The doctor who hears voices part one

[MisterLister68]

Medication essentially masks psychosis, it does not cure. Not all people experiencing psychosis are experiencing it for the same kind of reasons. There are many causes of psychosis, from nutritional, to toxins, to past trauma, illegal or illicit drug use, thyroid issues ... the list goes on and on. Psychiatrists seldom if ever deal with a person experiencing psychosis in a way in which is either wholistic or even addresses the root causes.

[VinkoRajic]

I can use telepathy , it works all the time up to few kilometer.

[cbohar84]

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[castravet]

that s the point when one neeeds to change their lifes...

[youtubinwizeass]

Thanks for the great advice 0:46 !!!

[drixhex]

This video is great, I have had personal experience with issues like these and I am proof they can be overcome. I only wish the doctor spoke more about his views. Medication is in order for a stablization period. Then I believe through inner strength and other options recovery is possible. Stigmatizing people saying they commit crimes is in bad order. Some do, mostly because they have spent years in a failed medical community with stale ideas. Please visit my blog, ekduo.blogspot.com

[MsBionomics]

WOW. There are about 500 000 people with schizophrenia in the UK and "50 people with mental health disorders" commit murder every year. May I hint here that besides "mental health disorders" includes anyone from the severly depressed to the pedophil to the antisocial?

[cpernilla]

I think Ruth (the actress) can't act to save her life. Everything looks so fake, I just wanna punch her. Ruphus (Rufus?) is damn hot though, seriously.

[MsLAB24]

is it real???

[vladdt]

interesting

[nofxmike06]

Her eyes look like my eyes. I can feel her soul.

[Mr517519]

Hmmm, I think you should put your padded helmet back on and take your pills

[goodgoodgoodful]

it's kind of bothering that schizophrenia happens to many people who formerly are good people, but turned bad through the illness. While many others are seemingly normal people with seemingly no mental illness like schizophrenia are actually bad, psycho people. Well many times fate is kind of unfair, I guess...

[dharmanova]

I worked with individuals who have schizophrenia and bipolar I, II . Denial of these conditions saddens me a lot, particularly when it is by a professional..

As far as treatment< - no cure and no sure drug that works for all. Some react well to some meds, some don't react well to all of it, some have predominantly positive symptoms (excitation), some mostly negative (catatonia, waxy flexibility). Onset/duration are variable, but one thing is for sure - suffering and disability are very real.

[cwistaff]

he must be a nut job scientologist...

[fantasticanime2010]

no schizophrenia. tell that to the ppl who are hearing voices. mad ppl. ppl who are mad dont hhear voices. i was mad too and i didnt hear any voices. this man dr is IGNORANT. these ppl cant control whats in their head and hes telling them not to take the one thing that can help them.

[ChewSomeCaps]

lol Rufus looks like an evil mother fucker. This is interesting though. I wish we could see the real Ruth though

[icaleod]

On average he number of violent crimes committed towards others by people with psychosis is far lower than those committed by people without psychosis. Usually they are far more of a threat to themselves (40% more likely to commit suicide) than people without psychosis. I find that people often think that psychoses entails some sort of violent disposition towards others. This isn't true.

[nofxmike06]

@icaleod They asked me 20 times in one day if I were having homicidal ideation. its all bullshit. there's no magic pill and they'll never cure us.

[shorteylove]

I don't like how he says that it is "worth the try" for her not to be on medication. Too me, I would like to hear why she should not be on med. - Not just that it is "worth the try".. Hmm

[barkulator]

this is okay, but we need to see someone who really hears voices, not someone who is playing someone who hears voices.

[ollierussell1]

the problem. Kind of like if you have tooth-ache and you take pain killers, when they wear off you still have a bad tooth. The part when the psychiatrist said that if you have a mental illness not to mention it in a job interview was interesting, im sure that if he knew what 'ruth' was up to he would of sectioned her...never mind her being a doctor. Some mental health proffesionals reinforce mental health stigma with a very old fashioned approach, im not sure the stigma will ever go

[ollierussell1]

This documentary was fantastic, i have been in a psychiatric hospital 3 times now and have been diagnosed with Bordeline Personality Disorder, i feel ive seen many patients along the way with schizophrenia that have either not improved or deteriorated with antipsychotic medication. I'm no expert but this approach seems far better, i dont believe hallucinations or dellusions are random nonsense but rather something to be unravelled and explored psychologically. I think medications dont solve

[bradfordpal]

How can you have psychiatry in a country where the drugs companies lie a bout the side effects and sympotoms.. I had one brother die from Clozaril, and another after bieng on 500mg a day for the last 15 years, is now having violent siezures...I moved to Sweden 3 years ago from the UK..Here they dont diagnose schitzophrenia, as hearing voices is very common..And Clozaril *is* addictive. The pshychiatrist in the UK say it isnt.., Phsycotic disorders are snowballed by miss diagnosis and bad care

[manatarms79]

Has anyone with these symptoms, had a bad experience with medicine? Does the medicine make things worse, or help? Maybe this doctor is on to something.

[shorteylove]

@manatarms79 I know one who has had these symptoms, and the medicine sure helped her.

[ratfinkskates]

they say not taking meds makes you a danger to yourself and the public but the meds made me worse than ever. my eyes hurt, my head hurt, and hallucinations wouldn't go away like they normally would. another med i tried gave me this incredibly enraged mentality, i kept feeling like i was going to hurt someone and kept asking to be restrained and my hand felt like it was going to start moving on its own i tried the med again a week later to see if it was a fluke or something and it did the same

[Isisbridge]

Hearing voices is quite normal. It's just your own thoughts which have become obsessive, mixed with the voices of other people you have internalised in your mind.

Some coping strategies might include: having relaxing music playing all the time; telling the voices to stop talking nonsense because you know better than them; and developing ways to express your true self.

The most important thing is to stay away from mainstream psychiatrists, who will give you brain-damaging drugs.

[vladdt]

@Isisbridge These are more or less my thoughts on the matter - I mean, everyone hears their own thoughts as a "voice" - and if someone is quite bored they can think just about anything, come up with any scenario - for instance, if you're going to meet someone later in the day, it's perfectly normal to imagine the conversation you might have with them, and everyone had so called "imaginary friends" as kids - I suppose schizophrenia probably does exist, but to me it seems very hard to believe

[alenaruckova]

@vladdt why anytime somebody talking I hear the voices it´s schizophrenia, you don´t believe that somebody can here voices not alone?

[alenaruckova]

@vladdt why anytime somebody talking I hear the voices it´s schizophrenia, you don´t believe that somebody can here voices not alone? that many people hear the same things in the same time and they can talk about that? Do you believe life like that? So why call the doctor and take the pills?

[graceylu89]

I'm curious. Is this a real documentary or a fake one? I don't mean fake but is it just the style of this movie.

[graceylu89]

Ok never mind I just had to watch this a little longer to find out.

[annie46664]

Jenni: Having read your comment to me, regarding my stance on HIV & so-called AID$, I felt compelled to get to know you through your channel. That's my nature ~I prefer to research everything BEFORE I make judgement ~ well, like most, I do slip up from time to time ~nobody's perfect. :)

Anyhow, It surprised me that you'd uploaded this extremely interesting & most informative article/report, especially given that this awesome gent is helping so many psychosis sufferers WITHOUT lethal meds!

SA

[spittingfeathers001]

Rosenhan's study 'The Thud Experiment' is an amazing study you can watch on youtube

[mixjayb2k]

For a year and a half now i've been classed as a person with schizophrenia i'm 24. Its really really hard trying to get through the day and not listen to the voices that i hear i also have clinical depression to lucky for me i have help from the home treatment team that help people with mental health issues. The scariest thing for me is people finding out about me in uni and me being called crazy because i'm not crazy, and being put in a mental ward in a Hospital.

[msmoviefanatic]

I've just read your comment online, I'm so sorry you are being made feel like that,

My Dad had Schizophrenia,

As a child growing up it was hard, he was so sweet saying don't worry love its just the voices.

It broke my heart to see him,Push invisable things away,telling them to leave him alone,

I never knew what they said to him.That was 30 years ago,

Please Try not to be scared,

You Can only ever Be yourself,

some day the world will wake up to Mental health Issues take care of yourself.

[mixjayb2k]

thanks so much and i'm sorry to hair about ur dad. its nice knowing that there are people out there who understand that this isn't are fault.

[gefftom]

the home treatment team use to come to me aswell get in touch with me il try to help you

[yoda19hack]

For me the scariest thing about schizophrenia is that no mather who you are or whare you are from , are you black or white...it can choose you to strike

[rufusmay]

There should be the opportunity to face pain and confusion and learn ways to process that. If we create more resources and knowledge to do this we would have to rely less on psychiatric medication. Its not about having more 'maverick therapists' its about creating healing communities. The 'real Ruth' was helped a lot by self help groups, by friends & by a whole range of activities. We all need to work on creating such resources. If we just suppress pain it keeps coming back in more angry forms.

[JakeBdfd]

I feel this faileda squandered opportunity. I know it was made with good intentions, but it just looked like an egotistical promotion of Rufus, the great maverick", rather than the bigger issuethat its possible to live with voices without drugs and why this is valid.

[yewsrnaim]

Everyone hears voices of one sort or another, people have "insane" thoughts all the time and manage not to act on them. I think most addictions are an attempt to silence those voices when instead we should be trying to learn from and live with those aspects of ourselves.

[TheNielsenFamily]

I definately think meds, exercise and healthy diet are in order. This doctor needs a reality check. In this video, you can see how much Ruth is suffering without meds.

[jenni560]

in what way can you see she is suffering?

[perthpraxis]

@TheNielsenFamily you mean you can see how much the actor is suffering?

i agree with two of your suggestions (especially when it comes to illness such as bi-polar) but feel that medication should always be an absolute last resort.

[JellyJamJammer]

@TheNielsenFamily Paid actor

[EliteHorde]

@TheNielsenFamily

No pain no gain right?! In the end she gets her job back and has her illness under control. I agree with you that they need a diet and exercise. Meds are helpful but this is not the cure.

Understand that schizophrenics have a hard time distinguishing reality and imagination. They need more than just meds and a diet, they need therapy to regain control.

[EnergyOM]

@TheNielsenFamily That doctor has the same expierence as her, so he truly knows more about it, then a average doctor that is saying that a person which has this expierence needs to be on meds the rest of her or his life.

[misterveryze]

@TheNielsenFamily Yes, you can really see how much the actor portraying the patient is suffering without meds.

[thestrugglewithin]

@TheNielsenFamily

You obviously have not suffered from any mental disorders.

Like many scorned but revolutionary people in the past, one day people will reference Dr May's efforts in a world of self-aggrandizing, traditional 'doctors'

[Ravipond]

From my experience a lot of psychiatrists seem to be like birds of paradise singing songs wiggling their bottoms expecting their sacred science to remain unanswered. The issue needs to be more open.

[jenni560]

I agree absolutely, there's no one challenging these people at all... it feels rather helpless that they remain unchallenged and still incredibly powerful people.

[shoegalsho]

Hey Jenni, can I ask what you mean by challenge?

[jenni560]

I mean that psychiatrists wield a huge amount of power by the use of medication despite very little empirical evidence sometimes, plus there is a huge amount of evidence for psychological therapy and yet psychiatrists remain unchallenged in their view that medication is the answer.

[shoegalsho]

It's a good point and I see where you are coming from. I am a success story and so if my best friend (we joke there was something in the water where we grew up lol) Both of us are medicated and enjoying wonderful lives. It's painful being very mentally ill and you reach the stage where you will take poison to calm the effects. It's the same with any physically painful illness.

[shoegalsho]

I think the problem is that they don't think patients & families will understand. When I told my Psychiatrist and nurses how much I knew about my illness they were very pleased. They said that most patients don't know about their illness and have a very narrow view of treatment i.e if my meds don't work change to new ones or come off. It's more complex you need a good diet, strict sleeping pattern and the right meds (if u choose medication). Other drugs are off the menu & drink a little or none.

[jenni560]

I am really pleased that you have found a way that is helpful and allows you to live the life that you want. I wish there were more success stories out there and unfortunately there are a lot of painful stories of people simply being drugged and offered very little other support. Rufus' way of coping is quite different and there are many other ways but these are less available but if they were I think more people would find an approach that helps them to make sense of their experiences and live!

[shoegalsho]

Ii think there needs to be a drastic reform in the way the mentally ill are treated. It's disgusting the way we are treated in society in general save by medical staff. I overdosed some time ago and was put into a normal ward the nurses were nothing short of vile to me. I asked for sanitary wear three times in 7 hours and was given nothing until I bled through my jean and onto the bed... for a 25 year old woman this was extremely degrading. They all need a good shake up!

[annie46664]

Jenni: "I wish there were more success stories out there and unfortunately there are a lot of painful stories of people simply being drugged and offered very little other support."

THAT my dear one, is PRECISELY what I am attempting to do regarding the blatant LIE$ surrounding HIV & so-called AID$. Please give me a chance ~ perform some informative research before criticising me or any other for sharing your very own desire & sincere intent to HELP the less fortunate. :)

Love & LIGHT,

@nnie

[alwayscorrect58]

thank you for the video -- it helps me understand my son who is just 22 yrs old and starting down this path.

I too am not giving him meds, and he refuses to take them so that works--the docs think we are niave...we shall see....this too shall pass....the usa is killing our youth with mental illness diagnosis and masking symtoms with drugs...the doc and pharm companys are profiting on the back of our youth...need more people like rufus

[jenni560]

Absolutely, it's really quite a nasty business and terribly unethical and yet unchallenged! At least people like yourselves refuse to be taken in with it all.

[SFJane]

this whole video series has made me cry starting with this first one, thanks for uploading this

[jenni560]

It is very sad to think that people don't get treated with the same respect as Rufus gives.

[ase010]

Thank you very much for the upload. I hope more people would help other people this way cause so much lives are being destroyed everyday cause of the psychiatry, psychology and medicine, main cause I think all of misunderstanding.

[jenni560]

I'm not sure how psychology are destroying people's lives?

[markae0]

Around 8:30 the voice over gives false information. People on and off medication can commit crime and murder. To my knowledge no one has specific facts of the ratio of crimes on meds/drugs and crimes while not medicated.

[terratagONE]

I can see what Mr May is doing the antipsychotic meds just make you feel shit.The point is to have the experience an have it once not in an out of hospital on drugs that don't work long term.

[RickMoonbeam]

Quoting legal statistics of legal cases is a measure of how much the courts listen to psychiatrists in the first place. It usually reduces murder to manslaughter. It does not demonstrate the existence of "mental illness".

[jenni560]

Can you explain this point...it does not make sense?

[RickMoonbeam]

Attributing dangerousness is fundamental to political oppression. Every tyranny attributes its oppressive measures to the need for safety. Either Rufus is an extremely dull specimen not to realise this (I doubt that he is) or extremely clumsy to be associated with this idea in this film. This one issue alone invalidates any claim that he is a revolutionary. He thus remains part of the psychiatric system.

[RickMoonbeam]

Psychiatric "medications" are not medications as there is no "illness" in the first place. This logic seems to escape Mr May.

[jenni560]

I don't think the logic has escaped Mr May at all...did you even watch this video?

[RickMoonbeam]

Mark Chapman, the idiot who shot John Lennon, attempted an appeal on the grounds that it was a "voice in his head" that had made him do it. He didn't get away with it and neither should Mr May or Ruth. Attributing foul feelings about oneself oneself and violent feelings against others to a "voice" is the same in both cases. Voices are only ever posited to minimise the responsibility for bad things, not to take away the credit for good ones.

[jenni560]

There are many flaws with your argument here! Firstly, Mark Chapman DID do something foul and tried to blame his voice for it but you cannot generalise from this single case that voices are always used as an excuse.

Secondly, what exactly do you think Mr May or Ruth are trying to get away with? You seem to be making the assumption that by simply hearing voices they have committed a crime to 'get away with'.

[jenni560]

Finally, you really don't seem to appreciate the experience of people hearing voices or what this is like and are arguing that they are simply made up excuses. Perhaps people have tried to use them as an excuse, I don't know but what I do know is that a large number of people experience very real voices that they find difficult to control and it can be very difficult to argue against them. You make massive sweeping generalisations about something you clearly do not understand or even want to

[deadlysauce]

Ruth Wilson...plays...Ruth? Or they changed the woman's name as well as using an actor, and changed her name to the actress' name??

[jenni560]

I think they changed her name to the actress' name.

[krishnaonion]

oh yay thank you for uploading this!

I missed it when they had it on tv and have been looking for it since finally ive found it! thanks!

[jenni560]

no problem! the other parts are on their way...