@unambitious I don't get this, if these torpedo speeds actually exist then why is the US navy totally relying on conventional torpedoes, they would never stay behind on military technological ground...
@Mendelevium146 As it stands, they are only used for testing. This is largely because they haven't implemented a way to steer supercavatating torpedoes yet. They haven't quite figured out how to turn it without destroying the bubble in which it sits. Thrust vectoring nozzles like on fighter jets is being explored... who knows, maybe they did figure it out and it's on the black. It would allow a sub to attack from 15km away before you know it. It would be revolutionary in naval warfare.
@unambitious I'm not too sure about that, since nowadays when a modern torpedo is locked on you all you can do is pretty much cross fingers and prey. Counter measures rely on preventing the sub to get in range. Maybe it could add range to the torpedo though, but torpedoes now typically have range of over 30 km. My guess is that no one actually achieved supercavitation and that what they did is implement rocket thruster on torpedoes.
@Mendelevium146 I did a little research... Look at the Russian Shkval torpedo in wikipedia. You'll find it's real and in the field. It caught the attention of it's western counterparts which is why the US is developing it's own system. Its said to have no effective counter measures. It can be used defensively as a sudden response to enemy torpedo fire thus causing the enemy sub to try and evade which might cut the old torpedo's guidance wire. Or offensively with nukes (splash damage).
@unambitious Oh and I think the US is concentrating more on a submarine mounted turret that fires supercavitating rounds. This would allow it to engage targets in any direction despite the ships heading (maybe engage torpedos?). Also a helicopter mounted turret with supercavitating rounds. Saw an article on that. Still a step behind the Russians. Guess the only reason US torpedoes are faster is because they built on their discoveries... sort of a role reversal imo.
@unambitious Yea that is all very intriguing stuff, but my point is I'm really skeptical whether supercavitation was ever achieved. I mean, a rocket boosted torpedo, which would be like a missile that you use underwater, would go pretty damn fast without requiring supercavitation. So my guess is that this whole thing doesn't have to do with supercavitation but with rocket propulsion used underwater, but I could be wrong...
@Mendelevium146 It was achieved in this vid and it says that russian torpedo utilized it. In fact, underwater rocket propulsion would probably only be viable with supercavitation... that's how the russian Shkval works so you've got it right for the most part.
I did a little research.. Look at the Russian Shkval torpedo in wikipedia. You'll find it's real and in the field. It caught the attention of it's western counterparts which is why the US is developing it's own system. Its said to have no effective counter measures. It can be used defensively as a sudden response to enemy torpedo fire thus causing the enemy sub to try and evade which might cut the old torpedo's guidance wire
insane that an underwater torpedo can be like a missile in the air!
@brucebu It is the demonstration of this torpedo to the China put the world to the brink of WWIII in 1999 whereby KURSK , one the best submarine in the North Fleet was drowned. A point note is this Shkval was developed during the Soviet era in 1970's and its moving 10 x times faster than the torpedoes which western world had at that time. Always Russians lead is Physics and Chemistry , Not an ayota of doubt in my mind.
@unambitious If it was invented in the 60s then I just can't conceive that any private company as achieved it with modern technology in order to exploit it's immense commercial potential..
@wiseyeffect this is pretty much an airfoil underwater, with a coat of gas surrounding it to reduce drag dramatically. this technology could literally make submarine warfare be as fast as aerial warfare up above.
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punxsutawneybarney 7 months ago
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worse01 7 months ago
Supercavitation Technology, like Stealth technology are BOTH russian Employing. they both were stolen by the yanks from USSR / Russia.
FUCK U AMERICUNTS!
Russia2010 7 months ago
@Russia2010 Go get drunk
SouthNJPC 3 months ago
@Russia2010 the only things you can steal from russia are beards and vodka
Yottskry 1 week ago
So much for U.S. Populated Myph's of Russian Tecnological Inferiority,
(As I had Long Surmised were False & was Proved right when i first saw Anotoli Bapkin's [The Inventor of the VA-111 Shkval] Masterpeice in Mid 2009)
When you look into it the Russian's were behind many of the Greatest Inovation's of the Modern Age & Truly Deserve Their share of the Credit,
(Not as MANY as the British but a considerable Number it has to be said).
I Look forward to when the Royal Navy has this Weapon.
TSR1989FF 1 year ago
what is the link between hydrofoils and supercavitation:
a)disfinformation
b)ingnorance
c) all this answer
d)the answer c)
carolnikkiperry 1 year ago
Hmmm.... seen it used for torpedos; gets them up to the speed of sound (US version anyway, russian 200mph). What's this for?
unambitious 1 year ago
@unambitious I don't get this, if these torpedo speeds actually exist then why is the US navy totally relying on conventional torpedoes, they would never stay behind on military technological ground...
same goes for all other great naval powers...
Mendelevium146 1 year ago
@Mendelevium146 As it stands, they are only used for testing. This is largely because they haven't implemented a way to steer supercavatating torpedoes yet. They haven't quite figured out how to turn it without destroying the bubble in which it sits. Thrust vectoring nozzles like on fighter jets is being explored... who knows, maybe they did figure it out and it's on the black. It would allow a sub to attack from 15km away before you know it. It would be revolutionary in naval warfare.
unambitious 1 year ago
@unambitious I'm not too sure about that, since nowadays when a modern torpedo is locked on you all you can do is pretty much cross fingers and prey. Counter measures rely on preventing the sub to get in range. Maybe it could add range to the torpedo though, but torpedoes now typically have range of over 30 km. My guess is that no one actually achieved supercavitation and that what they did is implement rocket thruster on torpedoes.
Mendelevium146 1 year ago
@Mendelevium146 I did a little research... Look at the Russian Shkval torpedo in wikipedia. You'll find it's real and in the field. It caught the attention of it's western counterparts which is why the US is developing it's own system. Its said to have no effective counter measures. It can be used defensively as a sudden response to enemy torpedo fire thus causing the enemy sub to try and evade which might cut the old torpedo's guidance wire. Or offensively with nukes (splash damage).
unambitious 1 year ago
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unambitious 1 year ago
@unambitious Oh and I think the US is concentrating more on a submarine mounted turret that fires supercavitating rounds. This would allow it to engage targets in any direction despite the ships heading (maybe engage torpedos?). Also a helicopter mounted turret with supercavitating rounds. Saw an article on that. Still a step behind the Russians. Guess the only reason US torpedoes are faster is because they built on their discoveries... sort of a role reversal imo.
unambitious 1 year ago
@unambitious Yea that is all very intriguing stuff, but my point is I'm really skeptical whether supercavitation was ever achieved. I mean, a rocket boosted torpedo, which would be like a missile that you use underwater, would go pretty damn fast without requiring supercavitation. So my guess is that this whole thing doesn't have to do with supercavitation but with rocket propulsion used underwater, but I could be wrong...
Mendelevium146 1 year ago
@Mendelevium146 Sometimes I wish I knew every secret military technology that exist on this planet, I'm sure it would be pretty fascinating...
Mendelevium146 1 year ago
@Mendelevium146 It was achieved in this vid and it says that russian torpedo utilized it. In fact, underwater rocket propulsion would probably only be viable with supercavitation... that's how the russian Shkval works so you've got it right for the most part.
unambitious 1 year ago
I did a little research.. Look at the Russian Shkval torpedo in wikipedia. You'll find it's real and in the field. It caught the attention of it's western counterparts which is why the US is developing it's own system. Its said to have no effective counter measures. It can be used defensively as a sudden response to enemy torpedo fire thus causing the enemy sub to try and evade which might cut the old torpedo's guidance wire
insane that an underwater torpedo can be like a missile in the air!
brucebu 11 months ago
@brucebu It is the demonstration of this torpedo to the China put the world to the brink of WWIII in 1999 whereby KURSK , one the best submarine in the North Fleet was drowned. A point note is this Shkval was developed during the Soviet era in 1970's and its moving 10 x times faster than the torpedoes which western world had at that time. Always Russians lead is Physics and Chemistry , Not an ayota of doubt in my mind.
worse01 7 months ago 2
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worse01 7 months ago
@unambitious If it was invented in the 60s then I just can't conceive that any private company as achieved it with modern technology in order to exploit it's immense commercial potential..
Mendelevium146 1 year ago
@unambitious I guess they must have a weak point
Mendelevium146 1 year ago
I need further explaination to what I was looking at.
wiseyeffect 1 year ago
@wiseyeffect this is pretty much an airfoil underwater, with a coat of gas surrounding it to reduce drag dramatically. this technology could literally make submarine warfare be as fast as aerial warfare up above.
1One2TwosAndPie 1 year ago