and btw @maxidebian you don't get the concept of the game zerg wasn't meant to have REALLY powerful super units zerg is based off of the strategy the they are cheap and you can make lots of them. they are built off of the stratgy of massing units. If their units were as strong as say the terrans and the protoss THEY WOULD BE WAY OVERPOWERED. the races in starcraft are very different in their own ways that fact that blizzard can make a balance in that is amazing.
Terra & protoss players , STOP SAYING that roach is imba , because is not , what about psi storm , colossi , hunter seeker missile etc etc .
Zerg units must have some kind of counter for them , well roaches have it .
For example , protoss & terran have larger units (BattleCruiser / Thor & Carrier / Mothership ) while zergs currently only have Broodlords (small compared to the other razes massive units) and Ultralisk not as good as Colossi
Having units that can beat the roach does not mean that it isnt imba. It's a question of cost effectiveness. When people say the roach is Imba they aren't saying that it beats everything, they are saying that it is too good for the cost and the tech level.
In other words, you can mass an army of roaches while your opponent still has zealots or marines - and roaches beat both - so your opponent wont have a chance to get psi storm, hunter seeker etc etc...
uhm....sure...but then it's infestors that need a buff...or some other aspect of Zerg's tier 2. Although it's early days and perhaps people haven't learned to fully utilize infestors yet...
But still, you don't fix a tier 2 imbalance by creating a tier 1 imbalance...
you don't get the point a zerg player can get roaches really early in the game so early that they could roach-rush a base and since only heavier attacks are effective againist roaches they are OP in the beginning bc no other race has heavy attacks in the beginning
I think roaches should actually be called ultralings.
Also, anyone else think that roaches are kind of blurring the lines between protoss and zerg? Zerg is supposed to have dirt cheap, utter crap units, that they can mass up and own your face with, yet they have the roach. Its cheap(I think) and easy to mass, but not utter crap. In fact, unless you have detectors, being able to spike roaches seems like the only way to kill them when they have burrow, and are being properly microed.
weird - part 2 processed before part 1. in fact i think it pretty much processed instantaneously - p1 is still blurry. you uploaded p2 after p1 right?
lol@hoopz. how noob.. first mistake is building a 2nd hatchery in base when he had 9roaches for defence ==
chazstahs 1 year ago
"changeling would be taking out as OverSky hasn't any marines right now" ...
Cptsmoker 1 year ago
Talk slower dude, I can't understand what you're saying lol
nguyenkhan202 1 year ago
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PokeHard 1 year ago
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seclife321 1 year ago
usually, hydralisks pwn roaches with their range
PieisDaBest1 1 year ago
and btw @maxidebian you don't get the concept of the game zerg wasn't meant to have REALLY powerful super units zerg is based off of the strategy the they are cheap and you can make lots of them. they are built off of the stratgy of massing units. If their units were as strong as say the terrans and the protoss THEY WOULD BE WAY OVERPOWERED. the races in starcraft are very different in their own ways that fact that blizzard can make a balance in that is amazing.
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Loveme4life2010 1 year ago
Terra & protoss players , STOP SAYING that roach is imba , because is not , what about psi storm , colossi , hunter seeker missile etc etc .
Zerg units must have some kind of counter for them , well roaches have it .
For example , protoss & terran have larger units (BattleCruiser / Thor & Carrier / Mothership ) while zergs currently only have Broodlords (small compared to the other razes massive units) and Ultralisk not as good as Colossi
maxidebian 1 year ago
Having units that can beat the roach does not mean that it isnt imba. It's a question of cost effectiveness. When people say the roach is Imba they aren't saying that it beats everything, they are saying that it is too good for the cost and the tech level.
In other words, you can mass an army of roaches while your opponent still has zealots or marines - and roaches beat both - so your opponent wont have a chance to get psi storm, hunter seeker etc etc...
Itsnattatooma 1 year ago
@Itsnattatooma
ok , tell me this , if you are a zerg player , how do you counter psi storm , h s missile uh ?
Simply , you cant , in other words (because you cant counter a skill) what is the "equal" or equivalent skill in the zerg race ?
Yes , you dont have any , infestor sucks , while other races has nuke bomb , hs missile , emp shockwave , psi storm ...
I meen , yes roach is powerfull , but zerg race needs to have good and powerful units , because they dont have any type of caster..
maxidebian 1 year ago
uhm....sure...but then it's infestors that need a buff...or some other aspect of Zerg's tier 2. Although it's early days and perhaps people haven't learned to fully utilize infestors yet...
But still, you don't fix a tier 2 imbalance by creating a tier 1 imbalance...
Itsnattatooma 1 year ago
you should watch more of oversky's games (ZvP)
he uses infestors very well, almost nullifying the collosi
youj3an 1 year ago
you don't get the point a zerg player can get roaches really early in the game so early that they could roach-rush a base and since only heavier attacks are effective againist roaches they are OP in the beginning bc no other race has heavy attacks in the beginning
munstergamer 1 year ago
that would be because the zerg are a race meant to mass weak cheap units not create powerful, expensive units in small amounts.
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gamermanz12 1 year ago
haha hoopz was kind of a noob i think he should watch some replays learn strategy's wow i can't whait until sc 2 comes for sale :D
pitifulpotato 1 year ago
Fun to see OverSky's matches. He has a channel on youtube, check him out at PerfectionistEmblem.
TheLiquidPepper 2 years ago
lol @ hoopz
rawwqq 2 years ago
I say reduce the max hp of roaches to say 75.
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waterjerryfish 2 years ago
I love the slimy look of the creep
Niko988 2 years ago 9
Not much unit variety from both players. Mix-and-matching units, more than often, can turn the tide.
amazingdany 2 years ago 4
I think roaches should actually be called ultralings.
Also, anyone else think that roaches are kind of blurring the lines between protoss and zerg? Zerg is supposed to have dirt cheap, utter crap units, that they can mass up and own your face with, yet they have the roach. Its cheap(I think) and easy to mass, but not utter crap. In fact, unless you have detectors, being able to spike roaches seems like the only way to kill them when they have burrow, and are being properly microed.
genericusername562 2 years ago
well thats kinda why they made the beta so they can see what needs tweaking. most likely the roach will be weakned a bit so its not as cheap
XBONESXx 2 years ago
zerglins and banelings could be a good counter against roaches??
wolfcry62 2 years ago
Use Muta. omg the answer is so obvious
inhuman216 2 years ago
stupid move on reds part moving in the queen and drones, very stupid. Zerglings would have been a much better idea.
NigelGriff 2 years ago 8
Just like the other video.. you don't get it.. He was so far behind he just went all in before Oversky's expansion would make a difference
Kilithaza 2 years ago
weird - part 2 processed before part 1. in fact i think it pretty much processed instantaneously - p1 is still blurry. you uploaded p2 after p1 right?
shrint 2 years ago 3
red zerg should have stacked mutas coz the blue zerg is only building roaches.
jimboybaboy 2 years ago
yep or gone broodlords which would have demolished even worse
dillonpk 2 years ago