@0501701 because google are not greedy money grabbing people like microsoft, they like to give people choices, and not force their products on people like MS do
@0501701 As a developer I can tell you it's almost impossible to get older people, and I'm not talking senior citizens, I'm talking more like baby boomers and 40 year old folks to ditch their shitty Internet Explorer 6 browsers for modern current ones. In third world countries, also, many companies still use Internet Explorer 6 for their intranets, namely, in China.
I think my internet explorer browser is 07 or 08... Will this change the design of the web (address bar, File Edite View Favorites Tools Help, And Tag) page? Because i haven't had Interenet Explorer 07/08 for even a year and finally got used to it and i don't want it to change again.
@lauren1344 It won't affect the design of Internet Explorer at all - it only changes the part that interprets the design of the websites you view.
Basically what it does is take a terrible browser (Internet Explorer) and give it support for all of the new, modern web technologies. Average users probably don't know or care what these technologies are but basically they allow Web Designers to make much better, faster sites that Internet Explorer cannot display without Chrome Frame.
So i need to force my clients or users to install Google Chrome Frame in thier machine in order to acquire this function right? Did you guys think that will they will do so? Better stay inside Standards instead of asking my users to install some third party plugins just for running my website or app. i dont like loosing visitors. I dont care about this. This is the first time i say Sorry to Google!!!
@najeebputhiyallam I concur. This is just stupid. And who with a sane mind want to develop in yet another standard. When it already is a pain in the ass to fix all problems for IE
@TheUnillogical I am using a computer at the moment that is not mine, I can´t simply install another browser and the owner of the computer understands nothing about informatics, so he won´t let me do anything that he wouldn´t understand, that is NOTHING. So in order to use the websites i am used to, i can install now Chrome Frame. That improves IE A LOT. And even better he will never now I installed it.
@scottgale379 Sorry, Im just feeling the pressure to keep me from the easy direct acces to .flv video files in IE6 cache folder. The else fancy things like "open web technologies" and "rich cutting edge web apps" wich need
"html5 and recent improvements in javascript pefomance" and for wich all the commotion is, are from my sight just excuse for it.
@aellaron IE6 has the slowest rendering engine of any browser, and thus has the highest likelyhood of locking up your browser and making it crash.
All modern browsers cache files.
Java and Flash have nothing to do with Chrome Frame.
Getting rid of IE6 is about making the web faster, easier, and leaner. Even Microsoft wants to get rid of it. It's time. If you are not forced to run IE6, don't drag the whole web community down by running a 10 year old piece of software.
Google Chrome makes my PC to crash, IE6 does not. IE6 allows me to acces the cache files with .flv videos, none of new browswrs does. So why should I trust you with all "new functions" of jawa&flash co. wich are mostly used just for new annoying advertisment methods?
I'm a web developer, and I can't thank Google enough for this. I get nauseas just from listening the words "internet" and "explorer" on the same phrase. Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!
google chrome crush on its had with its V8 javascript
when editing dokuwiki sites :(
google chrome engine still has many bugs.
i am so upset that i used google chrome.
i have typed a full article then it shows an ugly face of a computer and says something kind of your frame cruched and all my creativity was lost in amoment
(compared to ie6)
the bug is probably related to object references to input elements, when docuwiki is automaticaly adds asterisks to textarea and checks where the cursor is
lol Wow what fail first off to even get the frame working which Google don't tell you the frame will not work on any pages at all unless you put cf: at the begenning on the url
This comment has received too many negative votesshow
Perhaps IE8 isnt that bad after all; my web page load speeds on IE8 are almost equal to that of chrome now(with chrome frame), but FF is still lagging behind alot.
Thre's just one... okay, 2 massive problems with Chrome Frame...
You need admin rights to install it.
And by default, IE does not use Chrome Frame, unless you add "cf:" to the beginning of the URL.
The only workaround is to simply install some kinda .reg file.
It is not that difficult for Google to include it themselves, and many web developers probably havn't a clue of that tag thing's existance. So Google, fix it so Chrome Frame works by default, and make an offline installer. Thanks.
You kinda forgot to shave. Don't waste youth trying to look older coz most certainly you'll do the same when older trying to look younger. People think that looks change the way people respect them but if you have the opportunity of "speech" you'll show your value for sure no matter if you're young.
But hey whatever I wrote a whole text and deleted and the feeling is the same even if you'll never read and never know what I wrote just moments ago. Try it out sometime... feels equally great and there's no "pong" from the "ping" sent to receive. Cheers
That's bollocks. Prolly an american thing and their mania of conspiracy theories. There's 7 colors and those upthere have been looking more than good since ever why change that? Because it looks like windows look? Hell not! But it might be good fools thinking of conspiracy because it makes pub of it and it helps to spread the word. Just my opinion.. not to take serious... i'm just another fool and there will come other and other like a cycle. Nice :o) Cheerio
The intention is to allow restricted computers which cannot install new software like browsers, can just install Google Chrome Frame. IE still has a shitload of market share.
@sa1994kimo probably not. Most programmers I know look like a yeti or sasquatch. Hairy bearded tubby dudes, who are brilliant and kind but don't look they can get a girl to go out with them. In fact, the more brilliant they are, the bigger their beards.
As it is..IE6 is the baby that should never have been born. By allowing stubborn IE6 users to "prolong its usage" via this plugin will just perpetuate the crime that is IE6. Furthermore, most corporations that still insist and use IE6, will most likely not approve installation of this plugin. Individuals who still use IE6, will prob not even know this plugin exists. I say, let IE6 die its long overdue death and not prolong it with this plugin.
It works fine, but not great. Installing the plugin comes with some problems.
It uses the webkit engine and the output SHOULD be identical to chrome's output, if you install the plugin and have the meta-tag. I tested it, and the performance increase is noticable. I was like o.0: IE with fluid JS animations :o
it's amazing :D
But not ready... YET. I would like to see the result! keep it going :D
Chrome Frame is good for enterprises since they can still use IE6 for their intranet and not have to deploy a 2nd browser for internet surfing. Of course you lose tabs but most corporations don't want to upgrade their old apps since it's very expensive and time consuming. Eventually they'll upgrade if W7 gets mass business adoption.
I think the issue is installing it on an organisation's systems- most companies prefer not to let people at their systems without paying them a lot of money first.
We develop AJAX apps for businesses, many of whom are still using IE 6. Even IE 8 is a slow bag of spanners but trying to get a modern AJAX app to work in IE 6 whilst some IT director refuses to upgrade puts us in a very awkward position.
This plugin will save us years of work, and more importantly finally set about killing the useless pile of cack that is IE.
We intend to "ditch" all IE support as of today and force IE to run ChromeFrame
I have been trying forever to get my site to work with IE... I have come to the point where I dropped support for it... this makes it possible for IE to view my site correctly !!!!!! thank you so much I LOVE YOU GUYS
my site is savemoot com
try it with without chromeframe.... it is Terrible
i mean... IE doesn't know what an inline-div is seriously
Brilliant idea - love the thought. Lets see how Microsoft reacts to this one. Will they try to "annoy" plugin users like they did with the Flash plugin once? Secondly, now we just need to make valid XHTML code and test that one 4-5 browsers... knowing that there will be a solution for the Javascript/AJAX - has anyone tried how Jquery etc. works with the plugin yet?
And what's the point? Users who won't go download a new browser aren't going to go download a new browser plug-in either. Any good webdev knows he has to make his site work in IE without Chromeframe, so this plugin will do very little for users who don't have it.
Google, if you wanted IE users to download something that lets them switch to the chrome engine seamlessly, you should've just made an IE-styled skin for Chrome. Too obvious a solution I guess.
I suppose you failed to see that this plugin would still be very useful when used in controlled environments for things like corporate intranet applications. An IT coordinator may not want to change the browser they use but they may certainly be more willing to add a plugin across the board.
An edge case that does not validate the resources that went into creating this plugin. Unfortunately, I don't think intranet webdevs without the ability to code an app that renders in IE were the target audience for Chromeframe.
My point remains: this plugin will not change anything. The typical IE user is catered to by every legitimate website, and therefore has no need of a plugin that lets him pass Acid tests. Practically no one will bother downloading it.
Though your point remains very valid as the target audience certainly will not change, us developers should still be very thankful for just one more route that can be taken as a good solution. Anything that helps us fight Microsoft's poor standards is always appreciated.
It is more of a slap to Microsoft for not dropping support of IE 6. With Microsoft being such a big player in the computer world, they essentially can control the internet in a sense. So this is not really trying to get IE users to switch, it is more so to get Microsoft to catch up with technology.
Add the agenda-push tag to your page (which I guarantee Google will do to each of their web applications) and your page will direct you right to the Chrome Frame download page!
Trust me, if users are too lazy to switch away from IE, that more likely supports that notion that they are also sheepish enough to simple "click to install and continue to my page."
I have to directly disagree, I do computer maint. around my town for spare cash, I don't know how many times I've shown a user "Here, this is Chrome, it's better, use it." and I come back two weeks later and find them using IE and wondering why it's sluggish. They go around installing toolbars and whatnot constantly but they won't switch to Chrome. This is the perfect thing to help bridge that gap!
It's a step in the wrong direction to require users to install a plugin to use your site. Whatever happened to graceful degradation? I for one, when faced with a site that says "You must download this software to see my page," am going to run away screaming.
Fellow webdevs: yes, IE is abysmal, and every iteration is just a new level of quirkiness to deal with. But it's your JOB to code for numerous clients. Broaden your site's browser support, don't limit the user. That's lazy.
I'd rather see them drop support for IE 5/6 entirely instead of finding ways to render websites as modern browsers would do. A web designer still has to make a second version of his website because IE 5/6 doesn't support it. Not everyone will download the plugin, as it causes unnecessary hassle. A browser upgrade is the better solution.
Just leave IE 6 as it is. Eventually, it will go away. There are more switchers every day, and even my university switched from IE 6 to IE 8 a few weeks ago.
ToBeTie wrote: "Not everyone will download the plugin, as it causes unnecessary hassle"
Yeah, but downloading another browser is also an "unnecessary hassle" in the eyes of the folks still using a f*cking old browser such as Internet Explorer 6 (eight years old already, and counting), so for those people who refuse to upgrade, a plug-in is better because the user interface of their (for some unfathomable reason) favorite browser is unchanged! So this is a good step forward for the web.
So, what is this thing about really? I love google chrome. Does this Google Chrome Frame mean Internet Explorer will look like Google Chrome now when I use it?
I like it. Plus Google try and show their work place as a fun and innovative place for work and ideas. So I can see why they would allow it. It doesn't make them look like any less of a company.
Can you also release a plug-in that'll bring Chrome's features, such as tabs management, to IE8? I like Chrome, but I also like IE8. Once Chrome gets full extension support for mouse-gestures, I'll take a deep look at switching to Chrome.
Useless invention really. People who use IE are either not tech-savvy enough to realize there's other options or are uber-diehard Microsoft fanboys. Neither of which are going to install this plugin.
Can't face the camera? This is an app that puts Google's awesomeness in the place of MS IE sucky-ness. This is more important then his ability to talk to the plastic box stealing his soul.
Internet explorer ripped off Netscape and literally destroyed them. Now, Google came with another browser which didn't "rip off" but gave the answer that need to be given to MS. Chrome > Crappy internet Explorer and Google > Microsoft. I love Google!
I'm sorry... I got distracted by your good looks :-)
oneofakind2727 4 days ago
can't this just MAKE THEM install the pluging, or run it somehow...
cause if the user is using IE he is so idiot that won't install it!
69TmTulio 5 days ago
I just about came in my pants when I found this.
liamMaru 1 week ago
ahhh ! I Don't Use Google Chrome ... I USE SAFARI !
iLapTouch 3 weeks ago
browserception
Pk403 2 months ago
Shame on Micro$oft. Google has to write code for yu.
funnyuday 2 months ago 3
Wow, i.e. sucks so bad that even google has to make something as if to say "Come on man, have some respect for yourself, put this on"
TreyRust 3 months ago 3
i want that t-shirt
Guill0rtiz 3 months ago 2
0:20 LOL'ing forever.
VinylCyril 4 months ago
for pure awesomeness:
1. regedit.exe: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Google\ChromeFrame\IsDefaultRenderer
2. If ChromeFrame isn't there, make the key under Google, then make IsDefaultRenderer a DWORD.
3. Make IsDefaultRenderer a 1.
enjoy awesomeness
mickyd110011 4 months ago 2
I saw a really good presentation by the guy. Reminded me to go and rewatch it. :P
tomtucjr 4 months ago
i love his shirt
CONVENTION 5 months ago
Would that bring any more spying side effects ;)
MrElectrifyer 6 months ago
Opera is by far the best browser available and has been for a long time. Forget the National Security Agency controlled Google and go Opera.
anunnaki2006 6 months ago
Alex is cute, hi Alex.
HisagiShuhei 6 months ago
THAT GUY LOOKS LIKE A DOUCHEBAG
wifiaccount1 6 months ago
This is why I love Google. They are helping their competition just for the greater good of the internet.
lukechalfantt 6 months ago
luv gOoGle ChRoMe
amolvirdie 8 months ago
nice shirt
MIllionsSmileyz 8 months ago
so why make a frame? why not just get people to install google chrome itself?
0501701 10 months ago
@0501701 because google are not greedy money grabbing people like microsoft, they like to give people choices, and not force their products on people like MS do
gail843 9 months ago
@0501701 As a developer I can tell you it's almost impossible to get older people, and I'm not talking senior citizens, I'm talking more like baby boomers and 40 year old folks to ditch their shitty Internet Explorer 6 browsers for modern current ones. In third world countries, also, many companies still use Internet Explorer 6 for their intranets, namely, in China.
mrbrockpeters 8 months ago
@mrbrockpeters I think that is because IE is better if you use other languages .
I am using IE beacause google chrome is horrible when browsing arabic sites.
MrFadhel07 7 months ago
@MrFadhel07 yeah, that's true also.
mrbrockpeters 7 months ago
OMFG, why is google soo nice, i was about to give up on attempting to build pages that work in IE along with all other browsers
Moldysquirral 11 months ago
google chrome frame supports websockets?
if yes how to program I'm not able.
ktinho2 11 months ago
Google has to build a work around for IE because Microsoft is to stupid to do it right xD
MAtloi 11 months ago 36
I believe chrome is the best browser for developers and it is simple to use for normal users.
Dafuntv 1 year ago
I think my internet explorer browser is 07 or 08... Will this change the design of the web (address bar, File Edite View Favorites Tools Help, And Tag) page? Because i haven't had Interenet Explorer 07/08 for even a year and finally got used to it and i don't want it to change again.
lauren1344 1 year ago
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Jester995 1 year ago
@lauren1344 It won't affect the design of Internet Explorer at all - it only changes the part that interprets the design of the websites you view.
Basically what it does is take a terrible browser (Internet Explorer) and give it support for all of the new, modern web technologies. Average users probably don't know or care what these technologies are but basically they allow Web Designers to make much better, faster sites that Internet Explorer cannot display without Chrome Frame.
Jester995 1 year ago
@lauren1344 Or to summarize: your browser is old, insecure, unsupported by everyone, very slow and seriously holding back progress on the web.
Jester995 1 year ago
I don't like Google Chrome. I love Google Chrome Frame and Google Chrome! Well, not in a gay way.
icyshadow0 1 year ago 3
So i need to force my clients or users to install Google Chrome Frame in thier machine in order to acquire this function right? Did you guys think that will they will do so? Better stay inside Standards instead of asking my users to install some third party plugins just for running my website or app. i dont like loosing visitors. I dont care about this. This is the first time i say Sorry to Google!!!
najeebputhiyallam 1 year ago 2
@najeebputhiyallam I concur. This is just stupid. And who with a sane mind want to develop in yet another standard. When it already is a pain in the ass to fix all problems for IE
weeruz 1 year ago
Why does this guy look like a douchebag?
Sincere188 1 year ago
then.. y don't we use... GOOGLE CHROME!
qoohkLive7 1 year ago
One problem, the idiots that use Internet explorer aren't going to install this plug-in for their browser.
TheUnillogical 1 year ago 21
@TheUnillogical I am using a computer at the moment that is not mine, I can´t simply install another browser and the owner of the computer understands nothing about informatics, so he won´t let me do anything that he wouldn´t understand, that is NOTHING. So in order to use the websites i am used to, i can install now Chrome Frame. That improves IE A LOT. And even better he will never now I installed it.
webcoolio 1 year ago 3
@webcoolio - Yeah but you're in the minority
TheUnillogical 1 year ago
@TheUnillogical i installed the plugin. >:(
123RoboticChicken 2 months ago
@123RoboticChicken - ark at you.
TheUnillogical 2 months ago
@TheUnillogical ark?
123RoboticChicken 2 months ago
@TheUnillogical i'm doing it since i am that idiot,jk
MrJeantina78 2 months ago
anyways IE9 will fully support HTML 5, there are some demos available already, worth checking out
Nocturnox65 1 year ago
I have installed it; does it need to add this line also ?!
where and how should i add this ??
kittleboy 1 year ago
It's FREE It's FAST it's It's PERFECT! GOOD JOB!
me7rosexual 1 year ago
@scottgale379 Sorry, Im just feeling the pressure to keep me from the easy direct acces to .flv video files in IE6 cache folder. The else fancy things like "open web technologies" and "rich cutting edge web apps" wich need
"html5 and recent improvements in javascript pefomance" and for wich all the commotion is, are from my sight just excuse for it.
aellaron 1 year ago
2012, learn more about the Google Chrome Frame.
GuangjunBai 1 year ago
One advantage of the facilities and opportunities in time
oneasse 1 year ago
@aellaron IE6 has the slowest rendering engine of any browser, and thus has the highest likelyhood of locking up your browser and making it crash.
All modern browsers cache files.
Java and Flash have nothing to do with Chrome Frame.
Getting rid of IE6 is about making the web faster, easier, and leaner. Even Microsoft wants to get rid of it. It's time. If you are not forced to run IE6, don't drag the whole web community down by running a 10 year old piece of software.
scottgale379 1 year ago
Google Chrome makes my PC to crash, IE6 does not. IE6 allows me to acces the cache files with .flv videos, none of new browswrs does. So why should I trust you with all "new functions" of jawa&flash co. wich are mostly used just for new annoying advertisment methods?
aellaron 1 year ago
HTML5 beta still sucks, dont get it
guy00also 1 year ago
People could just switch to a browser that doesn't suck monkey balls.
gorillasocks 1 year ago
I'm a web developer, and I can't thank Google enough for this. I get nauseas just from listening the words "internet" and "explorer" on the same phrase. Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!
jpcfernandes 1 year ago 2
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DreamsofMajesty 1 year ago
Weird.
If I want to run Chrome I just install Chrome period.
This thing is installing Chrome and it's running it in the shape of IE
Isn't this what viruses do?
peppeddu 1 year ago 4
@peppeddu Nope.
Devourer09 1 year ago
Dear google don't you think it will be a smart idea to include the notification that you need to add cf: to the url?
Found out thanks to TheFreeppvs
masterpj55 2 years ago
The only problem is getting end-users to actually install the plugin.
spynae 2 years ago
google chrome crush on its had with its V8 javascript
when editing dokuwiki sites :(
google chrome engine still has many bugs.
i am so upset that i used google chrome.
i have typed a full article then it shows an ugly face of a computer and says something kind of your frame cruched and all my creativity was lost in amoment
(compared to ie6)
the bug is probably related to object references to input elements, when docuwiki is automaticaly adds asterisks to textarea and checks where the cursor is
shimondoodkin 2 years ago
@shimondoodkin I can't even respond to your comments because they are so incoherent.
scottgale379 1 year ago
@shimondoodkin go use txt. it crashes less than microsoft office you know. less likely to screw with your creativity ^^
thatotherthinker 1 year ago
lol Wow what fail first off to even get the frame working which Google don't tell you the frame will not work on any pages at all unless you put cf: at the begenning on the url
TheFreeppvs 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Perhaps IE8 isnt that bad after all; my web page load speeds on IE8 are almost equal to that of chrome now(with chrome frame), but FF is still lagging behind alot.
s9729126c 2 years ago
Thre's just one... okay, 2 massive problems with Chrome Frame...
You need admin rights to install it.
And by default, IE does not use Chrome Frame, unless you add "cf:" to the beginning of the URL.
The only workaround is to simply install some kinda .reg file.
It is not that difficult for Google to include it themselves, and many web developers probably havn't a clue of that tag thing's existance. So Google, fix it so Chrome Frame works by default, and make an offline installer. Thanks.
BarricadeSlade 2 years ago
Interesting, so we basically allow google chrome to render our pages based on v8 javascript and other fast stuff. Nice.
atarikg 2 years ago
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did he die?
WFArmstrong 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
You kinda forgot to shave. Don't waste youth trying to look older coz most certainly you'll do the same when older trying to look younger. People think that looks change the way people respect them but if you have the opportunity of "speech" you'll show your value for sure no matter if you're young.
buran2 2 years ago
I find this comment to be worthless.
theymakeapillforthat 2 years ago
But hey whatever I wrote a whole text and deleted and the feeling is the same even if you'll never read and never know what I wrote just moments ago. Try it out sometime... feels equally great and there's no "pong" from the "ping" sent to receive. Cheers
buran2 2 years ago
I have no idea what you are talking about.
theymakeapillforthat 2 years ago
lol anyone notice that chrome logo is a reworkin of the windows flag logo there is an image out there that shows the transformation and it rocks
gonzo191 2 years ago
That's bollocks. Prolly an american thing and their mania of conspiracy theories. There's 7 colors and those upthere have been looking more than good since ever why change that? Because it looks like windows look? Hell not! But it might be good fools thinking of conspiracy because it makes pub of it and it helps to spread the word. Just my opinion.. not to take serious... i'm just another fool and there will come other and other like a cycle. Nice :o) Cheerio
buran2 2 years ago
I want that t-shirt
KileSimons 2 years ago 2
Well this sucks. Why not just use Google chrome?
7960Dan 2 years ago
The intention is to allow restricted computers which cannot install new software like browsers, can just install Google Chrome Frame. IE still has a shitload of market share.
Dimax444 2 years ago
Reatricted computers, though most likely don't allow admin access, so MASSIVE flaw.
They need to make a .zip, that has all the files, all you have to do is copy them into the right location.
BarricadeSlade 2 years ago
@7960Dan its for developers to ease the dev testing process since IE is a bag load of shit that renders lot of stuff horribly
gonzo191 2 years ago
why the fuck GOogle is trying to improve Internet Shitlorer ?
xSuchutki 2 years ago 3
coz most of users use it , and thats make the life developer as hell
1111l 2 years ago
"hi mister Windows, I'm Google and I rebuilt your application, bye!"
MayhemL2 2 years ago 3
he reminds me of charles trippy
JaquariusWilson 2 years ago
Trying to make IE good? Well....
1) IE SUCKS. NO QUESTION.
2) Google has a good product. PUSH IT MAN!!!!!
bng44270 2 years ago 2
Are all the engineers there this cute?
sa1994kimo 2 years ago 49
@sa1994kimo Are you a dude? If so don't be a faggot!
nanquan491 1 year ago
@sa1994kimo u ain't kidding. he's HOT!
msexige00 1 year ago
@sa1994kimo u ain't kidding. he's HOT! msexige00
msexige00 1 year ago
@sa1994kimo Thats what i was thinking the entire time!!! lol
iamrye 9 months ago
@sa1994kimo probably not. Most programmers I know look like a yeti or sasquatch. Hairy bearded tubby dudes, who are brilliant and kind but don't look they can get a girl to go out with them. In fact, the more brilliant they are, the bigger their beards.
mrbrockpeters 8 months ago
@mrbrockpeters What an acute observation!
sa1994kimo 8 months ago
Great intentions...but bad idea.
As it is..IE6 is the baby that should never have been born. By allowing stubborn IE6 users to "prolong its usage" via this plugin will just perpetuate the crime that is IE6. Furthermore, most corporations that still insist and use IE6, will most likely not approve installation of this plugin. Individuals who still use IE6, will prob not even know this plugin exists. I say, let IE6 die its long overdue death and not prolong it with this plugin.
nivlek78 2 years ago 4
so we can improve the web together :)
matbonucci 2 years ago 3
It works fine, but not great. Installing the plugin comes with some problems.
It uses the webkit engine and the output SHOULD be identical to chrome's output, if you install the plugin and have the meta-tag. I tested it, and the performance increase is noticable. I was like o.0: IE with fluid JS animations :o
it's amazing :D
But not ready... YET. I would like to see the result! keep it going :D
gamebuster800 2 years ago
Much love for google <3
TastyClock 2 years ago
Chrome Frame is good for enterprises since they can still use IE6 for their intranet and not have to deploy a 2nd browser for internet surfing. Of course you lose tabs but most corporations don't want to upgrade their old apps since it's very expensive and time consuming. Eventually they'll upgrade if W7 gets mass business adoption.
rendezvous65 2 years ago
tabs aren't lost
gojo345 2 years ago
Why would it cost money to install applications?
To have a "professional" install it? *rolleyes*
It doesn't take a professional to double click installer.exe
BarricadeSlade 2 years ago
I think the issue is installing it on an organisation's systems- most companies prefer not to let people at their systems without paying them a lot of money first.
7677890 2 years ago
but it does to do it on more than 100 computers
bazzo9 2 years ago
@bazzo9 Netinstall, duh! Install from server!
BarricadeSlade 2 years ago
We develop AJAX apps for businesses, many of whom are still using IE 6. Even IE 8 is a slow bag of spanners but trying to get a modern AJAX app to work in IE 6 whilst some IT director refuses to upgrade puts us in a very awkward position.
This plugin will save us years of work, and more importantly finally set about killing the useless pile of cack that is IE.
We intend to "ditch" all IE support as of today and force IE to run ChromeFrame
KingStreetMassif 2 years ago 4
Thank YOU GOOGLE!!!!!!!!!!!
I have been trying forever to get my site to work with IE... I have come to the point where I dropped support for it... this makes it possible for IE to view my site correctly !!!!!! thank you so much I LOVE YOU GUYS
my site is savemoot com
try it with without chromeframe.... it is Terrible
i mean... IE doesn't know what an inline-div is seriously
gojo345 2 years ago
"The last IE" I thought I'll never see IE death. Hurray! You are genious guys!
kenorb2 2 years ago
wow, he is cute ;P
anyways: i like chrome^^
Zutentu 2 years ago
Brilliant idea - love the thought. Lets see how Microsoft reacts to this one. Will they try to "annoy" plugin users like they did with the Flash plugin once? Secondly, now we just need to make valid XHTML code and test that one 4-5 browsers... knowing that there will be a solution for the Javascript/AJAX - has anyone tried how Jquery etc. works with the plugin yet?
BerggreenDK 2 years ago
i rather stay with my green screen ibm
nosupecualponerme 2 years ago
i did the acid 3 test and failed ^^
darknald123890 2 years ago
thats because chrome frame only runs on websites that request it... acid 3 does not have the meta tag chrome frame request
DUH j/k but seriously
gojo345 2 years ago
Or just get Firefox. Haha.
WalkAroundDude 2 years ago
I LOVE google chrome
takayoshikane4 2 years ago 62
Right with you. Wooh. Plugins owk!
REdirectURL 2 years ago
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@takayoshikane4 I would love it if you learn how to use correct grammar and punctuation right before you put up a comment.
armandornd 6 months ago
this is awesome. a function of a trojan. let's beat microsoft from within.
karolisk 2 years ago
And what's the point? Users who won't go download a new browser aren't going to go download a new browser plug-in either. Any good webdev knows he has to make his site work in IE without Chromeframe, so this plugin will do very little for users who don't have it.
Google, if you wanted IE users to download something that lets them switch to the chrome engine seamlessly, you should've just made an IE-styled skin for Chrome. Too obvious a solution I guess.
rubberbuttbuster 2 years ago
I suppose you failed to see that this plugin would still be very useful when used in controlled environments for things like corporate intranet applications. An IT coordinator may not want to change the browser they use but they may certainly be more willing to add a plugin across the board.
logicalchaosmes 2 years ago 3
An edge case that does not validate the resources that went into creating this plugin. Unfortunately, I don't think intranet webdevs without the ability to code an app that renders in IE were the target audience for Chromeframe.
My point remains: this plugin will not change anything. The typical IE user is catered to by every legitimate website, and therefore has no need of a plugin that lets him pass Acid tests. Practically no one will bother downloading it.
rubberbuttbuster 2 years ago
Though your point remains very valid as the target audience certainly will not change, us developers should still be very thankful for just one more route that can be taken as a good solution. Anything that helps us fight Microsoft's poor standards is always appreciated.
logicalchaosmes 2 years ago
It is more of a slap to Microsoft for not dropping support of IE 6. With Microsoft being such a big player in the computer world, they essentially can control the internet in a sense. So this is not really trying to get IE users to switch, it is more so to get Microsoft to catch up with technology.
5L3v3n 2 years ago 4
Add the agenda-push tag to your page (which I guarantee Google will do to each of their web applications) and your page will direct you right to the Chrome Frame download page!
Trust me, if users are too lazy to switch away from IE, that more likely supports that notion that they are also sheepish enough to simple "click to install and continue to my page."
jvdthwip 2 years ago
I have to directly disagree, I do computer maint. around my town for spare cash, I don't know how many times I've shown a user "Here, this is Chrome, it's better, use it." and I come back two weeks later and find them using IE and wondering why it's sluggish. They go around installing toolbars and whatnot constantly but they won't switch to Chrome. This is the perfect thing to help bridge that gap!
Deveyus 2 years ago 4
It's a step in the wrong direction to require users to install a plugin to use your site. Whatever happened to graceful degradation? I for one, when faced with a site that says "You must download this software to see my page," am going to run away screaming.
Fellow webdevs: yes, IE is abysmal, and every iteration is just a new level of quirkiness to deal with. But it's your JOB to code for numerous clients. Broaden your site's browser support, don't limit the user. That's lazy.
johnfactorial 2 years ago
I'd rather see them drop support for IE 5/6 entirely instead of finding ways to render websites as modern browsers would do. A web designer still has to make a second version of his website because IE 5/6 doesn't support it. Not everyone will download the plugin, as it causes unnecessary hassle. A browser upgrade is the better solution.
Just leave IE 6 as it is. Eventually, it will go away. There are more switchers every day, and even my university switched from IE 6 to IE 8 a few weeks ago.
ToBeTie 2 years ago
ToBeTie wrote: "Not everyone will download the plugin, as it causes unnecessary hassle"
Yeah, but downloading another browser is also an "unnecessary hassle" in the eyes of the folks still using a f*cking old browser such as Internet Explorer 6 (eight years old already, and counting), so for those people who refuse to upgrade, a plug-in is better because the user interface of their (for some unfathomable reason) favorite browser is unchanged! So this is a good step forward for the web.
OMA2k 2 years ago 2
I wish Mozilla do the Firefox Frame - the Gecko plugin to be used in IE, Chrome, Opera :-)
This way my XUL Web CMS would have really no limits...
xuldevelopers 2 years ago 3
T-shirt under a t-shirt. Just how many shirts do you need?
rubberbuttbuster 2 years ago
Google kicks Microsoft in the A**.
freesk8 2 years ago 5
And this helps Mac users how? Microsoft dropped IE for Mac 3 years ago.
2bazar 2 years ago
nice tshirt
coketransactions 2 years ago 2
nice tshirt
mayanief 2 years ago
Alex is yummy.
kthankxbye 2 years ago 2
So, what is this thing about really? I love google chrome. Does this Google Chrome Frame mean Internet Explorer will look like Google Chrome now when I use it?
bustachaina 2 years ago
I don't like google chrome because it shows the pages you visited and you can't erase it. That is why I don't use it.
burntonion05 2 years ago
Yes you can, just press Ctrl+Shift+Del or go under the wrench to "Clear Browsing Data".
Or you can also browse in an incognito browser which does not save anything you visit.
summertrains 2 years ago 2
You Press Ctrl+Shift+N and you open "incognito window" which doesn't save anything you do on the web. Hence the name of it....
bustachaina 2 years ago
Yeah I know but it is still a pretty lame setup if you asked me.
burntonion05 2 years ago
Long live open source.
kdwormy 2 years ago 2
What is with that shirt?
provoko 2 years ago
I like it. Plus Google try and show their work place as a fun and innovative place for work and ideas. So I can see why they would allow it. It doesn't make them look like any less of a company.
PianoSonata 2 years ago
I can't imagine how much money this guy names. A software engineer? Holy shit dude.
ProEthan 2 years ago
You shot a rocket launcher at Microsoft when you announced Chrome OS. But this? Nuclear warhead.
statikeffeck 2 years ago
Can you also release a plug-in that'll bring Chrome's features, such as tabs management, to IE8? I like Chrome, but I also like IE8. Once Chrome gets full extension support for mouse-gestures, I'll take a deep look at switching to Chrome.
This plug-in should be great for Gmail using IE8!
sterlingman 2 years ago
Alex, kick asss.
ebabyrocks 2 years ago
That guy has a SWEET shirt!!
LittleDebbie11 2 years ago 2
So ALL you simply have to do is :
1.) Put that tag on all the billions of pages on the web.
2.) Make sure everyone using IE who cant/wont install Google chrome on their computers successfully installs this program from Google instead.
...and it will be like they are are all using chrome?
Sign me up,!
Where do i go to get my hat and robe?
mtssvnsn 2 years ago 5
Useless invention really. People who use IE are either not tech-savvy enough to realize there's other options or are uber-diehard Microsoft fanboys. Neither of which are going to install this plugin.
Yerzriknot 2 years ago
This is great and all, but when is Google Chrome coming out for OS X?
gavinovz 2 years ago
There is already a developer preview released if I remember correctly.
Check it out.
MicroHive 2 years ago
You can use Firefox or Safari for Wave on OS X.
Ephilei 2 years ago
Well, yeah. I already have Safari 4.
gavinovz 2 years ago 2
Safari rocks :P
alexandergre 2 years ago
Where did he get that t-shirt?
Wester2008 2 years ago 6
Weird. Google Chrome Experiments don't work in the IE with Chrome frame. However, other sites are extremely faster with the frame.
xinnianhao 2 years ago
Is this not the definition of ownage?
imonfya247 2 years ago
i dont use it.. i use safari for windows. is the fastest.
chromiony 2 years ago
No. It's not fastest. Chrome v.3 is the fastest browser for Windows.
wconstantine0 2 years ago 2
Hehe, you got me for a second
APRIL APRIL!
4K4K1K0 2 years ago
Internet Explorer!!? I don't even want that to improve.
CPnieuws 2 years ago 3
I agree
Arsenefaithful 2 years ago
Can't face the camera? This is an app that puts Google's awesomeness in the place of MS IE sucky-ness. This is more important then his ability to talk to the plastic box stealing his soul.
Use it, improve it, pass it on.
deffender80 2 years ago 3
web art -beautiful!
This is like forgiving Microsoft for everything, and moving on.
This is how nature itself overcomes man-made pollution - if it is given time.
kamvik 2 years ago
Ultimate insult :p haha
henriksultan 2 years ago
Microsoft just got pwnd.
wconstantine0 2 years ago 3
Surely anyone who knows enough to think installing an alternate rendering engine in IE is a good idea ISN'T USING IE ANY MORE.
invagrante 2 years ago 8
for IE? no thanks!
ItsAllLinux 2 years ago
The web can get so much better if people stop using IE :P
Qieth 2 years ago 10
Great for those assholes who cannot find anything worse than IE to browse the web
Ozonoxis 2 years ago
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So now we will be seeing even more of those wonderful "to view this site you have to install program XYZ "-messages.
Great...i cant wait.
mtssvnsn 2 years ago
looks like you haven't understood the concept ... since it's just a meta tag, there won't be a message to install any program
only for those who have installed the plugin the site will be rendered like webkit
justcalifornian 2 years ago
From the GCF homepage:
"If Google Chrome Frame is not installed, you can direct your users to an installation page. "
Yep, and people wont use that?
And there wont be any "Google Chrome Frame"-only sites?
Just like there are no "adobe flash"-only sites.
Because people just aren't that stupid? =))
mtssvnsn 2 years ago
What we have been waiting for! THANK YOU GOOGLE. Replace that outdated Internet Explorer Rendering Engine..
Really happy about you guys.. thanks ^^
neptunes77 2 years ago 6
SHOOOOOOOP =D
jandan2892 2 years ago
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Haven't seen 1 Google employee who knows how to face the camera
almightyvegeta87 2 years ago
that's ok cos they're geeks. I'm a geek and I;m very uncomfortable in front of a camera. But, I'm the best at what I do.
wodahsking 2 years ago 2
True, they should rather hire some MBA people with extravagant clothes and lots of hairgel to do some fancy powerpoint presentations...
4K4K1K0 2 years ago
Internet explorer ripped off Netscape and literally destroyed them. Now, Google came with another browser which didn't "rip off" but gave the answer that need to be given to MS. Chrome > Crappy internet Explorer and Google > Microsoft. I love Google!
tutorialconr 2 years ago 5