Perhaps what needs to happen is for activists on Civil Rights of LGBT people to network with other Civil Rights Movements and to stop pretending like they are the last Civil Rights group to not attain equality. I believe in full Civil Rights for LGBT people, including marriage. But hey I'm a Puerto Rican and I'm an American Citizen who cannot vote for the President! What about Civil Rights for Uninsured people or the anti war movement? Castro Gays are such posers!
I was there at Harvey Milk Plaza the night after the Maine vote. Recalling the international outpouring of protest against civil rights oppression across the nation following the prop 8 outcome, the seeming apathy on 11/04/09 was vividly palpable.
filmstocker, I agree with and understand your concern. But without consistent effort for public visibility against oppression by the oppressed, a righteous perceiving population will not be moved to action.
JavierCA2008, marriage whether gay or straight is a fundamental civil right. We can agree to disagree on our beliefs surrounding marriage, but we should treat our beliefs with dignity and respect and live and let others live.
Well you are correct about being civil and respectful. I honestly support civil unions with the same rights as marriage. My issue is the word marriage. I just believe it is too tied to religion, etc. My bigger issue with gay marriage is not so much two "gays" being marriage as much as my issues with children, schools, parents, hospitals, churches, free speech, and other issues.
Javier, what does it have to do with children, hospitals, churches. parents and free speech? Churches will not be forced to marry anybody. No Government sanctioned marriage, just civil unions and to any couple. Only churches allowed to marry.
Excellent video, incredibly well spoken. *Favourited*
I'm glad to see so many others just beginning to realize the real scope of this issue, and where each front in the battle is being waged at any given time. There are groups out there that want to place sodomy laws back into the books, that want to ban all domestic partnerships, that want to ban all same-sex marriage, etc.
There are people out there who use the gay shock/trans shock plea on murder and get away free.
But I disagree. A far more serious problem is straight apathy on this issue. Where are the liberal straights on this issue? They're nowhere to be found. There are a few exceptions, but they prove the rule. Why aren't liberal straights speaking up for civil rights? Why aren't they stopping these ridiculous votes? Why aren't they boycotting marriage, the way you would boycott a whites-only store? Gay people get enough criticism and are working their asses off on this issue.
I've always viewed marriage equality as a basic human right. Anything I have the right to do should be extended to all others.
People who say they don't care because they do not want marriage themselves need to wake up. If the right to choose to marry is not given to every person, then other rights can be taken too.
Good job. But to say that it has happened twice is not accurate. It has happened-I think-a total of 31 times, only the other 29 times were pre-emptive. And , as you say,it has always been about civil rights. Virginia voted to ban not only gay marriage but ANY recognition and ANY contractual agreement that attempts to apprpriate the priveleges of marriage. It wasn't just a law but a constitutional amendment in THE BILL OF RIGHTS! But what is worse than apathy is those who support a party..
EPRVa62, thanks for your comment. To be more specific, Maine and California are the two times when marriage equality was legal prior to gay marriage being struck down. For the other 29 times, gay marriage wasn't legal beforehand.
This is definitely one of the reasons we are still don't have equality. Please please please everyone share this video with everyone,,,,post it on your face book and everywhere else
Before samesex union pass here Germany in 2001, I never really thought about marriage. I never thought about it because I not think it be possible. I got married to my partner last year, and I am very happy I have that oppertunity. I feel bad that my friends in US have partners they love & would love be married do not have that oppertunity. With my countries past being so dark, we managed to pass this to make gays more equal, I think US can too if more people cared. Hopefuly this will change.
Apathy in the community is very big. I have friends in Ft. Lauderdale who are more interested in going to circuit parties. I hope for their sake that they don't end up dancing into a gas chamber in a concentration camp...
Great video Sean its time for us all to start caring about our rights. Why do we exspect straight men and women to fight for our rights when we wont even stand up.
You are so right. When Sarah Palin was asked about how she would approach gay people in a McCain Palin administration, she said "they would be tolerated", tolerated, as if our rights in this Nation hung on a thread, that is how fragile or worthless our humanity is for those who oppose us. I don't want to instill fear on anyone, but we have much to loose, and so do many other Americans, these events set an ugly precedent that undermines and weakens the rights of just about any other social group
I felt equal do, here in Iowa back in April! Though, our Reps. want to force an Amendment by using our Constitutional Convention process in 2011, rather than waiting for our state to decide of a vote should be put to the people (which past attempts have FAILED!). Apparently, these votes are legal because the Gov. does not regard is as having "inalienable characteristics", like one of color does. Still, why can no one see that if our rights are up for a vote, who's next?! Damn Maggie Gallager
Good points and let me assure you I have been campaigning for equality in Australia and the UK for many years. Apathy and complacency from our own "community" are one of our own worst enemies.
god bless you sean we need more people like you in this world!
TheKoolguy34 11 months ago
Perhaps what needs to happen is for activists on Civil Rights of LGBT people to network with other Civil Rights Movements and to stop pretending like they are the last Civil Rights group to not attain equality. I believe in full Civil Rights for LGBT people, including marriage. But hey I'm a Puerto Rican and I'm an American Citizen who cannot vote for the President! What about Civil Rights for Uninsured people or the anti war movement? Castro Gays are such posers!
muellerican 2 years ago
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confront your shit breath FAG
smackfags 2 years ago
I was there at Harvey Milk Plaza the night after the Maine vote. Recalling the international outpouring of protest against civil rights oppression across the nation following the prop 8 outcome, the seeming apathy on 11/04/09 was vividly palpable.
filmstocker, I agree with and understand your concern. But without consistent effort for public visibility against oppression by the oppressed, a righteous perceiving population will not be moved to action.
Sean is right. It's a war. Fight Back!
mrbudster 2 years ago
That is the key difference between you and I. I'm angry, but I'm not scared. And I'm not complacent at all.
kd1s 2 years ago 2
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Gay marriage is not a right. Marriage is between a man and a woman.
JavierCA2008 2 years ago
JavierCA2008, marriage whether gay or straight is a fundamental civil right. We can agree to disagree on our beliefs surrounding marriage, but we should treat our beliefs with dignity and respect and live and let others live.
SeanChapin1 2 years ago
Well you are correct about being civil and respectful. I honestly support civil unions with the same rights as marriage. My issue is the word marriage. I just believe it is too tied to religion, etc. My bigger issue with gay marriage is not so much two "gays" being marriage as much as my issues with children, schools, parents, hospitals, churches, free speech, and other issues.
JavierCA2008 2 years ago
Javier, what does it have to do with children, hospitals, churches. parents and free speech? Churches will not be forced to marry anybody. No Government sanctioned marriage, just civil unions and to any couple. Only churches allowed to marry.
jimbobubbadj 2 years ago
@JavierCA2008 thts your opinion
MamaMario13 9 months ago
Excellent video, incredibly well spoken. *Favourited*
I'm glad to see so many others just beginning to realize the real scope of this issue, and where each front in the battle is being waged at any given time. There are groups out there that want to place sodomy laws back into the books, that want to ban all domestic partnerships, that want to ban all same-sex marriage, etc.
There are people out there who use the gay shock/trans shock plea on murder and get away free.
It must end.
fluffywalrus 2 years ago
married ruins relationships just ask anyone who has been married. some lie to themselves and others but they know married sucks.
Fockersnextdoor 2 years ago
Thanks for posting.
But I disagree. A far more serious problem is straight apathy on this issue. Where are the liberal straights on this issue? They're nowhere to be found. There are a few exceptions, but they prove the rule. Why aren't liberal straights speaking up for civil rights? Why aren't they stopping these ridiculous votes? Why aren't they boycotting marriage, the way you would boycott a whites-only store? Gay people get enough criticism and are working their asses off on this issue.
filmstocker 2 years ago 3
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racontoor 2 years ago
Love you Sean
makeupmarc 2 years ago
Another great video Sean. I sure can tell you are upset in this video. Keep them coming. Thank You.
tommy2tone 2 years ago
I've always viewed marriage equality as a basic human right. Anything I have the right to do should be extended to all others.
People who say they don't care because they do not want marriage themselves need to wake up. If the right to choose to marry is not given to every person, then other rights can be taken too.
debbieomi 2 years ago
that as a whole views gays with contemp, namely the Log Cabin Republicans.
EPRVa62 2 years ago
Good job. But to say that it has happened twice is not accurate. It has happened-I think-a total of 31 times, only the other 29 times were pre-emptive. And , as you say,it has always been about civil rights. Virginia voted to ban not only gay marriage but ANY recognition and ANY contractual agreement that attempts to apprpriate the priveleges of marriage. It wasn't just a law but a constitutional amendment in THE BILL OF RIGHTS! But what is worse than apathy is those who support a party..
EPRVa62 2 years ago
EPRVa62, thanks for your comment. To be more specific, Maine and California are the two times when marriage equality was legal prior to gay marriage being struck down. For the other 29 times, gay marriage wasn't legal beforehand.
SeanChapin1 2 years ago
While we protest, let us not forget to thank the voters who voted AGAINST Prop 8 and Question 1. We need to add to their ranks.
glvdtxn 2 years ago
This is definitely one of the reasons we are still don't have equality. Please please please everyone share this video with everyone,,,,post it on your face book and everywhere else
hellophoenix 2 years ago
Before samesex union pass here Germany in 2001, I never really thought about marriage. I never thought about it because I not think it be possible. I got married to my partner last year, and I am very happy I have that oppertunity. I feel bad that my friends in US have partners they love & would love be married do not have that oppertunity. With my countries past being so dark, we managed to pass this to make gays more equal, I think US can too if more people cared. Hopefuly this will change.
Dasplaty 2 years ago
Apathy in the community is very big. I have friends in Ft. Lauderdale who are more interested in going to circuit parties. I hope for their sake that they don't end up dancing into a gas chamber in a concentration camp...
stoner829 2 years ago 3
Great video Sean its time for us all to start caring about our rights. Why do we exspect straight men and women to fight for our rights when we wont even stand up.
depfox 2 years ago
you can't force people to celebrate your way of life
and for the last time there is no constitutional right to same sex marriage
kenballer00 2 years ago
A brilliant quote, and one that I had forgotten about until this very moment (surprising considering Mag's onslaught!).
MacMorrighan 2 years ago
I reiterate comment by gyllenhaalic105...your passion is inspiring. And yes, the issue is civil rights.
XaveJamesGrey 2 years ago
You are so right. When Sarah Palin was asked about how she would approach gay people in a McCain Palin administration, she said "they would be tolerated", tolerated, as if our rights in this Nation hung on a thread, that is how fragile or worthless our humanity is for those who oppose us. I don't want to instill fear on anyone, but we have much to loose, and so do many other Americans, these events set an ugly precedent that undermines and weakens the rights of just about any other social group
malgacho 2 years ago 2
I felt equal do, here in Iowa back in April! Though, our Reps. want to force an Amendment by using our Constitutional Convention process in 2011, rather than waiting for our state to decide of a vote should be put to the people (which past attempts have FAILED!). Apparently, these votes are legal because the Gov. does not regard is as having "inalienable characteristics", like one of color does. Still, why can no one see that if our rights are up for a vote, who's next?! Damn Maggie Gallager
MacMorrighan 2 years ago 2
Your passion is inspiring. I've been worried about apathy myself...thanks, Sean. You do great work!
gyllenhaalic105 2 years ago 2
Good points and let me assure you I have been campaigning for equality in Australia and the UK for many years. Apathy and complacency from our own "community" are one of our own worst enemies.
kensington25 2 years ago 6
Spot on
orangegoblin82 2 years ago 2