Great technique, but your flow drills/two man drills seem to be one sided, a good flow drill should include locks and reversals in equal portions, for if you encounter someone experienced in Chin Na the match will not be so one sided. Just food for thought.
Why argue over training it is this attitude that makes American martial arts weak. Competition is just that, but in the field where life or death matters you use whatever works. There's no arguing about which style is better. Just teach me what keeps me alive.
@allan2780 I agree, and to all the disrespectful mma practitioners out there, if it were not for traditional martial arts, mma would not exist! Take away specialized ground fighting arts, take away specialized striking arts, and all you have left is a bar room tough man brawl! You don't have to disrespect the old ways just because you don't agree with them. But step outside of the ring and rules of sports and you will find that a true combative art is very destructive when applied!
It's interesting to see the variety of comments. I haven't checked this page for a while. The Ryukyu Kenpo guys say "strike to lock, lock to strike". Hitting first is good, but if you are a cop or a bouncer in a club, you can't. Then, you must neutralize the attack and control. These UFC kids crack me up.
wristlocks don`t work? have you ever seen a police officer make an arrest? they use wristlocks every day.and as for the argument that the UFC doesn`t use them so they must not work is just ludicrous.i can assure you that a kick to the groin is a very effective technique and guess what? they`re just as illegal as wristlocks.
Yes, they do. Joint locks are employed by every single law enforcement agency on the planet, every single battlefield combat system employees joint locks. Tried and Tested, joint locks are far more effective hand to hand combat tools then strikes. Strikes are usually nothing more then bad intention, where joint locks lead to a bad ending. Your opinion demonstrates a clearly untested fighter.
Joint locks dont work?? have you ever seen MMA before? Brazilian ju jitsu?? are you kidding?
almost all (if not all) MMA leagues dont allow finger or wrist locks. they are easier to get then straight armbars, umaplatas, chokes etc. they work.
falls the fact of the matter is that comparing striking versus grappling is outmoded thinking. get witht the times. have both. one strike can kill some one. better to be good at doing and defending both.
you only say they dont work cause you couldnt do it learn it before you talk joint locks are in teh skeletal system it works ok they wouldnt teach these joint locks if it doesnt work
THIS IS A DRILL!!!!! In a real fight the strikes that he's delivering would distract the attacker long enought to set the lock in. If you don't think this stuff works, you haven't had it done to you...correctly.
@heyjt ...sorry..I'm just now seeing this post 3 years later...but the UFC doesn't allow small joint manipulation like this..they do however allow major joint locks though...i.e. elbows, knees.
Its not about if something comes in ufc or not its about defending yourself and what are you talking about they're always grappling in UFC its practicly 80 % of the fight.
im sorry but in a real fight people would just pull away from this. i cant stand it when i see people peddling this nonsense. it doesnt work in real life. at least not against men.
i have a ton of brazilian jiu jitsu experience so im a bad example. i see what your saying though your proud of him which is fine but no one is going to let him do that to them its as easy as pulling away
John i know a guy who bounced for years and he used to just hit guys until they went off balance then lock them up and walk them out the door. I remeber before i really knew him i was an MMA guy. He was a Kuk Sul Won guy and i had no love for traditional MA.
onceafter he got into a fight with a skin head they came looking for him. five of them folowed him and his girl into a grocery store and he put three of them in the hospital.came out unscathed. He also wrested a knife from out of a guys hands on two differnt ocassions.Once after being stabbed he wrist locked a guy so hard the knife almost ejected across the street. (by the way i know many different people who saw these things happen. and ive seen him fight before)
Hmm have you considered hitting them first????And if you're fast enough it would work.If you can't use joint locks it just proves you're too weak or slow.
This is good stuff... got any more? Some funny comments going on here... these are training methods, not actual fight "techniques"... not that you should be "doing" techniques anyway.
hahahaha, ok, resist, let me break your fingers, then do something I would break your other striking limbs as well, wut make you think "resist then counter attacks" gonna be better, it's the better joint lockers who win not the tougher one, now go educate yourself
Actually if you're getting locked, you can't realy hit with force. fun experiment, set a hand twist lock on someone, have them try to hit you with their free hand, as they go to hit you tork the lock quickly and watch their punch go limp. Don't do this if you're not experienced with joint locks enough to know when to stop cranking it, but it really shows you how damage on one side of the body affects the other.
uh read the comments i post first, obviously you can't hit when you are joint locked, I said hit people then joint lock them. If I was joint lock I reverse it similar to the vid
My appologies then. I've seen a lot of people who think they can hit you to get out of a joint lock, which may be possible, but isn't likely to work by itself. That experiment I posted above is a nice and controlled way of showing it. Hitting before locking is a great tactic.
the same thing wiht any technic, the important is the momet to do any technic; there are no infalible technics when the oponent decide to resist, there is a war.
Lock flow is not a finger lock, a wrist lock, a choke, or a throw: It's a living technique that spontaneously converts an opponent's energy into an advantage for you. What you viewed on the Youtube video is one (of many) drills to learn to do this. Techniques are easy to do against an opponent when a known attack is coming, but what do you do when they decide to resist you?
basic.....
iKohol 8 months ago
Love your video man! Keep up the good work!
Clemen79 1 year ago
action! said the director.. lol..
kiekert2007 1 year ago
Great technique, but your flow drills/two man drills seem to be one sided, a good flow drill should include locks and reversals in equal portions, for if you encounter someone experienced in Chin Na the match will not be so one sided. Just food for thought.
SijoJay 1 year ago
Why argue over training it is this attitude that makes American martial arts weak. Competition is just that, but in the field where life or death matters you use whatever works. There's no arguing about which style is better. Just teach me what keeps me alive.
stagolee24 1 year ago
mma or traditional martial arts it is all great
allan2780 2 years ago
@allan2780 I agree, and to all the disrespectful mma practitioners out there, if it were not for traditional martial arts, mma would not exist! Take away specialized ground fighting arts, take away specialized striking arts, and all you have left is a bar room tough man brawl! You don't have to disrespect the old ways just because you don't agree with them. But step outside of the ring and rules of sports and you will find that a true combative art is very destructive when applied!
SijoJay 1 year ago 2
joint locks are great but they must be masked or set up properly.
allan2780 2 years ago
It's interesting to see the variety of comments. I haven't checked this page for a while. The Ryukyu Kenpo guys say "strike to lock, lock to strike". Hitting first is good, but if you are a cop or a bouncer in a club, you can't. Then, you must neutralize the attack and control. These UFC kids crack me up.
Armchair martial artists. Never met a master.
Good luck with that, kids.
heyjt 2 years ago
wristlocks don`t work? have you ever seen a police officer make an arrest? they use wristlocks every day.and as for the argument that the UFC doesn`t use them so they must not work is just ludicrous.i can assure you that a kick to the groin is a very effective technique and guess what? they`re just as illegal as wristlocks.
ingram357 3 years ago 3
Why doesnt he just break the f#ckin fingers then he wouldnt have to transition anything?
Typical trad martial arts always pussyfooting about
wannabeebee 2 years ago
lol its like the art they used for water bending which is tai chi
sanfanucci 3 years ago
where did you find the cave man? =)
Xazuim 3 years ago
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joint locks are bullshit. they do not work in real life. sorry guys
qwerty678999 3 years ago
Yes, they do. Joint locks are employed by every single law enforcement agency on the planet, every single battlefield combat system employees joint locks. Tried and Tested, joint locks are far more effective hand to hand combat tools then strikes. Strikes are usually nothing more then bad intention, where joint locks lead to a bad ending. Your opinion demonstrates a clearly untested fighter.
Fallschrimmjager 3 years ago 6
Id like to reply yo qwert then falls.
Joint locks dont work?? have you ever seen MMA before? Brazilian ju jitsu?? are you kidding?
almost all (if not all) MMA leagues dont allow finger or wrist locks. they are easier to get then straight armbars, umaplatas, chokes etc. they work.
falls the fact of the matter is that comparing striking versus grappling is outmoded thinking. get witht the times. have both. one strike can kill some one. better to be good at doing and defending both.
chodykumbra 3 years ago
you only say they dont work cause you couldnt do it learn it before you talk joint locks are in teh skeletal system it works ok they wouldnt teach these joint locks if it doesnt work
sanfanucci 3 years ago
Take it from someone who has worked in nightclubs for 15 years...this works!!
budotenchi 3 years ago
THIS IS A DRILL!!!!! In a real fight the strikes that he's delivering would distract the attacker long enought to set the lock in. If you don't think this stuff works, you haven't had it done to you...correctly.
dvybe 3 years ago 2
Awesome! This is something I have been looking for.
thoraero 4 years ago
Thanks! That was great
Tiwaking 4 years ago
hey i have a question, how come they dont use this in the ufc? hahahahahaha
Johnf85 4 years ago
UFC does use joint lock flows. You must be new to this.
heyjt 4 years ago
haha no, and ufc does not have worthless akido name one match that has this crap
Johnf85 4 years ago
small joint locks are illegal in mma.
ironkong26 4 years ago
Wow you're all insecure why do you keep worrying about UFC and worry about defending yourself.
divinesmasher 3 years ago
@heyjt ...sorry..I'm just now seeing this post 3 years later...but the UFC doesn't allow small joint manipulation like this..they do however allow major joint locks though...i.e. elbows, knees.
LordKaseem 1 year ago
Its not about if something comes in ufc or not its about defending yourself and what are you talking about they're always grappling in UFC its practicly 80 % of the fight.
divinesmasher 4 years ago
im sorry but in a real fight people would just pull away from this. i cant stand it when i see people peddling this nonsense. it doesnt work in real life. at least not against men.
Johnf85 4 years ago
I would love to see him put a lock on you and lets see if it really works. Guaranteed you will be screaming like a bitch.
slouttop 4 years ago
i have a ton of brazilian jiu jitsu experience so im a bad example. i see what your saying though your proud of him which is fine but no one is going to let him do that to them its as easy as pulling away
Johnf85 4 years ago
John i know a guy who bounced for years and he used to just hit guys until they went off balance then lock them up and walk them out the door. I remeber before i really knew him i was an MMA guy. He was a Kuk Sul Won guy and i had no love for traditional MA.
chodykumbra 3 years ago
onceafter he got into a fight with a skin head they came looking for him. five of them folowed him and his girl into a grocery store and he put three of them in the hospital.came out unscathed. He also wrested a knife from out of a guys hands on two differnt ocassions.Once after being stabbed he wrist locked a guy so hard the knife almost ejected across the street. (by the way i know many different people who saw these things happen. and ive seen him fight before)
chodykumbra 3 years ago
Hmm have you considered hitting them first????And if you're fast enough it would work.If you can't use joint locks it just proves you're too weak or slow.
divinesmasher 3 years ago
martial arts was invented for the weak and slow in the first place. so weak and slow people could defend themselves.
Johnf85 3 years ago
??? really?? who invented martial arts???
chodykumbra 3 years ago
This is good stuff... got any more? Some funny comments going on here... these are training methods, not actual fight "techniques"... not that you should be "doing" techniques anyway.
littlecannon 4 years ago
hahahaha, ok, resist, let me break your fingers, then do something I would break your other striking limbs as well, wut make you think "resist then counter attacks" gonna be better, it's the better joint lockers who win not the tougher one, now go educate yourself
allnamestook 4 years ago
I'm sure there are many opponents who would let you break their fingers before conflict.
Applequest 4 years ago
they would when I straight fisted them twice, then sweep leg takedown
allnamestook 4 years ago
Actually if you're getting locked, you can't realy hit with force. fun experiment, set a hand twist lock on someone, have them try to hit you with their free hand, as they go to hit you tork the lock quickly and watch their punch go limp. Don't do this if you're not experienced with joint locks enough to know when to stop cranking it, but it really shows you how damage on one side of the body affects the other.
ahlgrasshopper 4 years ago
uh read the comments i post first, obviously you can't hit when you are joint locked, I said hit people then joint lock them. If I was joint lock I reverse it similar to the vid
allnamestook 4 years ago
My appologies then. I've seen a lot of people who think they can hit you to get out of a joint lock, which may be possible, but isn't likely to work by itself. That experiment I posted above is a nice and controlled way of showing it. Hitting before locking is a great tactic.
ahlgrasshopper 4 years ago
the same thing wiht any technic, the important is the momet to do any technic; there are no infalible technics when the oponent decide to resist, there is a war.
fallingjonsky 4 years ago
Lock flow is not a finger lock, a wrist lock, a choke, or a throw: It's a living technique that spontaneously converts an opponent's energy into an advantage for you. What you viewed on the Youtube video is one (of many) drills to learn to do this. Techniques are easy to do against an opponent when a known attack is coming, but what do you do when they decide to resist you?
CWiscomb 4 years ago
Lock and flow. That's awesome. Please post more.
wahzzzup 5 years ago