Mcguff claims it's a full body workout. So presumably he's saying the leg press is enough for functional strength in the posterior chain? I find it hard to believe you're going to do much for your glutes, hamstrings or lower back with that... has he addressed this?
@LuqmanNaq The only issue with HIIT such as the Tabata-protocol is that the amount of force that you are subjected to is so much higher than from systems like e.g. super-slow that you are extremely more prone to damaging yourself. It is never stated that Interval-training isn't good, quite clearly it is better than steady-state. The only beef, as it were, lies in the acute risk of damage. While slow work-out reduces the risk, while still subjecting your muscle to the same amount of stimuli.
It sounds good but trainers who train pro fighters like Ross Enamit and Joel Jamieson would disagree from experience that intervals (including Tabata) would adequately prepare fighters for the duration of a full fight. They recommend a mixture of steady state aerobics and intervals... but then again your just talking about general fitness for the public.
You're right...training for overall health and fitness is overall a lot different than training for a set athletic event... for example, 12 x 3 minute rounds (or whatever round length in boxing). In the case of a boxing match, one might find advantages in training for 3 minute bursts, 12 times in a row... otherwise, training in 12 x 3 minute bursts will not really prepare you for anything.
Just to clarify the trainers include steady state aerobics without intervals for conditioning. According to people who advocate training with the Tabata protocol as the most efficient way to get enough cardio to last for an hour... according to those guys it simply isn't possible, and they train pro-fighters for a living. Having enough aerobic and muscular endurance to last a full boxing match without gassing means you are in phenomenol shape, not only for boxing but for life. Try it sometime.
good comment but yeah different activities do require various ways of training. Yeah, for beginers this is pretty good shit. I don't think most office guys can handle the training of a pro fighter lol especially when your starting out.
Mcguff claims it's a full body workout. So presumably he's saying the leg press is enough for functional strength in the posterior chain? I find it hard to believe you're going to do much for your glutes, hamstrings or lower back with that... has he addressed this?
RichBrIs 1 year ago
@LuqmanNaq The only issue with HIIT such as the Tabata-protocol is that the amount of force that you are subjected to is so much higher than from systems like e.g. super-slow that you are extremely more prone to damaging yourself. It is never stated that Interval-training isn't good, quite clearly it is better than steady-state. The only beef, as it were, lies in the acute risk of damage. While slow work-out reduces the risk, while still subjecting your muscle to the same amount of stimuli.
PopeZenMayas 1 year ago
whhat the hells a mitochondria? Too much science jargon for the lay person!
anab0lic 1 year ago
It sounds good but trainers who train pro fighters like Ross Enamit and Joel Jamieson would disagree from experience that intervals (including Tabata) would adequately prepare fighters for the duration of a full fight. They recommend a mixture of steady state aerobics and intervals... but then again your just talking about general fitness for the public.
LuqmanNaq 2 years ago
You're right...training for overall health and fitness is overall a lot different than training for a set athletic event... for example, 12 x 3 minute rounds (or whatever round length in boxing). In the case of a boxing match, one might find advantages in training for 3 minute bursts, 12 times in a row... otherwise, training in 12 x 3 minute bursts will not really prepare you for anything.
reefpirate 2 years ago
Just to clarify the trainers include steady state aerobics without intervals for conditioning. According to people who advocate training with the Tabata protocol as the most efficient way to get enough cardio to last for an hour... according to those guys it simply isn't possible, and they train pro-fighters for a living. Having enough aerobic and muscular endurance to last a full boxing match without gassing means you are in phenomenol shape, not only for boxing but for life. Try it sometime.
LuqmanNaq 2 years ago
good comment but yeah different activities do require various ways of training. Yeah, for beginers this is pretty good shit. I don't think most office guys can handle the training of a pro fighter lol especially when your starting out.
youngfred116 2 years ago
Yeah I agree. Some HIT guys seem to think that slow weight training will alone prepare you for anything, I was just putting a counter view out there.
LuqmanNaq 2 years ago
Coach Conner highly recommends your training principles at the Pit Barbell Club.
Jpbonin 2 years ago