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  • Pantani was a good climber, Ullrich too, Basso yess, but Lance just played with them all. Lance was a way better climber than any of them! If he wanted too, BAM! Shot away from Pantani. Pantani has never ever put Armstrong in trouble! Ullrich has once or twice in 2003 but Ullrich was magic. BUT NONE OF THEM EVEN NEAR LANCE ARMSTRONG! Who gives a fuck about a stage win Lance LET him win? Lance has 22 of them. AND 7 Tour titles. Pantani dont even come close to that at all. Peach

  • @Tohya66 Kelme also, yes. But Armstrong was a natural talent for long distance sports since he was a little kid. His whole life he did amazing things, he blew everyone away on the bike, running, and even swimming! This guy is one out of a million, Pantani better showed some respect!

  • @knorensnor You might be interested in reading an article about endurance genetics in the May 10 issue of Sports Illustrated. Shaq O'Neill is on the cover. It should be archived by now in the SI website. It runs the gamut about nature vs. nurture, etc. And explains why so many great runners--both sprinters and endurance--are African or of African descent. Lance is mentioned as having a fortuitous combination ofgenes for endurance. But it points out that there are many champs with dubious genes

  • @knorensnor Re. Africans: they seem to have stronger genetics for athletics because people have lived in Africa longer than anywhere else and thus there is more genetic variance there. We see the stars, including some amazing long-distance runners, but to be fair there are many klutzy Africans in the population as well.

  • What bothers me is that they go faster up a mountain than I do on the flat

  • pantani was a shame to cycling... it's easy to pick riders who take doping before having proof: pantani, ricco, sella, piepoli,... so easy to see

  • Pantani > Amrstrong

  • I'm glad Armstrong let Pantani have the win. If Pantani had been crawling up the hill, Armstrong would have left him behind, but Pantani kept up the awesome pace that Armstrong needed to feed for the Yellow jersey

  • @MrAmore94 not that he did not deserve it but Armstrong gave it to him and that bothered Pantani.

  • @audible67 Pantani certainly did enough to get a stage win and was very deserving but his ego caused him to be bitter about being "allowed" to win. Marco should have inquired into Tour etiquette which has long been favorable to the sort of "gift" granted by Armstrong. In reality, it was more of an honor and an act of thanks for a great race and creating a time that helped to cement the Yellow Jersey for Lance.

  • @battenwood no shit.

  • Shit, on something? Try and race on coke or anything. You would crack or die like T. Simson. If drugs were used it was not doing the racing. Pre-race prep or something. Let the dopers dope and they will have a very short season, or die trying.

  • I can't see how people can't accept that some people are just really good at something.

  • @hexatron2006 It's called self-loathing. That type of person is seldom very good at anything in particular and resents the crap out of anybody who is truly outstanding.

    Pathetic little weenies, not to be taken seriously or even bothered with.

  • good lord, insane race, need a epo injection just to watch it

  • Lol....Indeed.Not a single clean rider in sight

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  • in a real world armstrong shouldnt have got anywhere near pantani. The guy was the best climber you will ever see anywhere. The accleration by armstrong here is outrageous, on something without a doubt.

  • But Pantani wasn't on something? Come on now.

  • The humiliation of winning this undeservedly killed Pantani.

  • the cocaine helped too

  • agreed.

  • WADA will execute Lance with blood samples in the next days, just as MARCO PANTANI was murdered to suggest use of drugs.

    Like Usain Bolt will be and Floyd Landis or Jan Urllrich were falsely accused, victims of a conspiracy set up by the illuminati, in control of US and EU "governments" and obviously of WADA.

    //\\\///\\///\\\///\ Google

    doping conspiracy Matt MarriottSome goals of the conspiracy are:

    - sell the BIG PHARMA pills

    - terrorize citîzens

    - destroy natural sports (atletics, cycling)

  • You're a madman.

  • Ahaahahahahhahah ha hihi

  • Who cares, everybody used.

  • avsrule27 - I hear what you're saying, but if Armstrong was peeved by Marco not taking time in front, Armstrong, a great rider, just should have taken the stage for himself and let it go at that. The extra mile he went to show bad sportmanship hasn't been his last time - currently his refusal to speak to the press at the Giro is another example, after the Italians were excited by his presence on their tour. It's not just a slap in the face to the organizers because of Milan but to his fans.

  • Armstrong used many substances and he has taked drugs in the french tour in 1999. It's very regretable that he can used drugs in impunity! He has destroy this sport and has robbed Marco and the others cyclists as Virenque and Ullrich.

    I dislike cyclisms since 1999 because the dream have disapeared.

    Marco is the better climber in the cyclism he is still a great champion !

  • chryshna5...you're jonking aren't you....Pantani was found dead from a drug overdose and you're calling LA...the most tested athlete in history, a cheat....get real.!!!!

  • Fuck you man he has never failed a drug test and is so good because he trains his ass off. Dont talk about something you know nothing about.

  • tohya66 grazie per aver difeso pantani, il piu' grande scalatore di sempre. ...armstrong a 20 anni si staccava nei cavalcavia.....dopo volava in salita, come mai? pantani da piccolo ha sempre volato in salita . pantani rispettava molto indurain un vero signore e un grande campione...

  • It's not fair to acuse someone of using dope without proof.

  • alexvino, your mather fucking with horses.

    pantani is better.

    pantani forever.

  • this is two guys doped to the eyebrows.we might as well be watching two lawnmowers climb the mountain.

  • Ofcourse another one.

    Only Pantani is proved, they can't catch Armstrong with 1000 test a year, dont u think he might not have been doped.

    Motherfucker, stop judging before something is proved, and as long as it isnt proved that he doped, he didn't dope.

  • I lost respect for Armstrong during this fiasco. It was a cruel thing to do to another rider -"Hey, I'll let you win, by pulling back, but. of course, I could easily have won." That takes away from anybody's victory given them the sense they really didn't deserve it.

  • He did it because pantani wouldnt work with him did you notice how marco didnt take a turn pulling out front.

  • and why should pantani have done any pace making? clearly armstrong was trying to break him with his constant attacks so in my book it was every man for himself.

  • to say armstrong gave the stage is to me the same as to say pantani won, the only thing I know is that although I'm rooting for Pantani every time I watch this video, the whole race is definitely unmatched full of drama, guts, yea there is always the doping claims on both sides but no one can deny this was incredible.

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  • jrod- Pantani died from a cocaine overdose.

  • he did not live a healthy life toward his end. thats what i meant

  • the three things that Pantani took away from Armostrong forever:

    -Mont Ventoux stage

    -Alpe d'huez's climbing Record

    -the beloved fans around the world

    Karma is a Bitch- isn't it LA? HAHAHAHAHA

  • @hfer

    Actualy its 4 things.

    - Early death thanks to drugs

  • Yeah, but he died of a cocaine overdose.

    Lance Armstrong started a foundation that does research for cancer....

    BIG DIFFERENCE!

  • @hfer Im sure Lance has his own fans!

  • Armsrong wanted pantani to work with him and do his share of the pacemaking. Instead all pantani did was follow like a punk. Armstrong was definitely the stronger climber and he gave pantani the stage win as a gift. LOL

  • why would he give the stage, if he was the better climber did al the work and regrets it 'till today that he never managed to win a stage on mt ventoux. I think its a great attack by armstrong, but weak to claim after the stage that you gave it to the other rider, even when that other rider is the Pirate.

  • Pantani was in the front of the race for the whole day, Armstrong had respect for that fact, and that is why he let Pantani win

  • 2:26: WTF? He's still following me

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