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  • you are the nut! i saw your ridiculous comments and I feel sorry for your aspie family members, not bc of their AS, but bc of you!

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  • Christschool is not the same anymore. Ever since he saw KGaccount he acted like he has never seen an LFA before, thinking to himself "What the hell have I been thinking!" If you recall how one-sided his view were on autism before, well now he is becoming too moderate on neurodiversity.

  • The humor, the irony.

  • Me and Christschool are once again on speaking terms...we have put the past behind us. We have actually always been on speaking terms...we just understand that sometimes we need to go long stretches of time without communication in order to stay on speaking terms ;)

  • i have been sent videos claiming the vaccine damage. do u have a video teaching what u just taught? i agree about agendas and i would like to help spread another view.

  • u have to be careful where u get your news. as an example fox/faux news/noise fired some investigative reporters for refusing to alter information that put monsantos in a bad light. turns out 'the news' is not required to report truth.

  • maybe what is best for the child is Different then what is best for the adult.

  • thank u bumsendk for using your voice.

    looks like christschool is still here.

  • Behavioral therapy is denigration.

  • I know of no site.

  • its always nice with constructive criticism.(my spelling sucks however)

  • I am also Autistic and have no desire to be 'normal'. I am accustomed to how I am without drugs which alter my mind in order to 'make me' more 'acceptable' to others who are not wanting to accept me for the way I am.

    I rather adapt as the way I am and work on the causes in the such, rather than just try and fix it with band-aids which is not really addressing the issue.

    I am able to adapt the way I am, not according to an 'ideal' which does not exist!

  • Interesting thread. If behavior modification turns mute 2 now able 2 talk about what they dislike about treatment, then I say, "Fantastic. Treatment resulted in progress." We need 2 understand that everyone has dislikes, but treatment progress should B validated by more than opinion.

    If others know how 2 talk w/o treatment more power 2 them. They must B less affected.

    4 those really affected by autism inclusion, support, & education will all B limited w/o treatment that gets results.

  • if someone doesnt talk.

    and u hit them.

    if they say "stop"

    would you say "Fantastic, Treatment resulted in progress?"

  • Actually, I don't think you are talking about an intervention that exists today.

    So your complaint is moot.

    But if you happen to have therapist that do such things fire them, but keep a scientifically validated intervnention that works.

    I know most people can't hire real therapists who know what to do and so DTT can look bad, but that really means nothing relative to ABA or DTT.

  • Aversive behavior mod is still done at the Judge Rotenberg Center.

    As far as it being scientifically vaidated, it isn't. Behavior mode doesn't allow for control groups, so it can never be "scientifically validated." The practioners takes lots of data and analyze it, which people sometimes mistake for the scientific method.

  • It is scientifically validated and the surgeon general has identified it as such because there is so many scientific publications on its' affectiveness for autism that it is undeniable.

    The alarm clock will go off soon and you'll have to leave dream land if you really want to sound smart.

  • i am sure the us government would say yes the treatment was a success. i am talking about the paper government that rules the masses. papar cares not one iota for Real HuMan beings and neither do the masses when they get in groups. obedience is the name of the game they play.

  • BumsenDK: As I have much respect for you-I'd have to graciously disagree about Christ School. His belief was to accept the child, leave the autism alone, and not intervene. "Acceptance" doesn't mean having to live with all the negative aspects that autism can produce. He could be cruel, especially to parents that chose to get help for our children. Finding middle ground was difficult for him. If he comes back with an inclusive frame of mind-we can ALL learn something positive from him.

  • its not what i got from him, but i absolutely accept your point of view.

  • If that was what you thought my message was about, then you didn't understand what my message was. Yes, I am cruel to people that promote recovery because recovery implies a disease. I am not a disease to be recovered and my son is not a disease to be recovered and autistic people are not a disease to be recovered from. Autistic children need assistance, education, inclusion and accomodation. None of my videos ever said anything different. If you were autistic, you would perhaps understand.

  • One thing to keep in mind is that it's not about us as parents, which so many cure minded individuals believe, it's about autistic people and what we need, not what you THINK YOU need. Open your mind to the nuance of being autistic, rather than the narrow minded mindset of the DSM-IV. If you didn't like what I did, you need to understand that you don't like it when autistic people self advocate in ways that don't fit with your conception of acceptable conversation.

  • "His belief was to accept the child, leave the autism alone, and not intervene. "

    Accept the child, YES. Not help, NO. Can you provide proof of your assertion that I don't believe in education and inclusion? Perhaps you are confusing acceptance with do nothing? No one believes that but its a common argument of people who believe in "recovery". Do you mean "more neurotypical" when you say recovery? Please give examples to back up your assertion.

  • "If he comes back with an inclusive frame of mind-we can ALL learn something positive from him."

    If inclusive means accepting that autistic people are "damaged" then I'll never be able to live by your definition of inclusion. If you mean accepting experimental treatments and damaging behavior therapies as being inclusive, I'll never be "inclusive". It's not about parents! Read that again. It's not about PARENTS. It's about making the world more accommodating to autistic people.

  • i think it is an eXellent idea to acept the child for who he is. perhaps instead of changing the child to your limited way maybe it is best to learn his.

    the word is not judgement but the energy that goes into the word makes it so.

    instead of wrong c right

  • what's happened to Christschool???

    where did he go????

    what did I miss????

    please, somebody, let me know!!! enlighten me!!!!!!

  • I miss christschool too. People like him and the people touched by him and others are the reason I'm continuing with my autism advocacy. Knowledge is the best weapon against intolerance.

  • Ive never seen CS trying to push any merchandise. Thats just silly. Just because he doesnt agree with your method of therapy doesnt mean he has an agenda.

  • what made u think that? where did u ever see him pertition for money?

    and what makes you think ABA is actually the best way to go?

  • Hah! Amen to that.

  • grwr! yes i am, since im on this diet and its freaking hard, and im doing great with it.

    then someone comes and assumes ive given up, it sort of bugs me....

    sorry if i seemed harsh, im just super dedicated ;)

  • ur not making sense. Im not at all back on the gluten.

  • Good video Felix. You come across very well, a good example of a real grown up. Where are the grown ups nowadays?

  • I have cried.

    CS was a visionary, and he showed his son in way he can be proud of when he is older. The vast majority of his videos did not include him or his child (i think from a previous comment that you have only seen his sons channel, which is still up and running for now). Yes, there are idiots everywhere, which is why I want to stick up for the few that make up for it.

  • HE DID DRIVE ME AWAY!!! the people who were attacked by him all came away saying the same thing i did "if thats what an adult with autism is like then i will double my efforts to cure my child of autism".

    I cant tell you how many moms contacted me stressed out by his personal attacks. He asked me if he could post that video because "im running out of ideas for videos" and NEVER mentioned that he was going to take credit for turning around my thinking. I would have told him not to say that lie.

  • *the people who were attacked by him all came away saying the same thing i did "if thats what an adult with autism is like then i will double my efforts to cure my child of autism".*

    Aspiepride does exactly this and you pat him on the back and say "you're da man"??? WTF?? Make up your mind Phil.

  • aspieprides attacks are NOTHING like christschools...NOTHING!!!

  • lol, I'll agree with that. Teenage angst anyone?

  • Christschool censored all my posts :) That tells me a lot.. also he was not wearing a helmet on his cycle.. that tells me even more ;)

  • all CS did to me was censor all my posts.. :) He could not handle a 56 yr old aspie living a good life :)

  • Living a good life is one thing, but being a blowhard about it is another matter entirely.

  • SHould i be compelled to cry? I don't think so... in the end we are responsible for ourselves, we make the choices...aspergers or nt.

  • Oh, really? I didn't realise that! Thank you.

    ...And this is why you're a such a blowhard.

  • Sounds like the pubs are open.

  • ...I'm socially maldroit to the max, you dolt.

  • You made the choice. using name calling is not an aspie thing.. its a lack of manners thing. you can take manner lessons, role playing, or acting lessons.. I would not use maladroit as an excuse..learn not to be a maladroit... Didn't AP say something about some aspies using their disabilities as an excuse? obviously out of nowhere you need my attention again... it gets old and samo. back to life and doing things that are significant and important and profitable. Take care.

  • ...And patronising others isn't ill-mannered?

    Oh well, have fun.

  • Is there an AA in UK? Just curious.

  • and thats my point leo, you really dont know what im talking about. You werent on youtube yet...you didnt see his attacks...he did ease up slightly on them as time went by...my whole point is that he wants to now make it seem that his attack videos had positive impacts when the opposite is true and said my original video was directed at him which wasnt true. He is trying to re-write history and its at my expense. I did a video response but took it down cause he deleted all his vids.

  • arent you the guy that thinks hes a good gambler but really is only good at circle jerks?

  • PHIL!!! WHAT THE FUCK??

  • but the thing is i dont have this grudge against him or anything...i just didnt appreciate him trying to act like his video making fun of me had a positive impact on me or that the vids he did of other parents making the moms say that they "wish their kid was never born" had a positive impact on them. it drove them away and away they stay to this day. now he tries to claim that those videos had a positive impact...are you falling for that. i can tell you first hand that they drove me away.

  • he wants people to think that he had a role in turning around my thinking...he didnt. lordalfredhenry and droopy did. i opened a channel for christschool and others to accept and he refused. later he decided i was being sincere and thats when he had a major impact on me...but to claim that his attack videos that he did of me and other parents had a positive impact is a straight out lie. are you gonna fall for that? if so, then you dont know what the hell youre talking about and werent there.

  • if you want to get in touch with the autism advocates and parents who were steamrolled by his attacks where he found their home addresses and posted them i will get you in touch with them.

    He was the autism BULLY of youtube. plain and simple...and like he told me many times "how can you stand to be associated with a bunch of women". his fave words for women? maybe i will tell you some other time.

  • for a person who claims to hold no grudge against this HuMan being u sure take a lot of steps to destroy him.

  • In these comments i was talking about something he did to me as a friend that pissed me off. me and him are on speaking terms once again and we both are able to put the past behind us.

  • that is good to here commander phil.

  • it will only drive them away if they r guilty of the crime. away into denial.

  • my friend leo, you dont know the half of it...you really dont.

  • i mean the "something like that" part...i guess im just a little miffed at him because he put up a video i did and a video he did as a response right before he deleted all of his vids. I dont mind he put them up (i gave him permission) but i do mind that he said that when i put the original video up it was directed at him and that his response was the turning point for me. the opposite is true and he knows it. i will call him out on it if he so chooses.

  • Mom always liked me best!

  • what the hell ya talking about yetti?

  • lol, yeah I got that too.

  • Thats not what he said phil. He didn't say that video was the turning point for you. He said that was when you two were at loggerheads, before you two started to get on.

  • youre wrong...believe me, i would know.

    he said that the video he responded with (the one making fun of me) was the turning point for me...maybe you didnt read that in the side bar of the video. im talking about his video response.

  • Well ok, you might be right on that one. I did read it but it's not how I took it. There's only so much you can fit into a sidebar and so I didn't take it literally. (Having to shorthand for the benefit of your audience is one of the deficits of spoken/written language.) I have been one of the people to see this pan out (thank you :)) so I have had the privilage of seeing a fuller picture.

  • I really appreciated that video he showed where he took the micky Phil, and I thought you were a very good sport for giving him permission. To me it was more than just an insight into your and his relationship, but it was also was symbolic of verbal vs non-verbal thinking. Very relavent yes? Both you and Christschool were titans in your preferred communication styles. Christschool showed that the non-verbal can be just as powerful if not more.

  • christschool drove more people who were open to understanding the autism community away from the autism community than anyone i know.

    including me...if it werent for lordalfredhenry and droopy i would have never overcame the damage that christschool caused...and many parents never did overcome it...and their children suffered...does christschool care? NO!!!

  • i think u have made a mis-take commanderphil. i say christschool iS bringing understanding to the autism community.

    plastic pictures do no one any good. Real benifits. lots of plastic people in the world i realeyes but they r under the control of a program so the numbers part doesn't really matter.they have given their minds away to the one mind so it is One Vote no many.

  • Hah! i know exactly what you mean ;)

    And im leaving it as it is,since now you have to come and watch every vid i make, just to see if ive fixed it yet ;)

  • That is all very sad and I will miss all the good videos. The point I cna't understand is, why CS erased all his videos? That is all very sad for the community here, and his vids helped a lot of people to get another few on autism.

  • I can understand it. ON many aspie forums there are people who claim to be aspies and have other agendas. Many are hostile,non productive, and simply are on earth for comparison yet they find power behind the keyboard with attacks, hostility, sometimes promotion of illegal activity. Anyone in their right mind, aspie or NT, moves on. Life is too short to waste in a non productive and hostile way.

  • cont. As much as we deplore censorship.. there is a censorship of the loud, hostile, and never ending pugilistic in the name of civilized debate. Many aspies have great lives.. why should they waste their time with such debaucle? I don't blame Christschool. I have not read his story. Whenever there are little or no controls, the good either keep their distance or leave all together. Just because we are aspies does not mean we have the same values, demeanor, ethics, etc.

  • Why did Brittany shave her head? There comes a point a person wants to erase all that is theirs.. or an old identity.. His "Easy Rider" exit is creative.. People take with them what is theirs. When they want no association, they will remove everything. I still don't know why he left perhaps someone can clue me in.

  • I know he isnt "gone" but as I understood it, he wasnt going to be actively posting personal vids.

  • as i understood it, it was people who made an IRL connection with CS, parents of children at the school of CS junior among others.

  • i wouldnt believe that...especially if cs told you! lol

  • Phil.

    Would you care to elaborate on that sarcastic comment there?

  • hmmm, nah, not really. I have a feeling time will elaborate for me :)

  • bah... troll warning for u.

  • no, not trolling at all...its how i really feel...let time tell.

  • lol, I love the way you act like the sensible parent.

  • yes, its a tough job choccybiccy but someones gotta be sensible and honest!

  • Yeah, you wish phil.

  • all im saying is let time tell...im willing to do just that...what is everyone so up in arms about?

    people are marking my comments as spam...all im saying is let time tell... :)

  • what happens when you are marked as spam , Phil?

  • You lose one minute of life...

  • OIC.. I had no idea of a real ChristSchool. He should just find another name and trademark it and go on. Well maybe he will get his distress out and return. Tomorrow is another day! Just keep writing him. I think he needs friends now :) Sort of like clapping for Tinker Bell to live and return. It works! I hope he returns too. I personally get tired of the vulgarities that go on. Cute for a Rap Video but not for intelligent discourse or civility, something aspies claim to miss by being bullied

  • the letter i send to CS as an email.

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