I'm confused - the laptop on the left took far too long simply to boot, irrespective of hard drive type. Even my 2007 model MacBook Pro boots significantly faster than that.
@gDoxe I think the point was to show people the performance / speed increase over their current HDs, not to compare their SSDs to other SSDs. SSDs are relatively new as an option for in-computer use, so this video is about why to upgrade.
I think we can all safely say the next time you do a side by side comparison you use two Macbook Pros with the exact same settings right down to OS instance/snapshots but difference is just HDD's. It removes the toxic venom of most comments below as its then really about smoke testing the gap between the two. Had this come down to nano-seconds of difference then sure we can all haggle over whether or not each laptop had the same amount of dust particles per bn and how that contributed etc :)
You can also put an hologram of Jesus Christ in 4D, but it all depends on price / ratio:
SSD catch interest of prosumer people not certainly college girls with lollipops and macbook air. So when a prosumer comes, it means he/she works with large files. That's great, SSD is faster, alright. But how many large files can it host compared to a cheaper 750gb HDD? And since mac doesn't work with USB 3 and Thunderbolt is premature, what is more convenient... to work under internal sata or USB 2?...
@chickenpoper The OWC Mercury Extreme Pro SSDs are available at Other World Computing. Yes, the drive is compatible with PCs including the HP Pavillion Elite Desktop series. As the SSD is a 2.5" form factor and desktops usually accommodate 3.5" drives, you will probably need an adapter from the OWC Multi-Mount line. Also make sure your HP accepts SATA hard drive connections - if you have an IDE hard drive connection, you'll want to get the OWC Mercury Extreme Pro Legacy Edition SSD instead.
@TheVoopover The SSD that Apple uses does not utilize a SandForce controller and has been found to be slower and have a shorter lifespan than the OWC Mercury Extreme Pro SSD models.
hi im using the late 08 13.3" macbook (metal unibody) and i recently read your article showing how its capable of 6gb of ram instead of the maximum of 4 that apple states. i would like to upgrade to an ssd at the same time which ssd will i need for my notebook?
I have a macbook pro 2.6 2GB of ram at 677MHz DDR2 SDRAM..
Model Name: MacBook Pro Model Identifier: MacBookPro4,1 Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo Processor Speed: 2.6 GHz Number Of Processors: 1 Total Number Of Cores: 2 L2 Cache: 6 MB Memory: 2 GB Bus Speed: 800 MHz
I want to take out my optical drive and get two 480GB Mercury Extreme Pro SSD 2.5" Serial-ATA 9.5mm Solid State Drive.
and upgrade my Ram to 6GB of ram at 677MHz DDR2 SDRAM..
@rezrocknj Actually, your upgrade path isn't quite going to work. You are fine on upgrading the memory to 6GB, and adding the 480GB Mercury Extreme Pro SSD 2.5" Serial-ATA 9.5mm Solid State Drive to the hard drive bay. However, the optical drive in your machine is connected via an IDE / ATAPI connection - not SATA. You can still do a replacement, but you would need the ATAPI versions of the drive and adapter.
Can I get full specs of both of those computers. I mean I would like to know the video card used and how much and what kind of ram did both laptop have and what GHZ speed was the ram. Also where both computers clean out (example MacKeeper) for the fastest speed possible.. Also where the dimmers on both screen set to the same setting? How many programs were loading in the background where both computers set for the same boot-up?
i used to have a macbook pro but now i use a mac pro tower. what SSD do you recommend? i just want speed, not space. also would you recommend raid 0 stripe over a single SSD?
Although I'm a monger for space, I would definitely trade some in for speed. Being that I spend most time at home, I could definitely consider wireless network drive space. Is there an option that would make the drive readable quickly as if if were on the network equally as if it were hooked to my SATA?
@e1foley As fast as SATA over a network...no. 802.11n max data rate is only 150Mbit/s and if your wired network performs at 1000BASE-T the maximum data transfer rates go up to 1Gb/s (or 1000Mbit/s). The internal SATA bus of the most recent MacBook Pro is up to 1.5Gb/s (or 1500Mbit/s) of throughput.
However, most applications don't require that kind of speed for accessing data and working without noticeable delays. For help on creating the best setup for your needs, contact our Sales department.
I'm going to be buying an OWC SSD with 60 GB for my MacBook this month! This video makes me even more excited, considering my Late 2009 Unibody MacBook with a 2.26 GHz CPU and 2 GB of RAM is starting to seem a bit slow compared to new Macs, this, along with the 4GB of RAM I will also get from OWC should speed it up. Thanks OWC!
What is great about the OWC Mercury Pro Extreme (I have the 250GB model) is that it does not slow down over time. My MBP is the same speed now as it was when I bought the drive, and it's been months now. My Corsair SSD slowed down so drastically that I had to reinitialize the drive every 3 months, and even then it was much slower than when it was new.
OWCmacsales: Are there any speed differences between the Pro and RE series SSDs you sell? Any speed differences between say the 40GB, 60GB, and larger Pro SSD drives, or is the only difference capacity? I am looking to get my Dad a 40GB or 60GB SSD for his Lenovo.
@godwhomismike The difference between the two is capacity and protection. The Pro RE series has a larger portion of the drive dedicated to over-provisioning. In it's simplest terms, the Pro RE drive series are designed to last longer and offer superior data redundancy than the Pro SSD models. Speed is pretty consistent between all the SSD drives.
Apparently nobody else realizes that it takes macs a bit longer to boot right after they've had a system update. So clearly they updated the one on the left just prior to this 'test' Nice try guys. I'm still impressed by the speed of the SSD, but there's no way the stock mac takes that long to boot normally.
@imunique42489 Actually its not a system update. As shown in the full version of this video (which can be found on our YouTube channel) The machines are running an identical startup script which accounts for the additional boot time taken to load and execute the script. This isn't a simple boot test, its the time it takes to boot and load four programs from the Adobe CS5 suite.
@OWCmacsales Yeah, I get that, but when you update a mac, the first time you boot after that it takes it a bit longer to boot. That's the point I was making. I realize they are both programmed to start up using the same script. It's just a little bit of trickery is all. I expect a certain amount of trickery from companies trying to get my buck. Unfortunately the honest company isn't always the most successful.
@imunique42489 There is no trickery in our videos, benchmarks, or tests. We have not become a prominent and trusted member of the Mac community, an A+ rated BBB accredited business, and a Reseller Ratings Elite Member by making it a practice to deceive our customers.
@imunique42489 besides...we had booted and run those machines several times...so it wasn't a first time boot. We wanted to show, pardon the expression, an apples to apples comparison where only variable was SSD...
@OWCmacsales Alright, alright, don't get your panties in a bunch, guy. Lol. I wasn't saying I dislike the company because they potentially used trickery, I was just making an observation. Besides, I'm just a poor college student who couldn't really afford one of your fancy dancy solid state drives. I appreciate the fact that you'd stand behind the comparison nonetheless. Take care.
Lately I've wanted a SSD for my laptop for physical and speed purposes. But they're just too expensive for their size right now. I have a feeling that eventually they will go up in size and down in price.
But if you want any memory, a SSD or anything computer related, OWC is the best place to get it.
what really matters is when you have installed and used the system for at least 3 months with a computer with all your files and corresponding installations, that behavior is ALWAYS completely different from this recently formatted systems.
@ElAlexxis Exactly. On top of that I would want to compare write speeds after a few months of use. Especially a comparison along the lines of a $120.00 750 GB WD Scorpio against a $630.00 240 GB SSD.
With its DuraClass technology, OWC SSDs start fast and stay fast over long term. You can check our drive and others with a "seasoning" test created by macperformanceguide. See our video info above (down arrow next to views) for link.
I'm confused - the laptop on the left took far too long simply to boot, irrespective of hard drive type. Even my 2007 model MacBook Pro boots significantly faster than that.
iamkeir 1 month ago
Actually, sorry, I take that back - I just timed my boot and it was about the same!
iamkeir 1 month ago
I want this video on my A6188 unit.
usabbott48g 1 month ago
lol macs
rossidude 2 months ago
That's like comparing a Lamborghini to a Kia.
Do a proper comparison, compare the SSD to other equally priced SSD's.
gDoxe 3 months ago
@gDoxe I think the point was to show people the performance / speed increase over their current HDs, not to compare their SSDs to other SSDs. SSDs are relatively new as an option for in-computer use, so this video is about why to upgrade.
damonc79 2 months ago
28 seconds is pretty slow still.
muffdriver69 3 months ago
@muffdriver69 That's not what she said!
Fluvance 2 months ago
@Fluvance Nah, that's what I said. lol.
muffdriver69 2 months ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
conclusion: both of them suck, cuz they're macs! burn em!!!!
fjoa123 6 months ago
Amazing! I've read plenty about the performance increase, but I've never seen it with my own eyes. I know what I'm saving up for next!
thadeej 6 months ago
is that hdd broked down? why the hell your hdd is so slow
iiviijs 7 months ago 5
whats the point of disliking this...
soccerplaya226 7 months ago
Great video. Terrible music.
shesdoinit 7 months ago
I think we can all safely say the next time you do a side by side comparison you use two Macbook Pros with the exact same settings right down to OS instance/snapshots but difference is just HDD's. It removes the toxic venom of most comments below as its then really about smoke testing the gap between the two. Had this come down to nano-seconds of difference then sure we can all haggle over whether or not each laptop had the same amount of dust particles per bn and how that contributed etc :)
Mossyblog 7 months ago
also depends on your ram
BCBU2410124 8 months ago
You can also put an hologram of Jesus Christ in 4D, but it all depends on price / ratio:
SSD catch interest of prosumer people not certainly college girls with lollipops and macbook air. So when a prosumer comes, it means he/she works with large files. That's great, SSD is faster, alright. But how many large files can it host compared to a cheaper 750gb HDD? And since mac doesn't work with USB 3 and Thunderbolt is premature, what is more convenient... to work under internal sata or USB 2?...
claatu 9 months ago
Is it available in stores? Compatible with hp pavillion elite desktops?
chickenpoper 10 months ago
@chickenpoper The OWC Mercury Extreme Pro SSDs are available at Other World Computing. Yes, the drive is compatible with PCs including the HP Pavillion Elite Desktop series. As the SSD is a 2.5" form factor and desktops usually accommodate 3.5" drives, you will probably need an adapter from the OWC Multi-Mount line. Also make sure your HP accepts SATA hard drive connections - if you have an IDE hard drive connection, you'll want to get the OWC Mercury Extreme Pro Legacy Edition SSD instead.
OWCmacsales 10 months ago
is this the ssd that comes with the new macs?
TheVoopover 11 months ago
@TheVoopover No, Apple does not use the OWC Mercury Extreme Pro SSD as the stock hard drive nor offer it as an option.
OWCmacsales 11 months ago
@OWCmacsales ah okay, u know if the ssds that is an option for macbook pro is nearly as good? im strongly concidering the ssd option :-)
TheVoopover 11 months ago
@TheVoopover The SSD that Apple uses does not utilize a SandForce controller and has been found to be slower and have a shorter lifespan than the OWC Mercury Extreme Pro SSD models.
OWCmacsales 11 months ago
@OWCmacsales ah, thats crap. Just ordered mine, with the 128 gb ssd. But im sure it runs decent.
Thanks for the replies :-)
TheVoopover 11 months ago
@TheVoopover not crap according to ZDNet and Storage Review...the later saying up to 70% faster and we were a bit conservative at 20%....
OWCmacsales 11 months ago
my 2.4 isnt even that slow
jbparkroad 1 year ago 11
@jbparkroad It took longer to boot up cuz of the applications in the start up menu placed in the user accounts too boot up these apps.
FeeLtheHertZ 7 months ago
Hi I have a late 08 MacBookPro It doesnt have Solid State Drive but my Question Is Can I still Install It?? In My MacBookPro of 08
Alex03000351 1 year ago
hi im using the late 08 13.3" macbook (metal unibody) and i recently read your article showing how its capable of 6gb of ram instead of the maximum of 4 that apple states. i would like to upgrade to an ssd at the same time which ssd will i need for my notebook?
julian12345 1 year ago
@julian12345 Either the OWC Mercury Extreme Pro or the OWC Mercury Extreme Pro RE SSD would work for replacing your internal hard drive.
OWCmacsales 1 year ago
I have a macbook pro 2.6 2GB of ram at 677MHz DDR2 SDRAM..
Model Name: MacBook Pro Model Identifier: MacBookPro4,1 Processor Name: Intel Core 2 Duo Processor Speed: 2.6 GHz Number Of Processors: 1 Total Number Of Cores: 2 L2 Cache: 6 MB Memory: 2 GB Bus Speed: 800 MHz
I want to take out my optical drive and get two 480GB Mercury Extreme Pro SSD 2.5" Serial-ATA 9.5mm Solid State Drive.
and upgrade my Ram to 6GB of ram at 677MHz DDR2 SDRAM..
How much faster can I make my mac?
rezrocknj 1 year ago
@rezrocknj Actually, your upgrade path isn't quite going to work. You are fine on upgrading the memory to 6GB, and adding the 480GB Mercury Extreme Pro SSD 2.5" Serial-ATA 9.5mm Solid State Drive to the hard drive bay. However, the optical drive in your machine is connected via an IDE / ATAPI connection - not SATA. You can still do a replacement, but you would need the ATAPI versions of the drive and adapter.
OWCmacsales 1 year ago
@rezrocknj
Adapter: OWC 2.5" IDE/ATA Hard Drive to ATAPI Optical Bay Adapter for PowerBook or MacBook Pro 17" models. (OWCOB0GKITMB15)
Drive: 240GB Mercury Legacy Pro SSD 2.5" Parallel-ATA 9.5mm Solid State Drive (OWCSSDMLP240)
OWCmacsales 1 year ago
Can I get full specs of both of those computers. I mean I would like to know the video card used and how much and what kind of ram did both laptop have and what GHZ speed was the ram. Also where both computers clean out (example MacKeeper) for the fastest speed possible.. Also where the dimmers on both screen set to the same setting? How many programs were loading in the background where both computers set for the same boot-up?
rezrocknj 1 year ago
My Dell Mini boots 7 faster on a 5400rpm drive.
lazzer408 1 year ago
For speed, we'd recommend setting up two or more Mercury Extreme Pro Re SSDs in a RAID 0 array.
OWCmacsales 1 year ago
i used to have a macbook pro but now i use a mac pro tower. what SSD do you recommend? i just want speed, not space. also would you recommend raid 0 stripe over a single SSD?
scir91 1 year ago
the MBA would kick both of these computers when it comes to boot up and shut down time.
therealestmc85 1 year ago
Although I'm a monger for space, I would definitely trade some in for speed. Being that I spend most time at home, I could definitely consider wireless network drive space. Is there an option that would make the drive readable quickly as if if were on the network equally as if it were hooked to my SATA?
e1foley 1 year ago
@e1foley As fast as SATA over a network...no. 802.11n max data rate is only 150Mbit/s and if your wired network performs at 1000BASE-T the maximum data transfer rates go up to 1Gb/s (or 1000Mbit/s). The internal SATA bus of the most recent MacBook Pro is up to 1.5Gb/s (or 1500Mbit/s) of throughput.
However, most applications don't require that kind of speed for accessing data and working without noticeable delays. For help on creating the best setup for your needs, contact our Sales department.
OWCmacsales 1 year ago
I'm going to be buying an OWC SSD with 60 GB for my MacBook this month! This video makes me even more excited, considering my Late 2009 Unibody MacBook with a 2.26 GHz CPU and 2 GB of RAM is starting to seem a bit slow compared to new Macs, this, along with the 4GB of RAM I will also get from OWC should speed it up. Thanks OWC!
WindowsAndMacintosh 1 year ago
anyone know what song this is? NOT.
naanod 1 year ago
What is great about the OWC Mercury Pro Extreme (I have the 250GB model) is that it does not slow down over time. My MBP is the same speed now as it was when I bought the drive, and it's been months now. My Corsair SSD slowed down so drastically that I had to reinitialize the drive every 3 months, and even then it was much slower than when it was new.
srhatfield 1 year ago
my 2.4 GHz macbook pro does not take NEARLY as long as the one on the left in the video.
babolatpdtp 1 year ago
OWCmacsales: Are there any speed differences between the Pro and RE series SSDs you sell? Any speed differences between say the 40GB, 60GB, and larger Pro SSD drives, or is the only difference capacity? I am looking to get my Dad a 40GB or 60GB SSD for his Lenovo.
godwhomismike 1 year ago
@godwhomismike The difference between the two is capacity and protection. The Pro RE series has a larger portion of the drive dedicated to over-provisioning. In it's simplest terms, the Pro RE drive series are designed to last longer and offer superior data redundancy than the Pro SSD models. Speed is pretty consistent between all the SSD drives.
OWCmacsales 1 year ago
no way the boot of the standard one takes so long normally, there's something wrong in this test.
I use early 2008 penryn 2.5 mbp with SL with a 500wd 7200 4gbram and never, I said NEVER goes this long to only boot.
I tried putting the same cs5 4 program on my startup and it doesn't affect the boot time at all.
so IMHO, the comparison's not trustable at all.
HanamiLab 1 year ago
@HanamiLab The default HDD for the 13" 2010 MBP is 5400RPM.
srhatfield 1 year ago
@srhatfield yeah and you know that the difference of performance in 2.5 hds from 5400 to 7200 is a question of 2/3 seconds in the boot?
with my mother's white MB the difference with the one in the video is tens of seconds.
HanamiLab 1 year ago
I've had G4s boot up faster than the lefty up there.... Sure, launching 4 pro apps on the jump is a task... but that OS was drunk or something.
killola 1 year ago
Apparently nobody else realizes that it takes macs a bit longer to boot right after they've had a system update. So clearly they updated the one on the left just prior to this 'test' Nice try guys. I'm still impressed by the speed of the SSD, but there's no way the stock mac takes that long to boot normally.
imunique42489 1 year ago
@imunique42489 Actually its not a system update. As shown in the full version of this video (which can be found on our YouTube channel) The machines are running an identical startup script which accounts for the additional boot time taken to load and execute the script. This isn't a simple boot test, its the time it takes to boot and load four programs from the Adobe CS5 suite.
OWCmacsales 1 year ago
@OWCmacsales Yeah, I get that, but when you update a mac, the first time you boot after that it takes it a bit longer to boot. That's the point I was making. I realize they are both programmed to start up using the same script. It's just a little bit of trickery is all. I expect a certain amount of trickery from companies trying to get my buck. Unfortunately the honest company isn't always the most successful.
imunique42489 1 year ago
@imunique42489 There is no trickery in our videos, benchmarks, or tests. We have not become a prominent and trusted member of the Mac community, an A+ rated BBB accredited business, and a Reseller Ratings Elite Member by making it a practice to deceive our customers.
OWCmacsales 1 year ago 22
@imunique42489 besides...we had booted and run those machines several times...so it wasn't a first time boot. We wanted to show, pardon the expression, an apples to apples comparison where only variable was SSD...
OWCmacsales 1 year ago
@OWCmacsales Alright, alright, don't get your panties in a bunch, guy. Lol. I wasn't saying I dislike the company because they potentially used trickery, I was just making an observation. Besides, I'm just a poor college student who couldn't really afford one of your fancy dancy solid state drives. I appreciate the fact that you'd stand behind the comparison nonetheless. Take care.
--Tommy--
imunique42489 1 year ago
I have a feeling that they duped the drives so that they are exactly the same... but maybe not.
ansonx10 1 year ago
@ansonx10 You are correct, the drives in both machines are clones, so they are exactly the same.
OWCmacsales 1 year ago
@OWCmacsales YES! Score 1! lol
But that is pretty awesome.
Lately I've wanted a SSD for my laptop for physical and speed purposes. But they're just too expensive for their size right now. I have a feeling that eventually they will go up in size and down in price.
But if you want any memory, a SSD or anything computer related, OWC is the best place to get it.
ansonx10 1 year ago
wow, this is a great movie to compare HDD & SSD!
ryanchengkiu 1 year ago
what really matters is when you have installed and used the system for at least 3 months with a computer with all your files and corresponding installations, that behavior is ALWAYS completely different from this recently formatted systems.
ElAlexxis 1 year ago
@ElAlexxis Exactly. On top of that I would want to compare write speeds after a few months of use. Especially a comparison along the lines of a $120.00 750 GB WD Scorpio against a $630.00 240 GB SSD.
gskibum 1 year ago
@gskibum
With its DuraClass technology, OWC SSDs start fast and stay fast over long term. You can check our drive and others with a "seasoning" test created by macperformanceguide. See our video info above (down arrow next to views) for link.
OWCmacsales 1 year ago
@OWCmacsales That site confirms my thoughts about seasoned SSD drives on write performance. Actually, the performance is even worse than I thought.
gskibum 1 year ago
so long
i dont beleive
nnemtala 1 year ago
i have the same SSD and i like to work it .
i have a MacBook (white Mid 2007) and it feels like new
djspecialpaul 1 year ago
music was made in garage band?
wings400 1 year ago
wow.....
tarheel34 1 year ago