MOVIE : SOLYARIS (Solaris) [1972]

[DJRomeoV]

Tarkovsky created visual drugs. 

[lyudmilajeffery]

Nothing can be compared with this... 'Heart throb' George Clooney? Oh no... can he ever feel it or make you feel?

[NoyabrNovember]

Watching "2001: A Space Odyssey" and "Solaris" is like watching documentaries about "Souz - Apollo". Everything mentioned above was created during the Cold War with one purpose: to remind us that we are all human and we can't escape each other.

[killercroc89]

@NoyabrNovember

His name is Tarkovskij and don't you think that saying "anything else is unimportant and not worth paying attention to" is a little extreme?

[NoyabrNovember]

"2001: A Space Odyssey" by Kubrick and "Solaris" by Tarkovsky were, are, and always will be the two very best films made by humans about two living creatures we humans will never understand completely - about Space and Universe. Anything else is just anything else - unimportant and not worth paying attention to.

[AndrewTubbiolo]

I'm all for this Soviet vision of space travel!

[oncelostmain]

I dont think, that the film is "original" - it is also could be a "remake" of Lem story.

Maybe Soderberg is even more close to Lem. Ony who knows Tarkovski`s way understand, that Tarkovski always has his own (and only) story for which Lem made just a scenery. This is everybody's choice to be so deep to understand it, or not.

[spsmyth]

Both movies are good, but they both miss the SF point Stanislaw Lem was trying to make. That human/alien communication would be virtually impossible because we have no common frame of reference. I'd like to see that movie.

[Enhancedhpb2007]

I watch the remake before seeing the original. I think the remake is better.

[oncelostmain]

I do not understand why compare these two films. Tarkovsky always makes films on his subject, regardless of original literary works. Often they do not have anything in common. This is a philosophical movie, if someone does not understand.

[0hluliz]

i did't know that there is a second version. To re-make Tarkovsky or even think the thought is just ridiculous. Tarkovsky was and still is life: tarkovsky is cinema.

[0hluliz]

i did't know that there is a second version. To re-make Tarkovsky or even think the thought is just ridiculous. Tarkovsky was and still is life: tarkovsky is cinema.

[gwz]

Just to clarify this scene.

The protagonists long dead girlfriend makes her second appearance on the space station. Removing her clothes she put her shawl on the chair, right next to an identical shawl which belonged to the first version of the girlfriend who made a similar appearance earlier. It's only hinted, but so damn good.

[energeez]

omg shutup you morons about the original being better you elitist shitbags

[Frizbonk]

@energeez how are they elitist? its an opinion. comparisons between the original and remake are bound to happen because it is after all based on the same movie or book. doesnt make them elitist for thinking that the original is better.

[Ulf1957]

Music is what makes this scene such a horror-stricken one. Music is fantastic throughout the film

[Blenderhead71]

I prefer this adaptation, but you do realize that Stanislaw Lem prefers the American version

[decembertwilight1225]

this film was amazing.. and this is a beautiful scene.

[farmfilfarmersyrkac]

Sodenberg´s was b*llshit

[wowi132]

Hi ... i saw this movie and it reminded me of a childhood video i dont know the name solaris or something ... the only thing i remember of it is something about two space rockets the first one is dead the other one has life on it then it has to save the survivors of the first ship then the rescuers see the dead men sitting on a bench they got burned by a solar storm... anyone know the name of the movie plz tell me!

[h00bastank18]

@wowi132 Sunshine.

[dacloo]

never seen footage of the original before. Good stuff. grabs me more than the remake somehow.

[TurkiyeCumhurbaskani]

idi suda zaychik moy

[admirs6]

Tarkovsky's Solyaris is one of the best and the most intelligent SF movies ever made.

[ivangrebe]

i can't understand all those people who insist on comparing the film with the book! hey , we are talking about THE FILM - meant this something for you?

[universalself]

hari is hot

[thedeeliciousplum]

Oh, I loved this film! A friend had introduced me to the films by Tarkovsky during a Vancouver international film festival. We managed to catch 11 of his 12? films and each one was truly a visual and thought-provoking journey.

[MutilatedCore]

In the remake they concentrated too much on the relationship between Kelvin and Rheya aka Hari. The movie is a sort of love story somewhere in Space...It misses such atmospheric scenes like this (really helps if you cant sleep :)) and the motorway scene.

[laurouq]

A glimpse into Tarkovsky's genius! Beyond communication.

[Fianna10]

Sorry didnt like it - maybe because I was expecting a sci-fi film. This film exploits the sci-fi genre as a vehicle for a psychodrama that could have been made in any genre. I'm sure the film deals with deep and powerful human psychological issues with novel elegance but I dont care I didnt enjoy it. The American one is also shit

[markzoi]

blablablabla are you ok? get some sex man! and relax...

[albedoshader]

Sci-fi isn't about light sabers, aliens with four arms or laser guns. That's space opera.

The best novels are about exploring "scientific" concepts and their consequences. No matter if the concepts are philosophical, physical, social or even about language or communication.

[Enderwiggan1]

@albedoshader There's nothing "scientific" about this concept - its complete fantasy

[albedoshader]

@Enderwiggan1:

Epistemology isn't fantasy. Are you talking about the film or the book?

The book is about the limits of communication and understanding - not in a superficial context but in a very concrete one.

[Enderwiggan1]

@albedoshader Im talking about the film. A sentient planet recreating a human being out of sub-atomic particles as a means of communication is pure fantasy. It has absolutely no place in science whatsoever. Look I know this film is loved but I would be better if it had of been told through the fantasy genre and the themes in the film were explored through magic not science.

[h00bastank18]

@Enderwiggan1 Dude, it's science FICTION. The best thing about science fiction (REAL science fiction) is that it challenges the mind. It's about the concept. Besides, for all we know about the universe there could even exist this exact planet. Think about it: billions of solar systems. You have no authority to say the concept behind Solyaris is fantasy.

[arseymcpherson]

I'm going to go on out on a limb here and say that for the author of the novel on which this is based, Stanislaw Lem, it was safer to write within the science fiction genre within communist controlled Poland. So for me it is a happy accident that the atmosphere of the space station is used for the story. Life is so much more rewarding when we look in to things a little deeper.

[brainh]

do you know where can i buy the movie?

[albedoshader]

Amazon. I got it there.

[DronetekPolitics]

Yeah, the remake is just horrible.

[placydil]

whrere's george clooney? hehe, no; this, the original was something else. the americans have a sense of entitlement and they remake any film believeing they'll do a better job; by default. But watching the remake is like watching a sitcom. there's no feeling, like waiting for the one funny joke in a comedy, the remake has few moments of meaning, for which one waits during the films entirety

[GilbertsV1]

@placydil I think Soderberg made the movie because he knew 99% of the audience don't know this movie, so not a bad idea at all, and if people want to see the original from 72', even better !!

[MylesDiverge]

@placydil I agree, despite being American.

[CaptainKrauser]

@placydil "americans have a sense of entitlement"

Yeah, but nobody else does? Plenty of American film-fans are told they HAVE to like foreign cinema, or else get branded "uncultured rednecks".

[placydil]

@CaptainKrauser I'm sorry but there is no such thing as foreign cinema. Foreign from what? It's only a point of view. But If by that term you mean different then yes you are right; a lot of it is self indulgent waffle and you should not have to like it. And yes your country has made many more great films than the rest of the world. But also the American studios are shitting on the fewer gems we have by way of remakes. That may have been my point but i can;t remember it was 8 months ago.

[CaptainKrauser]

@placydil Yeah I meant what people seem to think about American movies in comparison to directors of other world cinema

Many American directors, however, put a target on their heads by remakin foreign classics (like Soderberg with Solaris)

[inachu]

@placydil

I want to buy this russian version but I did like the soundtrack to the new solaris.

[TheStaticage01]

@placydil Im an American and I would agree-we have been doing too many remakes lately-at least for the last 15 yrs or so-and I gotta tell ya-you are nearly spot on about your opinion that the remakes would be "better by default"...I'm tired of our damn remakes too and I'm from here.I watch movies like the original Solaris to study Tarkovsky's use of the camera and to and to bone up on my Russian.The only good remake we've done in my opinion is Willard w Crispin Glover-have you seen it?Its good.

[rishi851]

@TheStaticage01

No offenses dude but Soderberg's Solaris is just as good, if maybe a tad bit less, but not by much. The visuals are better in the remake. I, as a rule, tend to disown remakes before I even watch them but Solaris was a revelation.

[TheStaticage01]

@rishi851None taken-but like I've said-I like to watch theTarkovsky version for his shots used for his versionTheres an "Eisentein" quality to it?...Alot of actors at mid-frame with slow zoom in and out sort of stuff-plus I mainly like this film for theRussian language in general because most of the dialouge is between 2 characters who are intimate-so they have a slow interaction between eachother? Its easier to follow along with because of the pace.Sodenburgs film is good-Ijust like this 1 more

[blablaidontcarewhour]

@placydil I love the original film, but the remake was decent. The focus and themes of the films are different, and look at Soderberg's credentials. He's actually a talented filmmaker.

[Quex01]

@placydil You can't make a deeply philosophical film in a country, where people don't like to think.

[blancaperse]

book is fantastic, one of my favourites ever. adaptation by tarkovski is great. soderbergh is just a fake. would suggest not to see second version... but to see again this one.

[DH328]

the book is incredible. much more about the planet than the relationship between kris and his wife, but the movie works very well on its own. the overall feeling and atmosphere is dead-on as to how it was in the book.

[myownservant]

Awesome movie. One to be remembered.

[LeLeLEIX]

ha... read the book!

[GoldenXen]

Best Horror sci-fi book???

Horror??

[MKAskina]

Esoteric film

[leeloo67]

This is my favorite movie ever, but this particular scene bothers me for two reasons - first, this is the second appearance of Hari, who somehow knows to cut off her dress while the first one didn't; and secondly, she cuts off her dress - presumably ruining it - and yet she is shown wearing it throughout the rest of the movie.

[elwimpo1974]

great movie

[BopperEnLarmes]

j'adore ce genre de film.

[SteliosGrPeireas]

what kind of movie is that one i have never seen it but i hear a lot about it !

[cloeda]

the book by Stanislas Lem is absolutely fantastic...its definitely worth a read and there's plenty cheap second hand copies out there.

[OzzieUc]

he should get a Nobel price, he was a genius, and in my opinion Solaris is the best horror sci- fi book ever written :)

[cloeda]

What other books by Lem would you recommend?

[petensar]

Fiasco!

[julqw2]

Edem

[pinkyruletheworld]

stories about pirx, eden

[albedoshader]

@cloeda:

Novels:

Solaris, His Master's Voice, The Futurological Congress, Golem XIV, The Invincible (the first good description of "nanobots/micro machines" I know of - it's from 1964!), The Cyberiad, A Perfect Vacuum, The investigation

Essays on technological progress and its consequences:

Summa Technologiae, Mystery of the Chinese Room, The Megabit Bomb

[iaquil]

Horror sci-fi book?

[Oluas]

Beautiful and haunting.