TMUF is the most popular game in the world. Also celebrating their 1-year anniversary. They have 7 envirroments from different games: Desert, Rally, Snow, Island, Bay, Coast and Stadium. Its all about speed in this game.
I was planning to torrent this game, but afterwards I decided that torrenting this game will ruin the fun of getting and playing Trackmania. That was 1 year ago and I still don't have this game : (
Got a Problem with this game i bought it and ive installed it. then i start the game all the settings comes up(play) (configuer) (help). then i press play and it starts lowding. the it suddenly stops and nothing is hapening. is it because i use windows 7 ultimate 64 bit or what is the probblem any1 knows please tell me :)// got the same problem with the TM Nations 4ever Demo
@newtwoable it isn't the same, thats nations forever, that game doesnt have all the cars and the enviromments, only stadium with F1s, just to be free, that is
@SLRMC93 it isn't the same, thats nations forever, that game doesnt have all the cars and the enviromments, only stadium with F1s, just to be free, that is
Buy this for steam or not for steam? I have nations forever on steam and it keep telling me i cant make servers coz im on a local network... But the "normal" version works fine.
Love the concept, but enviroment feels meh.. It should be more futuristic, same with the cars. I'm not bashing, it just feels odd using every day cars for this shit.
@micolil Hmm...you could try EBay...I think you can get it off of there for about 8 bucks American. And it's from a reputable source. That's where I got my copy...then freely legally upgrade your game to TMUF and I'll see you on the track! ^_^
God, torrents are NOT illegal, how do people get that idea. What people use torrents for can be illegal but not the torrents itself.
Well i bought TMUF recently after playing TMN and TMNF for about ... ehm ...3 years I guess. Took time to convince me... haha XD. What I most like are coast tracks - you really need some self-control to hold back your gas pedal foot...erm...finger :D
A few days ago President Obama said that he was working to make ALL SOFTWARE including games affordable for everyone! He said that just because a kid's parents can't afford the latest and greatest games, that shouldn't preclude that kid from being able to play the same games that the 'rich kids' are playing. He said the same goes for educational software. He said that his admin. was not going to allow further prosecution of so called 'piracy' of software if the people involved are poor.
Please note that BitTorrent is not inherently illegal. It is even used to update the MMORPG World of Warcraft. It's just when you put up something without the permission of the copyright owner (for example, a torrent of TrackMania United) that you are breaking the law.
P.S. If you download TrackMania United from a torrent or any other unofficial source, you will NOT be able to play online.
@ZiggyR2750 If you own United already, let it be United vanilla or United Forever, you can get the star update for free. I bought United vanilla and with updates now I have United Forever Star edition...
I don't remember it being $40 on Steam but, still deserves the money it gets.
@noni15081998 Torrents are small files and using a Torrent client, downloads data making a larger file.
People use these files to bypass paying for the games that they want, and doing so is illegal. Torrenting is fine as long as the thing they're downloading is already free or abandonware.
What is the use of a torrent link if you can't play it online without a online-key? And BTW: There is a free version named Trackmania Nations Forever - online playable. It is totaly free of charge. But you only can play the stadion, you know the indy-F1-buggy-mixed-cars.
loser torrents are illegal cops wil coome running to ur house and kill u plus u cant play online download TMNF if u want but it only gives u stadium and 1 car with few skins
for all who dont know to buy it or not: you HAVE to buy this game! even if you use the free version with only stadium, the other environments are also great ! and you help focus to creat more stuff for tmuf xD
you can, but i think you should buy it on amazon or in your next gamesshop. it only costs 25 dollars i think^^ (here in germany you can buy it for 18 euro)
what is the point of this game? is it online? its cool and everything but it looks like it can get boring after a while if you know what i mean. im not tryin to be a hater or anything.
"well THAT and the TRACKBUILDER!?!?" the trackbuilder is the coolest thing in there , you use creativity etc and make a kickass track , and race it then go brag with it in online.. watch Tensai Racer so you could get a hint.
Heh sorry, I wrote this before I started to really have fun with the track builder. Before I was just making stupid little test tracks and have just started to really build some fun tracks and now I also think it's one of the best parts if not the best part of the game
where can i download tm united (not united forever) for free..... please send me a link and please no trial version. please send me an ANSWER not a normal post .. an answer please.
I have this game on a CD, I was lucky to find it in Wal-mart though, since I live in Canada it's very rarely you find a copy of this game in stores, after getting there one, only copy, I upgraded for free to United Forever, I love this game!!!
United is a high step up from nations, peer to peer (people can see your car customizations) and new tracks plus for you NFS fans yes they even have drift servers...
I'm looking for the most immersive, fast and beautiful trackmania. Got some good configuration, dual core processor with 384mo graphic chipset + 1gb ram.
TMUF is the most popular game in the world. Also celebrating their 1-year anniversary. They have 7 envirroments from different games: Desert, Rally, Snow, Island, Bay, Coast and Stadium. Its all about speed in this game.
TrackmaniaStudios 1 month ago
what was the point of united forever?
alienjoe123 2 months ago
@alienjoe123 get 5 moar environments (places to build and different blocks) also by modding u can drive stadium cars anywhere
Phenom69ll 2 days ago
awesome!
MrLpg98 3 months ago
18 people don't know how to drive
dragonfire4hotwheels 5 months ago
now trackmania united forever is super cool
sasukeucihai 6 months ago
TRACKMANIA UNITED IS THE BEST!!!!
vovapered 6 months ago
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HEYS! check out my tracks OTEY??
P90Recordz 7 months ago
that sounded like the CnC Generals theme song sped up
gkcl1 7 months ago
I download my racing games, Trackmania is the only one game where I actually went to the store and purchased !!
fernandesbrandon1 8 months ago
When comes Trackmania 2 Canyon?
TheStyler2710 8 months ago
I was planning to torrent this game, but afterwards I decided that torrenting this game will ruin the fun of getting and playing Trackmania. That was 1 year ago and I still don't have this game : (
At least there's Nations, which is free.
DestinedFateX 9 months ago
@DestinedFateX There's a special for Track Mania United Forever on Steam right now. Only $10 until noon or 1 PM I think.
Radwar99 8 months ago
@Radwar99 I had to go to school, and I missed the Event : (
DestinedFateX 8 months ago
@Radwar99 I just found out the moment it ended, too.
DestinedFateX 8 months ago
I torrented this.
And sent it to all my friends at school.
Well, more like everyone at school.
haha
PizzaMamman 9 months ago
@PizzaMamman hero.
Reiben91 6 months ago
@Reiben91
thanks
PizzaMamman 6 months ago
my mind was blown when i first saw this
L00ney2665 9 months ago
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lol your all dumb
xploshun1337 10 months ago
where do you find this torrent because i can't find it anywhere?
ninjaygo 10 months ago
@ninjaygo download the free version off the website (ISNT THAT ENOUGH FOR YOU PEOPLE)
IamtheWV17 10 months ago
@IamtheWV17 thats nations not united and united forever is just an upgrade to united
ninjaygo 10 months ago
@ninjaygo so what its still fun i lived with it for ages til i got united! stop wanting more than you can afford you'll have a better life that way!
IamtheWV17 10 months ago
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Simon12PL 11 months ago
@GameMaker8Tutorial sigh, ok, keep tellin urself that
Timo8071 11 months ago
@Kirbyguy222
everything about DOWNLOAD is illegal
.....but who care's???
Ov3rloadBG 11 months ago
in brazil u could find this game by R$ 15,90 (around 9,50 dollars in feb/2011)
but it is expired now.
i downloaded by torrent. :P
Jujudesjp 11 months ago
@Jujudesjp But downloading the game you cant play the environments
pizza571 11 months ago
@pizza571 yes you can if you delete Trackmania folder and make offline account
josipbabok2 11 months ago
BTW - 90% of all torrents in the world is virus, and people who wants your money.
Giving out free software to you, is like a stranger gives a little boy candy :(
GameMaker8Tutorial 1 year ago
@GameMaker8Tutorial thats wrong man, ive downloaded hundreds of torrents and never got a virus, either im really lucky or youre just lying
colpictures 1 year ago
@GameMaker8Tutorial umm ya, A)most torrents dont have viruses
B) torrents are FREE, that is the point of them, how can that be some1's way of stealing our money?
Timo8071 11 months ago
@Timo8071 That's what they want people to think ..
GameMaker8Tutorial 11 months ago
The game is free now :)
rodisnothere 1 year ago
Man, I wish I could create a game like this! My future is to be an animator and a producer!
15Deonjr 1 year ago
Mein neuer Server --> Berlin --> "CrasyManiaServer" Join: tmtp://#join=stb72
200DVD 1 year ago
Yeah
tishonek 1 year ago
Got a Problem with this game i bought it and ive installed it. then i start the game all the settings comes up(play) (configuer) (help). then i press play and it starts lowding. the it suddenly stops and nothing is hapening. is it because i use windows 7 ultimate 64 bit or what is the probblem any1 knows please tell me :)// got the same problem with the TM Nations 4ever Demo
Rossi46Woho 1 year ago
@Kirbyguy222 This game is for free you can download it from track mania's official website
tishonek 1 year ago
@tishonek TrackMania United Forever is free? With all environments you see in this video? Have you even tried it?
11tonius 1 year ago
that is a olimpic style trailer :D
Billy1RBstudios 1 year ago
now THIS is a racing game
mcKallzor 1 year ago
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BEST GAME EVA!
JSSJR90 1 year ago
I have the original =) the best puzzle car game of all imes, its a great and big community =)
kriacaoverbal 1 year ago
go to the home page, there you can download tm united ;)
newtwoable 1 year ago
@newtwoable it isn't the same, thats nations forever, that game doesnt have all the cars and the enviromments, only stadium with F1s, just to be free, that is
radboyPT 1 year ago
I'm soooo happy now you can download this free at trackmania's website!
SLRMC93 1 year ago
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@SLRMC93 it isn't the same, thats nations forever, that game doesnt have all the cars and the enviromments, only stadium with F1s, just to be free, that is
radboyPT 1 year ago
Buy this for steam or not for steam? I have nations forever on steam and it keep telling me i cant make servers coz im on a local network... But the "normal" version works fine.
frankytap 1 year ago
where i can download with cars
TDIpow3r 1 year ago
where i can download with cars
TDIpow3r 1 year ago
Love the concept, but enviroment feels meh.. It should be more futuristic, same with the cars. I'm not bashing, it just feels odd using every day cars for this shit.
TakeOnNE1 1 year ago
What's the difference between Tm United and Tm United Forever? All i can see is a huge price difference.
Cheers in advance (Private Message would be very helpful)
Stoatsta 1 year ago
@Stoatsta
You can just buy TM United then upgrade. It's worth it if you don't wanna pay more.
Kirbyguy222 1 year ago
@Kirbyguy222 cheers mate, where could i get the upgrade if i wish to get it?
Stoatsta 1 year ago
@Stoatsta You can get it on the Official site, download may take a while though. :)
Kirbyguy222 1 year ago
awesome trailer! wow best game ever! play it every day for at least 2 hours
Dcomicboyisback 1 year ago
I want to have the best game
MrRabar303 1 year ago 2
This trailer is awesome in HD
simon4000dk 1 year ago 2
Stadium= US, Atlanta Raceways
Island= US, Hawaii
Desert= US, Texas
Bay= US ,Las Vegas
Rally= Canada, Cloverdale
Coast= US, San Diego
Snow= Japan, Osaka
Correct me if I'm wrong, anyways...Best Racing Game EVA!
pixo45 2 years ago 2
x Osaka
o Kyoto or North China
Irewill13 1 year ago
lol but trackmania nations forever is legal download cause its a free online game
Sili040404040404040 2 years ago 4
who can give me a DL link of this game in asia...
if i dl from US servers it takes too long
micolil 2 years ago
@micolil Hmm...you could try EBay...I think you can get it off of there for about 8 bucks American. And it's from a reputable source. That's where I got my copy...then freely legally upgrade your game to TMUF and I'll see you on the track! ^_^
LirrenShentai 2 years ago
i dont like spending on oGs X.x
in ph almost all OGs are f2p
micolil 2 years ago
@micolil u r right im in ph too =P
awezomanator 2 years ago
this is the worlds best game. ever
alloriafan 2 years ago 68
Not surprised :D
hugothenerd 2 years ago
comment tu mets la vue sur toi pendant la video et comment tu mets les bagnole derriere ? et le debut de ta video comment tu fais sa xD ?
XxxxxxXDyyDyyxxxxxX 2 years ago
bought it today on steam...cant wait to play it :)
webbieNL 2 years ago
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TheTrackManiac 2 years ago
can some1 tell write torrent link for this game that works plz....
kasiic911 2 years ago
You can download a version of this game, Trackmania Nations Forever, for free on Steam.
Budster650 2 years ago 5
Torrents are illegal.
Buy it.
Kirbyguy222 2 years ago 49
ohrly
LostJak 2 years ago
wow who cares
TF2Pyrosux 2 years ago
God, torrents are NOT illegal, how do people get that idea. What people use torrents for can be illegal but not the torrents itself.
Well i bought TMUF recently after playing TMN and TMNF for about ... ehm ...3 years I guess. Took time to convince me... haha XD. What I most like are coast tracks - you really need some self-control to hold back your gas pedal foot...erm...finger :D
d1oftwins 2 years ago
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Torrents are about as illegal as a glass of milk.
-1 internet
Sutskoen 2 years ago
I mean downloading games that you haven't paid for is illegal, 'cause that's piracy. Amirite? (unless it's already free...)
Kirbyguy222 2 years ago
Piracy would be illegal, yes.
Torrents are just an item, like a car or a baseball bat, which by previous logic, are all illegal ^^
Sutskoen 2 years ago
A few days ago President Obama said that he was working to make ALL SOFTWARE including games affordable for everyone! He said that just because a kid's parents can't afford the latest and greatest games, that shouldn't preclude that kid from being able to play the same games that the 'rich kids' are playing. He said the same goes for educational software. He said that his admin. was not going to allow further prosecution of so called 'piracy' of software if the people involved are poor.
trueNECH 2 years ago
@Kirbyguy222
buying shit is for people without an internet connection.
mmhmmlala 1 year ago
@Kirbyguy222 -.- exist 2 version the first is free and legal -.-""""
xxArtiom 1 year ago
Kirbyguy222 said:
"Torrents are illagal. Buy it."
Please note that BitTorrent is not inherently illegal. It is even used to update the MMORPG World of Warcraft. It's just when you put up something without the permission of the copyright owner (for example, a torrent of TrackMania United) that you are breaking the law.
P.S. If you download TrackMania United from a torrent or any other unofficial source, you will NOT be able to play online.
soundspark 1 year ago
@Kirbyguy222 no one's that stupid to buy it :D
domkovi 1 year ago
@domkovi Ok, have fun not being able to play online
Kirbyguy222 1 year ago
@Kirbyguy222 why would you buy a game thats free thats just wasting money
its free on the official site
fresh12129 1 year ago
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@fresh12129 united is not free, idiot. Nations is. Not United. How can people be this stupid?
Kirbyguy222 1 year ago
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Kirbyguy222 1 year ago
@fresh12129 TrackMania United Forever IS NOT FREE. TrackMania NATIONS Forever is, but that doesn't have all the great stuff you have in United.
11tonius 1 year ago
@Kirbyguy222 I got this (torrented)and I can play online.
domkovi 1 year ago
@domkovi game deserves any money it gets.
Seriously buy it, $20 or probably not even that, is NOTHING for this game.
degreenfreak 1 year ago
@degreenfreak The Star eddition is only $20 more, and deffinately worth it.
It's avalaile through steam.
ZiggyR2750 1 year ago
@ZiggyR2750 If you own United already, let it be United vanilla or United Forever, you can get the star update for free. I bought United vanilla and with updates now I have United Forever Star edition...
I don't remember it being $40 on Steam but, still deserves the money it gets.
degreenfreak 1 year ago
@degreenfreak I appear to have the united forever version.
/app/7200/
ZiggyR2750 1 year ago
@domkovi Pwned. You can't play online if you haven't bought it.
11tonius 1 year ago
@Kirbyguy222 What are Torrents? Why are Torrents illegal when something is with money?
noni15081998 1 year ago
@noni15081998 Torrents are small files and using a Torrent client, downloads data making a larger file.
People use these files to bypass paying for the games that they want, and doing so is illegal. Torrenting is fine as long as the thing they're downloading is already free or abandonware.
Kirbyguy222 1 year ago
@Kirbyguy222 so sad
jjbanton360 11 months ago
@Kirbyguy222 and besides theres a free download version (yes less awesome) but srsly if you want to get a good game free get the free version
IamtheWV17 10 months ago
@Kirbyguy222
I think If you get the upload limit speed on 0 B/s it's legal.
2nadalfederer1 10 months ago
@Kirbyguy222 buying is stupid, torrent it
Reiben91 6 months ago
What is the use of a torrent link if you can't play it online without a online-key? And BTW: There is a free version named Trackmania Nations Forever - online playable. It is totaly free of charge. But you only can play the stadion, you know the indy-F1-buggy-mixed-cars.
d1oftwins 2 years ago
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loser torrents are illegal cops wil coome running to ur house and kill u plus u cant play online download TMNF if u want but it only gives u stadium and 1 car with few skins
WWWBlacKBirDWWW 2 years ago
where could i buy this game??????
SIKRIBBZ 2 years ago
for all who dont know to buy it or not: you HAVE to buy this game! even if you use the free version with only stadium, the other environments are also great ! and you help focus to creat more stuff for tmuf xD
NemisisGanda 2 years ago
can i buy this game online then?
diskjocker121 2 years ago
you can, but i think you should buy it on amazon or in your next gamesshop. it only costs 25 dollars i think^^ (here in germany you can buy it for 18 euro)
NemisisGanda 2 years ago
well.... u can try to get the torrent but i didn't find anyone that works...
TheLegendOfMySelf 2 years ago
torrent? you need a key to play :/
NemisisGanda 2 years ago
but it comes with the torrent or u can search it in the net, u wont be able to play online but it will be for free (if it works).
TheLegendOfMySelf 2 years ago
It's free on steam :D
h0ll1s 2 years ago
I love the Mt o_0
ChineoTan 2 years ago
one question ( video great) but my question is where I get musics like this for coll vids, I don't know what to do.
GermanSick95 2 years ago
did anyone notice on the billboards and stuff it shows video from other enviroments?
carrot1337 2 years ago
buy a new graphic card and change your keyboard
Archonch 2 years ago
HELP!!! i got the game but it sayes that i don't have a graphic card (with i have becouse i play tmn) xD
TheLegendOfMySelf 2 years ago
0:25-0:26
No, too broing...
carrot1337 2 years ago
muito da hora :D
Paullorsxwwe 2 years ago
Ok, nun kauf ich mir das Game
Tiver111 2 years ago
super gra ;D
mistrz0071 2 years ago
Best car game ever!It has logic,speed,mazes and an epic track creator!
thepoke3000 2 years ago 3
i know...luv the editor
carrot1337 2 years ago
I'm on TOP 50 in the world :P I'm Better
TurkishStyle44 2 years ago
Im the top player im better then you lol.... jk
war77inc 2 years ago
I'm on top 7000 of the world....
ScorpionNani 2 years ago
this game is AWSOME, exept i dont like that part how it jumps up in the water but still AWSOME!!!
martinganev89 2 years ago
for looking best is island , for play best is desert ^^
Demonidias 2 years ago
what is the point of this game? is it online? its cool and everything but it looks like it can get boring after a while if you know what i mean. im not tryin to be a hater or anything.
ttechnumber1 3 years ago
Yeah, it's online that's the main draw of the game. Well that and the track builder that the game has. It's actually a pretty fun game
striderdan 3 years ago
"well THAT and the TRACKBUILDER!?!?" the trackbuilder is the coolest thing in there , you use creativity etc and make a kickass track , and race it then go brag with it in online.. watch Tensai Racer so you could get a hint.
tsneh 2 years ago
Heh sorry, I wrote this before I started to really have fun with the track builder. Before I was just making stupid little test tracks and have just started to really build some fun tracks and now I also think it's one of the best parts if not the best part of the game
striderdan 2 years ago
Theres one thing I still dont get. Whats new in United that I cant get in Nations?
stevoisiak 3 years ago
in Nations, you only get one Environment: Stadium. In United you get 7. Also there are loads of other features. Look it up at Trackmania . com
engandautclan 3 years ago
how can you get it free???
gttc321 3 years ago
You can't get it free. Only as a Demo.
ProfiStunts08 3 years ago
nations version is available free, google it ;)
Adunakhar 3 years ago
lol you cant
tevronwizdom 3 years ago
i love this game
hunhunter007 3 years ago 2
They have a leeeeetle bit too much Stadium in there. They should be focusing on the rest, which only get about 3 clips each.
dreadofmondays 3 years ago
probably cause its the best?
Flo673 3 years ago
yeah... no.
stadium is too overplayed...
Anzyviorthh 3 years ago
where can i download tm united (not united forever) for free..... please send me a link and please no trial version. please send me an ANSWER not a normal post .. an answer please.
PG92lol 3 years ago
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fuck u
WWWBlacKBirDWWW 2 years ago
i want this game
Veowe3 3 years ago
i have that game to
Marcus60661 3 years ago
I have this game on a CD, I was lucky to find it in Wal-mart though, since I live in Canada it's very rarely you find a copy of this game in stores, after getting there one, only copy, I upgraded for free to United Forever, I love this game!!!
mikemichaelmic 3 years ago 2
I Bought this today been playing it all morning I'd recommend it too anyone its great and unique racing game!
rizextoxblaze 3 years ago
I have TMS,TMN,TMU,TMF,TMNF and TMUF.All i need is TrackMania and TMO and my entire TrackMania collection will be complete!
MetaknightFanboy21 3 years ago 3
You'll also have to get Trackmania DS
trolatrolatrola 3 years ago 6
N00B!!!!
Dunhilion 3 years ago
whats your problem Dunhilion?
all i said i had a collection you rtard.
MetaknightFanboy21 3 years ago
the sunrise trailer is major pwnage, nadeo failed this one
littlejay123 3 years ago 7
can u actually have contact in this version?
kkkkaran 3 years ago
United is a high step up from nations, peer to peer (people can see your car customizations) and new tracks plus for you NFS fans yes they even have drift servers...
nigwaandahalf 3 years ago
can u play online on this game?
botuts 3 years ago
of course. you'll find plenty of custom tracks and stuff on all the servers.
UnboundVolts 3 years ago
AWESOME
g4dS 3 years ago
I'd download it, but it takes up too much memory.
Ouendanman64 3 years ago
con el steam!! asi juegas on line y nada que consume tu memoria de la pc.. vale la pena!!
buffyx22 3 years ago
I have crap onboard graphics, and even I can run this game.
Now that is what I call good game design.
stoatmax 3 years ago
Muito bom Ta de parabes a TmNationsESWCLauncher
felipeoliveira008 3 years ago
Muito bom Ta de parabes a TmNationsESWCLauncher
felipeoliveira008 3 years ago
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erikbokk99 3 years ago
I loved Sunrise when I bought it. Now when I bought United .. Sunrise seems so distant. TMU rocks damn hard.
Karlozkiller 3 years ago 2
can you drive through each other on this 1
myPETsnailFRED 3 years ago
yeh if u gt the subscription version or 20 us dollers for forever but f2p isnt online
ratssniff 3 years ago
gotta have a good Graphics card i sware
rizextoxblaze 3 years ago
even a nvidia tnt2 does its job on this game! XD
8B6EB8 3 years ago
its only stadium and island that its fun in this game
wemfO 4 years ago
and bay and desert and snow
8B6EB8 3 years ago 2
in my opinion.. untited is way better than sunrise... but i play trackmania nations on the moment so i wont care..
lordoflinerider 4 years ago 2
Whoo, sa déchire, Vive Trackmania !!!
guiguidu60 4 years ago
is it better than Trackmania Sunrise ?
I'm looking for the most immersive, fast and beautiful trackmania. Got some good configuration, dual core processor with 384mo graphic chipset + 1gb ram.
krouton 4 years ago
I think tmu has sunrise in so._.
AehBeeSea 4 years ago
It contains all previous Trackmania versions, so Sunrise as well. It's a damn good game I can really recommend it if you like the series
davejuh 4 years ago 3
go: TM Sunrise gravity in the end
terrano5 4 years ago
Fuck you asshole,just stop that fucking TM sunrise gravity in the end!!! :(
TrackMania12 4 years ago
why can we play trackmania united only on pc?
i can`t play it on my pc :(
Mewhacker 4 years ago 2
And if you upgraded your PC with the money you wasted on a console, you could play it? Common, stupid question.
kyleNI 3 years ago 2