clone wars cartoons are not star wars cannon in my humble opinion...the star wars live action movies, sure , but not the cartoon series...
Great review! It's not just that they erased Star Trek, it's that they did it without being bothered or realizing it- alternate reality doesn't count when you base a new franchise off it. I wasn't a Batman fan, and I loved Batman Begins, but I know some who didn't, who feel the same way I do about ST. Stepping back, I know the movie was really excellent, but it succeeded by "wiping the slate clean," which was their claimed intent, and which is very disrespectful to everything that came before
It could be that the movie was 'all a dream' - but maybe it was a dream Kirk had in the original series - or Mock Spock will discover that planets can have dreams and it was Vulcan having a big mad nightmare.
Voyager never happened anyway. At the end they go back to tell the original crew that they need to do things differently.
At this point i lost all respect for it, because if its own universe isn't even real in the show, then whats the point. I just watched the movie for effects.
Good point with the last 40 years thing, its totally mental they'd wipe their own story they've spent all that time building up.
the hole point of ruining time time line which i think was very clever is now that when you watch films you dont know if the characters are going to survive which puts drama back into films.if they go to a planet in second film and time line was unchanged you would know only red shirts where going to die. apart from that great review love the passion but remember "ITS ONLY A FILM"
hey limmy i actually love you! me& my auntie are from glasgow and we love you! big fans :D some people dont find you funny but just daft we laugh all night we love john paul in botanic gardens and dee dee oan the bus
In the current understanding of quantum physics (I'm up-to-date 2006) states that all possible time lines exist at once but we can only view one of them so the whole back the the future analogy is a bit bunk.
The story ruins certain portions of Star Trek. For example, Kirk becomes captain of the Enterprise much sooner than he did in the original series. Also, several semi-important Star Fleet ships, such as the Farragut. The biggest thing it does is destroy the planet of Vulcan.
So, in the future of Star Trek, I think the worst thing it does is possibly get rid of Tuvok from Voyager, and worsen Romulan relations. But on the whole, not much would really change imo.
They should have tried a fresh sequel with no links to DS9, Voyager etc. To just redo the original series in a 'alternate reality' is kind of silly. Come up with your OWN characters guys
It's a new start. don't look at it as the star trek you grew up with has been wiped out or changed. look at it like an entirely new movie. like batman & robin to batman begins. choose which one you like better and thats it. but you shouldnt just hate this one because you hate change :/
Even better William Shatner was in a star wars movie that bashed star trek and there fans which are you guys. Go figure. Star wars for life yeah baby. Jj Abrams rocks. Hahahahahahaah
Star Wars is just a little fairy tale for kids with cute and not so cute creatures and a bunch of spec effect it is totally inconsequential Star Trek on the other hand meant to be inspiring and it is if it is indeed Star Trek which this stupid new movie is NOT it's for the average brainless Star Wars fanboy suffering from ADD
Your all abunch of loser babies its called a movie not real life he didnt ruin anything for you seeing how you had nothing to begin with. Settle down. Its called a reboot bro. You know so they can take it to a new level. If they wanted to make it the same it would be a remake. Also its funny how your all die hard fans and Leonard nemoy wasnt botherd by it in the least bit. In fact he was a part of all of your pain that is this movie.
i agree. this was more like a starwars film than star trek. they have messed it up big time. i have heard that they are thinking of bringing khan into the second. dont they have any orginal ideas.
I agree. There was not a single creator from the previous startrek series/movies involved in this new one.They pretty much said "We dont like this storyline so lets make our own!" So they killed everybit of startrek history i've know.
Gene Roddenberry is probably spinning in his grave right now.
PS. Star Trek DS9 is deffinatly worth watching so i would highly recomend it
@DarkKnightAlpha What ever. Gene Roddenberry sold out his own creation before season 3 of TOS. He was all about money. He sold his rights to it after it was canceled. Soon as it got popular in syndication, he decided he was some God and took credit for everything even though many important themes of ST were created by the writers and actors. He had very little to do with ST, barely serving as an "adviser" for some of the movies. I'll give him credit for ST:TNG series.
know why Abrams made a new timeline for the film? because the swine was never a fan of the franchise, instead he was a star wars loyalist and us core trek fans just got bamboozled cause JJ 'weasel' Abrams just sold us to fucking George 'I have no new ideas' Lucas!! Don't believe me? News just came out that Abrams snuck R2 D2 into one of the battle scene in star trek xi where R2 is floating on the screen.
Hiring JJ et al. to direct a Star Trek project is like hiring Karl Rove to Chair the DNC... like hiring the Boston Red Sox manager to draft players for the NY Yankees... like hiring the Pope to edit Playboy Magazine.
It's an alternate universe. More specifically Spock has somehow used Red Matter to go back in time (by accident) to the past of an alternate universe at the time (or round abouts) of the original series. Convenient eh?
An extremely informative and valuable contribution to an issue of pressing importance to ALL HUMANITY and proof that Limmy's intellectual credentials place him at he very forefront of the world's great philosophers.
Remember, this is an alternate universe. Both world and timelines exist, so you don't have to replace your favorite characters with the new version of themselves. Just think of them as another series within the whole covering umbrella of the whole fandom.T_T
I'll forgive you though, since you look kind of like Thom Yorke.XD
Gotta agree with you limmy, as a stand alone film it wasnt bad at all, but i spent most of the movie trying to figure out how they were gonna reset the timeline.
Vulcan a far too important planet in the history of the franchise to be wiped out completely. They gotta fix this in the next movie or the whole thing is fucked.
haha Limmy, I so wish I had your accent.. it's better than my Yarkshire one.. Class.. good one mate.. I kinda agree with you on the review... cept that they didn't erase the original series, cos the bad guy destroyed vulcan AFTER voyager and all that.. not before.. he went BACK in time and destroyed it.. but he went BACK AFTER it had happened.. .. so it still all happened..
They will sort out the Star Trek timeline in the next movie, so ne t'inquiete pas. Man, I am unfamiliar with your accent - in your French video, I thought you were speaking French! Gooniverse? What is that? Like ebonics for white people!
Yeah... I totally agree with you, Limmy. Love how you dismissed all the usual stuff people talk about right at the start. You're a man that knows what's relevent!
Even if we were to say that the star trek we love still exists, only in a different timeline, the film has removed the focus from that timeline completely and brought us to theirs - and you're right - i fear them taking it any further.
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i really can't enjoy alot of limmy's videos cause he stops and starts and stutters and he's so itty bitty that i find it really hard to follow. he has a few that i like but most of them i find so boring.
@kemantian i really can't enjoy alot of kemantian's comments cause he stops and starts and stutters and he's so itty bitty that i find it really hard to follow. he has a few that i like but most of them i find so boring.
You can be thankful that because it was set before TOS, Enterprise hasn't been pulled off the timeline! So you can still happily get bored to fucking tears watching it knowing that it's still proper canon.
You said it all man.I could not enjoy the reruns for a while until I said the same,"It just didn't happen!".Now I block out the movie in my head so I can still enjoy the REAL Star Trek.Fuck Abrams and all the people he disrespected. Thank you for your review.
?? yes the time line was fubard but if u noticed kirk n spock didnt get on initially, after gettin through the film n beatin the bad guys etc spock n kirk become friends which is the start of the star trek timeline...
I just realized, since they changed TOS (AND RUINED IT) they'll probably ruin TNG, DS9, VOY, and even TAS in the same way. Not to mention everything that was Star Trek is now DEAD. Thanks alot paramount, may you die a slow and excruciating death.
The yank cartoon makers are runnin out of ideas limmy . Hence why they have to remake films etc from the past . Its fuckin easy money n the idea is already on the plate for them to work with . Sad thing is we're fuckin daft enough to go out n watch it . Yankee films are one load of shite . Plus the people who get paid good (great) money to act in them are a bunch o fuckin arswipes . KEEP YUR PISHY FILMS YA SHOWER A FANNYS !!!
I think you should be carefull with saying in your review because it implys your review didnae happen either which would be a shame because it means the last hilarious 7.22 minutes of my life didnae happen which is a bit disconcerting like the feeling after shiting in incontenance pants. It didnae happen.
Pity it never happened with your timeline...... You talk some shite If you were in Star Trek you would have ben one of them who gets hit with a fried egg thing that falls from the ceiling...
surely something had to be good before it got ruined naw? are you implying that star trek was actually decent at one point limmy? if so why make such a claim?
Who cares about the timeline? The movies was a lame action flick. What Star Trek needed was a Batman Begins, what it got was Die Hard 5. Star Trek was great because it was all about ideas and the beauty of space. Lost is great because it is all about suspense and character development. This movie is just about explosions and silly Freudian cliches about fathers, mothers, authority and cop show themes like the maverick vs. the by-the-book guy. Yawn. This won't bring ME back to the franchise.
J.J. never really saw the series. This is just a way for them to make money of something that gives them money. When ppl make remakes or prequels, it's because they don't have any new ideas or they need cash. But in this case they also wanted fame. If an actor is in a movie like this one. They get to got to places and sign things, you know. And don't worry, sooner or later somebody(ies) are/is going to fix all shit that has occurred. But over all, it was an OK movie, not the one that ppl love.
I was under the impression that the alternative timeline jazz was just a ploy by the old Spock to convince the young Kirk not to mention it to the young Spock - and that was the revelation given by the two Spocks talking to each other at the end.
The Vulcan planet was blown up, but the old Spock had found another planet for a Vulcan colony, making another Vulcan planet...
No, this is a new timeline, and the old timeline, i.e. everything we loved about Star Trek, is now irrelevant and pish and we've to not think about it anymore.
The canon is still intact my friend. All of the events of past Trek had to have happened to old Spock to get him to the point that created the events in the new film. J.J. said the time traveling plot was a way to tie the new film with the old series. As you said it is now an alternate time line, but it is also an alternate universe (remember "Mirror Mirror") with a new future, & at the same time a direct continuation of the other universe & time line. Could mean an original cast crossover too.
lol - Mirror, Mirror was an alt universe about barbarism vs egalitarianism. I just cant imagine an alternative universe where it's goofy vs not so goofy.
That's really what this Star Trek was - TOTALLY undisciplined and GOOFY
Also, think about it, if the Romulans no longer exist the Klingons (who the romulans held in check) would have taken over everything
And I just couldn't wrap my mind around the Spock - Ohura romance. But then I had trouble with the Spock - Nurse Chapel NON-romance
@WhackyWookiee in mirror mirror the universe isnt intact after Mccoy fucks up the future hence why kirk and company have to go clean up his mess unfortuantly the mess JJ abrams did can not be cleaned up.
ST:E screwed up quite a bit with the timeline, but hey...I watched that as well.
The fact is, it's just a film franchise. I'm a fan of all the shows, but I don't wear the bloody costumes. Of course the episodes happened...I have them on DVD :)
The fact is, I'm simply happy there is SOME new Star Trek out there. I'm interested in what direction the new film will take it.
As far as canon, I don't really care. There are many more problems between all the series besides the new movie.
Suck it up! All the series we have watched over the years still happend because the Older Spok lived through them. Think about it, everything that has happend in Next Generation Voyager and Deep Space 9 STILL exist but in an alternate time line and Older Spok is a testement to that. Something like this hasnt really been done before (Dallas doesnt count coz its utter gash) and breathes life back into the Star Trek Universe... The film was Grand, just wonder whats gonna happen next...
You're exhibiting a lack of imagination. It's all fiction, none of it ever happened. This is new fiction; to look at it cynically, to breathe life into the franchise; optimistically, to tell new stories to new people.
Loosen your grip. You'll be ranting on behalf of the Daily Mail in no time.
PS. To make this less black and white, I'm a big fan; sketch on the swing in the pilot was a beezer!
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"This isn't official Star Trek cannon"
What the fuck kind of argument is that? This isn't the first time time travel has happened in official cannon and the possibility of a new timeline has also been a threat. It changes everything but who cares? This is the consequence of going back into time. This is more probable than going back in time and returning to present with the time line intact. I just don't get you fucking cry babies. The new movie kicked ass and the ones to come will too.
That makes no sense. Despite the change in the time line, it's still going to take a long time to go out far enough into space to cross paths with the borg. Perhaps a little less time because they have Spock (prime)'s knowledge of advanced technologies but still, don;t expect to see the borg anytime soon.
You're absolutely right. The writers & fans of this movie will tell you that the whole "alternate reality" thing PRESERVES the TOS timeline and starts a new additional one, but that's bull. They've made a newer, DUMBER Star Trek that is meant to replace the original in the minds of most people.
Yes, those of us who love the original series will always have what went before, but officially (and in the hearts and minds of the new fanbase) all that went before is now trashed. Thanks, idiot writers.
The Star Trek Primeline is still just as relevant. I know there are those who will watch this film and that's it, but I brought a friend of mine to this film who had never seen Star Trek before. He understood that this was an alternate reality, but he went home later and did his research. He watched the original series and loved it for what it is. This new film has brought us Trekkies back and it is also bringing in new people. Not all of them will be like my friend, but some will.
Unfortunately, it brought people to an action popcorn movie called Star Trek. Someone who has watched this movie will not enjoy the original t.v. show.
umm..im pretty sure all my friends are trekkies now...jus from watching this movie. you can't have a 2 hour episode, it would be boring as hell. episodes can pull it off cuz its only 50 mins. movies have to be entertaining because they are 2 hours. and it didn't lack much from what, lets say the wrath of khan had.
ps all my friends are trekkies now, im a die hard trekkie...this movie saved the franchise. sry the movie didnt appeal to the geek image.
Well, it is simple, I see a lot of ppl that actually enjoyed this movie begging by saying, "I'm not a treky, but the movie was great" this movie was NOT Targeted to star trek fans, because like u said they totally disregarded the star trek storyline. you can tell just by the science in this movie this ppl weren't even thinking about the ST audience at all, a super nova threatens the entire galaxy? LOL u fucking kidding me? like saying a grenade going off in NY threatens LA, LMFAO
Thankyou, um yeah, I was just wondering, you know just want to ask this question, am quite surprised it hasnt came up during the debate so far considering its about start wars. Does the panel think that as far as special effects, acting and staying true to the star wars story goes that it was um a good film, even though that um the new timeline thing messed it up for you?
Going into the film, I was wondering how the filmmakers were going to create any suspense when we know that none of the main characters can die. The new timeline was necessary to create suspense. Now, characters we know we care about --because we know their potential - their lives are as fragile as they were at the beginning.
Funny review, I did feel a bit like this but then the writers have said this is a separate universe from the Prime Universe as we all know, therefore all the stuff that has happened still has in the other reality, only that Romulus has been destroyed and Spock is missing. So its all cool ;)
This film creates a new timeline, I know that it doesn't destroy the prime timeline, but it makes all the original stuff that we know and love alternative.
Whenever there's been a Star Trek episode where an alternative timeline version of the crew are killed, you don't care, because they're alternative, they're not your concern.
This film puts the originals into the category of "uncareable", if you like.
The thing I don't get, is Spock goes back in time again and again to save earth but two spocks just sit around and do nothing to save their mom and home planet even though it wasn't supposed to be blown up... I agree it was lame. Also DS9 is the best of all the series, you should watch it!
DarExc 2 weeks ago
It seems like Limmy has misunderstood the film...
imlan123 2 weeks ago
Aye man scottie shoul dhave been eatin a roll n sausage weh a bottle a irnbru maan, poor kicking aboot with the 3 addidas stripes on his uniform no liek the jakey hitech uniform all the jakeys are kickin about in, Limmy mate one thing for you, DISH!
poeira1983 3 weeks ago
Limmy should have played Scotty.
rushhoursoul1 3 weeks ago
a) None of it ever really happened.
b) The old episodes still exist. You can still watch them.
c) If the old time-line didn't still exist, where does Old Spock come from?
lazlowolf 1 month ago
My opinion: Trekkies ruined Star Trek forever, and that's why they had to reboot the bloody thing. Otherwise Star Trek would have continued its slow descent into obscurity. I think the movie breathed much needed live into the franchise.
Ruach 1 month ago
I refer to this movie as "Star Trek: In Name Only", and yes, It sucked Ferengi balls!
Actionguy1 2 months ago
I see what your saying. But the way I think of it is that the original Star Trek universe is still going on. This film simply created an alternate universe, a completely different universe. However the old universe that we're all familier with is still going on. Just look at Star Trek Online. Star Trek Online is the original universe continuing on. I think it's better to look at it that way.
pupbenny 6 months ago
@pupbenny Technically, though, none of the events of "Star Trek Online" should even be happening, because there's nothing for them to occur in. What I mean is, I'm beginning to strongly suspect that the "supernova" that destroys Romulus in the film was actually supposed to be the Big Crunch. In other words, it was the literal collapse of the universe itself! (Which shouldn't be happening for unknown trillions of years anyway.)
Scifimaster92 4 months ago
@Scifimaster92 (Cont.) While this is undoubtedly a rather flimsy, pathetic excuse for rebooting the series, it's actually quite fitting and symbolic of the film as a whole, seeing that, as one reviewer pointed out, Abrams is exactly the kind of person who, upon discovering there was nothing new or worthy for him to add, decided to destroy what was already there.
Scifimaster92 4 months ago
@Scifimaster92 I guess so. But as you said it shouldn't be happening and Star Trek Online exists so.... yeah. I'm just going to look at it my way as it's a more possitive way of looking at it.
pupbenny 4 months ago
@pupbenny Actually, I personally classify the new film as a separate work of fiction, completely unrelated to the rest of the series. This means, for example, that in my fanfiction, the planet Romulus is still intact as of the year 2448.
Scifimaster92 4 months ago
@Scifimaster92 Everyone's got there own opinions.
pupbenny 4 months ago
Awww Limmy you're absolutely lovely :-)
001001110110 9 months ago
"This is ma review of the new Star Trek film: New Star Trek film?! Didnae happen" Limmy's a legend <3
dammyjodger1 11 months ago
Star Trek was a good popcorn movie. But because the current movie business is all about playing safe someone thought 'hey, lets reboot star trek, we have a ready-made audience!'. Its cynical. And it hurts real fans. The entire movie business is full of sequels/reboots and I know if my favourite movies (the Alien trilogy) were remade with PG stickers and shitty crap in them 'for da kids' I would be livid.
Pentdad 11 months ago
But original Spock is in it. So it did happen, you just have to think of the film as happenning after everything else in the Star Trek universe. It just means that all the previous series and films that you love so much have been reduced to one character. Who is well old and probably likely to die soon. That make you feel better?
PaddyMacNasty 11 months ago
this is important news, paramount are going to have to recall so many box sets and dvd collections becuase people have proof, man, people have proof that the gamesters of triskellion happened, but it didnae, bit it DID, or that Spock did put his own brain back in with the help of mccoy, THAT HAPPENED, but theyll say it didnae, once they get their proof back that is, it might mean that the series enterprise didnt happen - bonus!
utrapzab 1 year ago
You said it mate! If it were possible, I'd have your babies! Good on you!!
trekspanner 1 year ago
I thought that the film was actually quite good (other than the fact that they never once said "Beam me up Scottie") . But then I saw this video and realised that this film has just erradicated everything that us, the fans, had enjoyed and supported with our bad steriotypes. I mean Captain Piccard; gone, Captain Janeway; gone, Data;gone and everyone on Deepspace 9; gone (although, the world probably is better without Deepspace 9). This whole situation is just utterly rediculous.
Sindin5 1 year ago
They never said "Beam me up Scotty" in the original series either.
Not once. That's like complaining that Captain Kirk didn't start air guitaring on the helm console or delivering his Captain's logs in iambic pentameter like he did all the time in the original series.
SuperSaiyanAl 11 months ago
Not sure if you understand the concept of this movie. All the original series stuff exists, just in a different timeline. Frankly, I think Paramount had already killed StarTrek way before this movie. The last good one was First Contact. After that they did nothing original or new to keep it a viable franchise for a new generation (pun intended). The show "Enterprise" was a flawed idea from day one, and was utter crap. I thought the new movie was really good, and it revived the franchise.
lonstar70 1 year ago
spot on
custardgannett 1 year ago
The original voyage of the Enterprise was 5 years. The original series lasted 3 years. So you have all this time that missions could have happened between the old shows, and the 2 years after the show ended. Not counting if they we're relaunched after the 5 years. So this prequel could have just been a continuation of the original mission. Everyone knows who these characters are by now, all they had to do was just do a mission in those lost years.
Christina314 1 year ago
They could make 10 movies liek this, then in the 11th one, go back and stop Nero, thereby restoring the original timeline. easy. Piece of piss.
dauntless111 1 year ago
its a reboot mate it cant be the same mate as long as they can bring it back to the motion picture then it should be ok
devilishdan030409 1 year ago
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bwayne641 1 year ago
You gotta have Faith of the Heart, Limmy!
zionravescene 1 year ago
If it helps there is a Doctor Noonien Soong from the Enterprise days suck away somewhere building robots. His grandson (or whoever) will end up building Data who as we all know fixes everything so perhaps this universe will crash and burn in order to save the actual universe that you and I know and love.
It's a big leap but I'm not losing Darmok and Jalad at Tenagra for Jabrahms,
effieboo 1 year ago
I didn't care for the movie either. However watching this video, I realized one thing, there is no real way to fix the time line. They have set this whole thing up with the Romulan's coming from the future that there is no way to fix it, and set the fims back into the prime time line. Don't be to bumbed Limmy, the original stuff still exists, and is still considered the main stream (or Prime) universe for Star Trek. Just ignore the new shit if you don't like it, I do.
McMahonHater 1 year ago
i agree with a lot of whit your saying espec vulcan getn blown up, but i still loved the new film, dont see whats the big ploblem
funkdc 1 year ago
Don't think anyone's seriously taking the latest film as cannon anyway. JJ Abrams openly admits he doesn't even like Star Trek or get it. What do you expect. I still watch TNG to this day. Quality. Btw when I do a Scottish accent I model it on yours, is yours a good Scottish accent? :P
ChristopherDone 1 year ago
you see this movie was not made for you nerds. it was made for the mainstream audience and it made star trek cool. without this movie star trek would have stayed dead
legoindyshortround 1 year ago
@legoindyshortround I bet you thought Phantom Menace was good and that medichlorians were a great addition.
Go kill yourself.
ELREndLondonRule 1 year ago
@ELREndLondonRule lol no i have a life to live for unlike you. how about you kill your self and end that mistake your parents made years ago
legoindyshortround 1 year ago
@legoindyshortround Lol. Big internet tough guy. Watch out for this mad rocket!
ELREndLondonRule 1 year ago
@ELREndLondonRule yeah o my god!!!
legoindyshortround 1 year ago
Ive certainly not added it to my DVD collection and there making a sequel, Oh god hav'nt they done enough damage
sergant11280 1 year ago
he's exactly whit the scottish tv and film industry needs. He actually geez a fuck. Kin yae no tell. Instead, we've gote baw bags who wullnae cum oot their trailer unless the ham and egg is in a fuckin mortons roll. Sincere and funny. The essence of Glasgow. Bring the noise!!!!!!!!!!!!! Just hope he's no gote North Face slippers.
reelreignfilms 1 year ago
So far, half way through it, I don't know if Limmy's playing the part of the intelligently retentive, or he's a guy who just gets pissed off at responsible people not doing their jobs properly.
But come on, even in the world of fiction, at least GET IT RIGHT.
Fiction's important. Subconsciously we all adhere to it cos we aren't robots...
Kelly14UK 1 year ago
I totally agree with ya with the Back to the Future analogy.
I'd go one step further by saying this was only Trek by name...it lacked the entire spirit that Trek had (at least until Roddenberry's death). This is coming from a hardcore Trek fan since the first film was released around Christmas of 79.
WannaBeatle 1 year ago
star trek was kinda gay anyway. the film manned it up a little.
doomincarnate 1 year ago
I don't consider it canon either. The time travel plot is pointless and contrived (not to mention absurdly confusing), the villain sucked (they ruined the Romulans) and so much material is copied straight from earlier films. Nero and his starship are the same as Shinzon and the Scimitar in Nemesis. Plus his motivation makes no sense. It's a really badly written and conceived movie.
Lion2Tiger 1 year ago 5
I couldnt agree more! Its not official canon! Never will be in my book! I own every star trek film and series on DVD, but I will not buy this film!
AWMJoeyjoejoe 1 year ago 2
Mibbe they've done it so they can go an fix it in the next film. Mibbe it'll take a load o fixin and that'll gie them a good run o new films that we can look forward to :)
MaxxB1ade 1 year ago
Well of course the reason they did this is because they didn't want to just make a film, they want a new franchise with a big fan-base pre-attached, and this is their way to reboot it. Not a big Trek fan, but regardless this is a pretty shameless excuse to continue milking a franchise ad infinitum.
Abrahms is a slimy like that. You just have to imagine that it has absolutely nothing to do with the television shows. It's like a the Tim Burton Batman movies versus the Chris Nolan ones.
ReymasofAshborne 1 year ago
Alternate timeline, sure. Original Star Trek aside, what I can't understand is why everyone loved 'Star Trek', when in reality, just by itself as a self contained movie, it made no sense. Red matter? They flew into a black hole? What kind of BS is that? It was Star Trek: The Action Movie. It was a pointless romp in a mutilated ST universe for a backdrop, half of which seemed to much like Star Wars anyways. And it completely avoid all the stuff that real Star Trek was about.
Great accent. :)
JulyForToday 1 year ago 4
true. also the clone wars cartoons are not star wars cannon in my humble opinion...the star wars live action movies, sure , but not the cartoon series...
markantonymcwhorter 1 year ago
Great review! It's not just that they erased Star Trek, it's that they did it without being bothered or realizing it- alternate reality doesn't count when you base a new franchise off it. I wasn't a Batman fan, and I loved Batman Begins, but I know some who didn't, who feel the same way I do about ST. Stepping back, I know the movie was really excellent, but it succeeded by "wiping the slate clean," which was their claimed intent, and which is very disrespectful to everything that came before
cowlizardnj 1 year ago
It could be that the movie was 'all a dream' - but maybe it was a dream Kirk had in the original series - or Mock Spock will discover that planets can have dreams and it was Vulcan having a big mad nightmare.
Diarmollini 1 year ago
Voyager never happened anyway. At the end they go back to tell the original crew that they need to do things differently.
At this point i lost all respect for it, because if its own universe isn't even real in the show, then whats the point. I just watched the movie for effects.
Good point with the last 40 years thing, its totally mental they'd wipe their own story they've spent all that time building up.
RenegadeMaster07 1 year ago
is david limond yer brother ?
TheSimone1000 1 year ago
"new star trek film, dunnae happen" hahahahahahahahahaha
Shotpit6 1 year ago
I'm pretty sure that by changing the timeline they set off in a parallel universe, so the original timeline is unchanged.
Larkspladge 1 year ago
the hole point of ruining time time line which i think was very clever is now that when you watch films you dont know if the characters are going to survive which puts drama back into films.if they go to a planet in second film and time line was unchanged you would know only red shirts where going to die. apart from that great review love the passion but remember "ITS ONLY A FILM"
malkiebrame2007 1 year ago
You'll be pleased to hear that JJ Abrams has signed up for another 2 films.
JorSex 1 year ago
You're right, this Star trek for dummies don't even exist...
And watch DS9 by the way, very dark but great show...
SuperPostman 1 year ago
hey limmy i actually love you! me& my auntie are from glasgow and we love you! big fans :D some people dont find you funny but just daft we laugh all night we love john paul in botanic gardens and dee dee oan the bus
justinbieberx1 1 year ago
In the current understanding of quantum physics (I'm up-to-date 2006) states that all possible time lines exist at once but we can only view one of them so the whole back the the future analogy is a bit bunk.
apollyon1 1 year ago
is this real or is it a joke if it is then i like you better serious great vid
Ebzey 1 year ago
clearly none of you get limmy its all a joke watch again and see the funny side
vicmmakackie 1 year ago
all star trek is complete smeg i dnt like it its all a load of smeg @:L
downaboy 1 year ago
I liked the film. It was entertaining and such, does it matter if its different from the series?
imlan123 1 year ago
totally agree with this video, not to mention these little sods "love" star trek now >.>
mikejw721 1 year ago
one word for this video.....amen
logeybear5150 1 year ago 3
The story ruins certain portions of Star Trek. For example, Kirk becomes captain of the Enterprise much sooner than he did in the original series. Also, several semi-important Star Fleet ships, such as the Farragut. The biggest thing it does is destroy the planet of Vulcan.
So, in the future of Star Trek, I think the worst thing it does is possibly get rid of Tuvok from Voyager, and worsen Romulan relations. But on the whole, not much would really change imo.
wbokunic 1 year ago
i agree with this, although im not a star trek fan, im a Doctor Who fan-if they did it with that id freak!
Limmy-put that on yer show-even new trekkies will agree with ye
mindofmalice2 2 years ago
lol, hilarious. guess I can now sell all my starTrek dvds xD
DepressedSod 2 years ago
"They were in the middle of naewhere." Sums voyager up perfectly!
kevnerx 2 years ago
lol u got a way with words limmy!
if ur ever in shawlands on a sunday night fire over to linen across from the granary,and get ur ass on my open mic!
delboygonemad 2 years ago
They should have tried a fresh sequel with no links to DS9, Voyager etc. To just redo the original series in a 'alternate reality' is kind of silly. Come up with your OWN characters guys
Jack1981ish 2 years ago
All the past ones DID happen, they just happened in an alternate reality to this film xD
Dracilla112 2 years ago
Star Trek's keich anyway.
EddieG1888 2 years ago
I liked the film. That's all.
imlan123 2 years ago
It's a new start. don't look at it as the star trek you grew up with has been wiped out or changed. look at it like an entirely new movie. like batman & robin to batman begins. choose which one you like better and thats it. but you shouldnt just hate this one because you hate change :/
jcabral792 2 years ago
I can hardly understand you but I like you accent
sondano 2 years ago
But that might make you part of the cannon
mebirdo 2 years ago
Maybe it can be in the cannon, with this video as a foreword before anyone can watch it
mebirdo 2 years ago
JJ called the new movie an 'alternate universe' but for the love of god
#1: TNG, DS9, VOY will never have any more movies or TV shows
#2: They've cut back on the books that they'll be putting out - before long there won't be ANY books produced for the 'prime' universe
#3: The whole 'alternate reality' crap was used to appease the fans - or at least make them look stupid because they complain
I'm sorry, but this guy is right - call it a reboot, because that's what it is
2Scribble 2 years ago 3
That wasn't an alternate timeline. I agree. It was a NEW timeline.
Maybe the next movie will open with Spock waking up from the bad dream that was ST:11.
ajcusn 2 years ago
Even better William Shatner was in a star wars movie that bashed star trek and there fans which are you guys. Go figure. Star wars for life yeah baby. Jj Abrams rocks. Hahahahahahaah
Cavedog007 2 years ago
Star Wars is just a little fairy tale for kids with cute and not so cute creatures and a bunch of spec effect it is totally inconsequential Star Trek on the other hand meant to be inspiring and it is if it is indeed Star Trek which this stupid new movie is NOT it's for the average brainless Star Wars fanboy suffering from ADD
sondano 2 years ago
Your all abunch of loser babies its called a movie not real life he didnt ruin anything for you seeing how you had nothing to begin with. Settle down. Its called a reboot bro. You know so they can take it to a new level. If they wanted to make it the same it would be a remake. Also its funny how your all die hard fans and Leonard nemoy wasnt botherd by it in the least bit. In fact he was a part of all of your pain that is this movie.
Cavedog007 2 years ago
i agree. this was more like a starwars film than star trek. they have messed it up big time. i have heard that they are thinking of bringing khan into the second. dont they have any orginal ideas.
chrisc74 2 years ago
I agree. There was not a single creator from the previous startrek series/movies involved in this new one.They pretty much said "We dont like this storyline so lets make our own!" So they killed everybit of startrek history i've know.
Gene Roddenberry is probably spinning in his grave right now.
PS. Star Trek DS9 is deffinatly worth watching so i would highly recomend it
especially the last two seasons.
DarkKnightAlpha 2 years ago 2
@DarkKnightAlpha What ever. Gene Roddenberry sold out his own creation before season 3 of TOS. He was all about money. He sold his rights to it after it was canceled. Soon as it got popular in syndication, he decided he was some God and took credit for everything even though many important themes of ST were created by the writers and actors. He had very little to do with ST, barely serving as an "adviser" for some of the movies. I'll give him credit for ST:TNG series.
lonstar70 1 year ago
know why Abrams made a new timeline for the film? because the swine was never a fan of the franchise, instead he was a star wars loyalist and us core trek fans just got bamboozled cause JJ 'weasel' Abrams just sold us to fucking George 'I have no new ideas' Lucas!! Don't believe me? News just came out that Abrams snuck R2 D2 into one of the battle scene in star trek xi where R2 is floating on the screen.
pacsouljah00 2 years ago 3
Hiring JJ et al. to direct a Star Trek project is like hiring Karl Rove to Chair the DNC... like hiring the Boston Red Sox manager to draft players for the NY Yankees... like hiring the Pope to edit Playboy Magazine.
ajcusn 2 years ago
It's an alternate universe. More specifically Spock has somehow used Red Matter to go back in time (by accident) to the past of an alternate universe at the time (or round abouts) of the original series. Convenient eh?
Jack1981ish 2 years ago
Should we explain to him how time works or leave him in the dark for our amusement?
Raymint 2 years ago
Is he joking? I'm sure he's taking the piss. Limmy, tell us if we should be laughing with you or at you.
Raymint 2 years ago
the original series did happen.
They can't wipe the original series because many (if not all) events in this time line still depend on events from that one having happened :D
SalientBen 2 years ago
An extremely informative and valuable contribution to an issue of pressing importance to ALL HUMANITY and proof that Limmy's intellectual credentials place him at he very forefront of the world's great philosophers.
dimgwalltameiben 2 years ago 2
LOL - FUCKING AWESOME COMMENT!!
Raymint 2 years ago
I think your taking this a bit too seriously...star treks not actually real, its a tv programme.
cgrangers 2 years ago
Remember, this is an alternate universe. Both world and timelines exist, so you don't have to replace your favorite characters with the new version of themselves. Just think of them as another series within the whole covering umbrella of the whole fandom.T_T
I'll forgive you though, since you look kind of like Thom Yorke.XD
ddrluver 2 years ago
Gotta agree with you limmy, as a stand alone film it wasnt bad at all, but i spent most of the movie trying to figure out how they were gonna reset the timeline.
Vulcan a far too important planet in the history of the franchise to be wiped out completely. They gotta fix this in the next movie or the whole thing is fucked.
weejoeham 2 years ago 2
yeah i agree, i though they were going to reset it to at the end but it never happened
DarkKnightAlpha 2 years ago
haha Limmy, I so wish I had your accent.. it's better than my Yarkshire one.. Class.. good one mate.. I kinda agree with you on the review... cept that they didn't erase the original series, cos the bad guy destroyed vulcan AFTER voyager and all that.. not before.. he went BACK in time and destroyed it.. but he went BACK AFTER it had happened.. .. so it still all happened..
bazza0173 2 years ago
They will sort out the Star Trek timeline in the next movie, so ne t'inquiete pas. Man, I am unfamiliar with your accent - in your French video, I thought you were speaking French! Gooniverse? What is that? Like ebonics for white people!
flyguy359 2 years ago
Yeah... I totally agree with you, Limmy. Love how you dismissed all the usual stuff people talk about right at the start. You're a man that knows what's relevent!
Even if we were to say that the star trek we love still exists, only in a different timeline, the film has removed the focus from that timeline completely and brought us to theirs - and you're right - i fear them taking it any further.
Now to watch your other videos!
Happy0 2 years ago
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i really can't enjoy alot of limmy's videos cause he stops and starts and stutters and he's so itty bitty that i find it really hard to follow. he has a few that i like but most of them i find so boring.
sorry to the hardcore fans :P
kemantian 2 years ago
Itty bitty yourself you stutter hating non hardcore fan.
LimmyDotComBlog 2 years ago 47
@LimmyDotComBlog ha gitm told
ryanmul1 1 year ago
well are you scottish? thats part of the thing tha makes the vid funny hes a normal guy its no all scripted
Jsulli001 1 year ago
@LimmyDotComBlog sweet to kno ur a star trek fan!
cleric1888 1 year ago
@LimmyDotComBlog I Feel Your Pain Brother
dwb041 8 months ago
@kemantian snobby cunt
weepaul666 1 year ago
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@kemantian Then why do you watch them.
McMahonHater 1 year ago
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@kemantian i really can't enjoy alot of kemantian's comments cause he stops and starts and stutters and he's so itty bitty that i find it really hard to follow. he has a few that i like but most of them i find so boring.
sorry to the hardcore fans :P
spirakit 1 year ago
It's been months and the pain of the film hasn't faded.
;( Five stars for your video.
ItHurtsWhenISleep 2 years ago 12
I agree with you. This movie was shit.
yucahu81 2 years ago 5
love the way u started that limmy, the turn of the head, fuckin beezer
aidan261 2 years ago 2
You can be thankful that because it was set before TOS, Enterprise hasn't been pulled off the timeline! So you can still happily get bored to fucking tears watching it knowing that it's still proper canon.
richsc21 2 years ago 4
You said it all man.I could not enjoy the reruns for a while until I said the same,"It just didn't happen!".Now I block out the movie in my head so I can still enjoy the REAL Star Trek.Fuck Abrams and all the people he disrespected. Thank you for your review.
vrlmmsre 2 years ago 3
?? yes the time line was fubard but if u noticed kirk n spock didnt get on initially, after gettin through the film n beatin the bad guys etc spock n kirk become friends which is the start of the star trek timeline...
realdull 2 years ago
I just realized, since they changed TOS (AND RUINED IT) they'll probably ruin TNG, DS9, VOY, and even TAS in the same way. Not to mention everything that was Star Trek is now DEAD. Thanks alot paramount, may you die a slow and excruciating death.
Dms12444 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
I thought they were kinda kidding with the accent in Trainspotting. Guess not.
Choose life.
TheHuxley7 2 years ago
lol crackin review
jennivega2001 2 years ago
The yank cartoon makers are runnin out of ideas limmy . Hence why they have to remake films etc from the past . Its fuckin easy money n the idea is already on the plate for them to work with . Sad thing is we're fuckin daft enough to go out n watch it . Yankee films are one load of shite . Plus the people who get paid good (great) money to act in them are a bunch o fuckin arswipes . KEEP YUR PISHY FILMS YA SHOWER A FANNYS !!!
RoggenWolfe 2 years ago
The two leads seem like decent articulate lads-I've seen plenty of interviews. I don't know why you say that.
jacquesjapan 2 years ago
WIT ???????
RoggenWolfe 2 years ago
i went back in time and changed it ower tae Blakes 7. that knackered athing.
A computer in a fish tank! awa!
MM0SMD 2 years ago
Your accent is hilarious. You sound like ari boyland!
CodyJamesBriscoe 2 years ago
WTF I am subcribed to you it nevertold me you ade a new vid!!
wwechamp7 2 years ago
erm there are more sequels to the new film coming out:o
krism0111 2 years ago
I hope the hell not
BeondaPale 2 years ago
I think you should be carefull with saying in your review because it implys your review didnae happen either which would be a shame because it means the last hilarious 7.22 minutes of my life didnae happen which is a bit disconcerting like the feeling after shiting in incontenance pants. It didnae happen.
garryartist 2 years ago
Holy Christ I don' think you have ever looked so genuinely angry.
To be honest, I loved it, I hated the original series so maybe thats why...
bawbag157 2 years ago
Pity it never happened with your timeline...... You talk some shite If you were in Star Trek you would have ben one of them who gets hit with a fried egg thing that falls from the ceiling...
BigCheekyBastard 2 years ago
surely something had to be good before it got ruined naw? are you implying that star trek was actually decent at one point limmy? if so why make such a claim?
jardysgotstyle 2 years ago
Who cares about the timeline? The movies was a lame action flick. What Star Trek needed was a Batman Begins, what it got was Die Hard 5. Star Trek was great because it was all about ideas and the beauty of space. Lost is great because it is all about suspense and character development. This movie is just about explosions and silly Freudian cliches about fathers, mothers, authority and cop show themes like the maverick vs. the by-the-book guy. Yawn. This won't bring ME back to the franchise.
omarkutty 2 years ago
J.J. never really saw the series. This is just a way for them to make money of something that gives them money. When ppl make remakes or prequels, it's because they don't have any new ideas or they need cash. But in this case they also wanted fame. If an actor is in a movie like this one. They get to got to places and sign things, you know. And don't worry, sooner or later somebody(ies) are/is going to fix all shit that has occurred. But over all, it was an OK movie, not the one that ppl love.
Gamebanger1 2 years ago
Say "I kenna duet Captin!"
prisonerofmachines 2 years ago
I was under the impression that the alternative timeline jazz was just a ploy by the old Spock to convince the young Kirk not to mention it to the young Spock - and that was the revelation given by the two Spocks talking to each other at the end.
The Vulcan planet was blown up, but the old Spock had found another planet for a Vulcan colony, making another Vulcan planet...
socksy 2 years ago
No, this is a new timeline, and the old timeline, i.e. everything we loved about Star Trek, is now irrelevant and pish and we've to not think about it anymore.
LimmyDotComBlog 2 years ago
The canon is still intact my friend. All of the events of past Trek had to have happened to old Spock to get him to the point that created the events in the new film. J.J. said the time traveling plot was a way to tie the new film with the old series. As you said it is now an alternate time line, but it is also an alternate universe (remember "Mirror Mirror") with a new future, & at the same time a direct continuation of the other universe & time line. Could mean an original cast crossover too.
WhackyWookiee 2 years ago
No, I'm not having it.
LimmyDotComBlog 2 years ago 5
lol - Mirror, Mirror was an alt universe about barbarism vs egalitarianism. I just cant imagine an alternative universe where it's goofy vs not so goofy.
That's really what this Star Trek was - TOTALLY undisciplined and GOOFY
Also, think about it, if the Romulans no longer exist the Klingons (who the romulans held in check) would have taken over everything
And I just couldn't wrap my mind around the Spock - Ohura romance. But then I had trouble with the Spock - Nurse Chapel NON-romance
BeondaPale 2 years ago
@WhackyWookiee in mirror mirror the universe isnt intact after Mccoy fucks up the future hence why kirk and company have to go clean up his mess unfortuantly the mess JJ abrams did can not be cleaned up.
gondule 1 year ago
@LimmyDotComBlog Not really mate as its a another universe
joelang6126 1 year ago
Nah cos Kirk's dad's still dead. The Spock revelation was that the two Spocks speaking wouldn't screw up space-time.
LivewireOverride 2 years ago
none of it really ever happened...
zeratul1987 2 years ago
ST:E screwed up quite a bit with the timeline, but hey...I watched that as well.
The fact is, it's just a film franchise. I'm a fan of all the shows, but I don't wear the bloody costumes. Of course the episodes happened...I have them on DVD :)
The fact is, I'm simply happy there is SOME new Star Trek out there. I'm interested in what direction the new film will take it.
As far as canon, I don't really care. There are many more problems between all the series besides the new movie.
GangrelLondon 2 years ago
didnt want to see this movie now i have a full fledged reason to say why =D thanks limmy
crazykev176 2 years ago
Suck it up! All the series we have watched over the years still happend because the Older Spok lived through them. Think about it, everything that has happend in Next Generation Voyager and Deep Space 9 STILL exist but in an alternate time line and Older Spok is a testement to that. Something like this hasnt really been done before (Dallas doesnt count coz its utter gash) and breathes life back into the Star Trek Universe... The film was Grand, just wonder whats gonna happen next...
djthe1st 2 years ago
You're exhibiting a lack of imagination. It's all fiction, none of it ever happened. This is new fiction; to look at it cynically, to breathe life into the franchise; optimistically, to tell new stories to new people.
Loosen your grip. You'll be ranting on behalf of the Daily Mail in no time.
PS. To make this less black and white, I'm a big fan; sketch on the swing in the pilot was a beezer!
JamieUnicorn 2 years ago
He could be speaking Klingon for all I know
gmonday 2 years ago
I think the point is to create a new timeline.
It doesn't take away from TOS, and any of the movies.
Everything is RESET, and and it's a chance to do all new things. They can tell brand new stories with all new characters.
17R3W 2 years ago
"It doesn't take away from TOS, and any of the movies."
Yes it does.
LimmyDotComBlog 2 years ago
Best review ever. The only remnant of the original timeline is Spock Prime, who acted really out of character by LETTING THIS STAND.
BBKUS 2 years ago 2
I agree.
LimmyDotComBlog 2 years ago
I think the problem is that they've went to the time travel well one time too many.
It seems like 20% of Star Trek is time travel and I think that's over kill.
17R3W 2 years ago
its a movie..
happosai27 2 years ago
can't understand a word this guy is saying.
ZeroAzrael614 2 years ago
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"This isn't official Star Trek cannon"
What the fuck kind of argument is that? This isn't the first time time travel has happened in official cannon and the possibility of a new timeline has also been a threat. It changes everything but who cares? This is the consequence of going back into time. This is more probable than going back in time and returning to present with the time line intact. I just don't get you fucking cry babies. The new movie kicked ass and the ones to come will too.
bigevasive 2 years ago
Couldnt Agree more!
I felt at the end of the movie that they might as well just make the next movie where the Borg come and assimilate the Federation
woodman19 2 years ago
That makes no sense. Despite the change in the time line, it's still going to take a long time to go out far enough into space to cross paths with the borg. Perhaps a little less time because they have Spock (prime)'s knowledge of advanced technologies but still, don;t expect to see the borg anytime soon.
bigevasive 2 years ago
You're absolutely right. The writers & fans of this movie will tell you that the whole "alternate reality" thing PRESERVES the TOS timeline and starts a new additional one, but that's bull. They've made a newer, DUMBER Star Trek that is meant to replace the original in the minds of most people.
Yes, those of us who love the original series will always have what went before, but officially (and in the hearts and minds of the new fanbase) all that went before is now trashed. Thanks, idiot writers.
johnhazard 2 years ago
The Star Trek Primeline is still just as relevant. I know there are those who will watch this film and that's it, but I brought a friend of mine to this film who had never seen Star Trek before. He understood that this was an alternate reality, but he went home later and did his research. He watched the original series and loved it for what it is. This new film has brought us Trekkies back and it is also bringing in new people. Not all of them will be like my friend, but some will.
LegoFreakPictures 2 years ago
killed star trek? nemesis did that. this movie got ppl back. a shitload of people back. not to mention it destroyed the star trek geek image.
tgbeale 2 years ago
Unfortunately, it brought people to an action popcorn movie called Star Trek. Someone who has watched this movie will not enjoy the original t.v. show.
Trekkie1450 2 years ago
umm..im pretty sure all my friends are trekkies now...jus from watching this movie. you can't have a 2 hour episode, it would be boring as hell. episodes can pull it off cuz its only 50 mins. movies have to be entertaining because they are 2 hours. and it didn't lack much from what, lets say the wrath of khan had.
ps all my friends are trekkies now, im a die hard trekkie...this movie saved the franchise. sry the movie didnt appeal to the geek image.
tgbeale 2 years ago
Well, it is simple, I see a lot of ppl that actually enjoyed this movie begging by saying, "I'm not a treky, but the movie was great" this movie was NOT Targeted to star trek fans, because like u said they totally disregarded the star trek storyline. you can tell just by the science in this movie this ppl weren't even thinking about the ST audience at all, a super nova threatens the entire galaxy? LOL u fucking kidding me? like saying a grenade going off in NY threatens LA, LMFAO
yauguru 2 years ago 3
Thankyou, um yeah, I was just wondering, you know just want to ask this question, am quite surprised it hasnt came up during the debate so far considering its about start wars. Does the panel think that as far as special effects, acting and staying true to the star wars story goes that it was um a good film, even though that um the new timeline thing messed it up for you?
Um yeah and just a yes or no will suffice.
WinstonBurgundy1959 2 years ago
Is there not room in your heart to care about both time lines?
SweetLode 2 years ago
nice handlebars
odonnos 2 years ago
Going into the film, I was wondering how the filmmakers were going to create any suspense when we know that none of the main characters can die. The new timeline was necessary to create suspense. Now, characters we know we care about --because we know their potential - their lives are as fragile as they were at the beginning.
stephenolsen 2 years ago
Good shooting Mr. Scott!!!
214scifi 2 years ago
Funny review, I did feel a bit like this but then the writers have said this is a separate universe from the Prime Universe as we all know, therefore all the stuff that has happened still has in the other reality, only that Romulus has been destroyed and Spock is missing. So its all cool ;)
GeordieDan89 2 years ago
Just to clarify myself...
This film creates a new timeline, I know that it doesn't destroy the prime timeline, but it makes all the original stuff that we know and love alternative.
Whenever there's been a Star Trek episode where an alternative timeline version of the crew are killed, you don't care, because they're alternative, they're not your concern.
This film puts the originals into the category of "uncareable", if you like.
And for that, it can fuck off.
LimmyDotComBlog 2 years ago
The other known 285.000 parallel universes also bother you? :p
LMUli 2 years ago
285 is fine.
LimmyDotComBlog 2 years ago
Great review bro, I don't know ANYTHING to do with Star Trek, but these guys seem to be taking you so seriously! Keep up the good work. :-)
ethansface 2 years ago 3
Thanks.
LimmyDotComBlog 2 years ago