the reason why australian dnt use green and gold in combat eny more cuz it doesnt blend it we use multicam now so why do ur standard american troops use the worst camo today when in the past u guys had desert cam which worked pretty good
I've seen those new A-TACs and im impressed (A-TAC & A-TAC FG). They are some of the uniform patterns being tested to for the replacement of the UCP. I don't know why the Army didn't just do that the Marines did and keep the 2 pattern system (like every other modern fighting force)
The ACU doesn't only suck because of the camo pattern. The material sucks, too. It's a compromise between winter and summer weight. For forest environments, I'd use a MARPAT uniform. For the desert, depending where I am, I'd either use my six-color desert BDU or my DCU. The BDU is WAY more comfortable than the ACU.
It cant just be me but ACU might just be the worst camo pattern I've ever seen to me it makes them stand out more. Marine digital marpat with the dark brown blends in great but Army Acu's to me it might as well be blaze orange.
I really do like the look of the ACU's but, in green vegetation it does stick out like a sore thumb. In the desert it blends fairly well but I do agree it works better when dirty. Overall it is a nice uniform, much better than the old desert camouflage from the first gulf war. If the ACU's were slightly darker then I feel they would blend better. The Multicam is not bad for area's with vegetation.
The ACU works when it's washed a few times and dirtied up which if you are combat soldier should be no problem. The only thing is the velcro sucks get rid of all velcro and it should be fine. Also the fact the every branch has their own uniform was the stupidest idea ever
it perform very good in mountains and urban places, but darker environments, like forests, is it main weakness. Same thing but at a much less degree with multicam.
well A-tacs is just a concept. it's just that the only one that's out right now is the desert. forest green A-tacs is coming in a week. after that...who know?
ACU, were meant to be used for rough and mountain terrains and environment. As someone already commented, ACU were worn incase the insurgents are using NV (night-vision). ACU were also used as base uniform to let people in iraq know these are US soldiers and not terrorists. Also Muti-cam is most likely to be better ACU since, MC are blended with 3 or more colors.
I see a video proving that it does not work most of the time. It also glows in the moonlight. Multicam is much better. We need to go back to having two different camos and maybe a third for places like A-stan were terrain varies in the same region.
@brandonch25 It comes close enough to glowing. When establishing a PB, we noticed we could see each Soldier due to the moon reflecting. They seriously looked like grey blobs due to the way the moonlight relflected. We had everyone put on their wet-weather gear(which was still woodland) and suddenly, they were nowhere near as visible. Seriously....these things reflected a lot more light than practical.
ACU is meant to be IR so you can't see in through Night-Vision. It's also grey for a reason. It easily gets dirtied from the terrain around it, so it blends in with what it is around...
@kingtaythe2 Exactly. It also only works in rocky and urban terrains. Not jungle terrains, Not Forrest terrains, Not dessert terrains and not in arctic terrains.
ACU really does work most of the time. You have to be more than like 5 feet away for you to blend in. It's these army photos where they take pictures of them from 2 feet away make ACU look like crap.
There is no perfect camouflage pattern for every situation and there never will be. Photos and videos trying to prove this are futile. Camouflage developement is based on the effects on a object, color and patern at varying distances and the visible light spectrum. Until a chameleon effect type of camouflage is developed these types of debates are more of a popularity contest.
ACU doesn't blend into anything besides gravel. It's meant to play with the mind's senses so not to be eye catching. It kinda works in this respect but not nearly well enough to salvage the pattern. Everyone I know in the Army wants to go over to Multicam. I hope the brass get the message.
I have a couple of things in UCP. I haven't done any testing on it in the field. But it looks to me like UCP wouldn't be that effective. Multicam would probably work better. The other downside to UCP is that it's the pattern used by the Army. I don't want people to think I am in the army when I am not. My pack is woodland with 2 UCP sustainment pouches on it. I regularly wear digital woodland pants. But even with my deliberately mismatched camo pasterns some people still think I am military.
ACU works in the rocks and urban environments. it works well in the middle east but not in the woodlands. i like it somewhat but the Army should have a woodland camo too if they want that stoney of a color. so glad they got the new MULTICAM!
hey man the acu works well after you beat the shit out of it and it starts to fade but i mean like you have to beat the shit out of it multicam is the game now
ACU works as a nonfriendly fire uniform. no more "oh man i almost shot you!" its all "oh man i totally saw you from a mile away , thank god you werent wearing multicam, or else i wouldnt see you"
ACU does not work in Iraq and especially in Afghanistan, Afghan is desert and trees, after 1 mile of rucking you can bet you'll find yourself near bushes, or shrubs. ACU makes you stick out like a boner in a speedo. The only time ACU actually works is if it gets muddy or dirty, but that's because the particles from the dirt and debris stick to the Uniform itself. Multicam is no doubt the best in Afghanistan, and UCP-Delta is far better in Iraq. UCP-Delta blends with the surroundings.
@SaiVihtooMyint and UCP-Delta uses the same principles as ACU using the light to break up the human outline. ACU really only works if theres little to no light. The reason they chose gray is because after a few "extensive" testing, they found out Gray was less appealing to the eye instead of black, green, or tan. Which is true, but not when there's green all around you and your gray. But I love the idea of the blocks instead of blotches in MultiCam because its been proven blocks work better.
i don't think acu's are good at all i mean the look cool but not really funtional out in the field there just like navy's digital looks sick but not affective
@Bobert1016 Besides.. it's about the guys staying alive. i know there is a certain amount pride with the marines .. but hey they shared the same design for years anyways right ? I think Marpat would keep more guys alive that's all.. it's just a name. Switch the design slightly and Call it Armpat. lol
@Bobert1016 Not sure what that means ? I am well aware of the anagram Mar pat. Our's is called Cad pat. we invented it that is what I am saying. the Mar pat is based on the CAD PAT design. Check it out yourself if you don't believe me.. Hey the documentation doesn't lie. I like both the CadPat and the Marpat Designs. So what is it that you are saying anyways because I am confused.. and what is a derp ?
@chubbz187 You wouldn't want to have back lash from the Marines would you? I think General James Amos would be pissed off with civilians mistaking soldiers from Marines. :P ACU and MARPAT both exist to have people tell the difference between a soldier and a Marine.
@PlaidShirtsAreAwesom why not they been mistaking marines for Canadian soldiers for years. we invented the digital pattern that the marines and us army adopted . except ours is called cad pat and proven to be the best of any design. not bragging just saying. our woodland pattern is the best in the world. look it up sometime. it's pretty cool.
@PlaidShirtsAreAwesom Sorry I didn't read your post well.. Haha.. your right. The Marines are Group of monsters and our guys love em. our Army are the marines of Canada and we love those cats.
@PlaidShirtsAreAwesom Well they certainly can tell the difference.. haha the marines Arid design rocks. you can't see those fella's coming that is certain.
@PlaidShirtsAreAwesom I really could not give a shit, they are both soldiers. It would be better to unify them with the same uniform, one that actually works.
@DuhyatheSecond Fuck no were not both soldiers.Call a Marine a soldier and be prepared to be corrected.I earned my fucking title as Marine not soldier,so never say their both soldiers.
@matthew562 U call it a title?Brain wash fuck u are! just like the rest. "We earned the title" u think Army personnel dont earn shit? Do u even know the word Marines ? Marines is part of the squid family( Navy) that's it,u are nothing special bitch, unless u are part of special group in the military,does'nt matter what branch it is.Every branch has "special" forces, stop glorifying your self just bcz u wear the pretty uniform u think u all are better.Marines r more brain wash thn the rest,fact!
@totoynani143 Wtf!? It is a title you fuck.i call army personel soldiers because that is the title they earned and Marines are Marines because they earned that title as well and that goes the same for all the branches. It is a title every member every servicemember has earned and it will disrespect to call them something theyre not. i am never said i was special, just stating the importance of being called by the title i have earned you fuck. Get a fucking life.
@totoynani143 Wtf!? It is a title you fuck.i call army personel soldiers because that is the title they earned and Marines are Marines because they earned that title as well and that goes the same for all the branches. It is a title every member every servicemember has earned and it will disrespect to call them something theyre not. i am never said i was special, just stating the importance of being called by the title i have earned you fuck. Get a fucking life.
@DuhyatheSecond It doesn't work that way..The way I see it they wear it for the mission, You wouldn't see a seal running around in this because that would be stupid.
@DuhyatheSecond You're point is very valid as I am enlisting in the Marine Corps. I finish my paperwork in Feb. But here's the thing, the Army is starting to scrap ACU and re-issue as much Multicam as they can. I believe both of you are right. Marines should be signified, but you also don't want soldiers marked as targets. The Army issued Multicam to their SF first, now it's going to all. ACU is garbage, I own a set I got from a friend to Airsoft with and I can't blend in really anywhere.
@bandbairsoft857 I don't live in mountains so i use cadpat or marpat for camo when playing airsoft, the only place ACU could possibly work is rocky terrain like afghanistan.
@chubbz187 The army would probably use a similar pattern but not exactly MARPAT... and the army generals are too proud to admit that the ACU pattern sucks and MARPAT works and rather than making a slightly different version of the same pattern for the Army they will spend tones of money to make their own pattern
@chubbz187 no disrespect to u bud but plaidshirts madde a point because thats one of the reasons all the branches made there own camos was bcause of confusion
@chubbz187 also , here is a little experiment for you, get your acu out and put them on and hide. then let someone with amber shooting glasses look for you. You will practically glow.
ACU blows dude. The ONLY way we are able to make it work is if we roll around in the sand and mud to stain it then wash, then stain it again. As 1:55 shows, brand new ACU is terrible and blends in with nothing, not even gravel.......
See the thing is the ACU works from a distance. And lets face it usually your between 100-400 metres thats a fair distance. Anything closer than that i reckon you would be seen whatever camo you wore
I can't exactly remember when the Formal Regulation was changed. But, when I was still in service we used the similar trad. Marines Desert. From what I was told ACU blends in well with rocky and white grey sandy climates. The Box Pixels intercept the mind and confuse their target--supposively. Turns out it actually works nicely I wish we had that back in my days we lost quite a bit of people back in the 173rd.
Good god. That stuff might work with kids that dont know what their talking about. ACU are the worst camo the US Army has ever fielded. The only reason they would fit in is because you rolled around in the dirt. Which I have dont more than once, so I wouldnt be a 6 foot sniper target.
If you have not been in the US Army and not been overseas and been in a war with the ACU's then you have no place to say that they are crap or that they do not work, because the ACU Uniform is actually very much a great camo, when you are out the tan/grey blends in with whats around you and the enemies combatant does not see you when you are over a100 yards away. Again if you are not in the US Army or never were then you have no right saying things about it
FAIL, they are trying to make you see that the pattern blends but it is CLEARLY garbage. I like the pic especially at 1:01 ... What are those glowing blue thingies out there? oh theyre US Army Soldiers. From a Sniper's perspective originally i though ACU was genious because when i am trying to aquire targets, if i saw someone wearing that i wouldn't think for 1 second that they were a combatant. Theres no way any one would SERIOUSLY try to fight wearing this crap... not so much!
FAIL, they are trying to make you see that the pattern blends but it is CLEARLY garbage. I like the pic especially at 1:01 ... What are those glowing blue thingies out there? oh theyre US Army Soldiers. From a Sniper's perspective originally i though ACU was genious because when i am trying to aquire targets, if i saw someone wearing that i wouldn't think for 1 second that they were a combatant. Theres no way any one would SERIOUSLY try to fight wearing this crap... not so much!
I really like the Canadian CADPAT and USMC MARPAT. ACU Looks cool but i don;t think it's really effective. ACU may work in some parts of the world but not in the woods!
OK the ACU does work in APPROPRIATE tactical environments. But if that's the case it SHOULDN'T be classified as a UNIVERSAL camouflage pattern. That's why Multicam is way BETTER than ACU. It is universal and I haven't seen an environment that it doesn't work in yet.
lol notice how ACUs work only when really dirty! just ask a grunt multicam is 10 times better it saves lives if we can see the enemy first =) and what good is a dead soldier?
@PlaidShirtsAreAwesom They really dont. They are the same colors, just different pattern. If you want good uniforms, stick with multicam, marine digital woodland/desert, Navy type II and type III, and others along those lines. I can't wait to get the navy type III when it comes out for us.
@MilitaryBrothers In fact, it doesn't. The ACU have 3 colors, the ABU have 4. The 4th is darker. The overall usage of colors on the ABU is darker too. This make the ABU more useful on forest than the ACU.
@navyman8903 its actually decent in the desert and some moderate vegatation areas of an arid environment, oh and the real fail is 2:13 with the lime green belt, non regulation much?
It works in the woods in desert , snow,urban,rookie and NIR. People need to look at it at both sides of the sun, if you look at camo in a 360 view you will find that most black out on one side! meaning they work 50% of the time, ACU uses the shadow line as woodland camo and the other side as an Urban/desert/snow camo. When you hit the woods there are shadows everywhere and it turns into a woodland camo
The ACU pattern is far more effective then given credit for, yes multicam blends in better in wooded areas but when it comes to Urban/Night Vision/Pure desert/Snow/ rocky areas and long range open field ACU works better. In afganistan Multicam is a way better choice. I bet ACU will rear it's ugly head once we hit an Urban war again or a modern army using NVG
@1lostinspace hey dude i saw your vids on ACU and how it works and vs MC and because of you im buying ACU as an all around thing seeing it works quite well in desert,snow,woods,urban :) i was gonna get MC but it only works for woods and a little desert :P
@blackHawkMW92 ACU is based off CADPAT and it was designed for the modern battlefeild because it was made so that the operator is not seen by NVG and related technology. And it disrupts the image of the operator from like 200m which is firefight range because the effective range of both M16 and C7 is 400m
If you don't mind me ask where you are stationed at. What would like to have on if you were in down town Baghdad? I would have to say ACU or Marpat desert in Afganistan I am with you Multicam all the way
@1lostinspace I was stationed at Fort Benning but I am in the National Guard now. I did walk the streets of Baghdad and I would have rather have had Multicam for it. The ACU pattern didnt work unless dirt and sand stuck to it because of our sweat. Not to mention whoever manufactures them didnt build them as sturdy as the old BDUs. The only compliment I've ever heard the ACU given is when Apache pilots told us that they had a hard time spotting us from the air.
@TACSIM1 Yeah so what? It's Multicam. Why would you guys say that ACU doesn't work? It works from a distance. It would have no use camouflaging in front of the enemy,
No one really understands how it works. I have done a million studies on it.
Up close in light it's an Urban camo. From far in light it's arid camo, in woodland shadows it's a woodland camo. And under NV it is very hard to see.
1:46 tactical shin guards. haha
bowANDerror69 1 day ago
the reason why australian dnt use green and gold in combat eny more cuz it doesnt blend it we use multicam now so why do ur standard american troops use the worst camo today when in the past u guys had desert cam which worked pretty good
JJO117 3 weeks ago
I've seen those new A-TACs and im impressed (A-TAC & A-TAC FG). They are some of the uniform patterns being tested to for the replacement of the UCP. I don't know why the Army didn't just do that the Marines did and keep the 2 pattern system (like every other modern fighting force)
BigChiefMike 1 month ago
Loose the spook music !
DFD737 1 month ago
maybe acu works on the rocks but it doesnt work in forest
greathistorian2 1 month ago
The ACU doesn't only suck because of the camo pattern. The material sucks, too. It's a compromise between winter and summer weight. For forest environments, I'd use a MARPAT uniform. For the desert, depending where I am, I'd either use my six-color desert BDU or my DCU. The BDU is WAY more comfortable than the ACU.
WASPfreak 1 month ago
multicam is way better, also the new upcoming camo called fear camo works great.
quinn801 1 month ago
1:51 is MultiCam..? Lol
TacticalAlignment 1 month ago
I works on certain environments.
IndiaEight5 1 month ago
ACUs dont work in the woods...
ryan0157 1 month ago
PRAISE MULTICAM :)
neoplanta1 2 months ago
It cant just be me but ACU might just be the worst camo pattern I've ever seen to me it makes them stand out more. Marine digital marpat with the dark brown blends in great but Army Acu's to me it might as well be blaze orange.
TheLastMag 2 months ago
I like at 0:43 the soldiers knee pad are at his ankles. That is so true!
revanyo 2 months ago
I really do like the look of the ACU's but, in green vegetation it does stick out like a sore thumb. In the desert it blends fairly well but I do agree it works better when dirty. Overall it is a nice uniform, much better than the old desert camouflage from the first gulf war. If the ACU's were slightly darker then I feel they would blend better. The Multicam is not bad for area's with vegetation.
unknownsld03 2 months ago
The ACU works when it's washed a few times and dirtied up which if you are combat soldier should be no problem. The only thing is the velcro sucks get rid of all velcro and it should be fine. Also the fact the every branch has their own uniform was the stupidest idea ever
superchicano 2 months ago
it perform very good in mountains and urban places, but darker environments, like forests, is it main weakness. Same thing but at a much less degree with multicam.
hiush1 2 months ago
this shit works in the mountains or on the moon
thugattic72 2 months ago
wat song is this?
BakAEmpTYSoUL 3 months ago
nice video, but pretty sure thats multicam at 1:50
TacOpsAirsoft 3 months ago in playlist Liked videos
0:38 a perfect example of how well the pattern is. Stop whining the Army knows best.
Maximalnoob 3 months ago
It only works in Urban And Snow (I think in the snow)
SuburbanShinobi8000 3 months ago
it seems to work around rock and gravel backgrounds
laladoodieincarnate 3 months ago
acu is more for urban warfare were theres lots of concrete buildings, instead of mud buildings and stuff
DaddyLongLegs44 3 months ago
ACU works, Multicam works BETTER!! end of story.
Mrjeepcherokee1 3 months ago 2
Army National Guard came to my school wearing ACU. It looks epik
archiaskcommando 3 months ago
hmm... what's the point of proving it works when the army has decided to change to multicam?? ::)
jaredlee283 3 months ago
u souljaz r silly. them towelliz are gonna be looking for army guys. Quote Peter Griffin in clown suit. .LOL
stefanlilly 3 months ago
Reporter: what do you feel when you shoot a talaiban soilder? Us Army sniper: I dunno...... recoil?
theunknownbuilders 3 months ago
I am thinking about getting multicam any others agree it's worth getting?
maltacross1987 3 months ago
Multicam is so much better in so many more environments..
MetalViper85 3 months ago
well A-tacs is just a concept. it's just that the only one that's out right now is the desert. forest green A-tacs is coming in a week. after that...who know?
razorspoon 4 months ago
If ATACS was invented before the iraq war.... less casualties will be made and I think they will be almost invisible!
BobBlobOfFancyPants 4 months ago
It works in rocky terrains pretty well =) Maybe not so much in jungles lol
guitarhamster102 4 months ago
ACU, were meant to be used for rough and mountain terrains and environment. As someone already commented, ACU were worn incase the insurgents are using NV (night-vision). ACU were also used as base uniform to let people in iraq know these are US soldiers and not terrorists. Also Muti-cam is most likely to be better ACU since, MC are blended with 3 or more colors.
MvsicStvdio 4 months ago
I see a video proving that it does not work most of the time. It also glows in the moonlight. Multicam is much better. We need to go back to having two different camos and maybe a third for places like A-stan were terrain varies in the same region.
MAOfights 4 months ago 22
@MAOfights it doesnt glow
brandonch25 2 months ago
@brandonch25 It comes close enough to glowing. When establishing a PB, we noticed we could see each Soldier due to the moon reflecting. They seriously looked like grey blobs due to the way the moonlight relflected. We had everyone put on their wet-weather gear(which was still woodland) and suddenly, they were nowhere near as visible. Seriously....these things reflected a lot more light than practical.
MAOfights 2 months ago
ACU is meant to be IR so you can't see in through Night-Vision. It's also grey for a reason. It easily gets dirtied from the terrain around it, so it blends in with what it is around...
airsoft3321 4 months ago
ACU only works when it is dirtied up.
kingtaythe2 4 months ago 36
@kingtaythe2 Exactly. It also only works in rocky and urban terrains. Not jungle terrains, Not Forrest terrains, Not dessert terrains and not in arctic terrains.
IdidRaysMother 4 months ago
@kingtaythe2 point being? shit gets dirtied up ALL the time in the field.
milkwetcookies 2 months ago
UCP works awesome....which is why the Army has started looking for its replacement and why Multicam is being issued for A-stan.
MrSGL21 4 months ago 2
ACU really does work most of the time. You have to be more than like 5 feet away for you to blend in. It's these army photos where they take pictures of them from 2 feet away make ACU look like crap.
MrGlowingGuy 4 months ago
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There is no perfect camouflage pattern for every situation and there never will be. Photos and videos trying to prove this are futile. Camouflage developement is based on the effects on a object, color and patern at varying distances and the visible light spectrum. Until a chameleon effect type of camouflage is developed these types of debates are more of a popularity contest.
thebigphilshow 4 months ago
stupid music
LongboardCali 4 months ago
ACU doesn't blend into anything besides gravel. It's meant to play with the mind's senses so not to be eye catching. It kinda works in this respect but not nearly well enough to salvage the pattern. Everyone I know in the Army wants to go over to Multicam. I hope the brass get the message.
KrazyKommieKiller 4 months ago 2
I have a couple of things in UCP. I haven't done any testing on it in the field. But it looks to me like UCP wouldn't be that effective. Multicam would probably work better. The other downside to UCP is that it's the pattern used by the Army. I don't want people to think I am in the army when I am not. My pack is woodland with 2 UCP sustainment pouches on it. I regularly wear digital woodland pants. But even with my deliberately mismatched camo pasterns some people still think I am military.
purplemutantas 4 months ago
1:50 I'm pretty sure thats Multicam and not UCP
TriggerHappyNoob 4 months ago
acu only works when its so dirty crazy dirty.
JAEZAI1 5 months ago
ACU works in the rocks and urban environments. it works well in the middle east but not in the woodlands. i like it somewhat but the Army should have a woodland camo too if they want that stoney of a color. so glad they got the new MULTICAM!
snowboardersrule 5 months ago
the only one that blended whit the place was the uniform dirty by the sand
airsoftmorelia 5 months ago
The only one it even REMOTELY works in is the 8th picture.
SmokeyAirsoft24 5 months ago
it kinda stains to the enviorment lol
MRwwiivids 5 months ago
U.S. Army and Navy and Airforce is run by liberal retard fags.
SEMPER FI!!!
PrinceChaloner 5 months ago
hey man the acu works well after you beat the shit out of it and it starts to fade but i mean like you have to beat the shit out of it multicam is the game now
speeder741 5 months ago
I personally think muticam has more to offer and does a little bit of a better job. If our special forces prefer multicam I think that say's a lot.
SJagMP 5 months ago
ACU works as a nonfriendly fire uniform. no more "oh man i almost shot you!" its all "oh man i totally saw you from a mile away , thank god you werent wearing multicam, or else i wouldnt see you"
64CSAR 5 months ago
1:52 thats MultiCam. FAIL picture
DreisSniper 6 months ago
ACU does not work in Iraq and especially in Afghanistan, Afghan is desert and trees, after 1 mile of rucking you can bet you'll find yourself near bushes, or shrubs. ACU makes you stick out like a boner in a speedo. The only time ACU actually works is if it gets muddy or dirty, but that's because the particles from the dirt and debris stick to the Uniform itself. Multicam is no doubt the best in Afghanistan, and UCP-Delta is far better in Iraq. UCP-Delta blends with the surroundings.
SaiVihtooMyint 6 months ago
@SaiVihtooMyint and UCP-Delta uses the same principles as ACU using the light to break up the human outline. ACU really only works if theres little to no light. The reason they chose gray is because after a few "extensive" testing, they found out Gray was less appealing to the eye instead of black, green, or tan. Which is true, but not when there's green all around you and your gray. But I love the idea of the blocks instead of blotches in MultiCam because its been proven blocks work better.
SaiVihtooMyint 6 months ago
Thank god for multicam.
Dylemus 6 months ago
song sucks!!!
rafyraf100 6 months ago
The army knows what their doing with camo that shit attracts all the ladies where marpat is like fucking women repelent.
bolshevik117 6 months ago
no see the gray is the rocky,mountains, and urban areas
the dark greenish is for the woods and the dark nigth
the tan is for the desert and in the snow and in very ligth enviorment
thats why they choose it
SniperKillerS2010 6 months ago
well i think it works if your enemies are far distanced. and works cool in urban but they're getting multicam now
TheJohn570 6 months ago
The Army is already moving over to Multicam. Shut your faces.
MRSAnary 6 months ago
MultiCam. Thats where its at baby.
Maverick12741 6 months ago
keep drinking the kool-aid, buddy...
lancebaker155 6 months ago
I think ACU works good after you rolll around in the dirt. But thats just me
20GATE91 6 months ago
i don't think acu's are good at all i mean the look cool but not really funtional out in the field there just like navy's digital looks sick but not affective
xSwaggaxVersace 6 months ago
@Bobert1016 Besides.. it's about the guys staying alive. i know there is a certain amount pride with the marines .. but hey they shared the same design for years anyways right ? I think Marpat would keep more guys alive that's all.. it's just a name. Switch the design slightly and Call it Armpat. lol
chubbz187 6 months ago
@Bobert1016 Haha.. who's the stupid one ?
chubbz187 6 months ago
@Bobert1016 Not sure what that means ? I am well aware of the anagram Mar pat. Our's is called Cad pat. we invented it that is what I am saying. the Mar pat is based on the CAD PAT design. Check it out yourself if you don't believe me.. Hey the documentation doesn't lie. I like both the CadPat and the Marpat Designs. So what is it that you are saying anyways because I am confused.. and what is a derp ?
chubbz187 6 months ago
what was wrong with 3 color desert?
lalew2 7 months ago
That's wierd I never saw anyone ;)
DrWatson371 7 months ago
it does work cause i seen many taliban videos of them ambushing american soldiers and i couldnt even see them! there were right there!
cptromero5595 7 months ago
So where's the proof acu works ? it really doesn't work.. even in a sand environment.. dumb move by the army.. they should have went with mar-pat.
chubbz187 7 months ago 10
@chubbz187 You wouldn't want to have back lash from the Marines would you? I think General James Amos would be pissed off with civilians mistaking soldiers from Marines. :P ACU and MARPAT both exist to have people tell the difference between a soldier and a Marine.
PlaidShirtsAreAwesom 7 months ago 3
@PlaidShirtsAreAwesom why not they been mistaking marines for Canadian soldiers for years. we invented the digital pattern that the marines and us army adopted . except ours is called cad pat and proven to be the best of any design. not bragging just saying. our woodland pattern is the best in the world. look it up sometime. it's pretty cool.
chubbz187 7 months ago
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chubbz187 6 months ago
@PlaidShirtsAreAwesom Sorry I didn't read your post well.. Haha.. your right. The Marines are Group of monsters and our guys love em. our Army are the marines of Canada and we love those cats.
chubbz187 6 months ago
@chubbz187 lol ay i heard canada gonna get der own Royal Canadian Marine Commandos
xSwaggaxVersace 6 months ago
@xSwaggaxVersace We have em now they are CALLED JTF2 .. Joint task force two. Canada's equivalent to delta force or the navy seals.
chubbz187 6 months ago 2
@PlaidShirtsAreAwesom Well they certainly can tell the difference.. haha the marines Arid design rocks. you can't see those fella's coming that is certain.
chubbz187 6 months ago
@PlaidShirtsAreAwesom I really could not give a shit, they are both soldiers. It would be better to unify them with the same uniform, one that actually works.
DuhyatheSecond 6 months ago
@DuhyatheSecond Tell that to the General. Not me.
PlaidShirtsAreAwesom 6 months ago
@DuhyatheSecond Fuck no were not both soldiers.Call a Marine a soldier and be prepared to be corrected.I earned my fucking title as Marine not soldier,so never say their both soldiers.
matthew562 6 months ago
@matthew562 You are both by the definition of the word a soldier. I don't understand you Americans and your sense of entitlement.
DuhyatheSecond 6 months ago
@DuhyatheSecond Yea, no shit,but dont ever call a U.S Marine a fuckin soldier cause soldiers are for the U.S Army,not the USMC.
matthew562 6 months ago
@matthew562 "A soldier is a member of the land component of national armed forces." Marines are soldiers.
DuhyatheSecond 6 months ago
@DuhyatheSecond I know that but i am saying dont ever call a Marine a soldier because we earned our title as Marines,not soldiers.
matthew562 6 months ago
@matthew562 I'll keep that in mind if i ever run into one somehow.
DuhyatheSecond 6 months ago
@matthew562 U call it a title?Brain wash fuck u are! just like the rest. "We earned the title" u think Army personnel dont earn shit? Do u even know the word Marines ? Marines is part of the squid family( Navy) that's it,u are nothing special bitch, unless u are part of special group in the military,does'nt matter what branch it is.Every branch has "special" forces, stop glorifying your self just bcz u wear the pretty uniform u think u all are better.Marines r more brain wash thn the rest,fact!
totoynani143 5 months ago
@totoynani143 Wtf!? It is a title you fuck.i call army personel soldiers because that is the title they earned and Marines are Marines because they earned that title as well and that goes the same for all the branches. It is a title every member every servicemember has earned and it will disrespect to call them something theyre not. i am never said i was special, just stating the importance of being called by the title i have earned you fuck. Get a fucking life.
matthew562 5 months ago
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@totoynani143 Wtf!? It is a title you fuck.i call army personel soldiers because that is the title they earned and Marines are Marines because they earned that title as well and that goes the same for all the branches. It is a title every member every servicemember has earned and it will disrespect to call them something theyre not. i am never said i was special, just stating the importance of being called by the title i have earned you fuck. Get a fucking life.
matthew562 5 months ago
@matthew562
Technically I can call you a sailor. Marines are not its own branch, your a subsidiary of the Navy. ;)
gtsdohcvvtli 4 months ago
@gtsdohcvvtli You troll.gtfo here
matthew562 4 months ago
@matthew562
Woah woah. You take that anger out on some insurgents. I ain't trolling. Did I call u 'soldier'. No....so quit getting ur dog tags in a bind.
gtsdohcvvtli 4 months ago
@gtsdohcvvtli no but you bring shit up thats done with already.Im not a Soldier or a Sailor
matthew562 4 months ago
@gtsdohcvvtli Marines are not sailors, clown.
smockdoiley 4 months ago
@smockdoiley in a way they are but still i never heard anyone calling them sailors
codfourmontage 4 months ago
@codfourmontage Uh, no, they aren't, and you're advised to never call one a sailor. Marines are in no way, shape, or form a sailor. Just drop it.
smockdoiley 4 months ago
@smockdoiley yes they are the marines plays the role of about every branch of the military. and i know a marine he says sailors as well
codfourmontage 4 months ago
@DuhyatheSecond It doesn't work that way..The way I see it they wear it for the mission, You wouldn't see a seal running around in this because that would be stupid.
xXfreakbotXx 6 months ago
@DuhyatheSecond call a Marine a soldier. I dare you. Enough said.
boocolor 6 months ago
@boocolor Marines don't go to Canada.
DuhyatheSecond 6 months ago
@DuhyatheSecond You're point is very valid as I am enlisting in the Marine Corps. I finish my paperwork in Feb. But here's the thing, the Army is starting to scrap ACU and re-issue as much Multicam as they can. I believe both of you are right. Marines should be signified, but you also don't want soldiers marked as targets. The Army issued Multicam to their SF first, now it's going to all. ACU is garbage, I own a set I got from a friend to Airsoft with and I can't blend in really anywhere.
bandbairsoft857 5 months ago
@bandbairsoft857 I don't live in mountains so i use cadpat or marpat for camo when playing airsoft, the only place ACU could possibly work is rocky terrain like afghanistan.
DuhyatheSecond 5 months ago
@PlaidShirtsAreAwesom They didn't have much problem with that in the 80's, it would save money and more importantly lives
themanwich212 6 months ago
@PlaidShirtsAreAwesom well, its pointless to argue now, combat soldiers are issued multicam, which makes marpat look like its a bright orange flag.
LinkedMooMan117117 4 months ago
@chubbz187 The army would probably use a similar pattern but not exactly MARPAT... and the army generals are too proud to admit that the ACU pattern sucks and MARPAT works and rather than making a slightly different version of the same pattern for the Army they will spend tones of money to make their own pattern
BigChiefMike 6 months ago
@chubbz187 no disrespect to u bud but plaidshirts madde a point because thats one of the reasons all the branches made there own camos was bcause of confusion
TheNASCARknowitall 5 months ago
@TheNASCARknowitall i agree
chubbz187 5 months ago
@chubbz187 also , here is a little experiment for you, get your acu out and put them on and hide. then let someone with amber shooting glasses look for you. You will practically glow.
MrOakcock 4 months ago
@MrOakcock I dont own any it sucks, I use marpat and cadpat. it glows without the scope if you ask me.
chubbz187 4 months ago
ACU blows dude. The ONLY way we are able to make it work is if we roll around in the sand and mud to stain it then wash, then stain it again. As 1:55 shows, brand new ACU is terrible and blends in with nothing, not even gravel.......
deadlyapollo 7 months ago
@deadlyapollo I hear ya dude it is bad.. I am not sure why they never went wit hte multi cam right from the get go.. that's some fine kit.
chubbz187 6 months ago
im getting a pair of acu pants just waiting for shipping i like the american camos we should do a swap you guys buy our auscam
rolficus 8 months ago
See the thing is the ACU works from a distance. And lets face it usually your between 100-400 metres thats a fair distance. Anything closer than that i reckon you would be seen whatever camo you wore
Fredddie100 8 months ago
Oh Sure acu works great when its next to a grey bush or somthin like that.
Clonecommander9241 8 months ago
Ok, computer pattern? WTF!
DragonSkin342 9 months ago
I can't exactly remember when the Formal Regulation was changed. But, when I was still in service we used the similar trad. Marines Desert. From what I was told ACU blends in well with rocky and white grey sandy climates. The Box Pixels intercept the mind and confuse their target--supposively. Turns out it actually works nicely I wish we had that back in my days we lost quite a bit of people back in the 173rd.
Orlandaeu 9 months ago
Good god. That stuff might work with kids that dont know what their talking about. ACU are the worst camo the US Army has ever fielded. The only reason they would fit in is because you rolled around in the dirt. Which I have dont more than once, so I wouldnt be a 6 foot sniper target.
opforrob 9 months ago
If you have not been in the US Army and not been overseas and been in a war with the ACU's then you have no place to say that they are crap or that they do not work, because the ACU Uniform is actually very much a great camo, when you are out the tan/grey blends in with whats around you and the enemies combatant does not see you when you are over a100 yards away. Again if you are not in the US Army or never were then you have no right saying things about it
SargeMW 9 months ago
ACU pattern is garbage. You may as well wear a giant bulls eye.
uscavwood19d 9 months ago
At 1:50 the man is wearing multicam
ClassicCity17 10 months ago
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FAIL, they are trying to make you see that the pattern blends but it is CLEARLY garbage. I like the pic especially at 1:01 ... What are those glowing blue thingies out there? oh theyre US Army Soldiers. From a Sniper's perspective originally i though ACU was genious because when i am trying to aquire targets, if i saw someone wearing that i wouldn't think for 1 second that they were a combatant. Theres no way any one would SERIOUSLY try to fight wearing this crap... not so much!
scottiep2524 10 months ago
FAIL, they are trying to make you see that the pattern blends but it is CLEARLY garbage. I like the pic especially at 1:01 ... What are those glowing blue thingies out there? oh theyre US Army Soldiers. From a Sniper's perspective originally i though ACU was genious because when i am trying to aquire targets, if i saw someone wearing that i wouldn't think for 1 second that they were a combatant. Theres no way any one would SERIOUSLY try to fight wearing this crap... not so much!
scottiep2524 10 months ago
I really like the Canadian CADPAT and USMC MARPAT. ACU Looks cool but i don;t think it's really effective. ACU may work in some parts of the world but not in the woods!
PcGamerPaul 10 months ago
OK the ACU does work in APPROPRIATE tactical environments. But if that's the case it SHOULDN'T be classified as a UNIVERSAL camouflage pattern. That's why Multicam is way BETTER than ACU. It is universal and I haven't seen an environment that it doesn't work in yet.
waterboy330 10 months ago
lol notice how ACUs work only when really dirty! just ask a grunt multicam is 10 times better it saves lives if we can see the enemy first =) and what good is a dead soldier?
kylegosrawr 10 months ago
yet the army complains about the acu yet it looks pretty good in desert
codyt014 10 months ago
1:55=FAIL
The ACU is good for urban environments or rocky areas. That is it.
navyman8903 11 months ago 8
@navyman8903 I think the Air Force's uniforms work better.
PlaidShirtsAreAwesom 11 months ago
@PlaidShirtsAreAwesom They really dont. They are the same colors, just different pattern. If you want good uniforms, stick with multicam, marine digital woodland/desert, Navy type II and type III, and others along those lines. I can't wait to get the navy type III when it comes out for us.
navyman8903 11 months ago
@PlaidShirtsAreAwesom There's are the same colors but just in tiger stripe digital pattern..
MilitaryBrothers 11 months ago
@MilitaryBrothers In fact, it doesn't. The ACU have 3 colors, the ABU have 4. The 4th is darker. The overall usage of colors on the ABU is darker too. This make the ABU more useful on forest than the ACU.
Winters11 10 months ago
@PlaidShirtsAreAwesom I've seen abu and acu standing side by side same exact thing just in tiger stripe its pretty trippy
nickalarz 5 months ago
@navyman8903 its actually decent in the desert and some moderate vegatation areas of an arid environment, oh and the real fail is 2:13 with the lime green belt, non regulation much?
maxrocks19 8 months ago
@maxrocks19 The guy is making a barbacue, does it look like he needs to be fully camouflaged in those conditions?
WilliamMarshall01 8 months ago
@WilliamMarshall01 well than he shouldn't be wearing pants either, cause everyone knows that pants are non regulation items at a BBQ
maxrocks19 8 months ago
@navyman8903 0:15 = Counter-fail
hippz420 6 months ago
@navyman8903 And desert, and snow, and dry-grass areas.
DreisSniper 6 months ago
It looks alright in these photos, but from the looks of the UCP pattern, you'd think we were waging war in a sage garden.
spawnofwheezedog 11 months ago
ACU does work, but Multicam works better.
yenhan705eh77 11 months ago
It works in the woods in desert , snow,urban,rookie and NIR. People need to look at it at both sides of the sun, if you look at camo in a 360 view you will find that most black out on one side! meaning they work 50% of the time, ACU uses the shadow line as woodland camo and the other side as an Urban/desert/snow camo. When you hit the woods there are shadows everywhere and it turns into a woodland camo
1lostinspace 1 year ago
The ACU pattern is far more effective then given credit for, yes multicam blends in better in wooded areas but when it comes to Urban/Night Vision/Pure desert/Snow/ rocky areas and long range open field ACU works better. In afganistan Multicam is a way better choice. I bet ACU will rear it's ugly head once we hit an Urban war again or a modern army using NVG
1lostinspace 1 year ago
@1lostinspace hey dude i saw your vids on ACU and how it works and vs MC and because of you im buying ACU as an all around thing seeing it works quite well in desert,snow,woods,urban :) i was gonna get MC but it only works for woods and a little desert :P
0mgwtfbbq21 11 months ago
@0mgwtfbbq21
If you are going to be in just nature I would still go with MC.
1lostinspace 11 months ago
ACU is only good for afghanistan
blackHawkMW92 1 year ago
@blackHawkMW92 Yup. Also for China, and Somalia too!
PlaidShirtsAreAwesom 1 year ago 2
@PlaidShirtsAreAwesom type 99 is the best in china but you would match the enemy.
Freepepsi42 1 year ago
@blackHawkMW92 ACU is based off CADPAT and it was designed for the modern battlefeild because it was made so that the operator is not seen by NVG and related technology. And it disrupts the image of the operator from like 200m which is firefight range because the effective range of both M16 and C7 is 400m
Freepepsi42 1 year ago
@Freepepsi42 ok, thank you canada! :)
blackHawkMW92 1 year ago
@blackHawkMW92 obiously, hence the "war in Iraq"
M1911DeViLDoG 9 months ago
@blackHawkMW92 multicam is better in Afghanistan
TheAstros5 6 months ago
The most important thing about camouflage is the color of the dirt and dust that covers you 5 minutes after you hit the boonies.
DonMeaker 1 year ago
You will find a grand total of 5 soldiers who like this shitty ass camo, I'm an infantryman and I hate this pattern. We want multicam now.
zegermandude 1 year ago
@zegermandude
If you don't mind me ask where you are stationed at. What would like to have on if you were in down town Baghdad? I would have to say ACU or Marpat desert in Afganistan I am with you Multicam all the way
1lostinspace 1 year ago
@1lostinspace I was stationed at Fort Benning but I am in the National Guard now. I did walk the streets of Baghdad and I would have rather have had Multicam for it. The ACU pattern didnt work unless dirt and sand stuck to it because of our sweat. Not to mention whoever manufactures them didnt build them as sturdy as the old BDUs. The only compliment I've ever heard the ACU given is when Apache pilots told us that they had a hard time spotting us from the air.
zegermandude 1 year ago
Lol 1:50
TACSIM1 1 year ago
@TACSIM1 Yeah so what? It's Multicam. Why would you guys say that ACU doesn't work? It works from a distance. It would have no use camouflaging in front of the enemy,
PlaidShirtsAreAwesom 1 year ago 4
@PlaidShirtsAreAwesom , all I basically said was hey it's multicam. Good photos by the way. :)
TACSIM1 1 year ago
No one really understands how it works. I have done a million studies on it.
Up close in light it's an Urban camo. From far in light it's arid camo, in woodland shadows it's a woodland camo. And under NV it is very hard to see.
1lostinspace 1 year ago
@1lostinspace Digital camo are usually IR Treated
CADPAT is IR treated
i dont know about ACU or MARPAT
PcGamerPaul 1 year ago
@PcGamerPaul
ACU was made for NIR
1lostinspace 1 year ago