good lord, my z when it had only slight mods no where close to 480 whp wouldnt lose like that.. theres no way its at 480, and if it is... well someone please take that car away from that driver lol
They must be talking crank hp, which is a) what people refer to if their car is slow and b) irrelevant. Having said that, the Z looks like its making about 320rwhp and the gst probably 300whp and is probably lightened. Either way its embarrassing.
@JDMforever11 agreed... if they arent both random numbers... what i can tell.. the z is stock in the motor department..and the eclipse has 4oo hp haha.. the weight is not significantly different enough to cause this outcome..so the eclipse driver/fan who uploaded claims he took out a 500hp Z... NOT believable for a second...!
@mikes419SBGmember im sayin, i mean look on youtube, a z beat a 2010gt500 and a 05 viper, i think 05, i know this eclipse wouldnt beat the 500 nor the viper.
i think half of the race videos on youtube aren't accurate, because ur tellin me that the eclipse had a chance when the nissan had over 50 hp more.... c'mon
@jabba12000 Well, considering the Eclipse makes ~410whp on 17psi means that it's using a bigger turbo. Boost doesn't dictate how much power it makes overall. So there IS something adding up in this video. PSI does not = overall power. The lbs/min rate of the turbo + psi w/ the size of compressor wheel factors in for peak power, and powerband.
@jabba12000 Single turbo set ups better suited for high end power in my opinion. It seems that the Eclipse is running a bigger turbo which gives it that advantage from the turbo overheating and having power loss up top. Although the peak maybe smaller, top end could be better than what the Z's running. Powerband>Peak HP, aslong as it's pretty even peak wise. If it's 1000hp vs 300hp, screw powerband, lol.
I agree noway Eclipse with less whp and being a four can out run a 300tt with more whp.I'm only running 15psi on my 300zxtt and have never been pulled on like that and I raced some pretty heavy headers out there!
Seriously guys, if you don't know what you're talking about... just don't talk. The fact of the matter is both of these cars have GREAT engines when built properly. I have a 300zx with some serious mods and I dominate DSMs all day. On the other end of that, I've had plenty of DSMs both FWD and AWD built to the max and smoked plenty of 300zx TT's, 3000GT VR4's ect. ect. The point is it boils down to the build and the balls. If you're lacking in either, you're gonna get your ass handed to ya.
I love how you tried to estimate WHP... I've seen mechanical engineers estimate hp but throw the drive train in there and its anyones game, so please, just stop... and goooo to the fuckkkingg dyno. Cause right now your asking me to believe that a car that must deal with 7.4 lbs per WHP just pulled easily on a car that only has to deal with 7.08 lbs per WHP (the 300zx). My guess is you are far off in your estimations or the Z's driver just can't drive... But i'll stick with my former guess..
I love how you tried to estimate WHP... I've seen mechanical engineers estimate hp but throw the drive train in there and its anyones game, so please, just stop... and goooo to the fuckkkingg dyno. Cause right now your asking me to believe that a car that must deal with 7.4 lbs per WHP just pulled easily on a car that only has to deal with 7.08 1lbs per WHP (the 300zx). My guess is you are far off in your estimations or the Z's driver just can't drive... But i'll stick with my former guess..
estimated hp? pfff... who talks like that?? plus the actually difference between the two is probably weight related more than power, 70hp difference is barely noticeable on the street, a better driver would make more of a difference.
just because a car has more horsepower doesnt mean its faster. you ever heard of a power to weight ratio? not only that but there are other things to consider such as gearing and powerbands and aerodynamics.
is not the same engine, eclipse have and iron block nd evos have aluminun this make alot of diferents when they're tuned up..they have the same serial but that doesnt make it the same engine
@janc318 i know u typed this a year ago but where did u hear or read this, its because of the evo is why the eclipse exist the 4g63t engine regardless of it being in the evo or eclipse and many other Mitsubishi cars it has always been a iron block aluminum head mitsu has never changed that tell me where is it written give me a website or something
good lord, my z when it had only slight mods no where close to 480 whp wouldnt lose like that.. theres no way its at 480, and if it is... well someone please take that car away from that driver lol
novakv3 6 months ago 4
i think it's 48 hp vs 41 hp
bcrombieboi 6 months ago
wow i wsa expecting DSM to lose or be close that Z needs a new driver asap :/
DSMeclipsegst 6 months ago 2
They must be talking crank hp, which is a) what people refer to if their car is slow and b) irrelevant. Having said that, the Z looks like its making about 320rwhp and the gst probably 300whp and is probably lightened. Either way its embarrassing.
snivesz32 8 months ago
honeslty fwd eclipse hell no that z cant be running 480
BTehrani93 9 months ago 2
both cars are sweat but i love mitsubishi go dsm
johnnye263 9 months ago
both are extreme over estimations. the ecclipse gsx stock runs 210, and the z runs 300 stock.
iHeartSar3s 10 months ago
im sorry, but that 300ZX isnt making ANYWHERE near 480RWHP to lose to an eclipse like that.
JDMforever11 10 months ago 3
@JDMforever11 agreed... if they arent both random numbers... what i can tell.. the z is stock in the motor department..and the eclipse has 4oo hp haha.. the weight is not significantly different enough to cause this outcome..so the eclipse driver/fan who uploaded claims he took out a 500hp Z... NOT believable for a second...!
mikes419SBGmember 8 months ago 2
@mikes419SBGmember im sayin, i mean look on youtube, a z beat a 2010gt500 and a 05 viper, i think 05, i know this eclipse wouldnt beat the 500 nor the viper.
TheSam67 6 months ago 3
if they pushing 480whp them im pushing like 600whp on my tercel lol
415carlitos 10 months ago 2
i think if it had 480hp it wouldve beaten that motorcycle or atleast kept up with it, just sayin
irishboxer92 10 months ago
The Mitsubishi is alot lighter but still it should have been closer the Z is probably makin 400-420
KevinTheVillian 11 months ago
Simply put that 300ZX isnt making anywhere near 480rwhp
R33GTR4U 11 months ago 4
i think half of the race videos on youtube aren't accurate, because ur tellin me that the eclipse had a chance when the nissan had over 50 hp more.... c'mon
KrackenDown 11 months ago
that bike in the first roll on ate both of your lunches.
joshuashipman100 1 year ago
The Z is much heavier, like several hundered lbs..... Weight to power ratio folks...
08turboSS 1 year ago
My Z runs on 16psi and takes down 17psi eclipses all day. There is something not adding up in this video.
jabba12000 1 year ago
@jabba12000 Well, considering the Eclipse makes ~410whp on 17psi means that it's using a bigger turbo. Boost doesn't dictate how much power it makes overall. So there IS something adding up in this video. PSI does not = overall power. The lbs/min rate of the turbo + psi w/ the size of compressor wheel factors in for peak power, and powerband.
JSlShow 1 year ago
@jabba12000 Single turbo set ups better suited for high end power in my opinion. It seems that the Eclipse is running a bigger turbo which gives it that advantage from the turbo overheating and having power loss up top. Although the peak maybe smaller, top end could be better than what the Z's running. Powerband>Peak HP, aslong as it's pretty even peak wise. If it's 1000hp vs 300hp, screw powerband, lol.
JSlShow 1 year ago
I agree noway Eclipse with less whp and being a four can out run a 300tt with more whp.I'm only running 15psi on my 300zxtt and have never been pulled on like that and I raced some pretty heavy headers out there!
Iceloder 1 year ago
Seriously guys, if you don't know what you're talking about... just don't talk. The fact of the matter is both of these cars have GREAT engines when built properly. I have a 300zx with some serious mods and I dominate DSMs all day. On the other end of that, I've had plenty of DSMs both FWD and AWD built to the max and smoked plenty of 300zx TT's, 3000GT VR4's ect. ect. The point is it boils down to the build and the balls. If you're lacking in either, you're gonna get your ass handed to ya.
brickyak87 1 year ago
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I love how you tried to estimate WHP... I've seen mechanical engineers estimate hp but throw the drive train in there and its anyones game, so please, just stop... and goooo to the fuckkkingg dyno. Cause right now your asking me to believe that a car that must deal with 7.4 lbs per WHP just pulled easily on a car that only has to deal with 7.08 lbs per WHP (the 300zx). My guess is you are far off in your estimations or the Z's driver just can't drive... But i'll stick with my former guess..
thejfactors 1 year ago
I love how you tried to estimate WHP... I've seen mechanical engineers estimate hp but throw the drive train in there and its anyones game, so please, just stop... and goooo to the fuckkkingg dyno. Cause right now your asking me to believe that a car that must deal with 7.4 lbs per WHP just pulled easily on a car that only has to deal with 7.08 1lbs per WHP (the 300zx). My guess is you are far off in your estimations or the Z's driver just can't drive... But i'll stick with my former guess..
thejfactors 1 year ago
the z has more like 380whp . . .that would make more sense
kloc8 1 year ago
I own one, running at 18psi. with lightweight everything on the crank excepthe the crank it self. I kill gs-t all day.
cocoloko28 1 year ago
I call bs take 150hp of both cars is more realistic.
DVcustomZ 1 year ago
I think there has been some overestimating in this video...
Cuisee 1 year ago 26
@Cuisee I agree
TTFAIRLADYZ32 1 year ago
estimated hp? pfff... who talks like that?? plus the actually difference between the two is probably weight related more than power, 70hp difference is barely noticeable on the street, a better driver would make more of a difference.
snivesz32 2 years ago
I hate Linkin Park so much, I wish they'd just stop playing music.
TheAButton 3 years ago
your numbers are not correct!
fairladyz32TT 3 years ago
it thosen make sence how a 480hp get owned by a 410hp it really dont matter if ur a bad driver the car will make it through...well he really sucks
janc318 3 years ago
it is the torque and pluse the eclipse is fwd not awd less transmission weight and faster on the long run
Turbo3Dsm 3 years ago
just because a car has more horsepower doesnt mean its faster. you ever heard of a power to weight ratio? not only that but there are other things to consider such as gearing and powerbands and aerodynamics.
72s30z 3 years ago
Z driver sucks
RAIMB 3 years ago 18
decent video, but the eclipse has no where near the potential
emoney20s 3 years ago
that car has a 4g63 engine. the same thing found in an evo. try looking up 1000hp evos.
72s30z 3 years ago
is not the same engine, eclipse have and iron block nd evos have aluminun this make alot of diferents when they're tuned up..they have the same serial but that doesnt make it the same engine
janc318 3 years ago
your not supposed to say anything they dont know that!
72s30z 3 years ago
uuppss sorry lol
janc318 3 years ago
@janc318 i know u typed this a year ago but where did u hear or read this, its because of the evo is why the eclipse exist the 4g63t engine regardless of it being in the evo or eclipse and many other Mitsubishi cars it has always been a iron block aluminum head mitsu has never changed that tell me where is it written give me a website or something
eclipse93gst 1 year ago
@72s30z and have 4wd too? ;) and have evo chasis too? ;) x2
DankoFury 1 year ago
From watching this video I'm completely sure about something...The 300ZX's driver sucks at driving.
robertodammert 3 years ago
i agree
blast831 3 years ago
Gs-T is FWD, do you think a AWD would be the same at the top end like like, or would it just be like that off the line?
catback01 4 years ago
the eclipse seems quicker but I doubt it could match the Z's top speed.
geordieliam 4 years ago
Both cars are realy nice!!!
What mods do you have on your Z ? I also own one so I wonder. You can go check out mine if you like in my videos.
carcrazyguy 4 years ago