You should probably get your fact right before posting shit on mormons. There is a difference between LDS and FLDS. When you are saying stuff about having multiple wives, that would be FLDS which not part of the LDS church. FLDS is The Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, LDS is the Church of Latter-Day Saints. SOOO probably should do some research before you talk about Mormons. Just saying.
there is no jealousy when you think of what homo's lifestyle results in: death, pain, agony by HIV/AIDS, etc. What is to be jealous of? It's sad and the homo's when they get down to the truth, know the lifestyle is painful, suffering, death, and partners that do not stay, are not committed, always looking to defile themselves more, never satisfied. It's true.
i feel so sory for the mormons always getting attacked,when theyre such beautiful people..its not their fault that gays are grosse and demands acceptance from everyone..and fuck bill maher the ugly wanker..and as for that fat shit talking..fix your eyebrows why dont ya hahaha
@Xarnius, the US is not a theocracy & there is a separation of church & state hence, cant use one's religion for public laws. Lets not forget that mainstream christianity does consider the LDS as a cult. I am atheist however, I do believe in the right of those to believe in what they wish; religion and gvt has no business to dictate what one can and cannot do with their body. It is your right to choose how you conduct yourself but you have no rights to push your religious beliefs on others.
Why are the Mormon's taking flack for something that is clearly taught against in every Christian bible? It seems Romney takes flack if he goes to the Bible or doesn't go to the Bible - YET if a religion does, they are then told they are being intolerant. Should we also start picking and choosing other parts to omit from the Bible? How about adultery, hey what's strong families mean right? How about murder, stealing... are we seeing a pattern here?
I'm a gay man, and I'm a mormon born and raised. I don't agree with everything in my religion, but who does? We can look at any religion and see people protesting their religion on the beliefs in their faith. But lets get it straight - Today Mormons do not practice Polygamy. Those groups that do are sects that broke away from the religion. Before you bash a faith, be sure you have your facts straight.
@xtelevisionset are you aware that what church does is inspired by the book?! If not you're an idiot and can't fathom how could you be an atheist. Are you aware LDS was racist against black people, and called their skin a CURSE?! I doubt you read BoM.
Its funny.......cuz he is fat xD, Now listen u fktard, all u said didnt make sense at all. The big gigantic church......IS A TEMPLE. If u dont even know what they are called, how can you be sure that what ure saying its true??. Get a life dude.
I want to make this clear if you want to talk of our religion please get it right, we are not mormons that is the name of the book we are the church of jesus christ of latter day saints and we love everyone but it says in the bible that god created man and women and they should replenish the earth. Also we are not polygamist they had been along time ago when joseph smith was around and that was because their were more women than men and they needed men to help support their families.
@sheena4042 so you needed to fuck em women to support em? What happened to donating and supporting, sounds more like prostitution lol. Oh and please explain why LDS was against black people, BoM calls it a curse or i am simply delusional?
@sheena4042: "we are not mormons that is the name of the book "
-- Uh... what's the name of your famous choir again?
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"we are not polygamist"
-- If you are sealed in your temple, sheena, how long does your marriage last?
If you die and your husband re-marries, is he still married to you?
If that wife dies and he marries a third one, how many wives will he have for eternity? Now, what do we call the practice of having more than one wife?
-_- obviously cowboy Steve was late to the make believe party based on older religions including the cults of Dionysus, Apollo and Pan raped thrown into a book full of contradictions compiled by mysterious authors who apparently wrote about their own deaths held all together by the ridiculous idea that man is corrupted from what some jerk off did in the past because their imaginary friend planted a tree there for no reason while putting a talking snake in the garden with them. -_-
@cowboy104th So, religion has no place in politics. If you read the bible, you would know this. Just because someone believes in a god that says no gay marriage, it doesn't mean everyone believe in that. You can't legally force your beliefs on others. Anti-gay marriage is unconstitutional.
@cowboy104th the bible doesn't control law, dildo. i have read the bible, and i don't agree with you. so i guess your prediction was bogus. you have to have a SECULAR basis to ban the right of gay couples to be recognized as married by the state. there isn't one. "god doesn't like it" is not a justification under our system.
@cowboy104th Why do you talk as if the bible came out last week? Of course people have read about Adam and Eve. That's not going to make people not understand their are people who are more attracted to the same sex. Gay people don't read it, and their same sex attraction goes away, and they discover a deeper attraction for the opposite sex.
I'm not a Mormon and I'm not gay, but from an outside point of view, I'd say that if gays can get married, then Mormons should be able to marry more than one wife if their religion permits or encourages it. I don't understand why there are laws that prohibit marriages among adults. Let gays marry each other, let Mormons marry multiple wives, and let everyone be happy. No one should force their beliefs or values on anyone else.
@iMaKeUsHoOk the polygamy argument is a red herring. the issue isn't about being able to marry multiple people. the issue is about equal protection. the law says a person can marry the consenting adult of their choice, but only from within a set determined by the state. that is discriminatory. for discrimination to exist, there has to be a justification for it that satisfies, at minimum, the rational basis test of substantive due process. there is no such basis to deny same sex marriage.
I'm sorry but get a life! Stop talking about our religion its not cool and just because we have WAY better standards than the rest of y'all doesn't mean you can talk bad about us. and over 14 million people are Mormons on this earth. and we didn't take away your way of life and you didn't take away our way of life. Just saying.
@ldsmormongirl3 LOL. way to baselessly assert superiority. and the reason that someone "can't talk about" you is... freedom of speech. you "standards" have nothing to do with anyone's ability to talk about you. no one is trying to take away your way of life, but YOU people DO try to control people's lives. that is precisely what prop 8 was for.
The fact is: It doesn't matter what anyone says or does to the LDS church. Mormons not only believe, but know that there is more to life than living on this Earth. The church will never fall again and will always have the strength to overcome anything.
@Phoxus "The fact is: It doesn't matter what anyone says or does to the LDS church. Mormons not only believe, but know that there is more to life than living on this Earth." ummmm, you just made a declaration of something that you can't possibly know... not that that is unique to mormons.
Oh shut up stupid, you chose Cinderello and this nation is in ruin, and you still talking like you know everything. Go strait to hell, moooorron. No all the mormons are polygamy, and Ronmey is not one of them. Ronmey is going to be the next president you want it or not. f----y
Mormons don't have "churches" they have temples. I think we all need to go to the nearest rock quarry, find a "seer stone" (???) and stick it in hat, and "read it". If we come to the same "revelation" that Jim Jones...um I mean, uh, oh yeah, Joseph Smith had, then we all should become "mormons". if not, Mormonism needs flushed.
"You don't change public policy to accommodate a few. You shape public policy based on what's beneficial to the society as a whole."
What are the benefits of society as a whole as far as straight marriage? Let's see. They get tax breaks. That's pretty much it. What could harm society if gay people marry?...Nothing. In fact, it helps kids get out of the adoption system and into homes that are as compatible as straight couples homes.
JUst to let you know mormons are more helpful then anyone alive espacially your mom so you can really not say anything because you truly dont know the religion so plz not be speaking about our religion
Actually, that would be a good form of torture if you went to war with Mormon's and captured them. Expose them to gay porn and anally rape their men, especially the leaders, like the prophet. Think about that lasting psychological damage if real gay men gave them the big bone. Most real gay men would not, but a bunch of long-time prisoners would, especially those in Utah. They would know that experience well and gladly do it as a service to their fellow citizens. Torture? maybe, or just love
Yes, and do your protest in a civil manner, it would make the Mormon's so anger as your not doing something they can point to, and the message will be there, and over time they will not like it and could not keep up. You would win.
They should protest in Salt Lake City. Do it outside the Tabernacle. I have been there. I thought it was a nice place, but if the Mormon's wants to be political, know this the city of Salt Lake is a very quite place. Use your public freedom of speech rights. When they clamp down on you, they will be moving against your civil rights and be in the wrong and will lose in a legal case. Know that your on the side that will win. Unless the supreme court goes against the Bill of Rights but otherwise...
All religions could use a good reconstruction job. They can examine their foundations, find the cracks, do a major demolition job on all non-loving parts, then rebuild the foundation with love and only love. The religious organization can then be redesigned from there.
For example, the Roman Catholic Empire can sell the Vatican, which is built on a foundation of political power. Then they can relocate to a small and humble building and with the Vatican proceeds, end world hunger.
I appreciate the Mormon Church, but I don't believe it's perfect -- or even close.
What is it with churches and sex? Is that all they preach about these days? No wonder they have all those men running for their computers after church with their pants down.
I bet those homophobes all watch gay porn.
So many churches are so busy condemning love that they forgot to criticize hate.
"Love thy neighbor." ~ Jesus Christ
He didn't say that neighbor had to be heterosexual.
Why shouldn't a consensual polygamist enjoy these same "equal rights" that the homosexuals and transvestites are fighting for? Shouldn't they be able to "marry who they love?" Why do you care if they get married?
GAYS ARE THE BIGGEST HYPOCRITES, NUFF SAID. I DARE YOU TO PROVE ME WRONG.
@idaman12345 -- And who exactly are you to say that Consensual polygamists and imbreds should be discriminated from marriage? What happened to all this "marry who I love" "equal rights" "it doesn't affect me" "second class citizen" HORSESHI*? You'd think for all the gay rainbow flag waving pride and propaganda that gays put out, that the LGBT would be FIRST IN LINE to welcome alternative relationships to enjoy marriage rights that ALL citizens should be entitled to.
@idaman12345 homosexuality is 100% wrong, we should put all gays and lesbians in the gas chamber and cremate them alive, kill them all period. very disgusting, filthy, evil nasty kill them all. for God's sake.
First off, it's spelled "bestiality" not "BEASTIALITY"
Secondly, animals are pets and game. Property and food. Not citizens. Not to mention the fact that animals are incapable of comprehending legal contracts, which marriage, either gay or straight, is. Therefore to bring up this absurdity as though pets could have the same rights as humans under the law is not only absurd, but laughably and pattently ridiculous.
As far as incest goes, There's a reason why many states
First off, yes I have. (and this is a video spoken in english and therefore understandable to those who comprehend the english language. Yes I know the internet is accessable to people of various cultures and languages. Yet logic stands to reason that if you didn't understand english, you wouldn't be watching or commenting on this video in english)
Secondly, if you agree, then why bring it up as though animals could have any similar rights to humans, much less a specific
don't allow for it. I'm not going to say whether I think it is right or wrong, but you broached the subject, so I'll stick to the facts as they stand.
As I was saying, there's a reason why most states don't allow for it. It poses several undue health risks to both the mother and the child product of such a relationship. That's why there's laws in place to try and deter people from such relationships.
Again, whether I think it's right or wrong I suppose isn't for me to say. But neither is
Was the judge a mormon? I really dont know so if anybody does please tell me. If he was then yes bitch about it but still dont put all that shit on the "MORMONS" shoulders, put it on the one mormon that made it illegal. IF he wasnt then my argument still stands.
Im not aiming any of my comments towards anybody but this dumb bastard in the video. If he wants to band boys then he should vote for that, if he doesnt then he shouldnt care who else doesnt and just leave it alone. Its illegal, mormons, blacks, whites, mexicans, jews, catholics, muslims, ALL KINDS OF POEPLE voted against it. Dont hate on the mormons just to fit in. Im guessing all turks are tv hungry arrogant fucks just because you are right? Get a life and do your fuckin homework pal.
@xCH3573Rx California should have plaid it smart and kept their money and still voted how they want. Leave religion out of it. IF YA DONT LIKE IT THEN DONT BE A MORMON AND GO VOTE FOR GAY MARRAIGE WHEN IT SHOWS ITS FACE AGAIN. PLAIN AND SIMPLE
is it your right to be gay? yup it is... is it legal to be married and be gay NO to completely different fucking things. ITS MY RIGHT TO SMOKE WEED, IS IT LEGAL?? NOPE. TELL YA WHAT MOTHER FUCKER, LEGALIZE WEED AND IM SURE THEY WILL LEGALIZE GAY MARRAIGE.
THE YOUNG TURKS?? HAHA WE ARE LISTENING TO FUCKING TERRORISTS SAY THAT MORMON PEOPLE ARE FUCKED UP CAUSE THEY DONT LIKE GAYS? FUCK OFF AND GO BLOW UP A BUILDING. PLEASE THE OWNER OR WRITER FOR THIS GROUP "THEYOUNGTURKS" PLEASE WRITE ME BACK SO I CAN MAKE YOUR WHOLE SHOW A FUCKIN JOKE LIKE IT IS. IM NOT EVEN THE MORMON UR ALL TALKING SHIT ON BUT IDE LOVE TO STAND UP FOR THEM AND PROVE YOU TO BE A GOD DAMN RETARD.
so..... go on any gay hating YouTube video and find a bunch of ugly comments from people who have nothing but hate in their hearts and then people try to defend their sexuality.... then they go and hate on other people.... hmmmmm terrible video and I feel sorry for everyone that is caught up in all this and the news people who fire up people even more.
this is not true, but yes, a long time ago, mormons did do this. not anymore. & no, were dont hate gays, we are against the same sex marriage. thats all.
@idaman12345 yeahh i bet people are like that. not the whole religion though. everyone has their own opinion. im mormon & im not against them having equal rights, i just dont think its the right thing to do.
YEAH, which is why I said that even in the countries that allows polygamy, the church DOES NOT PRACTICE IT. you obviously aren't reading my posts, so I'm not going to waste any more time
So what's your answer as to God changing His mind? It happened once so doesn't that mean it COULD happen again? And what about the fact that He changed His mind? Doesn't that mean this is all just a big lie? The fact of the matter is it is up to each of us INDIVIDUALLY to find out for ourselves what is true and what isn't, that is the role of His Spirit, to testify the truthfulness of ALL things.. We are all accountable for our efforts in seeking out His truths.
@motown75 f polygamy was practiced where it is legal & not practiced where it is illegal - it would REINFORCE the reality that the PART of the church which does not practice polygamy is only not practicing it BECAUSE it is illegal.
LDS church has been over-much concerned about their public image, mistakenly wont to help Jesus build His church & that with PR machinery, & too, especially in view of their deep decline in growth, missionary success & internet hemorrhagic since the 1980s & Prop 8.
And as far as his "GIGANTIC MORMON CHURCH" reference, here is another FACT: NONE of the officials or leaders of the Mormon church get paid one dime! It is a church based on service and charity! The Mormon church is CONSTANTLY working side by side with the Red Cross when disaster strikes throughout the entire world to feed, cloth, and shelter the people in need. The Mormon church has also donated money to other churches and helps thousands of people regularly, some of which not even members.
Ok WORLD you need to stop being SHEEP and listening to people like this MORON (not Mormon) and look into issues FOR YOUR SELF. Here is a FACT: 1) The Mormon church stopped practicing polygamy in the 1800's when it became illegal in the United States. ALSO- If you are "Christian" and you believe homosexuality is not a serious sin, you may want to read the King James Bible again. Homosexuality is NOT acceptable in the eyes of God, but does He love us all? YES, as we should all love each other.
@heyman537 LDS eventually ceased the pernicious practice of polygamy because the U.S. government intervened. Many men were sent to jail. Utah was refused statehood unless they complied. Study your church's history.
No doubt LDS would be practicing the perversion of polygamy today if it was legal.
Why do you think polygamy is actually illegal today?
What does the holy New Testament tell us about a husband being satisfied in Christ by one wife?
@Shulamitefire What does the Bible tell us about Homosexuality??? How about Sodom and Gomorrah????? What is your answer to "Christians" that don't condemn homosexuality? I'm not talking about condeming the PEOPLE that are CHOOSING to be homosexual, I'm talking about the practice of something that was CONDEMNED in the Bible? SOMETHING THAT WAS SO WICKED IT WAS PUNISHED BY GOD DESTROYING ENTIRE CITIES! Or are you a Politically Correct Christian that believes being gay is OK?
@motown75 I have always agreed that homosexuality is wicked. ROMANS 1 makes that luminously clear.
It should be preached that polygamy ALSO IS sin. It is not right for the Mormon churches (plural) to uphold the sin of polygamy; such is HYPOCRITICAL.
LDS still agree with the principle as it is set forth in D&C 132. What is the difference between WARREN JEFFS & JOE SMITH in terms of polygamy, precept & practice?
Do you want to answer the questions I asked of you in my first post? Thanks.
@Shulamitefire So what are your thoughts regarding King David and Solomon?? Why is it that only the Mormon church is persecuted for polygamy? Were these two men from the Bible not Prophets? What about them?
@motown75 What is the actual difference as pertains to polygamy, precept & practice between Warren Jeffs & Joe Smith & Brigham Young? What of POLYANDRY?
Persecution? Watch videos on my channel concerning that which is REAL persecution.
Even if polygamy was condoned/commanded by God in the O.T. which it most definitely was not, CHRISTIANS are NOW under *the New Covenant..*
The N.T. explicitly commands in 1 Tim. 3:2,12, Titus 1:6, etc. that a man is to be SATISFIED IN CHRIST with having 1 wife!
@Shulamitefire LOL! "REAL" persecution? Yeah, I think women and children (as well as men) being forced out of their homes, being raped, murdered by mobs, and then being ORDERED out of the UNITED STATES by the PRESIDENT is in fact "REAL PERSECUTION"! You need to do some more research bud.
@motown75 LDS are not being persecuted today as regards REAL persecution, so why should you be mistaken or pretend that they are?
AND if you want to read past the sanitized, revisionist history provided to prop up & spoon feed the faith of the weakest, most wobbling member you may see that much of what Mormonism got they brought on themselves themselves.
@Shulamitefire So if God said polygamy was ok again would it be ok? What's to say God didn't change his mind again? Why is it such a gross sin if God himself was OK with it at one point in time? How can you compare an act that God ordained at one time, with another act that has been the epitome of sin (besides murder) since the beginning of time? Scripture also says that God is the same yesterday, today, and forever.. If He changed His mind on polygamy, isn't this false?
@motown75 I am waiting for you to express how you would attempt to explain away the explicit commands given by God under the NEW Testament COVENANT at 1 Tim. 3:2, 12, Titus 1:6 that a man is to be SATISFIED IN CHRIST with having ONE WIFE.
@Shulamitefire and to answer your question.. The difference, just as it was in the Old Testament, is that when God ordains it, then it is for His purposes, and it is right.
@motown75 What you really should say is: on the basis of Smith say so, not use the Name of Christ & religious sounding language & pretense to dress up perversion. Smith: gold, glory, girls.
@Shulamitefire Not sure which question.. The one that the Mormon church would still practice polygamy today if it were legal? This is obsurd as the Mormon church exists in many countries where polygamy IS in fact legal, and the church does NOT practice it anywhere.
@motown75 What is the actual difference as pertains to polygamy, precept & practice between Warren Jeffs > Joe Smith & Brigham Young? What of the practice of POLYANDRY?
@Shulamitefire I've already answered that question.. That's like saying why didn't Moses' next door neighbor prophesy and deliver the 10 Commandments? God's work is done by worthy individuals that are led by his spirit and ordained to do His work the way He wants it done. One is ordained of God, one is not. And I'm not sure why/where polyandry is even coming from or why it is even relevant.
@motown75 Polyandry is relevant because in Joe Smith's not enduring sound doctrine nor abiding wholesome living same went hand in hand with polygamy. Will you excuse polyandry also on the basis of SIMPLE SMITH SAY-SO? You do realize there is no Biblical basis nor Scriptural foundation for it?
It is well to look to the roots of the Mormon religion in light of its hypocritical opposition to same sex marriage WHILST defending the pernicious & perverted practices of polygamy & polyandry.
@Shulamitefire I do study my church's history, and it's wrong for you to say no doubt the LDS church would be practicing polygamy today if it hadn't been for government coming down against it.
It's a civil rights issue, it's NOT something people get to vote on, it's something that should be granted, equality for all citizens, that sort of thing. If the bigots don't like it, they can fuck off. They shouldn't get a vote.
If slavery had been put up to votes, it'd still be here today. It's not a tyranny of the majority.
Wow, you're misinformed Turks! First of all, LDS people aka "Mormons" do not practice nor wish to practice polygamy. That was a commandment in the 1800's and early 1900's which was then banished by the Church when it became illegal. Do you understand that? We don't practice it anymore. Now, for you to bag on ANYONE, church or person, who speaks out for what they believe...that's very anti-American. Gay people can speak out and spend $ to do so, it's their right. So, this our right. :) Done.
Then dont bring ( Tuuliska) this homosexual , I wont to wear a white gown and walk down the aisle shit on me! If your gay and lobby for benefits at the work place for a life partner , there is a case. But to parade around protesting a that they are being discriminated against because they are excluded from the secrament of marrige is clearly an attack on faith based unions.
Is this an anti-religion sentiment? If it is, then as insulting as it is, I'd let it fly. But if you're trying to say that Mormonism is somehow worse than other religions then you should try to back your statement with at least some form of argument and/or evidence.
@Selay47 In the news- Polygamy all the time; missionaries annoying the crap out of people; and also the religion itself. They worship some hallucinating madman who created some freakish tablets (that then mysteriously disappeared) and "translated" babble in some retard language that he made up. I have seen moronism for myself, and judge it accordingly.
Sir, whilst I thank you for no personal attacks, I must be honest- I don’t care if I insult any morons or their bull**** religion (cult).
@bossendenwoodconvict what does a typical Mormon write like anyway? I know a Mormon guy who wrote a book "Freedom from Conscience -- Melanie's Journey" which is about a young female serial killer. There are parts that are intensely graphic in regards to violence but I do admit the sex scenes between the two main female characters are left more to the imagination. The point is, there is no "typical" Mormon style of writing.
We respect ur rights or your freedom of speech... But it doesn't give u either the right to stop us frm telling the world of our message of faith & of our beliefs. We believe these r very critical issues regarding morality. The truth will always b the truth whatever ur beliefs or choices are.U can distort the truth.. But we just can't let things happen bec w were just too passive w/ these things. We are here to actively fight immorality in its all forms. But in the end it is still urs to decide.
@bossendenwoodconvict hahah tahts just another lie that ppl came up with. how may times are ya people going to try to bring us down when all you are really doing is bulding us up with all the crap that ya say and do and think. It just helps us grow are faith int he Lords Jesus Christ and his church.. sorry dude God! made a Man and a Women not to dudes or to girls so get over it.... if you want to chose that path fin but dont talk trash about your church. thank you and God Bless you
@bossendenwoodconvict Yes I'm an active Latter Day Saint! would be the correct term. Mormom is just a name that the world has given us. Because of The Book of Mormon, why do you ask?
@luishernandez08 Well it just sounds like slang in places, I mean words such as "dude." Also some spelling mistakes. I thought mormons were supposed to be perfect, or at least striving for perfection!
@bossendenwoodconvict Sorry to say that I am not perfect DUDE! but that's just how I talk I am not going to talk any other way or how ppl think I should be talking... and yes! I not the best speller in the world but I can sure the heck tell you what you are saying is all wrong!
@luishernandez08 Well Dude, the Dudes who set up the mormon church were just out to get chicks.
They didn't have chick magnets (such as cars ) in those days, so Smith cooked up a religion and kept quoting God in order to get women to sleep with him.
@bossendenwoodconvict Hahahaah you make me LOL! I don't even know why I bother with people like you who don't see the truth right when its in front of you/them.. hahah
I spoke to people from California the day after this election. One person said that they voted NO and they were against gay marriage. Another person voted YES and they were for gay marriage. On the day of this election some people didn't even know that YES meant NO, and that NO meant YES.
Wouldn't it be nice to have an election where YES means YES, and NO means NO.
wow seriously guys stop being such dicks I mean i get where you're coming from but honestly you are being religious bigots. Also get some of your facts right. Like the fact that mormons don't believe that people go to hell. There are actually three degrees of heaven doy. Make sure you do your research before you actually bash them.
we dont want polygamy. (im mormon) anyone who claims to be mormon but also wants to be a polygamist is not a true mormon and if they act on that want they will be excommunicated as soon as possible. we have not practiced polygamy for over 150 years. thats like telling a catholic that they burn witches. get ur facts right people!
He didn't say that Mormons still practise polygamy; he said that your nation took the right of polygamy away from you. I'm more than sure that Mormons gave up practising polygamy to ensure the statehood of Utah.
I did not make a Judgement. I made an observation, and knowledge is not born out of membership; if so you could debunk the entire field of history (ie; You could say that an expert on Norse mythology was wrong simply because he wasn't a Viking. So I ask you, If the abandonment of polygamy was not made to ensure the Statehood of Utah, then why did the Mormons abandon the practice?
We believe polygamy was banished because the commandment became unnecessary and that it was fulfilled (and by commandment, I refer to "multiply and replenish the Earth"). Obviously anyone can debunk anything, I understand that. We have strong beliefs and morals, we're proud of them and stand by them. This matter is the Church and it's members standing up for what they believe are good and true...? What exactly are you "observing"? We invested money and time to stand up for what we believe in???
@jtuiaana I'll allow your argument as a valid counter my latter; I brought an external interpretation of the reasoning therefore both arguments are acceptable because neither directly contradicts the ensure in whole. It can easily be seen as the Mormons for whatever reason gave up polygamy and as a result Utah was granted statehood. However, my observation was that he did not say that Mormons still want polygamy he proposed that your right was taken from you, and he phrases it as a question.
@Selay47 im sorry but i can not fully answer your question. there are lots of reasons that we did abandon the practice. im 13 and i dont fully understand it myself. but i do have faith in my church and i beleive we did abandon the practice for good reasons. not just so utah became a state. i honestly wish i could answer your question and share that knowledge with you but i dont know the answer. if you would like to know it you can visit lds.org or talk to a missionary from the mormon church
I did have a conversation with two missionaries here in Britain, but they contradicted each other about almost everything they talked about. One of them came across as compassionate but the other one came across as a bigot. I'm only fifteen myself; they gave me the book of Mormon which seems to me like any other religious document.
@Selay47 well thank you for at least talking to some missionarys and not just makeing a quick judgment. im very dissapointed in my church that they could not explain to u and i feel terrible that i can not explain myself. if u do happen to still be interested i would talk to some different missionaries and just try reading some of the book of mormon.
The Mormon church is becoming a powerhouse, they got that way by burning mens souls and causing so called sinners to fall ill, with all types of infirminties. the church is a false altar. here speaks someone with experience.
and whos writing the subtitles jesus christ Ill do it better and maybe cheaper
robertmck12 4 days ago
whers the hair ?
robertmck12 4 days ago
Isn't this the church that once said that black people are of an inferior, demonic race?
ThePhantom135 1 week ago
You should probably get your fact right before posting shit on mormons. There is a difference between LDS and FLDS. When you are saying stuff about having multiple wives, that would be FLDS which not part of the LDS church. FLDS is The Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, LDS is the Church of Latter-Day Saints. SOOO probably should do some research before you talk about Mormons. Just saying.
perryblake113 1 week ago
there is no jealousy when you think of what homo's lifestyle results in: death, pain, agony by HIV/AIDS, etc. What is to be jealous of? It's sad and the homo's when they get down to the truth, know the lifestyle is painful, suffering, death, and partners that do not stay, are not committed, always looking to defile themselves more, never satisfied. It's true.
hross233 1 week ago
@63emmz stfu about us gay people fine be Mormon but don't be a stupid homophobe.
bazinga1964 1 week ago
i feel so sory for the mormons always getting attacked,when theyre such beautiful people..its not their fault that gays are grosse and demands acceptance from everyone..and fuck bill maher the ugly wanker..and as for that fat shit talking..fix your eyebrows why dont ya hahaha
63emmz 3 weeks ago
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"Equality" and "human rights" is Orwellian double-speak for
taking rights away from some people and giving them to others.
Basically, women, Jews, homosexuals and atheists have human rights,
whereas men, Christians, Muslims and heterosexuals don't.
Welcome to the New World Order.
hegadem 1 month ago
"Equality" and "human rights" is Orwellian double-speak for
taking rights away from some people and giving them to others.
Basically, women, Jews, homosexuals and atheists have human rights,
whereas men, Christians, Muslims and heterosexuals don't.
Welcome to the New World Order.
hegadem 1 month ago
@Xarnius, the US is not a theocracy & there is a separation of church & state hence, cant use one's religion for public laws. Lets not forget that mainstream christianity does consider the LDS as a cult. I am atheist however, I do believe in the right of those to believe in what they wish; religion and gvt has no business to dictate what one can and cannot do with their body. It is your right to choose how you conduct yourself but you have no rights to push your religious beliefs on others.
nicosbsm 1 month ago
Why are the Mormon's taking flack for something that is clearly taught against in every Christian bible? It seems Romney takes flack if he goes to the Bible or doesn't go to the Bible - YET if a religion does, they are then told they are being intolerant. Should we also start picking and choosing other parts to omit from the Bible? How about adultery, hey what's strong families mean right? How about murder, stealing... are we seeing a pattern here?
Xarnius 1 month ago
oh, is that how it goes? Adopt a religion you don't agree with? hmm
MarkAllenChannel 1 month ago
I'm a gay man, and I'm a mormon born and raised. I don't agree with everything in my religion, but who does? We can look at any religion and see people protesting their religion on the beliefs in their faith. But lets get it straight - Today Mormons do not practice Polygamy. Those groups that do are sects that broke away from the religion. Before you bash a faith, be sure you have your facts straight.
zoinks63 1 month ago
i am okay w polygamy and gay marriage. the gov should stay out of marriage anyway.
me25422 1 month ago
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themoodyfamily1 1 month ago
lets castrate him
Beal148 1 month ago
Fuck the Mormons. As Bill Maher said it's like Scientology without the celebrities. :P
Crazy shit
Spaghettimonster777 2 months ago
Notice the closed captioning is waaaaay off...it's misspelling and screwing it up while he talks. HAHAHA...
pagalmasala 2 months ago
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being gay is an abomination. And should be frowned a pawn. honestly what message are you spreading when your gay? A BAD ONE
NWOLDS 2 months ago
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@NWOLDS: "And should be frowned a pawn."
-- LOL. Lemme guess: Mormon AND home-schooled. Yes?
hanohanonacowboy 2 months ago
@NWOLDS Frowned a pawn?..............Really? Okay, it's frowned upon. One more thing......Are you like, 12.
1norville 1 month ago
I was recently baptised in the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. I'm 20 years old and have previously been an Atheist.
I agree with the book.
I don't agree with the church.
xtelevisionset 2 months ago
@xtelevisionset are you aware that what church does is inspired by the book?! If not you're an idiot and can't fathom how could you be an atheist. Are you aware LDS was racist against black people, and called their skin a CURSE?! I doubt you read BoM.
linkuei83 2 months ago
Its funny.......cuz he is fat xD, Now listen u fktard, all u said didnt make sense at all. The big gigantic church......IS A TEMPLE. If u dont even know what they are called, how can you be sure that what ure saying its true??. Get a life dude.
JeffTV1 2 months ago
you're not funny... you're fat and annoying.
Nmoney379 2 months ago
You are an idiot, nothing you say makes sense, your logical arguments sound like a 4 yr old whining, who let this guy on the internet?
jedashford 2 months ago
I want to make this clear if you want to talk of our religion please get it right, we are not mormons that is the name of the book we are the church of jesus christ of latter day saints and we love everyone but it says in the bible that god created man and women and they should replenish the earth. Also we are not polygamist they had been along time ago when joseph smith was around and that was because their were more women than men and they needed men to help support their families.
sheena4042 2 months ago
@sheena4042 so you needed to fuck em women to support em? What happened to donating and supporting, sounds more like prostitution lol. Oh and please explain why LDS was against black people, BoM calls it a curse or i am simply delusional?
linkuei83 2 months ago
@sheena4042: "we are not mormons that is the name of the book "
-- Uh... what's the name of your famous choir again?
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"we are not polygamist"
-- If you are sealed in your temple, sheena, how long does your marriage last?
If you die and your husband re-marries, is he still married to you?
If that wife dies and he marries a third one, how many wives will he have for eternity? Now, what do we call the practice of having more than one wife?
(Hint: starts with a "P"...)
hanohanonacowboy 2 months ago
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chelo20101000 2 months ago
@chelo20101000 What were you smoking when you wrote this?
1norville 1 month ago
-_- obviously cowboy Steve was late to the make believe party based on older religions including the cults of Dionysus, Apollo and Pan raped thrown into a book full of contradictions compiled by mysterious authors who apparently wrote about their own deaths held all together by the ridiculous idea that man is corrupted from what some jerk off did in the past because their imaginary friend planted a tree there for no reason while putting a talking snake in the garden with them. -_-
TheDreadedlife 2 months ago 2
Mormons are just pissed off at the gays because they found a loophole in the system.
123whatmeworry 2 months ago
HELP LEGALIZE PEDOPHILIA AND BESTIALITY!!!
narcolepticmunky 2 months ago
@narcolepticmunky why?
Ebolahill88 2 months ago
@Ebolahill88 Shouldn't they have rights too?
narcolepticmunky 2 months ago
@narcolepticmunky no
Ebolahill88 2 months ago
god made adam and eve not adam and steve . and if you read the bible you will agree with this go mormons
cowboy104th 3 months ago
@cowboy104th So, religion has no place in politics. If you read the bible, you would know this. Just because someone believes in a god that says no gay marriage, it doesn't mean everyone believe in that. You can't legally force your beliefs on others. Anti-gay marriage is unconstitutional.
TheBookEscape 2 months ago
@cowboy104th the bible doesn't control law, dildo. i have read the bible, and i don't agree with you. so i guess your prediction was bogus. you have to have a SECULAR basis to ban the right of gay couples to be recognized as married by the state. there isn't one. "god doesn't like it" is not a justification under our system.
slyjokerg 2 months ago 4
@cowboy104th Why do you talk as if the bible came out last week? Of course people have read about Adam and Eve. That's not going to make people not understand their are people who are more attracted to the same sex. Gay people don't read it, and their same sex attraction goes away, and they discover a deeper attraction for the opposite sex.
1norville 1 month ago
jerk
tomstruble1 3 months ago
I'm not a Mormon and I'm not gay, but from an outside point of view, I'd say that if gays can get married, then Mormons should be able to marry more than one wife if their religion permits or encourages it. I don't understand why there are laws that prohibit marriages among adults. Let gays marry each other, let Mormons marry multiple wives, and let everyone be happy. No one should force their beliefs or values on anyone else.
iMaKeUsHoOk 3 months ago
@iMaKeUsHoOk the polygamy argument is a red herring. the issue isn't about being able to marry multiple people. the issue is about equal protection. the law says a person can marry the consenting adult of their choice, but only from within a set determined by the state. that is discriminatory. for discrimination to exist, there has to be a justification for it that satisfies, at minimum, the rational basis test of substantive due process. there is no such basis to deny same sex marriage.
slyjokerg 2 months ago
I'm sorry but get a life! Stop talking about our religion its not cool and just because we have WAY better standards than the rest of y'all doesn't mean you can talk bad about us. and over 14 million people are Mormons on this earth. and we didn't take away your way of life and you didn't take away our way of life. Just saying.
ldsmormongirl3 3 months ago
@ldsmormongirl3 LOL. way to baselessly assert superiority. and the reason that someone "can't talk about" you is... freedom of speech. you "standards" have nothing to do with anyone's ability to talk about you. no one is trying to take away your way of life, but YOU people DO try to control people's lives. that is precisely what prop 8 was for.
slyjokerg 2 months ago
The fact is: It doesn't matter what anyone says or does to the LDS church. Mormons not only believe, but know that there is more to life than living on this Earth. The church will never fall again and will always have the strength to overcome anything.
Phoxus 3 months ago
@Phoxus "The fact is: It doesn't matter what anyone says or does to the LDS church. Mormons not only believe, but know that there is more to life than living on this Earth." ummmm, you just made a declaration of something that you can't possibly know... not that that is unique to mormons.
slyjokerg 2 months ago
Oh shut up stupid, you chose Cinderello and this nation is in ruin, and you still talking like you know everything. Go strait to hell, moooorron. No all the mormons are polygamy, and Ronmey is not one of them. Ronmey is going to be the next president you want it or not. f----y
ycymara 3 months ago
Mormons don't have "churches" they have temples. I think we all need to go to the nearest rock quarry, find a "seer stone" (???) and stick it in hat, and "read it". If we come to the same "revelation" that Jim Jones...um I mean, uh, oh yeah, Joseph Smith had, then we all should become "mormons". if not, Mormonism needs flushed.
bheadh 3 months ago
Polygamy SHOULD BE LEGAL among CONSENTING ADULTS.
Not what MORmON "profit" Joseph Smif did with desperate, vulnerable teen-aged girls. Heven married other living men's wives.
robertgift 3 months ago
The visual text is terrible, laughably incorrect. No one checks it?
2PercyCTV - Well said.
robertgift 3 months ago
"You don't change public policy to accommodate a few. You shape public policy based on what's beneficial to the society as a whole."
What are the benefits of society as a whole as far as straight marriage? Let's see. They get tax breaks. That's pretty much it. What could harm society if gay people marry?...Nothing. In fact, it helps kids get out of the adoption system and into homes that are as compatible as straight couples homes.
PercyCTV 4 months ago 17
JUst to let you know mormons are more helpful then anyone alive espacially your mom so you can really not say anything because you truly dont know the religion so plz not be speaking about our religion
cutierock1998 4 months ago
Tony (the bigot) Perkins never answers exactly how gay marriage hurts society.
TheSnoopy1750 4 months ago
the religious right gives God a bad name.
jwallbanger 4 months ago
Actually, that would be a good form of torture if you went to war with Mormon's and captured them. Expose them to gay porn and anally rape their men, especially the leaders, like the prophet. Think about that lasting psychological damage if real gay men gave them the big bone. Most real gay men would not, but a bunch of long-time prisoners would, especially those in Utah. They would know that experience well and gladly do it as a service to their fellow citizens. Torture? maybe, or just love
Foreshadow44 4 months ago
Yes, and do your protest in a civil manner, it would make the Mormon's so anger as your not doing something they can point to, and the message will be there, and over time they will not like it and could not keep up. You would win.
Foreshadow44 4 months ago
They should protest in Salt Lake City. Do it outside the Tabernacle. I have been there. I thought it was a nice place, but if the Mormon's wants to be political, know this the city of Salt Lake is a very quite place. Use your public freedom of speech rights. When they clamp down on you, they will be moving against your civil rights and be in the wrong and will lose in a legal case. Know that your on the side that will win. Unless the supreme court goes against the Bill of Rights but otherwise...
Foreshadow44 4 months ago
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Stupid ignorant people should be shot
Rapidsafire 6 months ago
Please the young Turks have their heads up their butts and so dose this mean spirited and false story.
jackspal 6 months ago
What a Bigot!
davidsmb1 6 months ago
I'm for gay marriage, but I'm also for polygamy, mainly because I want to have a wife for everyday of the week
cmau14 6 months ago
when i was younger, i thought mormon meant muslim... how wrong was i? XD
wuzzupl 6 months ago
@Pooternackle5
All religions could use a good reconstruction job. They can examine their foundations, find the cracks, do a major demolition job on all non-loving parts, then rebuild the foundation with love and only love. The religious organization can then be redesigned from there.
For example, the Roman Catholic Empire can sell the Vatican, which is built on a foundation of political power. Then they can relocate to a small and humble building and with the Vatican proceeds, end world hunger.
eastariel 6 months ago
@Pooternackle5
That reminds me of the Bible. The New Testament reveals the Old Testament as being heresy.
Every religion has its own commandments to follow, as guidelines for healthy, spiritual living. That's our right to religious freedom in America.
Religions are free to break the "commandments" of other religions. Can't we enjoy our own religions without bossing other religions around?
eastariel 6 months ago
I appreciate the Mormon Church, but I don't believe it's perfect -- or even close.
What is it with churches and sex? Is that all they preach about these days? No wonder they have all those men running for their computers after church with their pants down.
I bet those homophobes all watch gay porn.
So many churches are so busy condemning love that they forgot to criticize hate.
"Love thy neighbor." ~ Jesus Christ
He didn't say that neighbor had to be heterosexual.
eastariel 6 months ago
Why shouldn't a consensual polygamist enjoy these same "equal rights" that the homosexuals and transvestites are fighting for? Shouldn't they be able to "marry who they love?" Why do you care if they get married?
GAYS ARE THE BIGGEST HYPOCRITES, NUFF SAID. I DARE YOU TO PROVE ME WRONG.
llouldeng 7 months ago
@llouldeng two consenting adults (homosexuals) is not the same as a group of people (polygamists)
you want hypocrisy at its biggest?
religions claiming they arent hating gays, they just dont want them having equal rights
idaman12345 6 months ago 14
@idaman12345 -- And who exactly are you to say that Consensual polygamists and imbreds should be discriminated from marriage? What happened to all this "marry who I love" "equal rights" "it doesn't affect me" "second class citizen" HORSESHI*? You'd think for all the gay rainbow flag waving pride and propaganda that gays put out, that the LGBT would be FIRST IN LINE to welcome alternative relationships to enjoy marriage rights that ALL citizens should be entitled to.
llouldeng 6 months ago
@idaman12345 homosexuality is 100% wrong, we should put all gays and lesbians in the gas chamber and cremate them alive, kill them all period. very disgusting, filthy, evil nasty kill them all. for God's sake.
CWMaua12 1 month ago
@CWMaua12 so killing your fellow man is right?
you might want to learn right from wrong
idaman12345 1 month ago
@CWMaua12 you have powerful emotional reaction to homosexuals,is it your favorite topic?
robertmck12 4 days ago
@idaman12345 Should people that are in to BEASTIALITY & INCEST have equal rights?
sanjoseguy527 4 weeks ago
@sanjoseguy527
First off, it's spelled "bestiality" not "BEASTIALITY"
Secondly, animals are pets and game. Property and food. Not citizens. Not to mention the fact that animals are incapable of comprehending legal contracts, which marriage, either gay or straight, is. Therefore to bring up this absurdity as though pets could have the same rights as humans under the law is not only absurd, but laughably and pattently ridiculous.
As far as incest goes, There's a reason why many states
GojyotheFeared 3 weeks ago
@GojyotheFeared First off, have you ever heard of TYPO?
Secondly, this is NOT ENGLISH. It is the internet & I don't give a damn about my typing/
Thirdly, I agree with your "secondly."
Lastly, re: "As far as incest goes, There's a reason why many states" since you want to be an English teacher above is incorrect grammer!! HYPOCRITE!!
sanjoseguy527 3 weeks ago
@sanjoseguy527
First off, yes I have. (and this is a video spoken in english and therefore understandable to those who comprehend the english language. Yes I know the internet is accessable to people of various cultures and languages. Yet logic stands to reason that if you didn't understand english, you wouldn't be watching or commenting on this video in english)
Secondly, if you agree, then why bring it up as though animals could have any similar rights to humans, much less a specific
GojyotheFeared 3 weeks ago
subsocial group of humans?
Third, obviously you are the only one capable of making a typo. (obvious sarkasm with obvious typo.)
GojyotheFeared 3 weeks ago
don't allow for it. I'm not going to say whether I think it is right or wrong, but you broached the subject, so I'll stick to the facts as they stand.
As I was saying, there's a reason why most states don't allow for it. It poses several undue health risks to both the mother and the child product of such a relationship. That's why there's laws in place to try and deter people from such relationships.
Again, whether I think it's right or wrong I suppose isn't for me to say. But neither is
GojyotheFeared 3 weeks ago
it for you to say that people shouldn't marry simply because of their genders.
GojyotheFeared 3 weeks ago
Was the judge a mormon? I really dont know so if anybody does please tell me. If he was then yes bitch about it but still dont put all that shit on the "MORMONS" shoulders, put it on the one mormon that made it illegal. IF he wasnt then my argument still stands.
djplake 7 months ago
Im not aiming any of my comments towards anybody but this dumb bastard in the video. If he wants to band boys then he should vote for that, if he doesnt then he shouldnt care who else doesnt and just leave it alone. Its illegal, mormons, blacks, whites, mexicans, jews, catholics, muslims, ALL KINDS OF POEPLE voted against it. Dont hate on the mormons just to fit in. Im guessing all turks are tv hungry arrogant fucks just because you are right? Get a life and do your fuckin homework pal.
djplake 7 months ago
@xCH3573Rx California should have plaid it smart and kept their money and still voted how they want. Leave religion out of it. IF YA DONT LIKE IT THEN DONT BE A MORMON AND GO VOTE FOR GAY MARRAIGE WHEN IT SHOWS ITS FACE AGAIN. PLAIN AND SIMPLE
djplake 7 months ago
is it your right to be gay? yup it is... is it legal to be married and be gay NO to completely different fucking things. ITS MY RIGHT TO SMOKE WEED, IS IT LEGAL?? NOPE. TELL YA WHAT MOTHER FUCKER, LEGALIZE WEED AND IM SURE THEY WILL LEGALIZE GAY MARRAIGE.
djplake 7 months ago
THE YOUNG TURKS?? HAHA WE ARE LISTENING TO FUCKING TERRORISTS SAY THAT MORMON PEOPLE ARE FUCKED UP CAUSE THEY DONT LIKE GAYS? FUCK OFF AND GO BLOW UP A BUILDING. PLEASE THE OWNER OR WRITER FOR THIS GROUP "THEYOUNGTURKS" PLEASE WRITE ME BACK SO I CAN MAKE YOUR WHOLE SHOW A FUCKIN JOKE LIKE IT IS. IM NOT EVEN THE MORMON UR ALL TALKING SHIT ON BUT IDE LOVE TO STAND UP FOR THEM AND PROVE YOU TO BE A GOD DAMN RETARD.
djplake 7 months ago
so..... go on any gay hating YouTube video and find a bunch of ugly comments from people who have nothing but hate in their hearts and then people try to defend their sexuality.... then they go and hate on other people.... hmmmmm terrible video and I feel sorry for everyone that is caught up in all this and the news people who fire up people even more.
friendfriendism 7 months ago
this is not true, but yes, a long time ago, mormons did do this. not anymore. & no, were dont hate gays, we are against the same sex marriage. thats all.
samantharhoades 7 months ago
@samantharhoades you dont hate gays, you are just against them having equal rights
idaman12345 7 months ago
@idaman12345 yeahh i bet people are like that. not the whole religion though. everyone has their own opinion. im mormon & im not against them having equal rights, i just dont think its the right thing to do.
samantharhoades 7 months ago
@ BrandroidAqw that is not true. that may be your belief but its not the belief of EVERY latter-day saint
utahstate1992 7 months ago
Me as a Mormon and my church thinks us letting them get married means we all get sent to hell
BrandroidAqw 7 months ago
@BrandroidAqw Just another reason to show how silly your church is.
GumboWatches 7 months ago
Apparently I need to clear up another ridiculous LIE about the Mormon church.. POLYANDRY has NEVER been practiced by the Mormon church, EVER.
motown75 7 months ago
@motown75 just polygamy as their are sexist, aswell as racist.
GumboWatches 7 months ago
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YEAH, which is why I said that even in the countries that allows polygamy, the church DOES NOT PRACTICE IT. you obviously aren't reading my posts, so I'm not going to waste any more time
motown75 7 months ago
So what's your answer as to God changing His mind? It happened once so doesn't that mean it COULD happen again? And what about the fact that He changed His mind? Doesn't that mean this is all just a big lie? The fact of the matter is it is up to each of us INDIVIDUALLY to find out for ourselves what is true and what isn't, that is the role of His Spirit, to testify the truthfulness of ALL things.. We are all accountable for our efforts in seeking out His truths.
motown75 7 months ago in playlist Anti crap
@motown75 f polygamy was practiced where it is legal & not practiced where it is illegal - it would REINFORCE the reality that the PART of the church which does not practice polygamy is only not practicing it BECAUSE it is illegal.
LDS church has been over-much concerned about their public image, mistakenly wont to help Jesus build His church & that with PR machinery, & too, especially in view of their deep decline in growth, missionary success & internet hemorrhagic since the 1980s & Prop 8.
Shulamitefire 7 months ago
And as far as his "GIGANTIC MORMON CHURCH" reference, here is another FACT: NONE of the officials or leaders of the Mormon church get paid one dime! It is a church based on service and charity! The Mormon church is CONSTANTLY working side by side with the Red Cross when disaster strikes throughout the entire world to feed, cloth, and shelter the people in need. The Mormon church has also donated money to other churches and helps thousands of people regularly, some of which not even members.
motown75 7 months ago
Ok WORLD you need to stop being SHEEP and listening to people like this MORON (not Mormon) and look into issues FOR YOUR SELF. Here is a FACT: 1) The Mormon church stopped practicing polygamy in the 1800's when it became illegal in the United States. ALSO- If you are "Christian" and you believe homosexuality is not a serious sin, you may want to read the King James Bible again. Homosexuality is NOT acceptable in the eyes of God, but does He love us all? YES, as we should all love each other.
motown75 7 months ago
This guy is such a jerk. Does he realize Mormons don't practice polygamy? And he sure has a way of exagerating things.
heyman537 7 months ago
@heyman537 LDS eventually ceased the pernicious practice of polygamy because the U.S. government intervened. Many men were sent to jail. Utah was refused statehood unless they complied. Study your church's history.
No doubt LDS would be practicing the perversion of polygamy today if it was legal.
Why do you think polygamy is actually illegal today?
What does the holy New Testament tell us about a husband being satisfied in Christ by one wife?
Shulamitefire 7 months ago
@Shulamitefire What does the Bible tell us about Homosexuality??? How about Sodom and Gomorrah????? What is your answer to "Christians" that don't condemn homosexuality? I'm not talking about condeming the PEOPLE that are CHOOSING to be homosexual, I'm talking about the practice of something that was CONDEMNED in the Bible? SOMETHING THAT WAS SO WICKED IT WAS PUNISHED BY GOD DESTROYING ENTIRE CITIES! Or are you a Politically Correct Christian that believes being gay is OK?
motown75 7 months ago
@motown75 I have always agreed that homosexuality is wicked. ROMANS 1 makes that luminously clear.
It should be preached that polygamy ALSO IS sin. It is not right for the Mormon churches (plural) to uphold the sin of polygamy; such is HYPOCRITICAL.
LDS still agree with the principle as it is set forth in D&C 132. What is the difference between WARREN JEFFS & JOE SMITH in terms of polygamy, precept & practice?
Do you want to answer the questions I asked of you in my first post? Thanks.
Shulamitefire 7 months ago
@Shulamitefire So what are your thoughts regarding King David and Solomon?? Why is it that only the Mormon church is persecuted for polygamy? Were these two men from the Bible not Prophets? What about them?
motown75 7 months ago in playlist Anti crap
@motown75 What is the actual difference as pertains to polygamy, precept & practice between Warren Jeffs & Joe Smith & Brigham Young? What of POLYANDRY?
Persecution? Watch videos on my channel concerning that which is REAL persecution.
Even if polygamy was condoned/commanded by God in the O.T. which it most definitely was not, CHRISTIANS are NOW under *the New Covenant..*
The N.T. explicitly commands in 1 Tim. 3:2,12, Titus 1:6, etc. that a man is to be SATISFIED IN CHRIST with having 1 wife!
Shulamitefire 7 months ago
@Shulamitefire LOL! "REAL" persecution? Yeah, I think women and children (as well as men) being forced out of their homes, being raped, murdered by mobs, and then being ORDERED out of the UNITED STATES by the PRESIDENT is in fact "REAL PERSECUTION"! You need to do some more research bud.
motown75 7 months ago in playlist Anti crap
@motown75 LDS are not being persecuted today as regards REAL persecution, so why should you be mistaken or pretend that they are?
AND if you want to read past the sanitized, revisionist history provided to prop up & spoon feed the faith of the weakest, most wobbling member you may see that much of what Mormonism got they brought on themselves themselves.
Shulamitefire 7 months ago
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@Shulamitefire wow.. now I know you haven't done your research.. good luck
motown75 7 months ago in playlist Anti crap
@Shulamitefire So if God said polygamy was ok again would it be ok? What's to say God didn't change his mind again? Why is it such a gross sin if God himself was OK with it at one point in time? How can you compare an act that God ordained at one time, with another act that has been the epitome of sin (besides murder) since the beginning of time? Scripture also says that God is the same yesterday, today, and forever.. If He changed His mind on polygamy, isn't this false?
motown75 7 months ago in playlist Anti crap
@motown75 I am waiting for you to express how you would attempt to explain away the explicit commands given by God under the NEW Testament COVENANT at 1 Tim. 3:2, 12, Titus 1:6 that a man is to be SATISFIED IN CHRIST with having ONE WIFE.
Polygamy - What Love Is This ? !
Shulamitefire 7 months ago
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@Shulamitefire for the THIRD or FOURTH time.. I've ALREADY answered your questions.. you need to READ my posts.
motown75 7 months ago
@Shulamitefire and to answer your question.. The difference, just as it was in the Old Testament, is that when God ordains it, then it is for His purposes, and it is right.
motown75 7 months ago in playlist Anti crap
@motown75 What you really should say is: on the basis of Smith say so, not use the Name of Christ & religious sounding language & pretense to dress up perversion. Smith: gold, glory, girls.
Shulamitefire 7 months ago
@Shulamitefire Not sure which question.. The one that the Mormon church would still practice polygamy today if it were legal? This is obsurd as the Mormon church exists in many countries where polygamy IS in fact legal, and the church does NOT practice it anywhere.
motown75 7 months ago in playlist Anti crap
@motown75 What is the actual difference as pertains to polygamy, precept & practice between Warren Jeffs > Joe Smith & Brigham Young? What of the practice of POLYANDRY?
Shulamitefire 7 months ago
@Shulamitefire I've already answered that question.. That's like saying why didn't Moses' next door neighbor prophesy and deliver the 10 Commandments? God's work is done by worthy individuals that are led by his spirit and ordained to do His work the way He wants it done. One is ordained of God, one is not. And I'm not sure why/where polyandry is even coming from or why it is even relevant.
motown75 7 months ago in playlist Anti crap
@motown75 Can you address yourself to any difference you perceive between Warren Jeffs, Joe Smith & Brigham Young as pertains to polygamy.
This I think is at least the third time I have asked... thanks in advance.
Shulamitefire 7 months ago
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@Shulamitefire Are you not reading my posts? I've already answered your question twice.
motown75 7 months ago in playlist Anti crap
@motown75 Polyandry is relevant because in Joe Smith's not enduring sound doctrine nor abiding wholesome living same went hand in hand with polygamy. Will you excuse polyandry also on the basis of SIMPLE SMITH SAY-SO? You do realize there is no Biblical basis nor Scriptural foundation for it?
It is well to look to the roots of the Mormon religion in light of its hypocritical opposition to same sex marriage WHILST defending the pernicious & perverted practices of polygamy & polyandry.
Shulamitefire 7 months ago in playlist Anti crap
@motown75 people are born gay, they dont choose to be that way
idaman12345 7 months ago
@idaman12345 LOL!!! Go tell that to the THOUSANDS of people who USED to CHOOSE to be gay, who no longer are.
motown75 7 months ago
@Shulamitefire I do study my church's history, and it's wrong for you to say no doubt the LDS church would be practicing polygamy today if it hadn't been for government coming down against it.
heyman537 6 months ago
@heyman537 Please, you did not answer my two questions. Thank you. :-)
Shulamitefire 6 months ago
man fuck you go shave your unibrow you piece of shit! fuck all ya'll who hate on mormons!
darthkava3 7 months ago
the the gays and orphans aren't part of society. could someone please explain to me what is so wrong about gay adoption.
thewhatsit104 7 months ago
HAHA this guys an effin retard, go watch this
/watch?v=6CHSVC2nAl8&feature=related
macman13statechamp 7 months ago
Cenk, God only knows what I'd be without you.
point's if you get it.
nitrorev386 7 months ago
Cenk, you're once again wrong.
It's a civil rights issue, it's NOT something people get to vote on, it's something that should be granted, equality for all citizens, that sort of thing. If the bigots don't like it, they can fuck off. They shouldn't get a vote.
If slavery had been put up to votes, it'd still be here today. It's not a tyranny of the majority.
TheSkunkCat 7 months ago
Wow, you're misinformed Turks! First of all, LDS people aka "Mormons" do not practice nor wish to practice polygamy. That was a commandment in the 1800's and early 1900's which was then banished by the Church when it became illegal. Do you understand that? We don't practice it anymore. Now, for you to bag on ANYONE, church or person, who speaks out for what they believe...that's very anti-American. Gay people can speak out and spend $ to do so, it's their right. So, this our right. :) Done.
jtuiaana 7 months ago
Then dont bring ( Tuuliska) this homosexual , I wont to wear a white gown and walk down the aisle shit on me! If your gay and lobby for benefits at the work place for a life partner , there is a case. But to parade around protesting a that they are being discriminated against because they are excluded from the secrament of marrige is clearly an attack on faith based unions.
JohnnyUltra305 7 months ago
moronism is a sick retard cult, just like psychotology. They are a threat to our integrity and must be fought.
UniversalProjectCo 7 months ago
@UniversalProjectCo
Is this an anti-religion sentiment? If it is, then as insulting as it is, I'd let it fly. But if you're trying to say that Mormonism is somehow worse than other religions then you should try to back your statement with at least some form of argument and/or evidence.
Selay47 7 months ago
@Selay47 In the news- Polygamy all the time; missionaries annoying the crap out of people; and also the religion itself. They worship some hallucinating madman who created some freakish tablets (that then mysteriously disappeared) and "translated" babble in some retard language that he made up. I have seen moronism for myself, and judge it accordingly.
Sir, whilst I thank you for no personal attacks, I must be honest- I don’t care if I insult any morons or their bull**** religion (cult).
UniversalProjectCo 7 months ago
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UniversalProjectCo 7 months ago
@bossendenwoodconvict what does a typical Mormon write like anyway? I know a Mormon guy who wrote a book "Freedom from Conscience -- Melanie's Journey" which is about a young female serial killer. There are parts that are intensely graphic in regards to violence but I do admit the sex scenes between the two main female characters are left more to the imagination. The point is, there is no "typical" Mormon style of writing.
edwardsson777 7 months ago
watch Joseph Prince on youtube! for knowing grace ppl
ilSomli 7 months ago
I actually have a mormon friend who is Bisexual lol
yinyangangel00 8 months ago
1:16 this guy is retarded
buyhappiness 8 months ago
You better watch out for us gays. We will wave rainbows at you. You know the Mormons find that to be Satanic.
ray0426jh 8 months ago
Jealous is the wrong word... bitter, no, no, no... sad is more like it.
yogaqueen22 8 months ago
We respect ur rights or your freedom of speech... But it doesn't give u either the right to stop us frm telling the world of our message of faith & of our beliefs. We believe these r very critical issues regarding morality. The truth will always b the truth whatever ur beliefs or choices are.U can distort the truth.. But we just can't let things happen bec w were just too passive w/ these things. We are here to actively fight immorality in its all forms. But in the end it is still urs to decide.
n0lram1 8 months ago
@bossendenwoodconvict hahah tahts just another lie that ppl came up with. how may times are ya people going to try to bring us down when all you are really doing is bulding us up with all the crap that ya say and do and think. It just helps us grow are faith int he Lords Jesus Christ and his church.. sorry dude God! made a Man and a Women not to dudes or to girls so get over it.... if you want to chose that path fin but dont talk trash about your church. thank you and God Bless you
luishernandez08 8 months ago
@luishernandez08 Are you an active mormon?
bossendenwoodconvict 8 months ago
@bossendenwoodconvict Yes I'm an active Latter Day Saint! would be the correct term. Mormom is just a name that the world has given us. Because of The Book of Mormon, why do you ask?
luishernandez08 7 months ago
@luishernandez08 You don't write like a typical mormon.
bossendenwoodconvict 7 months ago
@bossendenwoodconvict What do you mean by that? That I don't write like a typical Mormon!?
luishernandez08 7 months ago
@luishernandez08 Well it just sounds like slang in places, I mean words such as "dude." Also some spelling mistakes. I thought mormons were supposed to be perfect, or at least striving for perfection!
bossendenwoodconvict 7 months ago
@bossendenwoodconvict Sorry to say that I am not perfect DUDE! but that's just how I talk I am not going to talk any other way or how ppl think I should be talking... and yes! I not the best speller in the world but I can sure the heck tell you what you are saying is all wrong!
luishernandez08 6 months ago
@luishernandez08 Well Dude, the Dudes who set up the mormon church were just out to get chicks.
They didn't have chick magnets (such as cars ) in those days, so Smith cooked up a religion and kept quoting God in order to get women to sleep with him.
bossendenwoodconvict 6 months ago
@bossendenwoodconvict Hahahaah you make me LOL! I don't even know why I bother with people like you who don't see the truth right when its in front of you/them.. hahah
luishernandez08 6 months ago
And we would spend 20 million more
behemothboy11 9 months ago
I spoke to people from California the day after this election. One person said that they voted NO and they were against gay marriage. Another person voted YES and they were for gay marriage. On the day of this election some people didn't even know that YES meant NO, and that NO meant YES.
Wouldn't it be nice to have an election where YES means YES, and NO means NO.
iamluke123 9 months ago
wow seriously guys stop being such dicks I mean i get where you're coming from but honestly you are being religious bigots. Also get some of your facts right. Like the fact that mormons don't believe that people go to hell. There are actually three degrees of heaven doy. Make sure you do your research before you actually bash them.
DemonDarc 9 months ago
we dont want polygamy. (im mormon) anyone who claims to be mormon but also wants to be a polygamist is not a true mormon and if they act on that want they will be excommunicated as soon as possible. we have not practiced polygamy for over 150 years. thats like telling a catholic that they burn witches. get ur facts right people!
summersidnie 9 months ago
@summersidnie awesome job on what you said there.. (I'm Mormon)
luishernandez08 8 months ago
@summersidnie
He didn't say that Mormons still practise polygamy; he said that your nation took the right of polygamy away from you. I'm more than sure that Mormons gave up practising polygamy to ensure the statehood of Utah.
Selay47 7 months ago
@Selay47 well u cant be more than sure because your not mormon are you? dont make judgments on what you dont know
summersidnie 7 months ago 2
@summersidnie
I did not make a Judgement. I made an observation, and knowledge is not born out of membership; if so you could debunk the entire field of history (ie; You could say that an expert on Norse mythology was wrong simply because he wasn't a Viking. So I ask you, If the abandonment of polygamy was not made to ensure the Statehood of Utah, then why did the Mormons abandon the practice?
Selay47 7 months ago
We believe polygamy was banished because the commandment became unnecessary and that it was fulfilled (and by commandment, I refer to "multiply and replenish the Earth"). Obviously anyone can debunk anything, I understand that. We have strong beliefs and morals, we're proud of them and stand by them. This matter is the Church and it's members standing up for what they believe are good and true...? What exactly are you "observing"? We invested money and time to stand up for what we believe in???
jtuiaana 7 months ago
@jtuiaana I'll allow your argument as a valid counter my latter; I brought an external interpretation of the reasoning therefore both arguments are acceptable because neither directly contradicts the ensure in whole. It can easily be seen as the Mormons for whatever reason gave up polygamy and as a result Utah was granted statehood. However, my observation was that he did not say that Mormons still want polygamy he proposed that your right was taken from you, and he phrases it as a question.
Selay47 7 months ago
@Selay47 im sorry but i can not fully answer your question. there are lots of reasons that we did abandon the practice. im 13 and i dont fully understand it myself. but i do have faith in my church and i beleive we did abandon the practice for good reasons. not just so utah became a state. i honestly wish i could answer your question and share that knowledge with you but i dont know the answer. if you would like to know it you can visit lds.org or talk to a missionary from the mormon church
summersidnie 7 months ago
@summersidnie
I did have a conversation with two missionaries here in Britain, but they contradicted each other about almost everything they talked about. One of them came across as compassionate but the other one came across as a bigot. I'm only fifteen myself; they gave me the book of Mormon which seems to me like any other religious document.
Selay47 7 months ago
@Selay47 well thank you for at least talking to some missionarys and not just makeing a quick judgment. im very dissapointed in my church that they could not explain to u and i feel terrible that i can not explain myself. if u do happen to still be interested i would talk to some different missionaries and just try reading some of the book of mormon.
summersidnie 7 months ago
It's a temple, not a church bro.
topfueltrav 9 months ago
The Mormon church is becoming a powerhouse, they got that way by burning mens souls and causing so called sinners to fall ill, with all types of infirminties. the church is a false altar. here speaks someone with experience.
lookjik 9 months ago