god bless charlemagne king of franks (france) and specialy to the grand father charles martel who stoppppppppppped the muslims in poitier and saved europe from the hell
@distick63 wrong charle the great in german karl der grosse or Redbeard was German.true he was the emperor of the Holy roman empire of german heritage.and sure king of the franks.they were western franks/french and eastern franks/german
@distick63 Franks didnt translate to French. Charlemagne after all had his "capital" in whats today Aachen! French and France as we know today was invention of French Revolution. Such thing didnt exist in time of Charlemagne! Also Charlemagne is also the Father of Germany in that case. And dont forget the great effort of Eastern Roman Empire that stop the Main Muslim Forces from invading Europe. Withoud it I dont know anny other force that could stop them.
hi. was wondering if i could ask you. i thought germany as a country was fairly new. that it was made up of different municipalities? prussia bulgaria etc. if you had time to give me a quick run down id greatly appreciate it. someone on utbe stated " Germany was a monarchy since the fall of the charlemagne's empire and not a citi-state/municipalities." maybe we are both correct. thank you
@pederman15 well Germany itself has been around since juluis ceaser crossed the rhine and meet up with a tribe of tall strong poeple. modern Germany didnt ahppen until 1871, but It went from tribes and viking villages to an Empire[Holy Rome] then went from Holy Rome to a bunch of states. Now you must remeber that even though Holy Rome was a German Reich it held Slavic lands and Slavic poeple witch would be bulgaria, Hungary etc. but mostly Germans in Germany and Austria
French people are much more Roman/Latin than fake Romans, Germans LOL Germans were fur wearing and mountain dwelling barbarians before real Romans introduced civilization to them.
The title "Of German Nation" is only a invention of the 15th century. The titles are Sacrum Imperium around 1157 and Sacrum Romanum Imperium around 1254 officially mentioned. Nationis Germanicae was firts mentioned during the late 15th century, so this video ist wrong
Well, nice work but Carlus Magnus was never the emperor of the Holy Roman Empire of German Nation.
He was the emperor of the Frankish Empire. Louis II. 'The German' was the first emperor. And he was only the emperor of the Holy Roman Empire. Of German Nation is a later title of the empire. Sorry but as historian I had to say that.
The German authors and illustrators who put the above set of images together must not have agreed. They obviously did not have all the Frankish rulers included, but 'Karl der Grosse' certainly was.
Frankish Emperors have never existed. They were so-called Holy Roman Emperors. Ironically the genetically and linguistic descendents of the Franks are the present-day Germans. French have completly different genetic and language background than modern French people.
Im French and I can trace my family lines back to old frankish families...
France is about 60 % germanic 40 % Celtic.
Celtic mostly in Britanny but the rest of France is Germanic.
Especially after WW2 I traveled to both Germany and France and I feel there are sometimes more Germanic in some parts of France than in Germany itself
I feel that there is no difference between Germans and French except the language of course. At least where I have been.
In fact many people in the US think Im German when they talk to me and are always stunned when I tell them Im French because I dont "fit the stereotype" of the French.
@wachaufeuropa thats nonsense! the germanics (especially the franks) were always largely outnumbered by the gaullois in france. that's the reason why the french speak a roman language today.
That's a wrong assertion because French comes from Latin spoken by the Franks.
The expression "Lingua Franca", meaning "Language of the Franks" illustrates this.
And latin did not come from the Gauls but from the Romans.
Gauls actually did not even call themselves gauls, they were celts speaking an extinct language similar to Irish and of the same ethnic group as Irish or native Britons. But obviously French dont look like Irish, thus are mostly not gaul.
@wachaufeuropa sorry but that is wrong! "french" comes from "franc" because the francs in the western empire took over the latin language. "lingua franca" has nothing to do with french, it was mostly composed of italian words (80%) and was spoken around the mediterenean sea! as if u can tell nowadays how a typical gaul looks like lol! it's based on numbers that germanic people were always a minority in later france!
You're not reading or understand what I am writing.
I know Francais comes from Franc, which are a germanic tribe.
What I am saying is that the french language derives from the "vulgar" latin which was spoken by the Francs. The expression "Lingua Franca" means a language shared by numerous ethnic groups. The latin spoked by the French at the beginning of the middle ages was called lingua franca by Italians because it was latin spoken by the Franks.
@wachaufeuropa first of all, it was the "vulgar latin" spoken by the gauls, which was adopted by the franks(because they were outnumbered), who originally spoke oldgerman. it was called "french" later because the gauls started to call themselves "franks". the italian called the language around the mediteranean "lingua franca" because the arabs called all europeans "frank" and not because it was spoken by franks it was mostly italian!
At the end of the day, the Germans and French are identital. Just different linguistically.
They both created fictitious nations and created stories to differentiate them from each other.
Both consider themselves successor of the Roman Empire (Although with Germany's loss of WW2, Germany really is nothing like it was back then) and have pretension to invade and annex the opposite side of the rhine.
@wachaufeuropa i dont' argue about any blood questions! it's only against historical facts to call the franks "french", in the first place they r germanics from modern german territories! the successor of rome was germany, there is no doubt about that and actually we never wanted territories which didn't culturally belong to us, unlike the french!
The problem with your historical view is that it comes from a modern national perspective.
The holy Roman Empire was created originally by Charlemagne, who is by all accounts French. Germany as a nation did not exist until the 19th century. You cannot call the successor of Rome German because after the fall of Rome Germany did not exist.
You,like many other historical revisionist, try to "steal" all germanic people as belonging to Germany, just to glorify your own nation.
@wachaufeuropa sorry but i don't if you want to give a nationality to charlemagne it would be german, even if it didn't exist back then, neither french did! and historians would agree with me on it, because he was simply of germanic culture! don't make the same fault like others, germany didn't exist as a modern nation nation until the 19th century but there are germans since the middle ages. i do not steal, i just know which tribes r our ancestors!
No there are not germans since the middle ages. There are bavarian from the bavarian kingdom, and various tribal groups like the teutons, the frisians, saxons, etc...
There were however GERMANIC people, and again they were not limited to Germany. They founded all of modern western Europe !
One does not need to speak or have germanic culture to be germanic !
The lombards in Italy, the Vandals in Africa, the franks of France are a good example
@wachaufeuropa hi. enyoyed reading your posts. the celts? these are celts as in ireland or scotland? if so, where did they originate. europe or gb? also, i figured germany wasnt a country until recent history. one guy on utube stated " Germany was a monarchy since the fall of the charlemagne's empire and not a citi-state/municipalities." maybe we are both partially correct. would appreciate your answer. you seem quite knowledgable.. thank you
You basically steal all of the Germanic people's history by claiming it to be German.
And moreover, Germanic people are not native to Germany. They all came from Scandinavia, so basically they invaded Germany which originally belonged to the celts.
Honestly you know nothing of anthropology.
"German" is actually derivative of a celtic word meaning "Stranger" because the celts called the germanic that way when they saw them invading from Scandinavia.
@wachaufeuropa whenever did i claim anything by the scandinavians who are also germanics? the proto type of germanic culture is the jastorf culture based in northern germany! they dont come from scandinavia! im just aware of the tribes who made our german nation and who founded lots of nations elsewhere!
Yet genetically pure Germans are identical to Scandinavians.
Its even obvious when just comparing physically.
Basically Celts controlled all of continental Western Europe. Germanic controlled Scandinavia. Then Germanic came from the north and Romans pushed from the south, and eventually the celts lost continental Europe.
By the way the modern nation of Germany (excluding very modern influences) is a mix of celt and Germanic just like France is.
We know very well anthropologically how the celts looked like.
The gauls are celts living in the area called by the Romans "Gallica".
Irish people are authentic celts. French people, if they were celts for the most part, would look like Irish people. However they do not, and are much closer to Germans than Celts. The only celts in France are Bretons (Britanny). The rest is Germanic. Its simple logic. Numbers or statistics did not exist in those times.
@wachaufeuropa lol and u can tell me who is a true "breton" and who is from the "ile-de-france"? i doubt that. even in the "ile-de-france" where most franks settled, they were outnumbered by gauls and they were hardly represented in the southern part of france!
The thing that you fail to understand is that the Franks were far from the only Germanic invasion into Gaul.
There were the visigoths, the goths, the burgundians (still with noticeable heritage in the modern region of Burgundy), and other numerous tribes that settled all over France and created kingdoms that competed with Ile de France (Francs).
French culture is Frankish culture. French does not equal Gallic or Celtic.
@wachaufeuropa if french culture was frankish culture you would speak "francique" nowadays like we do in our (german) rhine region! it is mostly based on latin culture and all the other germanic tribes also were in minority!
The Franks willingly chose to give up their old Frankish language to speak Latin because they wanted alliance with the pope (clovis) and support of the gallo-roman people.
In a way, their culture "evolved" into modern French culture. They did not abandon their old culture, they just grew.
Germans do not speak the languages of the original tribes. Original tribes out of scandinavia spoke a form of proto germanic language close to very old norwegian/swedish
@wachaufeuropa wrong, they gave up their language due to numbers of gallo romans! sure they helped to create your french culture, but only with a small input! the languages along the rhine are still called "francique" which has a lot more in common with the oldgerman the franks spoke than nowadays french!
The large number of Gallo Roman meant that they could not impose Old Frankish on them. Thus that is what I am saying. Politically they adopted the language of the conquered.
You're saying that French culture is small part from Franks ? How about the fact that all middle age history of France , ALL OF 1500 years French kings are from Frankish dynasties (merovingian/carolingian/Capetian) ?
Small influence ? It drove all of France in law and history until today !
@wachaufeuropa before you call me francophob or racist, you should check your own antisemit and racist profile on here! i'm neither the one or the other, i know history, and it's simply a fact that france was founded by germanic people who originated in modern germany!
@wachaufeuropa "the french" were never germanic, the franks were! so it were the germanics who spread christianism! moreover the "pagan" germanic tribes were mostly conquered by "the german franks" along the rhine and main area who had hardly mixed with any gallo-romans! the "french" nation is a nation built by invaders!
The French people, as a modern nation, like Germany, are a congregation of European races, like Celts and Germanic, sometimes slavic, and latin.
Calling Germanic tribes German does not make sense, thats the problem in your argument.
Because simply put, when the Romans fell, all of Western Europe became Germanic. Germany might have a higher ratio of Germanic vs Celts, but its still about the same as France or even Italy.
You're basically doing something that you should be ashamed of doing as a German, because Hitler did exactly the same. You try to STEAL the work of the Germanic tribes as the legacy of modern Germany, which it is not.
Did you know that the Waffen SS when they came to France, wanted to steal Frankish relics in churches and monuments because they claim them as german property (like bayeux tapestry) ?!! You are doing exactly the same nonsense !
@wachaufeuropa simply bullshit, when i talk of germanics who are the ancestors of modern germans im talking about those who lived on german territory! i never said that a scandinavian was german!
However, many French (even of Germanic origin), like to associate themselves and their country with the gauls.
Because the Gauls are often romanticized as being perfect being with blond hair, blue eyes, and always resisting against the invader, drinking wine, fighting for freedom, and "embodies" French culture.
Most of it is wrong though, for example do you know Astérix the cartoon ? Most "gallic" traditions presented in this book are actually not gallic but Frankish.
@wachaufeuropa true, nowadays they do! i don't know if it's a sign of identity complex. at last, there is not much left of the original "french" culture of the gauls, after they have been invaded by the romans and then by the germanics. who was this famous french man again, who complained about the name "france" for a country mostly made of gauls?? but i didn't know about the frankish influence on asterix.
Identity complex ? You don't have a clue about French history or identity.
No offense but you should study history.
The French think themselves as Latins although they are a "barbarian" Germanic tribe. Why ? Because in modern times French politicians wanted to give a reason to invade Germany or "the barbarians on the east of the Rhine".
Since Charlemagne, France considers itself the modern Roman Empire. All modern French institutions are based on this.
@wachaufeuropa well u r just pointing out the "identity complex im talking about! "defeating the barbarians on the east side of the rhine" and basing its own identity on these barbarians creates a complex! maybe thats another complex, that germany became de facto the next roman empire and not france!
@celebration81 Yea the french retained a lot of their Gaelic (Celtic Gaul) lineage, food, managing systems, and even administrative layout of the whole region, although they did not keep their language. They are also very mixed with many other minor ethnicities like the Normans (Descendants of Danish Vikings), the Basques in Southwestern France, and the Bretons in Brittany (which are also Celtic descendants from the Welsh region).
@DrHanLecter me, as historian, don't agree with you! the holy roman empire develloped out of the east frankish kingdom, which later mainly became germany. louis the german was never emperior, he was king of east francia. the real founder of the (holy) roman empire is otto the great!
@nightwish1000 I'm sorry. You are right. I meant Lothair I. but he was only roman emperor. Otto the Great was really the first "german" emperor. That's true. The real problem is that Germany was always a part from the Holy Roman Empire, so it's not always easy to seperate. But Otto was also only emperor of the so called Holy Empire or the Roman Empire.
@DrHanLecter Charlemagne has pretty much always been reckoned in regnal lists as both the Holy Roman Emperor Charles I and King Charles I of France. This is admittedly a bit of retrospective anachronism, but while the Frankish kings before him assembled something, it was he who was crowned in Rome on Christmas Day in the year 800 as Emperor of the West (as opposed to the Eastern Emperor who still reigned in Constantinople until 1453).
@dakrihal you are true... but it was not "Charlemagne" Charlemagne is a name he never heard in his lifetime. He was known to his people as Karl, and to latin people as "carolus", or more correct "carolus magnus"
@DrHanLecter as a historian you should know the Louis the German was not emperor but king of East Francia. Otto I. is usually considered to be the first Roman-German emperor.
Charlemagne or Carlus Magnus or Karl Der Gross ^^ is a perfect example of European man for me and a longtime before our beautifull & current Union made in peace, finally after centuries of fraternals wars :
He 's French for French & Germand for German ^^
He' s especially a true European Emperor (the 1st in all history of Europe)
The truth is here and in this example my friends & European citizens, follow this road :-)
"He 's especially a true European Emperor (the 1st in all history of Europe)"
perhaps you forget'n the Roman emperors, more specifically speaking of the Antonine dynasty, Trajan, Hadrian, Marcus Aurelius etc, that comparatively had a such titanical power that, not even the best Holy Roman Emperors could have imagined,
and yes in the times of charlesV holy roman emperor and king of spain, yes the power of the spanish conquerors crush the aztecs and incas in the americas,but an European empire which extended from the north of Scotland in the North Sea to the borders of Nubia and the Atlantic from Portugal{finis terra} to Iran{persia} and the Persian Gulf and the Caspian Sea,the Romans were the best of the best,the roman empire was the best european civilization.
not even the umayad caliphat or the ottoman empire could not be owners of the mediterranean and black sea,as the romans did,for something the Romans used to say that the mediterranean sea and black sea were part of his
Sometimes I wonder,if a elective constitutional monarchy,without nobilities(the rot part)just with a king as the protector/champion of the peoples,is not better than a Presidential Democracy.
I mean Presidential Democracies,fail everywhere,except in France,and Germany,states full of extremely cult persons that have the knowledge to defend their rights and liberties,constantly presenting excellent political classes,ready to have great power in their hands without using it for their own gains.
god bless charlemagne king of franks (france) and specialy to the grand father charles martel who stoppppppppppped the muslims in poitier and saved europe from the hell
distick63 10 months ago 2
@distick63 wrong charle the great in german karl der grosse or Redbeard was German.true he was the emperor of the Holy roman empire of german heritage.and sure king of the franks.they were western franks/french and eastern franks/german
TheHockeyfreak1964 7 months ago
@distick63 The Franks are Franks, no French, no Germans
shadowhunting 5 months ago
@distick63 Franks didnt translate to French. Charlemagne after all had his "capital" in whats today Aachen! French and France as we know today was invention of French Revolution. Such thing didnt exist in time of Charlemagne! Also Charlemagne is also the Father of Germany in that case. And dont forget the great effort of Eastern Roman Empire that stop the Main Muslim Forces from invading Europe. Withoud it I dont know anny other force that could stop them.
ImperialGuard9001 3 months ago
hi. was wondering if i could ask you. i thought germany as a country was fairly new. that it was made up of different municipalities? prussia bulgaria etc. if you had time to give me a quick run down id greatly appreciate it. someone on utbe stated " Germany was a monarchy since the fall of the charlemagne's empire and not a citi-state/municipalities." maybe we are both correct. thank you
pederman15 11 months ago
@pederman15 well Germany itself has been around since juluis ceaser crossed the rhine and meet up with a tribe of tall strong poeple. modern Germany didnt ahppen until 1871, but It went from tribes and viking villages to an Empire[Holy Rome] then went from Holy Rome to a bunch of states. Now you must remeber that even though Holy Rome was a German Reich it held Slavic lands and Slavic poeple witch would be bulgaria, Hungary etc. but mostly Germans in Germany and Austria
SuperTravis898 10 months ago
French people are much more Roman/Latin than fake Romans, Germans LOL Germans were fur wearing and mountain dwelling barbarians before real Romans introduced civilization to them.
Cengiz78x 1 year ago
@Cengiz78x at least they were original
FuckNewJersey 1 year ago
The title "Of German Nation" is only a invention of the 15th century. The titles are Sacrum Imperium around 1157 and Sacrum Romanum Imperium around 1254 officially mentioned. Nationis Germanicae was firts mentioned during the late 15th century, so this video ist wrong
DrHanLecter 1 year ago
Do a search on You Tube for a video titled :
"Stop the Genocide of European Mankind David Duke"
Amazing video !
Achilles1389 2 years ago
Well, nice work but Carlus Magnus was never the emperor of the Holy Roman Empire of German Nation.
He was the emperor of the Frankish Empire. Louis II. 'The German' was the first emperor. And he was only the emperor of the Holy Roman Empire. Of German Nation is a later title of the empire. Sorry but as historian I had to say that.
DrHanLecter 2 years ago
The German authors and illustrators who put the above set of images together must not have agreed. They obviously did not have all the Frankish rulers included, but 'Karl der Grosse' certainly was.
MadMonarchist 2 years ago
@MadMonarchist The Frankish Emperors are certainly regarded to be the predescessors of the HR Emperors. Just look at the numbering.
Popperite 1 year ago
Frankish Emperors have never existed. They were so-called Holy Roman Emperors. Ironically the genetically and linguistic descendents of the Franks are the present-day Germans. French have completly different genetic and language background than modern French people.
celebration81 2 years ago 5
Wrong....
Im French and I can trace my family lines back to old frankish families...
France is about 60 % germanic 40 % Celtic.
Celtic mostly in Britanny but the rest of France is Germanic.
Especially after WW2 I traveled to both Germany and France and I feel there are sometimes more Germanic in some parts of France than in Germany itself
wachaufeuropa 2 years ago
Average french people have too dark pigmentation to be germanic descendant (average hair eye skin color)
celebration81 2 years ago
Maybe in movies which represent fake France.
Have you been to France yourself ?
And not an immigrant hub like Paris or Marseilles.
I mean a real French village with 100 % french genes.
wachaufeuropa 2 years ago
Haha, I traveled to various parts of France many times. Therefore you can't lie. :)
celebration81 2 years ago
Well different opinions then.
I feel that there is no difference between Germans and French except the language of course. At least where I have been.
In fact many people in the US think Im German when they talk to me and are always stunned when I tell them Im French because I dont "fit the stereotype" of the French.
wachaufeuropa 2 years ago
@wachaufeuropa
Souther part of France is composed from latins too, romans used to rule the Gaules for centuries!
picsoupe 2 years ago
That's true.
Southwest France has basque people aswell, which are not roman but some kind of Spanish.
Southeast has Italian.
But mostly those are minorities that don't form a substantial amount of the population.
If I were to mention all the minorities of France, it would take pages.
Even within the Germanic or Celtic groups, there are 100s different tribes.
wachaufeuropa 2 years ago
@wachaufeuropa
France is 61% celtic.and Germany is 44.5 % celtic.
StellandBlood 1 year ago
@StellandBlood
Interesting but where do you get this info ?
I would say that those stats are way too high, especially in Germany.
Thanks.
wachaufeuropa 1 year ago
@wachaufeuropa
@StellandBlood
Google EUPEDIA,Distribution of European Y-chromosome DNA (Y-DNA) haplogroups by region in percentage.
Thanks for the invite.
StellandBlood 1 year ago
@StellandBlood
Interesting but where do you get this info ?
I would say that those stats are way too high, especially in Germany.
Thanks.
wachaufeuropa 1 year ago
@StellandBlood
Interesting but where do you get this info ?
I would say that those stats are way too high, especially in Germany.
Thanks.
wachaufeuropa 1 year ago
@StellandBlood
Interesting but where do you get this info ?
I would say that those stats are way too high, especially in Germany.
Thanks.
wachaufeuropa 1 year ago
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StellandBlood 1 year ago
@wachaufeuropa thats nonsense! the germanics (especially the franks) were always largely outnumbered by the gaullois in france. that's the reason why the french speak a roman language today.
nightwish1000 1 year ago
@nightwish1000
That's a wrong assertion because French comes from Latin spoken by the Franks.
The expression "Lingua Franca", meaning "Language of the Franks" illustrates this.
And latin did not come from the Gauls but from the Romans.
Gauls actually did not even call themselves gauls, they were celts speaking an extinct language similar to Irish and of the same ethnic group as Irish or native Britons. But obviously French dont look like Irish, thus are mostly not gaul.
wachaufeuropa 1 year ago
@wachaufeuropa sorry but that is wrong! "french" comes from "franc" because the francs in the western empire took over the latin language. "lingua franca" has nothing to do with french, it was mostly composed of italian words (80%) and was spoken around the mediterenean sea! as if u can tell nowadays how a typical gaul looks like lol! it's based on numbers that germanic people were always a minority in later france!
nightwish1000 1 year ago
@nightwish1000
You're not reading or understand what I am writing.
I know Francais comes from Franc, which are a germanic tribe.
What I am saying is that the french language derives from the "vulgar" latin which was spoken by the Francs. The expression "Lingua Franca" means a language shared by numerous ethnic groups. The latin spoked by the French at the beginning of the middle ages was called lingua franca by Italians because it was latin spoken by the Franks.
wachaufeuropa 1 year ago
@wachaufeuropa first of all, it was the "vulgar latin" spoken by the gauls, which was adopted by the franks(because they were outnumbered), who originally spoke oldgerman. it was called "french" later because the gauls started to call themselves "franks". the italian called the language around the mediteranean "lingua franca" because the arabs called all europeans "frank" and not because it was spoken by franks it was mostly italian!
nightwish1000 1 year ago
@nightwish1000
At the end of the day, the Germans and French are identital. Just different linguistically.
They both created fictitious nations and created stories to differentiate them from each other.
Both consider themselves successor of the Roman Empire (Although with Germany's loss of WW2, Germany really is nothing like it was back then) and have pretension to invade and annex the opposite side of the rhine.
wachaufeuropa 1 year ago
@wachaufeuropa i dont' argue about any blood questions! it's only against historical facts to call the franks "french", in the first place they r germanics from modern german territories! the successor of rome was germany, there is no doubt about that and actually we never wanted territories which didn't culturally belong to us, unlike the french!
nightwish1000 1 year ago
@nightwish1000
The problem with your historical view is that it comes from a modern national perspective.
The holy Roman Empire was created originally by Charlemagne, who is by all accounts French. Germany as a nation did not exist until the 19th century. You cannot call the successor of Rome German because after the fall of Rome Germany did not exist.
You,like many other historical revisionist, try to "steal" all germanic people as belonging to Germany, just to glorify your own nation.
wachaufeuropa 1 year ago
@wachaufeuropa sorry but i don't if you want to give a nationality to charlemagne it would be german, even if it didn't exist back then, neither french did! and historians would agree with me on it, because he was simply of germanic culture! don't make the same fault like others, germany didn't exist as a modern nation nation until the 19th century but there are germans since the middle ages. i do not steal, i just know which tribes r our ancestors!
nightwish1000 1 year ago
@nightwish1000
No there are not germans since the middle ages. There are bavarian from the bavarian kingdom, and various tribal groups like the teutons, the frisians, saxons, etc...
There were however GERMANIC people, and again they were not limited to Germany. They founded all of modern western Europe !
One does not need to speak or have germanic culture to be germanic !
The lombards in Italy, the Vandals in Africa, the franks of France are a good example
wachaufeuropa 1 year ago
@wachaufeuropa hi. enyoyed reading your posts. the celts? these are celts as in ireland or scotland? if so, where did they originate. europe or gb? also, i figured germany wasnt a country until recent history. one guy on utube stated " Germany was a monarchy since the fall of the charlemagne's empire and not a citi-state/municipalities." maybe we are both partially correct. would appreciate your answer. you seem quite knowledgable.. thank you
pederman15 11 months ago
@nightwish1000
You basically steal all of the Germanic people's history by claiming it to be German.
And moreover, Germanic people are not native to Germany. They all came from Scandinavia, so basically they invaded Germany which originally belonged to the celts.
Honestly you know nothing of anthropology.
"German" is actually derivative of a celtic word meaning "Stranger" because the celts called the germanic that way when they saw them invading from Scandinavia.
wachaufeuropa 1 year ago
@wachaufeuropa whenever did i claim anything by the scandinavians who are also germanics? the proto type of germanic culture is the jastorf culture based in northern germany! they dont come from scandinavia! im just aware of the tribes who made our german nation and who founded lots of nations elsewhere!
nightwish1000 1 year ago
@nightwish1000
Yet genetically pure Germans are identical to Scandinavians.
Its even obvious when just comparing physically.
Basically Celts controlled all of continental Western Europe. Germanic controlled Scandinavia. Then Germanic came from the north and Romans pushed from the south, and eventually the celts lost continental Europe.
By the way the modern nation of Germany (excluding very modern influences) is a mix of celt and Germanic just like France is.
wachaufeuropa 1 year ago
@nightwish1000
We know very well anthropologically how the celts looked like.
The gauls are celts living in the area called by the Romans "Gallica".
Irish people are authentic celts. French people, if they were celts for the most part, would look like Irish people. However they do not, and are much closer to Germans than Celts. The only celts in France are Bretons (Britanny). The rest is Germanic. Its simple logic. Numbers or statistics did not exist in those times.
wachaufeuropa 1 year ago
@wachaufeuropa lol and u can tell me who is a true "breton" and who is from the "ile-de-france"? i doubt that. even in the "ile-de-france" where most franks settled, they were outnumbered by gauls and they were hardly represented in the southern part of france!
nightwish1000 1 year ago
@nightwish1000
The thing that you fail to understand is that the Franks were far from the only Germanic invasion into Gaul.
There were the visigoths, the goths, the burgundians (still with noticeable heritage in the modern region of Burgundy), and other numerous tribes that settled all over France and created kingdoms that competed with Ile de France (Francs).
French culture is Frankish culture. French does not equal Gallic or Celtic.
wachaufeuropa 1 year ago
@wachaufeuropa if french culture was frankish culture you would speak "francique" nowadays like we do in our (german) rhine region! it is mostly based on latin culture and all the other germanic tribes also were in minority!
nightwish1000 1 year ago
@nightwish1000
Error after error.
The Franks willingly chose to give up their old Frankish language to speak Latin because they wanted alliance with the pope (clovis) and support of the gallo-roman people.
In a way, their culture "evolved" into modern French culture. They did not abandon their old culture, they just grew.
Germans do not speak the languages of the original tribes. Original tribes out of scandinavia spoke a form of proto germanic language close to very old norwegian/swedish
wachaufeuropa 1 year ago
@wachaufeuropa wrong, they gave up their language due to numbers of gallo romans! sure they helped to create your french culture, but only with a small input! the languages along the rhine are still called "francique" which has a lot more in common with the oldgerman the franks spoke than nowadays french!
nightwish1000 1 year ago
@nightwish1000
The large number of Gallo Roman meant that they could not impose Old Frankish on them. Thus that is what I am saying. Politically they adopted the language of the conquered.
You're saying that French culture is small part from Franks ? How about the fact that all middle age history of France , ALL OF 1500 years French kings are from Frankish dynasties (merovingian/carolingian/Capetian) ?
Small influence ? It drove all of France in law and history until today !
wachaufeuropa 1 year ago
@wachaufeuropa that's not culure that is politics! france nowadays is mainly a latin country!
nightwish1000 1 year ago
@nightwish1000
You're confused by everything boy.
What do you even mean by latin ?
Latin race ? Like the ancient romans ?
Latin linguistics ? Well France then was "latin" since the invasion by Caesar of the Gallic region.
You are full of nonsense and it doesn't hide your irrational francophobia. Thankfully not all Germans are like that.
Its the kind of mentality (which also exists in France), that created world wars.
wachaufeuropa 1 year ago
@wachaufeuropa before you call me francophob or racist, you should check your own antisemit and racist profile on here! i'm neither the one or the other, i know history, and it's simply a fact that france was founded by germanic people who originated in modern germany!
nightwish1000 1 year ago
@nightwish1000
Finally I add : Actually at the time of Charlemagne, the French (not modern French) were the only people that were Christian among Germanic tribes.
Germanic tribes in Germany were mostly pagan and Charlemagne and the French killed thousands of them to spread the religion.
This shows two things : 1. The Francs not seeing themselves part of any "Germanic nation" and OK with killing other germanic tribes.
2. The start of a unique *French* nation and culture
wachaufeuropa 1 year ago
@wachaufeuropa "the french" were never germanic, the franks were! so it were the germanics who spread christianism! moreover the "pagan" germanic tribes were mostly conquered by "the german franks" along the rhine and main area who had hardly mixed with any gallo-romans! the "french" nation is a nation built by invaders!
nightwish1000 1 year ago
@nightwish1000
Germanic is a race.
The French people, as a modern nation, like Germany, are a congregation of European races, like Celts and Germanic, sometimes slavic, and latin.
Calling Germanic tribes German does not make sense, thats the problem in your argument.
Because simply put, when the Romans fell, all of Western Europe became Germanic. Germany might have a higher ratio of Germanic vs Celts, but its still about the same as France or even Italy.
wachaufeuropa 1 year ago
@nightwish1000
You're basically doing something that you should be ashamed of doing as a German, because Hitler did exactly the same. You try to STEAL the work of the Germanic tribes as the legacy of modern Germany, which it is not.
Did you know that the Waffen SS when they came to France, wanted to steal Frankish relics in churches and monuments because they claim them as german property (like bayeux tapestry) ?!! You are doing exactly the same nonsense !
wachaufeuropa 1 year ago
@wachaufeuropa simply bullshit, when i talk of germanics who are the ancestors of modern germans im talking about those who lived on german territory! i never said that a scandinavian was german!
nightwish1000 1 year ago
@nightwish1000
I can tell you with certainty who is a Breton and who is a Frenchman.
Go to Bretagne and ask a Breton. They have an extremely distinct culture, language,and ethnic group.
Alot of them dislike the rest of the French, or the Franks as they call them.
wachaufeuropa 1 year ago
@wachaufeuropa no no no, not so easy you talked about the looks!
nightwish1000 1 year ago
@nightwish1000
Watch the video currently on my channel it will explain many things.
"Charlemagne and the rise of the Franks"
wachaufeuropa 1 year ago
@nightwish1000
However, many French (even of Germanic origin), like to associate themselves and their country with the gauls.
Because the Gauls are often romanticized as being perfect being with blond hair, blue eyes, and always resisting against the invader, drinking wine, fighting for freedom, and "embodies" French culture.
Most of it is wrong though, for example do you know Astérix the cartoon ? Most "gallic" traditions presented in this book are actually not gallic but Frankish.
wachaufeuropa 1 year ago
@wachaufeuropa true, nowadays they do! i don't know if it's a sign of identity complex. at last, there is not much left of the original "french" culture of the gauls, after they have been invaded by the romans and then by the germanics. who was this famous french man again, who complained about the name "france" for a country mostly made of gauls?? but i didn't know about the frankish influence on asterix.
nightwish1000 1 year ago
@nightwish1000
Identity complex ? You don't have a clue about French history or identity.
No offense but you should study history.
The French think themselves as Latins although they are a "barbarian" Germanic tribe. Why ? Because in modern times French politicians wanted to give a reason to invade Germany or "the barbarians on the east of the Rhine".
Since Charlemagne, France considers itself the modern Roman Empire. All modern French institutions are based on this.
wachaufeuropa 1 year ago
@wachaufeuropa well u r just pointing out the "identity complex im talking about! "defeating the barbarians on the east side of the rhine" and basing its own identity on these barbarians creates a complex! maybe thats another complex, that germany became de facto the next roman empire and not france!
nightwish1000 1 year ago
@celebration81 Yea the french retained a lot of their Gaelic (Celtic Gaul) lineage, food, managing systems, and even administrative layout of the whole region, although they did not keep their language. They are also very mixed with many other minor ethnicities like the Normans (Descendants of Danish Vikings), the Basques in Southwestern France, and the Bretons in Brittany (which are also Celtic descendants from the Welsh region).
MrAlstair123 3 months ago
@DrHanLecter me, as historian, don't agree with you! the holy roman empire develloped out of the east frankish kingdom, which later mainly became germany. louis the german was never emperior, he was king of east francia. the real founder of the (holy) roman empire is otto the great!
nightwish1000 1 year ago
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DrHanLecter 1 year ago
@nightwish1000 I'm sorry. You are right. I meant Lothair I. but he was only roman emperor. Otto the Great was really the first "german" emperor. That's true. The real problem is that Germany was always a part from the Holy Roman Empire, so it's not always easy to seperate. But Otto was also only emperor of the so called Holy Empire or the Roman Empire.
DrHanLecter 1 year ago
@DrHanLecter Charlemagne has pretty much always been reckoned in regnal lists as both the Holy Roman Emperor Charles I and King Charles I of France. This is admittedly a bit of retrospective anachronism, but while the Frankish kings before him assembled something, it was he who was crowned in Rome on Christmas Day in the year 800 as Emperor of the West (as opposed to the Eastern Emperor who still reigned in Constantinople until 1453).
MassCityGent 1 year ago
@DrHanLecter: You, sir, are wrong. Charlemagne was king of the Franks. He was later crowned to the Holy Roman Emperor by the Pope in Rome.
dakrihal 1 year ago
@dakrihal you are true... but it was not "Charlemagne" Charlemagne is a name he never heard in his lifetime. He was known to his people as Karl, and to latin people as "carolus", or more correct "carolus magnus"
000000AEA000000 1 year ago
@DrHanLecter as a historian you should know the Louis the German was not emperor but king of East Francia. Otto I. is usually considered to be the first Roman-German emperor.
MacX1985 10 months ago
nice education video
5*****
Charlemagne or Carlus Magnus or Karl Der Gross ^^ is a perfect example of European man for me and a longtime before our beautifull & current Union made in peace, finally after centuries of fraternals wars :
He 's French for French & Germand for German ^^
He' s especially a true European Emperor (the 1st in all history of Europe)
The truth is here and in this example my friends & European citizens, follow this road :-)
cumbas 2 years ago 2
Cumba,what are you trying to say, whit;
"He 's especially a true European Emperor (the 1st in all history of Europe)"
perhaps you forget'n the Roman emperors, more specifically speaking of the Antonine dynasty, Trajan, Hadrian, Marcus Aurelius etc, that comparatively had a such titanical power that, not even the best Holy Roman Emperors could have imagined,
gueropalma1990 2 years ago
and yes in the times of charlesV holy roman emperor and king of spain, yes the power of the spanish conquerors crush the aztecs and incas in the americas,but an European empire which extended from the north of Scotland in the North Sea to the borders of Nubia and the Atlantic from Portugal{finis terra} to Iran{persia} and the Persian Gulf and the Caspian Sea,the Romans were the best of the best,the roman empire was the best european civilization.
gueropalma1990 2 years ago
not even the umayad caliphat or the ottoman empire could not be owners of the mediterranean and black sea,as the romans did,for something the Romans used to say that the mediterranean sea and black sea were part of his
"mare nostrum"{our sea} , or,our private lakes
gueropalma1990 2 years ago
@gueropalma1990
what ??
my answer will be jsut : a big LOOOOL
cumbas 2 years ago
Most informative!
AXA0032 2 years ago
Excellente vidéo, très intéressante.
thecajuncutthroat 2 years ago
Sometimes I wonder,if a elective constitutional monarchy,without nobilities(the rot part)just with a king as the protector/champion of the peoples,is not better than a Presidential Democracy.
I mean Presidential Democracies,fail everywhere,except in France,and Germany,states full of extremely cult persons that have the knowledge to defend their rights and liberties,constantly presenting excellent political classes,ready to have great power in their hands without using it for their own gains.
ViriathusVingathor 2 years ago
Fantastic music.
ViriathusVingathor 2 years ago
the title of german nation was added in the 16th century..
Perokneznik 2 years ago