Niall Ferguson - Empire: How Britain Made the Modern World - Why Britain? 2/5

[NearAbbeyRoad]

Ferguson is wrong. In 1688 the Dutch never invaded England It was a coup in which William was invited to take the throne.

[wickedwilluk]

@NearAbbeyRoad

He never said that they 'invaded'. He said that Parliament asked William Of Orange to take the throne,

[stephentsang2000]

It's difficult to imagine the British Empire started off their brilliance as thieves. Therefore, it is justified for China to start off her industrialization as thieves of Western patents.

[Thraikios]

@stephentsang2000 I find your logic quite stupid. Is it justified for an aspiring nation to do X because someone else did that before?

[stephentsang2000]

@Thraikios Yes.

[Thraikios]

@stephentsang2000 So you're saying, for example, that it's OK for China to go into Nigeria and enslave whole villages because it's been done before. Well, I only wonder how you'd feel if it were your village. I bet you'd still think it's justified...

[stephentsang2000]

@Thraikios

It's okay, but not a good choice. There are better choice than enslaving Nigerians, such as stealing patents of the West to fatten our pockets.

[lelinhosgp]

Would Brazil be a better place if it was colonized by Britain?

[bozzeed]

@lelinhosgp no. because isntead of bringing the slaves from brazil to america, they would have been slaved in their own countries, if they were not killed like the natives (indios) americans :P

[TheLiberalKnight]

@lelinhosgp Brazil is a civilized nation that will be the largest economy in the world by the end of the 21st century. If Britain had colonized Brazil, she would be proud of her today.

[HerrOttoKranz]

@TheLiberalKnight I must warn you that Ferguson makes a typical mistake when saying that in the 17th century the Spaniards were "ransacking" the ancient American "civilizations".

The truth is that we created a veritable civilization there, introducing agricultural and cattle techniques still in use today. Incas and specially Aztecs were barbaric peoples more undeveloped than the Roman Empire. In the early 1800s Central and South America was richer than most of Europe, let alone Spain itself.

[TheLiberalKnight]

@HerrOttoKranz I already knew that. Spain did quite brutally tear down Aztec civilization, but they replaced it with a more civilized society. I am proud of European civilization. It should be spread throughout the world.

[HerrOttoKranz]

@TheLiberalKnight I thought so :)

I agree with you, Europe as a whole is the mother of civilization. Glory to the West!

[TheLiberalKnight]

@HerrOttoKranz Glory to the west... except the USA, that is.

[wickedwilluk]

@TheLiberalKnight

Maybe so - but modern Brazil used the Anglo-Sphere economic model - not the Spanish.

[TheLiberalKnight]

@wickedwilluk Lucky for us, as they are succeeding our economic lead.

[Foxyarse2]

Britain seen and seized it...yah can't fart against thunder

[baalliny]

wtf......they did colonise India. It started with the Battle of Plassey in 1757.

[buldhana]

You plundered us you dirty brits! India is, was and will always remain a great country!

[allgoonersaregay]

@buldhana yeah? How many fucking indians in Britain now!

[buldhana]

@allgoonersaregay Fuck off! U have to face an oust from ur own country, go to Australia or Canada where ur relatives have been sent off! Wait till we colonize u Pricks!

[allgoonersaregay]

@buldhana couldn't colonise shit!

[buldhana]

@allgoonersaregay Well think about it, we didn't have the need to colonise! India is as big as Europe Union in terms of Area and yes we fucking could and can colonize ur shit hole island! Remember history U wudn't have been able to run ur company without the Indian Soldiers!

[allgoonersaregay]

@buldhana shut up you fanny fart. For someone from India to call Britain a shit hole is a bit rich!

[buldhana]

@allgoonersaregay I have been in England for a year studying at Uni. I found ur cities are full of Chavs and pregnant teenagers! Not to forget the awful weather! And yes I am Richer than the average Briton! Hence I can call it a shit hole, Live with it!!

[allgoonersaregay]

@buldhana because you're own uni's are shit. Look at your country, everybody believes in God, durrr. As for pegnant teenage pregnancies, it's your country that needs to slow down on pregnancies full stop with children begging on the street. You are a drain on the worlds resources. Britain built the modern world, live with it! Why would you be looking at a clip like this? When you've got your degree, please fuck off back to your wonderful country!

[buldhana]

@allgoonersaregay Alright I'm not saying this for the sake of arguing but I studied my Msc at the University of Sheffield and I think it wasn't all that! Ur Universities are one big marketing success, in reality they are SHIT!!! Take my word for it! I had my earlier masters done from my home uni and my 2nd masters in UK was only to check how the much touted english universities are.... and to my dismay they are fuck all mate! no offence but that's how even the so called red-brick unis are!

[Theinnocentbot]

@buldhana First of all, look at the world university league table, I dont think I saw one Indian uni. England has alot of chavs in it yes, but this problem is nothing compared to the corruption of your weak political system where minority governments constantly squabble, and the main funding is the drugs trade. You also probably know about the horrible problem of child marriages in your country. Your just a typical example of an Indian getting overexited by the media's portrayal of old england

[jorgelaniyan100]

@buldhana That's no way to speak of one who showed the world a manner more than not surreptitiously conclude is a far better way of living on earth.

[andyhwang2009]

All Chinese underestimate you British because of British drug cartel.

[owenline]

hassan...and thats why he finds it tormenting....he has to learn that the people of that pedophile Mohammed didn't actually invent everything

[hassangarba1]

thanks for the upload. Reading the book is tormenting.

[HorrendousG]

Why do you find it tormenting ? I'm halfway through it and loving it.

[imangrynow]

This is great, thanks for uploading but have you got the first bit?