@Flara14luvsllamas I'm a whistle player myself. Circular breathing isn't as useful on tin whistle as it is on flute or other woodwinds. The whistle is a lot like a fipple flute, only it just has six holes. In some ways it's easier than common wind instruments (no thumbhole :) ) but in other ways it's harder.
I love how people are saying that he's not that good, and he's considered the 2007 All-Ireland Senior Champion. I'd would like to see his negative critics post a video of themselves playing what he's playing in front of an audience.
Well Done Cian, Its just a pity theres so many morons on you tube-- most of whom don't have a note their heads-- who set themselves up as so called Experts on tempo and timing and style. Your'e a young lad who has a great talent and this will develop with time and experience of playing in sessions and with other musicians. Congrats on your achievements so far Cian !!
sligo... my nana's from moygara sligo.. mary reid.lol great job i wish i could do that when you get older and go to the bar pull that thing out and watch the girls line up...lol
@PlaidJaguar LOL. No he doesn't. You could use him as a metronome, that's how 'on beat' he plays. The tempo is fast, but that's inherent to the style..
@Washala Metronomes can't measure rhythm, only tempo. Yes, his tempo is flawless, and each note is played succinctly and evenly. But the style actually calls for the player to be much more flexible with the song. Traditional whistle playing can't be properly notated in sheet; it serves as a guide, but certainly shouldn't restrict the player. He sounds as though he's playing from sheet music. He does it very well, but nonetheless robs the music of its character.
is it me or is his right eye (well technically his left but it looks like his right cuz of the camera) slightly higher then his other eye? idk kinda tripped me out haha, otherwise pretty legit music bro.
I'm wanting to learn multiple flute-like instruments in my lifetime and would like to add the Irish Whistle to my collection. Would anyone happen to know of a good dealer that's selling whistles similar to the one played in the video? Thanks :)
This guy is freaking great, but I hope you realize that this is all uploaded by someone other than the artist. He probably has no clue he's actually on here.
Those commenting about "lack of emotion" must not be players. This young man is in "the zone" when he's playing - a state of concentration that is wholly in the moment, a way of getting the brain and the fingers and the breath completely in concert. He's completely passionate about this music - you can see it in his fingers and hear it in his ornamentation and breathing. Yes, he's also being filmed. Not all fine musicians prance around the stage and make grand movements - or even smile.
You have a gift and as you know you only become this good with practice and dertermination. You have just shown the capability of the most underated instrument in the world, well done and I am so envious of your tallents, keep it up.
I'll tell you whats "void of any feeling" are most of these comments.
Cian, don't you dare listen to these negative comments. you have a wonderful talent and a true gift. the people commenting negatively and myself only WISH we had a fraction of your talent. an artist is a true gift to the world please keep up the good work.
@TheKeyWestian That's not what I'm getting at. I don't doubt that it takes a very talented and determined person to play like that. But there is no body movement and he's staring at the camera like he's reading an autocue or awkwardly looking around the room.
@TheKeyWestian That's not what I'm getting at. I don't doubt that it takes a very talented and determined person to play like that. But there is no body movement and he's staring at the camera like he's reading an autocue or awkwardly looking around the room.
I'm no where as good as this young man but when I do take it out and play it in public I catch quite a crowd.....that does include young ladies too. ;)
it appears to be double-jointed...? I am probably wrong but my little sister's got all ten fingers double-jointed and that looks like what she can do. Than again, maybe it's been broken; the 2nd finger on my right hand looks like that sometimes
It's a straight bore tin whistle or flageolet in the key of D, but I don't recognise the maker. It looks like a plastic coating on the mouthpeice and a metal fipple, which I'd usually associate with low whistles (ie. an octave lower).
For beginners I'd recomend the conical bore Clarke's whistle with the plastic fipple. They're easy to obtain, don't get condensation like a metal fipple or detune like the wooden block mouthpiece, and don't squeak on the high octave like some straight bores.
Glorious. The discipline has been worth it, dear fellow. I'm an American actor (family from Tiperary) planning a one man show based on the Darby O'Gill stories. A few months ago I decided Darby should play the tin whistle. Since the character is quite poor I've been using teh simple Clarke D. I have a ways to go, but I have great inspiration from these videos. I'll be watching for more from you.
I'm an American actor (family from Tipperary) planning a one-man show based on the Darby O'Gill stories. A few months ago I decided that Darby should play the tin whistle. How grand that I can hear and see this craft so finely preserved and presented. Obviously all that practice has been worthwhile. Congrats to you, young man!
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Lifting your fingers that high might look good and all for the camera, but its still a shabby technique - overall it was mediocre, quite lifeless, I mean christ just A BIT of movement so we know you're still alive for god's sakes :->
As great as celtic tunes a good ol tin whistles get, to me all celtic tunes, or at least the jigs seem so confusing to make. I sometimes if not often can't find out if there's even a chorus, not that that's a bad thing, but it frustrates me that fast celtic tunes seem to be an artful string of notes that fly in all directions, but I'm not able to figure one like the piece heard here. :( I guess this is the plight of an ocarina player? XD maybe i should invest in a tin whistle as well... :3
Those whistle tunes remind me of guitar solos sometimes, fast melodic work without really a chorus or something but somehow centered around a basis but very freely flowing from there on. I'm so getting a tin whistle and go on walking around in the forest playing some melodies, this must be awesome!
this guy is a teacher in my school omg cringe factor good whistle work though
Amy54152 3 days ago
My right ear enjoyed this.
dcgild 4 days ago
ben feito
Irishman1427 1 week ago
great fingering
TheIrishgay 1 month ago
omg this man is magic,,,,,,,, i wonder did naimh teach him this technique.... hup..
MrMagbox 2 months ago
Please tell me that everyone else is thinking the same thing...Magic fingers! O.O
ColdomadeusX 3 months ago
@Flara14luvsllamas I'm a whistle player myself. Circular breathing isn't as useful on tin whistle as it is on flute or other woodwinds. The whistle is a lot like a fipple flute, only it just has six holes. In some ways it's easier than common wind instruments (no thumbhole :) ) but in other ways it's harder.
heavenlyboy34 3 months ago
awesome
SigurdNORWAY 4 months ago
Keep pressing 1.
MrLochanOra 4 months ago
that is absolutely brilliant,a very talented young man playing a beautiful couple of tunes!
TrueBlueEG8 5 months ago
What I love about these whistle videos is that you can click anywhere on the timeline and it all sounds the fuckin same!
rippenburn 6 months ago 11
@rippenburn LOL, that's so true! :D
smileeey3 5 months ago
wow, must take alot of air cuz you breathe alot. you sould try circular breathing! :D
Flara14luvsllamas 6 months ago
@Flara14luvsllamas Yeah, just use circular breathing.
If only it were that easy.
JohnnyWmusic 5 months ago
Irish skills!
TheOlypianGods 6 months ago
This is pure Genius!!!!!!
IrishDruids 6 months ago
With regards to the negative comments, those that post them should read this lad's T-shirt: 'Talk to the Hand'.
treeoftears 6 months ago
I love how people are saying that he's not that good, and he's considered the 2007 All-Ireland Senior Champion. I'd would like to see his negative critics post a video of themselves playing what he's playing in front of an audience.
SomeCallMeD 7 months ago in playlist tin whistle music
Well Done Cian, Its just a pity theres so many morons on you tube-- most of whom don't have a note their heads-- who set themselves up as so called Experts on tempo and timing and style. Your'e a young lad who has a great talent and this will develop with time and experience of playing in sessions and with other musicians. Congrats on your achievements so far Cian !!
babyzenon 8 months ago
UNBELIEVABLE!! HE ROCKS!!
nicolohac 9 months ago
sligo... my nana's from moygara sligo.. mary reid.lol great job i wish i could do that when you get older and go to the bar pull that thing out and watch the girls line up...lol
brian97038 1 year ago
Incredible talent, but feels rushed. He needs to work on his rhythm more.
PlaidJaguar 1 year ago
@PlaidJaguar LOL. No he doesn't. You could use him as a metronome, that's how 'on beat' he plays. The tempo is fast, but that's inherent to the style..
Washala 1 year ago
@Washala Metronomes can't measure rhythm, only tempo. Yes, his tempo is flawless, and each note is played succinctly and evenly. But the style actually calls for the player to be much more flexible with the song. Traditional whistle playing can't be properly notated in sheet; it serves as a guide, but certainly shouldn't restrict the player. He sounds as though he's playing from sheet music. He does it very well, but nonetheless robs the music of its character.
PlaidJaguar 1 year ago
hmmm...actually he is playing this exactly as it should be considering it is meant as an accompianment for dancers.
7777penda 11 months ago
@PlaidJaguar nonsense my friend, theres no need to complicate what is a fine piece of work.
mmbhoy83 10 months ago
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Gaaaaaay, and look at those ears.
trinix777 1 year ago
is it me or is his right eye (well technically his left but it looks like his right cuz of the camera) slightly higher then his other eye? idk kinda tripped me out haha, otherwise pretty legit music bro.
toastytoast69 1 year ago
you'r so good....and you'r fingers:O
RedMafia86 1 year ago
9 dilikes? 9 jealous barstewards more like. This is smashing stuff. Excellent,cheers.
ray123ification 1 year ago 2
You are so good, you have given me chills... :)
609Blondebomb 1 year ago
excelent !
brendan5158 1 year ago
What make of Whistle is that? Terrific playing:-)
BadWhistle 1 year ago
Looks like a John Sindt to me
taranakipiper 11 months ago
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taranakipiper 11 months ago
A very talented man. A very cute, talented man. :)
dork5Rus5 1 year ago
Hey i thought Dopey was supposed to be stupid. Disney lied!
dirosaga 1 year ago
excellent
bicnarok 1 year ago
Cool!
cusmhot 1 year ago
Cool!
cusmhot 1 year ago
Awesome to see someone take the simple Tin Whistle to such a high level!!. What is the make of the whistle you are playing?
richardhanna0 1 year ago
LUGS! but yeah nice one!
vedio55 1 year ago
i admire your concentration. very well done.
wellticklemyballs 1 year ago
Fantastic.
CocoonSoon 1 year ago
Love. o.O
Sanjayaluvr19 1 year ago
Amazing =O
illiiiilli 1 year ago
Woooooow! I'm jealous! Great!
Blondompje 1 year ago
brilliant, started learning whistle lately, and i'm 57, great stuff kid, mick limerick
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hehe monkey ears
E°°ヨ
omoshiroidayo 1 year ago
Beautiful!
Awenasa2 1 year ago
very nice :)
Cuenca20 1 year ago
so cute
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メーソンや世界中の人と仲直りがとてもしたいです!!。でも創価がそれを邪魔すると思います!!。
rabbittown1900 1 year ago
メーソンや世界中の人と仲直りがとてもしたいです!!。でも創価がそれを邪魔すると思います!!。
rabbittown1900 1 year ago
What whistle was used in this video?
StAungst 1 year ago
wow.... amazing
jrm33lover 1 year ago
i believe he can fly...
:D
Lagdieb 1 year ago
Beautiful man, Good luck!!!
jazzmanDUKE 1 year ago
I'm wanting to learn multiple flute-like instruments in my lifetime and would like to add the Irish Whistle to my collection. Would anyone happen to know of a good dealer that's selling whistles similar to the one played in the video? Thanks :)
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glittersky1 1 year ago
Now I know why you're a champion!!! I wish I had just half of your talent!! Awesome!!
glittersky1 1 year ago 2
ears...
Napalmkiller 1 year ago
This guy is freaking great, but I hope you realize that this is all uploaded by someone other than the artist. He probably has no clue he's actually on here.
MikeGlassVideos 1 year ago 11
W O W !
Gwillieth 1 year ago
what great musician this guy is! :D
Academic1Researcher 1 year ago
Outstanding. He sure has passed down the music. He'll definitely be inspiried by many.
TheThing2008 1 year ago
amazing
marca555 1 year ago
epic ! i wish to the heavens i could play this good with such a lack of emotion ... you are fantastic !
barrynotsteelable 1 year ago
Those commenting about "lack of emotion" must not be players. This young man is in "the zone" when he's playing - a state of concentration that is wholly in the moment, a way of getting the brain and the fingers and the breath completely in concert. He's completely passionate about this music - you can see it in his fingers and hear it in his ornamentation and breathing. Yes, he's also being filmed. Not all fine musicians prance around the stage and make grand movements - or even smile.
elmtree0728 1 year ago 3
He really doesn't look like he's enjoying it at all. I know its being filmed so its different but I can't stand that.
fh041205 1 year ago
This boy has a big future!
GoodIrishWitch 1 year ago
Fantastic!
camp4christ 1 year ago
wow this dude is epic!!!
usmcboi13 1 year ago
You have a gift and as you know you only become this good with practice and dertermination. You have just shown the capability of the most underated instrument in the world, well done and I am so envious of your tallents, keep it up.
Mainirishairsoft 1 year ago 2
U look like the vocal of the Pogues..
corbicula 1 year ago
go watch my vid
plzzzzzzzzzzz
TheGreatBos 1 year ago
wooow lovely tunes ur really gud
ellieg825 1 year ago
wonderful !!!
irishflower29 1 year ago
Very impressive!
olfert24 1 year ago
wow that is so wonderful playing!!!!!! how long have you played before you could get to this level???
ppl00125 1 year ago
nice ears
moonbaby38 1 year ago
@moonbaby38 lmao
bailey0071 1 year ago
u lucky irish bastard. to be so connected to yr IRsh HERITAGE. pRAISE THE LORD JESUS CHRIST every time u play that pipe !!!!!
edmurph1 1 year ago
you have the irish spirit in ya
fdslkjfdshjjhsdlkjfd 1 year ago
Amazing.
Ceminon 1 year ago
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celtic4ever18 1 year ago
Cian!
That was marvelous! Fantastic! Keep it up mate! I wish i can play half as well as you do. You're a real inspiration lad!
PrinceZarif 1 year ago 2
Gaah not even I can do that! A very talented kid this one hehe.
TheThing2008 1 year ago
AMAZING!(:
Eberweintaylor 1 year ago
Very talented.
Dracapalley 2 years ago 2
Those ears are a real turn on for any girl
DancesWithLlamas 2 years ago
@DancesWithLlamas lol so is the name "danceswithllamas"
peonchop2 2 years ago
but look at his fingers, im sure the girls are after him
megafoxyzach 1 year ago
hey you song good keep up the good work thanks for the music hope to go the the isles some day
CalmingWind 2 years ago
I'll tell you whats "void of any feeling" are most of these comments.
Cian, don't you dare listen to these negative comments. you have a wonderful talent and a true gift. the people commenting negatively and myself only WISH we had a fraction of your talent. an artist is a true gift to the world please keep up the good work.
gman987987 2 years ago 71
Agreed gman, and also I find it interesting reading comments from people from continental europe talking about lack of emotion.
mmmmmmmmmmm!!
03D23036 2 years ago 3
@gman987987 Amen
Evilbob33 1 year ago
@gman987987 Well said! Keep it up Cian, you're very talented!
Suki278 1 year ago
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Technically brilliant, but completely void of any feeling or passion.
SamFischer1000 2 years ago
Totally agree.
PTBass 2 years ago
@SamFischer1000 what do you mean.
practicing that much to be able to play that takes passion, determination, and feeling.
you have no idea what your talking about.
TheKeyWestian 1 year ago
@TheKeyWestian That's not what I'm getting at. I don't doubt that it takes a very talented and determined person to play like that. But there is no body movement and he's staring at the camera like he's reading an autocue or awkwardly looking around the room.
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@TheKeyWestian That's not what I'm getting at. I don't doubt that it takes a very talented and determined person to play like that. But there is no body movement and he's staring at the camera like he's reading an autocue or awkwardly looking around the room.
SamFischer1000 1 year ago
Awesome!
bionicbigfoot 2 years ago
why are people putting the thumbs down to azeron1 he is quite right in what he is saying the boy is just playing the music hes not feeling the music.
scottishwhistler 2 years ago
NICE !!!!
Duncandu1920 2 years ago
Are u at the Fla?
XxLaurenJohnstonxX 2 years ago
I have to agree with Azeron1 but you are amazing
XxLaurenJohnstonxX 2 years ago
I am sorry but he looks like some robot, no passion.. but hes a real master!
Azeron1 2 years ago
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Totally agreed, he is perfect in technique, but lack the emotion.
PTBass 2 years ago
Is the second tune not Fox on the Town?
mcconfi 2 years ago
@mcconfi Yes it is!
alistaircassidy 2 years ago
Alright, that does it! I'm getting one!
HEIGHTSIXFIVE 2 years ago
si!!! muy bueno!!!!
jordixeito 2 years ago
great!!
urania451 2 years ago
Very, very nice
TheLenaBean 2 years ago
Beautiful!
CelticVoiceInTheWind 2 years ago
although a brilliant player
bonkerscrazy 2 years ago
lmao sindre
bonkerscrazy 2 years ago
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sindre101 2 years ago
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Man i'm fucking bored. I don't even know how I got to this video.
kungfujellybean 2 years ago
@kungfujellybean good for you?
TheKeyWestian 1 year ago
@TheKeyWestian I know, right? I accidentally stumbled upon this video a year ago because I was bored and I spoke my mind...
Man, I'm such a dick sometimes!
kungfujellybean 1 year ago
I'm no where as good as this young man but when I do take it out and play it in public I catch quite a crowd.....that does include young ladies too. ;)
TheBluePepper 2 years ago
you must be getting alot of pussy.
Eestlaneonvisa 2 years ago
Awesome, you looked in the beginning a bit insecure. No need for that, mate!!
That Was absolutely amazing!!
(pff, Wish I could do that...)
Timpecal 2 years ago 4
This is brilliant, all the haters out here a just jealous because they could never play this, great job :)
92rachh 2 years ago 5
He shouldn't worry about the brilliant musician but more about his spelling.....moron.
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*Little boy*, Mommy, why is dumbo playing the tin whistle?
*Mother8, Johnny, thats not dumbo, thats a fagot irish boy.
No ofense to you
I GIVE YOU 34755678759864325425 OUT OF 0
fryedchickenisgood 2 years ago
@fryedchickenisgood what makes him a faggot (Even though faggot is not an adjective, numnuts)
TheKeyWestian 1 year ago
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ha what faggot would play a song like tht to a girl haha
10razza10 2 years ago
@10razza10 at leasthe has a girl to play a song too....
TheKeyWestian 1 year ago
Brilliant! He almost looks like he's in a trance like state!
anitamcgahern 2 years ago 3
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Am I the only person who feels like a tin whistle alone sounds insufficient for a song?
Neiblis 2 years ago
Yes you are.
mwhdvm 2 years ago 16
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so hot when he puts it in his mouth
amodino 2 years ago
omg...i guess you've your flute everytime with you and when theres some cute girl you put it out and play this song. i would be...surprised xD
SoulPossesion 2 years ago
The intro was so cheesy makes the guy look a bit slow lol...
but the playing made up for that by miles ! Nice Work !!! 5/5
FinnOnline 2 years ago
A-M-A-Z-I-N-G!!! =O
Ragga96 2 years ago 4
Nice bit of playing.
Normanskie 2 years ago
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big ears :O
maroto1988 2 years ago
Great playing Cian. Play the Sindt myself. See u were adjudicating at Leinster Fleadh in Wcklow. Maybe can meet for a few tunes at All Ireland!
Mrwhistleman1000 2 years ago
Breathtaking
EshnaHere 2 years ago
0.o... w_T_f way is your left hand 3rd finger? good fingering action tho i've never seen anything like the sort before.
millball 2 years ago
it appears to be double-jointed...? I am probably wrong but my little sister's got all ten fingers double-jointed and that looks like what she can do. Than again, maybe it's been broken; the 2nd finger on my right hand looks like that sometimes
themoggetchild 2 years ago
haha Amazing !
aasigraa 2 years ago
does everyone play with their fingertips now? seems a bit difficult... amazing job though... anyone else know the second reel as finbar dwyer's?
corbulo222 2 years ago
Wow! You seriously have a gift. You play with a wonderful sound, tone, and have amazing technique.
May I know what instrument specificly you're playing on?
kristinaheckel 2 years ago
Its called a Tin whistle
collzeliz 2 years ago
It's a straight bore tin whistle or flageolet in the key of D, but I don't recognise the maker. It looks like a plastic coating on the mouthpeice and a metal fipple, which I'd usually associate with low whistles (ie. an octave lower).
For beginners I'd recomend the conical bore Clarke's whistle with the plastic fipple. They're easy to obtain, don't get condensation like a metal fipple or detune like the wooden block mouthpiece, and don't squeak on the high octave like some straight bores.
differous01 2 years ago
Thank you! I think I might just pick up this nifty little instrument.
kristinaheckel 2 years ago
@differous01: the maker is John Sindt (U.S.)
brkflute 2 years ago
@brkflute
Yes - I recognized it right away - the favorite in my collection! It's heavier and has a fuller sound - and can really go the octaves.
elmtree0728 1 year ago
nothing else but pure perfection and beauty. Beautiful Irish music :D x
Raichu234 2 years ago
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xDark2Lightx 2 years ago
What else is there but offense in pointing that out?
ithalis 2 years ago
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xDark2Lightx 2 years ago
nicely done
lillesuper 2 years ago
Wow, that's what I call speed! Amazing! Great job!
Danny30011980 2 years ago
Glorious. The discipline has been worth it, dear fellow. I'm an American actor (family from Tiperary) planning a one man show based on the Darby O'Gill stories. A few months ago I decided Darby should play the tin whistle. Since the character is quite poor I've been using teh simple Clarke D. I have a ways to go, but I have great inspiration from these videos. I'll be watching for more from you.
DarEdKelly 2 years ago
I'm an American actor (family from Tipperary) planning a one-man show based on the Darby O'Gill stories. A few months ago I decided that Darby should play the tin whistle. How grand that I can hear and see this craft so finely preserved and presented. Obviously all that practice has been worthwhile. Congrats to you, young man!
DarEdKelly 2 years ago
OMG is this THE Cian Kearins? This is the stuff of legends. I once brushed past him in Supermacs in Letterkenny and I haven't washed my arm since.
LEDDDDDDDDGE
sparklefaced 2 years ago
My congratulations from Bari (Italy); me too I play tin whistles! Bravo
bodhran61 2 years ago
io sono di Mola, vorrei iniziare come hobby. tu da dove te li sei procurati? ciao
RozZinDisguise 2 years ago
gonna cry on this tune :P
lovin the music
thats why i love irland
SDKsa1 2 years ago
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Lifting your fingers that high might look good and all for the camera, but its still a shabby technique - overall it was mediocre, quite lifeless, I mean christ just A BIT of movement so we know you're still alive for god's sakes :->
ApeOfGod1 2 years ago
Well this guy IS the champion...
I don't understand the discouragement.
SoloPizza7 2 years ago
listen if you had videos on your page showing superior technique, i would understand, but you just sound like an arrogant dickhead..
You have to lift your fingeres high enough, its not a shabby technique, tells me you dont have a clue what your talking about.
neilhosey 2 years ago
Irish music is so gorgeous! Hail Ireland and all it's muscians for ever! x
Raichu234 2 years ago 3
ahhh, I'm just learning kind of online.. my dad plays but hasn't played for a long time.. I'm SO jealous of Cian. WOW. I aspire to play this well!
irishdancinbabe1 2 years ago
OMG! U r amazing! x
Raichu234 2 years ago
Nice playing Cian. Beautiful rhythm and melody.
gbonnell 3 years ago 3
I've really wanted to learn the tin whistle or whatever the shit that is, but God damn, watching that is intimidating.
spittle8 3 years ago
that would get the oul toes tappin!
joelangan 3 years ago
anyone know the brand of whistle he's using?
jawg22 3 years ago
That looks like a John Sindt whistle. He's the best whistle maker in the world imho.
onearmfrog 3 years ago
As great as celtic tunes a good ol tin whistles get, to me all celtic tunes, or at least the jigs seem so confusing to make. I sometimes if not often can't find out if there's even a chorus, not that that's a bad thing, but it frustrates me that fast celtic tunes seem to be an artful string of notes that fly in all directions, but I'm not able to figure one like the piece heard here. :( I guess this is the plight of an ocarina player? XD maybe i should invest in a tin whistle as well... :3
subakuryu 3 years ago
Those whistle tunes remind me of guitar solos sometimes, fast melodic work without really a chorus or something but somehow centered around a basis but very freely flowing from there on. I'm so getting a tin whistle and go on walking around in the forest playing some melodies, this must be awesome!
Altairograph 2 years ago
Irish tunes are divided into parts, not stanza/chorus.
If you think the music seems confusing, don't worry. That's normal for those who are not used to this music.
deterdettol 2 years ago
wow. great. inspiring! thanks!
gnumusic 3 years ago