Chicago 16 What You're Missing Live In Concert 1982

[cetera06]

@actormanic My friend, surprise me what you wrote about the Foster's intentions to turn down the horns section...maybe you made a mistake...because the fact is that Foster never took off the horns!, he clearified them with the new (on those years) technology!...check out 16 and 17 albums!...the fact is that 19 and 21 albums indeed tried to cut horns!!...just to make that clear...Best regards!

[WrestlingHeretic]

@actormanic

When I listen to the first seven albums, I hear a band with great craft. When I listen to albums 16-21, I hear a band with great craft. I've always loved Chicago through all its incarnations. Not every blessed thing they've done, but people grow and change, and I've grown and changed along with them. Not everything they did on the first seven albums was pure gold either. If I never have to listen to Free Form Buzzsaw, I mean, Guitar, again, it'll be too soon.

[fayette202]

@actormanic According to Seraphine's book, Guercio wasn't looking out for the band's best interests—while he was getting rich and building an elaborate recording studio in Colorado, some of the band were living paycheck to paycheck. I agree with you, the Diane Warren was a huge mistake - those silly lyrics were just plain amateurish. Foster did something right, however - without him Chicago would have been done by 1978. With him, he extended their relevance another six years.

[cetera06]

@fayette202 Ok, ok...I've been abscent for months and now I'd like to say something....The greatest modern time for the band was 1982 when thanks to Champlin they met Foster...no one can deny that this canadian shake Chicago's ass and took them in to the right path...

[cetera06]

@cetera06 ...it is very important to give credits to the ones whose deserve them!...first of all..if it wasn´t for Champlin, Foster would never approach to the band!!!....the band theirselves admit that!....after their management decided that Chas Sanford and Ron Nevison would be in charge of their material I was scared...And if you dont believe it..please ask Walt Parazaider!..just the founder of the big thing..

[fayette202]

@cetera06 My best info says that Seraphine brought in Foster, not Champlin. Not sure what your source is, but according to Seraphine's book, they let Laudir go to make room for Champlin. Before Champlin had joined the group, Danny had wanted to use Foster on Chicago 14 but the band was against it. But by 16 they agreed it would be a good idea.

[cetera06]

@fayette202 @fayette202 Well my friend, in part that must be true, let me explain... the fact is that Bill Champlin suggested to Danny Seraphine that David Foster might be a good choice as a producer for Chicago at that time...now, if Seraphine told the Band that Foster could be a good choice...well...the protocol and your affirmation is good...But again...if Champlin, at that time, would never mentioned about David Foster to Seraphine...

[fayette202]

@cetera06 I'm just quoting from Seraphine's book, which is, of course, his version of events. I wasn't there. I must admit my bias. Champlin initially made some wonderful contributions, but later he increasing seemed to be compensating for something. I agree with Seraphines's sentiments to Bill, "I'll stop over playing when you stop oversinging." And despite the fact that Seraphine was instrumental in bring Champlin into the group, Bill returned the favor by voting to fire Danny.

[pandanugget24]

Thx for posting these rare live Chicago bootlegs.

[WrestlingHeretic]

It's fascinating to hear this and "Follow Me" both performed without the studio wizardry.  It's almost answers the question, "what would this have sounded like played by the *old* James William Guercio Chicago versus the *new* David Foster Chicago?"

Although the "string" keyboard intro is a little sad.

Thanks so much for posting this!

[pookers2000]

This is my favorite album from top to bottom. This song sets the tone for the rest of the album. Great move by the band to bring in Champlin and Foster. Wish they would all collaborate on one last album and ride off into the sunset.

[Sharkim66]

@pookers2000 - Well said pookers! Foster and Champlin added so much taste to Chicago. It was awesome when i first put that needle on the 16 record for the very first time. What Youre Missing is so fucking good.

[fayette202]

Poor recording mix - but a good performance! Thanks for posting, Cetera06! Do you have any more from 16?

[cetera06]

@fayette202 Thanks my friend, Have no more from 16, but i´ll try to find some, best regards and thanks for view my vids!

[rockinjeffrey]

Awesome