NH: Jardis to seek full-time lawyer for free staters

[ninjabunnyman]

Silent, as I pointed out to you before, government "rudeness" comes in the form of kidnapping and assault, whereas the worst liberty activists do is yell. The comparison is nowhere near valid.

And people should not do jobs that are immoral. If a behavior is immoral, that should be pointed out. The fact that you get a paycheck to do immoral things does not make it any better.

[wachman]

if you own your own cars, then why is it necessary to pay for registration? shouldn't you retain the right NOT to register them? traveling is a RIGHT reserved by the people, but the gov't says driving is a PRIVILEGE which is completely contradictary. oh and you know that loan on that house of yours? well get ready for a wake up call. in a year or two, the value of your home won't be worth much more than half the amount of your mortgage. sorry to inform you of the bad news.

[billburns2]

Registration is not a part of ownership, it's a requirement to use the road system.

Traveling is not a right.

oh and if the value of your house falls below the level of your mortgage then that's just the market at work.

[wachman]

I don't know where you got your information, but there have been quite of few rulings that traveling is a right. The states just impose limitations on that right, along with every other right you and I are supposed to have. And I don't think you would be able to get a definite answer on what a registration really is for, but the state could probably make up any excuse they want as long as people go with it and it sounds plausible.

[billburns2]

@wachman

"there have been quite a few rulings that traveling is a right"

Really?  Cite one.

Of course if the Libertarian wet dream of private roads should come to pass your traveling really WILL be limited.

[wachman]

@billburns2

Thompson v. Smith, 154 SE 579

i can name several others, but i think that one says it best.

I disagree with you on that argument. if roads were privatized, i would have much more freedom of choice and better critique on places to live, and places not to live also based on other factors as well. I'm really not sure what you attribute to privatization of roads being more limited but i sure would like to be informed.

[billburns2]

@wachman

Hmm. OK, I'll stand corrected on that point.

The use of highways as a right rather than a privilege sounds like a noble socialist ideal. Well done USA.

If a road is privately owned, the owner can decide who can or can't use it at his discretion. Therefore travel on it becomes a privilege. Doesn't that go AGAINST freedom of travel?

Additionally, what incentive will there be to build and maintain roads in remote rural areas?

[uniquetoafault]

@SSILENTNATION and again i can't necessarily argue that. But if misguided and unfair activism is all we have in NH, well it's better than nothing. And if it's not being done correctly then the ones who say it is so should be out there and doing it better. Also, violating a law that you disagree with is the best way to show your disagreement with it, you have to give it that if nothing else.

[uniquetoafault]

@SSILENTNATION well i can't argue with that. Really, what i'm defending is the premise, the ideals behind wanting to defy local government and big state. Sounds so purposeful and whatnot. I do agree, however that if there were a more calculated, organized body or leadership in this liberty activist group, i suppose they could assume a more intelligent approach to ensure and defend our rights and liberties. But there isn't.

[uniquetoafault]

@SSILENTNATION Now the freestaters may not be organised, and it's certainly arguable to assume they are not doing anything worthwhile, and i do not know about you, but i'd prefer a small liberty activist group to try and not succeed, than not try at all. Fighting for your ideals to make the world you live in a better place, no matter how insignificant to some, is more valiant than any government approved war.

[p00lman]

If you want to "fight to make the world a better place," how about Haiti? I think they need a bit more help than being allowed to smoke pot.

[InfoWarriorMaverick]

p00lman, wow I'm glad you're here again on the forum to provide your comments!!!

You've always got the right answers...

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I mean you're here every time commenting on how thing can be done if we all just listen to you right? I mean you've done a lot of stuff in your part of the world right???

Ohh maybe not... Just a bunch of BS about Korean rock & roll... Don't worry p00lman...

I know you have the right answers and you'll prove that to everyone here right...???

[p00lman]

I'm glad to see you too!

[packrat76]

Question pool. What does dog taste like?

[p00lman]

I don't know. You should find out for yourself.

[packrat76]

I've heard it's quite tasty. Do they can it there? Can you send me some if so? I've always wanted to try it.

[p00lman]

I assume you're talking about Korea. Whether or not people regularly ate dog here in the past, they don't do so anymore.

[packrat76]

Bummer! I hear it's quite tasty and has medicinal value.

[uniquetoafault]

@SSILENTNATION You've made an important assertion regarding the rights and freedoms we DO have, but you seem to have a misconception of your freedom. The only reason you can walk around bare-assed and smoke your marijuana is because of the security of your home, not the legality of it. Rights and liberties are not something that have been handed to us conveniently. We must ensure those rights and liberties do not dwindle due to those who would do so.

[DisintersGroup]

for $60,000 a free stater can go get their own law degree

[fczwartek]

That actually sounds relatively inexpensive. Of course, when your clients pay for your services with baklava it makes it kinda hard to pay back the loans.

[john2knj]

Very interesting idea.

[wachman]

That's pretty obnoxious to just assume he doesn't know what freedoms he has and has not without rhyme or reason. I bet you really think you own your own car and property too. What troubles me most is that you probably have no idea how NOT free you are. But I'm just guessing.

[Pv8man]

@SSILENTNATION

So your answer is, we are free enough already?

We must let any judge and cop take some of our rights because you say that we are more free then other countries???

has it ever occurred to you that we are free BECAUSE we fight for our liberties all the time?

[bronxer78]

Ridley, I love you man, and I fervently support the idea of the Free Staters, but as a law student, outright I can tell you that it'd be a very unusual lawyer who puts his neck into that noose. I mean, when Free Stater go on flipping off judges and what not, then there's little which ANY attorney could do for the Free Staters. Do you follow me here?

[Anothercoilgun]

You know what. I am so sick and tired of seeing a person fight for their fleeting rights and next to them another person get paid as a job to take away those fleeting rights and feel so righteous all the while. So much evil on earth that the possessed completely have no clue they are even possessed.

[fczwartek]

You just described the bloodthirsty backstabbing every-person-for-themselves culture/mentality that I get to experience every day in the corporate world.

Not everyone is gung-ho about embracing that kind of mentality (actually most people aren't), but those who do embrace it advance quickly.

It's not that the possessed "don't know" so much as they don't care.

[fczwartek]

Liberty people are (apparently) more interested in putting on a show in the courtroom than they are at defending themselves.

What is also apparent from many of the videos on here, as well as the responses, is that a lot of libertarians don't consider court proceedings to be legitimate.

What could a lawyer do for the Kurt Hoffmann's of the world except to tell them to sit down and shut up?

What is the point of having a lawyer if you intend to go to jail?

[p00lman]

They're paranoid and don't trust anyone in government. Therefore, they don't accept any government court system as being legitimate.

They're just children who don't want to play by the rules, but really have no alternative but to fall in line, especially once the cuffs are on.

[wachman]

@p00lman

Do us all a favor and don't post any more comments until you have watched Michael Badnarik's Constitution Class. I mean ALL of it. not just one video. You will be floored.

[p00lman]

Yes, I'm sure one person's videos will change my life. Are you free staters that impressionable?

[uniquetoafault]

@p00lman I'm not a freestater, nor am i that impressionable. you are 0 for 2.

[p00lman]

Congratulations?

[freestatereport]

awesome. maybe he could set up a subscription service.

[DeraJa]

wow interesting development