I have the latest version and menus are a bit different but it won't let me open up ANYTHING under title - bloody frustrating as have been trying all night to find a way to get a VCL file to Dvd & thought I'd cracke dit with this. Anyone got any other ideas please.
This used to work, but all the new versions of VLC player from 0.99 onwards cant rip dvds any more, and if it does work then the author of this video needs to come out straight and say so or give a tutorial on it, so like i said if you want to rip dvd movies and break the copy protection you MUST use an old version of VLC player, my version is 0.86e and it works perfectly
You should make a new tutorial on how to rip a DVD because the new version of VLC 1.1.1 has a new interface. Many of the switches and buttons have been moved to different locations in the programs
I have ripped a few dvd's to save to my computer using vlc because it bypasses region coding but the vids although totally watchable are a tad frame ratey,how can I up the fps?
hey i have a windows xp but idk which vlc software type to use and i also wanted to know which vlc software are you using so it makes it easyer for me to follow along with the video
Im trying to rip band of brothers but there is a main menu to select which episode you want there are 2 episodes per disk and it ripped the menu how do i rip just the movie???
every time i try to recreate what you did, my video is not synchronised with the audio, and i tried to do that manualy, but doesnt work, it gets worst as the movie advances.
Some of the videos I have stop burning after the first chapter of the DVD. Is that part of their security or am I doing something wrong? Please advise
pls can u tell me, i hav saved dvd movies to my hard disk computer as it is in dvd like including all files(menu, subtitle ete) about 4.3 GB. now i want to convert that dvd files from my hard disk to DVDrip for about 700mb or 1400mb. so tell me d solution. i hav so many DVD movies in my comp, it takes huge space like for 10 movies require 50GB. i want it in 8-10 GB. i hope u'll give me d solution. thank u very much.
I have a vob file thats 4.09gb in size..Its a concert and the audio is out of sync with the picture..Now with vlc i can synchronize it together so that the audio is in sync with the picture.
So is there any way that i can save the synchronized files and burn them onto a dvd ?
And if i could keep the file as a vob and not have to change it to divx or meg4 it would be great.
It looks like it works.... but it's on track to take at least 3 hours to rip... and I can just HOPE I did everything the righ way, cuz would be really frustrated to wait 3 hours and only have audio/video =(
Don't do this, click this instead of that, take the green pill not the blue pill, turn it sideways, download it, but not if there is a picture of a purple dog on the screen..........
seriously, why is it so hard to find a simple dvd ripping program, you know, one that is easy, insert dvd, click rip, go play a game, come back later, put it in a file you want, watch, enjoy.....
@KingNuada1 You wrote this a year ago but man do i feel the same way you do! It seems like every time you want to do something on a computer you have to learn one thing but then in order to do that u have to learn something else & then well you have to know how to do that & if come to a part and you have 2 options to choose from then you have to search what dht or mpeg 1 actually is in order to know which one you want & by the time your done you can't remember what u started in the first place!
What version of VLC is this? I just downloaded it and it looks different. It doesn't even have the same save/stream button. The version I have says 1.0.1 Goldeneye and it says I'm using the QT4 Interface. does that have anything to do with it? Please help.
i loveVLC its the shit much better for videos plays all Formats with out asking for updates 24/7 i recomend for all beginners and users who know how to use a pc 10/10
ehem, Vlc media player is MUCH better that the ordinary windowsplayer, i am using the VLC mediaplayer and i am loveing it... i am not sure about the ripp on the program but if u r useing the program to ripp u dont need to download some others-- lol, i hope u understand and happy ripping....
Its pretty simple. In order to use a program you kinda have to have it installed on your computer. If its not already installed on your computer you might be able to DOWNLOAD it from the internet. If you know what idk means and what the internet is, you should know that your supposed to download a program before you can use it as well :O
-_- look, im srry. it was a stupid fucking question. i just kinda thought it might be 1 of those fucking programs that u have on ur comp when u get it like windows media player and stuff
Every time I do it I only get AUDIO !! could you tell me what I'm doing wrong, cause I'm doing it just like you on the vid and i have the same VLC version
holy shit i never knew that cud rip movies dude...i been using VLC for yeaaaaaaaaaaars and never knew it cud do that. >=O
u shud upgrade to the newer one it has more menus.... and a better osd. I knw some ppl favour the older ones for speed or something but the newer version is good man. I had to select DirectX 3D on Vista to stop it from switing vista themes... take care all. :)
sir, i have download video songs throw to the real player 11 downloding button in youtube last five days after i download the video file format is FLV and SWF but they are not playing in window media player 11 in xp-sp2 a massage is displayed {Windows Media Player cannot play the file} the windows error is You've encountered error message C00D1199 while using Windows Media Player. Please help me out
great advice I couldn't get this thing to work otherwise, lol not even the same version. I did get a little motion sick from it moving around like that.
I have the latest version and menus are a bit different but it won't let me open up ANYTHING under title - bloody frustrating as have been trying all night to find a way to get a VCL file to Dvd & thought I'd cracke dit with this. Anyone got any other ideas please.
hearsay58 1 week ago
Ripping a DVD is legal if you're using it yourself or for fair use purposes.
jjovereats 2 weeks ago
THANK YOU!
but what if i just copy that 1 file im about to rip from the dvd?
wouldn't that be faster?
inceptionisification 1 month ago
This used to work, but all the new versions of VLC player from 0.99 onwards cant rip dvds any more, and if it does work then the author of this video needs to come out straight and say so or give a tutorial on it, so like i said if you want to rip dvd movies and break the copy protection you MUST use an old version of VLC player, my version is 0.86e and it works perfectly
greekgod41 1 month ago
good vid thanks for posting it.
killerimport 1 month ago
vlc player now looks differnt there is NO file tab- just media and now i have NO idea how to do it...
ShootPianist 2 months ago
You should make a new tutorial on how to rip a DVD because the new version of VLC 1.1.1 has a new interface. Many of the switches and buttons have been moved to different locations in the programs
montgal52 2 months ago
THANKYOU!!! worked great and I dont know any thing about computers lol!
DULCEAMOR80 2 months ago
Does this work with drm protected movies?
XFXC595 3 months ago
I can't get it to play DVD's only CD's. Where do I get help.
SuperSongdreamer 4 months ago
What would you put the settings to if you were ripping a dvd for playback on your psp? anyone know?
themildlyepicartist 4 months ago
thanks man )))
gab007ification 4 months ago
does this make the movie high quality? good sound? thanks
MrGhero96 5 months ago
I ripped a video the same way you did but when i went to watch it, the audio cut out about half way through the movie, any idea why?
gpetro1120 5 months ago
I have ripped a few dvd's to save to my computer using vlc because it bypasses region coding but the vids although totally watchable are a tad frame ratey,how can I up the fps?
godzillaisnuclea123 5 months ago
ya which vlc software are you using jimmyrcom because the vlc I downloaded didnt look like yours. Thanks oceanbear for pointing that out
refreshandstop 6 months ago
hey i have a windows xp but idk which vlc software type to use and i also wanted to know which vlc software are you using so it makes it easyer for me to follow along with the video
oceanbear321 6 months ago
how large was the file size for that movie? do you know what way to get a normal movie to around 3 or 400 MB?
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petelabeat 9 months ago
simply the best
plsartorio22 9 months ago
Thanks Bro! :) Happy Easter!
walkie1478 9 months ago
Im trying to rip band of brothers but there is a main menu to select which episode you want there are 2 episodes per disk and it ripped the menu how do i rip just the movie???
Marine0148 9 months ago
Thanks man! This really helped!
HerrGinger 9 months ago
your tutorials are actually pretty well done.
penguincontact 10 months ago
hi there its not working :(
mizzishukaur 10 months ago
latest version with updated instructions included here - shortme.ws/1/downloadVLC - good luck!
joaquinmclean138 11 months ago 10
how do you get that tool bar up at the beginning?
wizzkid117 1 year ago
You can also use it to rip dvd menus too.
Brandondorf9999 1 year ago
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YouTubDownloading 1 year ago
Thanks so much, worked great for me, now I have Transformers, Wall-e, and Pirates of the Caribbean 1 & 2 on my iTunes!
(MP4 is iTunes format)
1TheStuffChannel1 1 year ago
how do i edit and upload to youtube from vlc?
stew07111 1 year ago
okay. now how do i edit the dvd i just ripped then upload from vlc to youtube?
stew07111 1 year ago
every time i try to recreate what you did, my video is not synchronised with the audio, and i tried to do that manualy, but doesnt work, it gets worst as the movie advances.
any idea what can i do?
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AdriaKadence 1 year ago
This is totally outdated. The new version are completely different.
Tvjunkieful12 1 year ago
hell ya yo ty you A lott
loomis606 1 year ago
Some of the videos I have stop burning after the first chapter of the DVD. Is that part of their security or am I doing something wrong? Please advise
camin37 1 year ago
For the newest version, click:
"Media" then "Convert / Save"
And then follow the rest of the video ;)
zxxtra 1 year ago 4
THANKS ALOT!!!! It's Working!!!
I needed this SO bad!
allandall1 1 year ago
oh man. so glad i found this.
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antxonizarra 1 year ago
thanks mate easy to follow
antxonizarra 1 year ago
Awwww thank you so much!!!! i did it with the latest version and it worked perfectly for me hehe :D thanks!!!
Lozzeii 1 year ago
you want vlc 0.8.6i they seem to have silently removed this feature from vlc in more recent versions
cowbellcowbell 1 year ago
@cowbellcowbell they didnt remove it. you just have to now select media, and then open cd. then proceed as the video shows
paragon2389 1 year ago
it only works on the menu screen, it can't rip the actual movie part. .-.
shadowcelibi 1 year ago
@shadowcelibi choose no menus
agl1997 1 year ago
sweet man i hope you read this you got i new sub thanks cheers
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sepehrsb 1 year ago
I dont know how to record a scene from one of my home videos and save it to my pc and then put it on youtuber can you help please
xlank04 1 year ago
pls can u tell me, i hav saved dvd movies to my hard disk computer as it is in dvd like including all files(menu, subtitle ete) about 4.3 GB. now i want to convert that dvd files from my hard disk to DVDrip for about 700mb or 1400mb. so tell me d solution. i hav so many DVD movies in my comp, it takes huge space like for 10 movies require 50GB. i want it in 8-10 GB. i hope u'll give me d solution. thank u very much.
anandnkumar 1 year ago
can thiese dvds go to ur ipod?
LordOfTheSith66 1 year ago
handbrake is faster
CellularProductions 1 year ago
garrie, it's the same with the latest... finally got this working, where other "free/brake" options would always crash!
I now have my latest recent dvd purchases on my super-smart-phone, yay! Thanks OP for posting this, I had VLC, but never realized it could do this!
deviantspeed 1 year ago
Can someone help me out here ??
I have a vob file thats 4.09gb in size..Its a concert and the audio is out of sync with the picture..Now with vlc i can synchronize it together so that the audio is in sync with the picture.
So is there any way that i can save the synchronized files and burn them onto a dvd ?
And if i could keep the file as a vob and not have to change it to divx or meg4 it would be great.
Chromeboy2003 1 year ago
It looks like it works.... but it's on track to take at least 3 hours to rip... and I can just HOPE I did everything the righ way, cuz would be really frustrated to wait 3 hours and only have audio/video =(
torbenbraga 1 year ago
What if your VLC
player tells you it cannot open your disc?How do you get it to work then?
TomRoykouffVideos 1 year ago
Only ripped the audio for me, do you know what i'm doing wrong?
Heidi0012 1 year ago
convertX for my pc (intel 3Ghz 1 gb ram 64bit) makes about 45minutes
can you please give some clues as to how long it takes to rip a dvd compared to your machine specs?
paparas78 1 year ago
I LOOOVE YOU!
*Subbed*
dillerjoonees 1 year ago
i really love you man thanks but write in the description that everybody who want rip dvds the old vlc version need
johannes0weniger 1 year ago
Got it. For Videocodec I used MP4 verses DIV3 and it worked.
tmhodge01 1 year ago
it only copied the audio files for me.
tmhodge01 1 year ago
thanks dude
moomooit5 1 year ago
my VLC dosent have File on the toolbar
bodibordaj 1 year ago 3
mine said Errors The following errors occourred.
Unable to open 'dvdsimple://E:'
Unable to open 'dvdsimple://E:'
Unable to open 'dvdsimple://E:'
Unable to open 'dvdsimple://E:@1'
Unable to open 'dvdsimple://E:@5'
Unable to open 'dvdsimple://E:@5'
tommeyorange1996 1 year ago
The interface for this totally changed for 1.0.x versions.
Nightowl358 1 year ago
Fuck! This doesn't work. It ripped audio but not the video. I have 0.8.6c.
muluukkunen 2 years ago
didnt work :L
LuvMaDogProductions 2 years ago
It doesn't work on newer versions, at least not in the same way. To follow the instructions in the video get an older release of vlc. I have 0.8.6d.
jbahome 2 years ago
did not rip for me
minyong524 2 years ago 10
@minyong524 You might be trying to rip an protected DVD, certain DVD's won't rip because they are encrypted.
homsarshat 1 year ago
Thanks, most helpful vid yet, and I already have the player
Setherlast 2 years ago
this better work dude... coz im downloading vlc.
cheers for the vid. if it dont work i will have to kill you!! haha jks :)
ive been looking for an easyish dvd ripper for ages lol
somesuperandomperson 2 years ago
now im getting a message that its not working due to the coding wat do i do
tigger9326 2 years ago
can't find the stream/save icon on my vlc player what do i do
tigger9326 2 years ago
can't find file or advance options on my vlc player and i want to upload it on youtube what can i do please write soon
tigger9326 2 years ago
hey dudecan i put the streeamed mp4 to my cp?
altemis25 2 years ago
whenever I use VLC, its all grainy and glitchy...how could I fix this?..
nera789 2 years ago
Yeah, this is out-of-date.
RebelGuy95 2 years ago
great now i take my fav tv moments with me!
commenting2008 2 years ago
Does any1 know which version this is of VLC cause the interface is old? I don't have the stream save option
DarkVirus10011010 2 years ago
In newer versions of VLC, use the Convert/Save option in the file menu, the process is pretty much the same
Derkis 2 years ago
me either can you still steam youur dvds if so please send me a message i can't di this either
tigger9326 2 years ago
Don't do this, click this instead of that, take the green pill not the blue pill, turn it sideways, download it, but not if there is a picture of a purple dog on the screen..........
seriously, why is it so hard to find a simple dvd ripping program, you know, one that is easy, insert dvd, click rip, go play a game, come back later, put it in a file you want, watch, enjoy.....
KingNuada1 2 years ago 3
@KingNuada1 You wrote this a year ago but man do i feel the same way you do! It seems like every time you want to do something on a computer you have to learn one thing but then in order to do that u have to learn something else & then well you have to know how to do that & if come to a part and you have 2 options to choose from then you have to search what dht or mpeg 1 actually is in order to know which one you want & by the time your done you can't remember what u started in the first place!
panjok2 1 year ago
@panjok2 thats why i hate Ubuntu, i have to learn so much about my pc, way more than what i really need to.
And for nothing, because every time I install a new program, somehing else goes wrong, and i have to either reinstall or reinstall.
sucks!
206ernesto 1 year ago
simple enough. its almost like ripping a audio stream :D
cyberpunk64bit 2 years ago
Jimmy, Can you update this video to the latest version of VLC
Thanks
garrie1969 2 years ago 41
@garrie1969 Just go to Google and type VLC and then you will get the latest version.
ikvon 1 year ago
Fuck dude you forgot the subtitles
SuperUSA2012 11 months ago
Hey what version do u have man??
carlitospilot 2 years ago 2
Thanks, I've been looking for a freeware DVD ripper, but I'll try this and see if it works.
CoolDudeClem 2 years ago
iv been looking for one too lol
007ghg7 2 years ago
how do i rip it into avi. format???
MILEYCYRUSISMADD95 2 years ago
just convert it if you cant rip it to .avi
you just need a video converter
sorakh2643 2 years ago
Thanx mate! Works fine!
redfiled 2 years ago
fuck this its all confusing and shit!
eugenelizard 2 years ago
thanks that helped me a lot :)
Elvis7345 2 years ago
when I did it I only got the audio not the video
gimmjoww 2 years ago
same
ezi11111 2 years ago
Thanks so much;
Even though I have a newer version, I was still able to do it.
Thanks again
BJ22PIANO 2 years ago
can you make a tutorial with a newer version
afrohoofd12 2 years ago 2
thks i didnt know
truckerman60 2 years ago
What version of VLC is this? I just downloaded it and it looks different. It doesn't even have the same save/stream button. The version I have says 1.0.1 Goldeneye and it says I'm using the QT4 Interface. does that have anything to do with it? Please help.
Fischerspoonraff 2 years ago
This is an old video. The new version of vlc looks different but you can figure it out.
GrayBlood1331 2 years ago
I love all your vids....You do the best run down than any of them .....Thanks
dvn08822 2 years ago
I love all your vids....You do the best run down than any of them .....Thanks
dvn08822 2 years ago
how u do this on the newer version? or wat version ur using so i can download that
Anthony83090 2 years ago
it doesn't work for me it says an error has occured and it closes vLc
dumbarse11 2 years ago
I have a completly diffrent version that dosn't have the stream/save check box and the setting for it :(
psycobillysutter 2 years ago 2
once you rip it can you burn it on a dvd disc after
mrbuffy101 2 years ago
1:34
BLANKMEMORYDATA 2 years ago
i loveVLC its the shit much better for videos plays all Formats with out asking for updates 24/7 i recomend for all beginners and users who know how to use a pc 10/10
littleohah 2 years ago
kewl
kerboy90006 2 years ago
No matter what audio track I pick, it keeps playing the DVD in German, not English. Any ideas????
HiddenFlame42 2 years ago
its the same which version u use i got the newest and it works good;)
akl36 2 years ago
ehem, Vlc media player is MUCH better that the ordinary windowsplayer, i am using the VLC mediaplayer and i am loveing it... i am not sure about the ripp on the program but if u r useing the program to ripp u dont need to download some others-- lol, i hope u understand and happy ripping....
akl36 2 years ago
do u have 2 download that VLC player thingy?
dreginysnewaccount 2 years ago
what do you think?
Owminator 2 years ago
idk?
thats y i asked
dreginysnewaccount 2 years ago 2
If he is using VLC media player to rip the dvd's dont you think you have to download it first?
Owminator 2 years ago
-.-
Its pretty simple. In order to use a program you kinda have to have it installed on your computer. If its not already installed on your computer you might be able to DOWNLOAD it from the internet. If you know what idk means and what the internet is, you should know that your supposed to download a program before you can use it as well :O
Owminator 2 years ago
-_- look, im srry. it was a stupid fucking question. i just kinda thought it might be 1 of those fucking programs that u have on ur comp when u get it like windows media player and stuff
dreginysnewaccount 2 years ago
lol
fordrmani 2 years ago
what happens if you pick DVD (menus)?
IMAJIGABOOOOOO 2 years ago
i found out the version its 0.8.6-win32.exe
redwire95 2 years ago
could you tell use what version you used
redwire95 2 years ago
wich version did you use?
yoyomaster95 2 years ago
Huh. Cool.
fuzioninfinity 2 years ago
jimmyr is cool! the website is great!
hofnutz 2 years ago
Every time I do it I only get AUDIO !! could you tell me what I'm doing wrong, cause I'm doing it just like you on the vid and i have the same VLC version
VincentSinclair 2 years ago
I have the same problem!
Anadavine 2 years ago
what video codec do you choose if you want it on your ipod? plz answer
matwade01 2 years ago
i have the katest version
how would u do this in version 4.2.1
WOLVERINEDON 2 years ago
there is no version 4.2.1 of VLC media player. (there isn't a version 1.0 either, except for the release candidate versions)
frxstrem 2 years ago
As with everything to do with software, this tutorial needs to be updated because the VLC has a different interface now.
TheDahlakArchipelago 2 years ago 2
What dvd menu in best quality processing encoding video AVI 700 mb to MPG.
latincar976 2 years ago
are youmaybe not including the video codec? YOu may have to check it off in the check box.
chrisworld2 2 years ago
Hey jimmyrcom. I think other people have the same issue, when following your guide we only get the audio but no video.
How do we resolve this??
Thank you
AmandaEllison 2 years ago
holy shit i never knew that cud rip movies dude...i been using VLC for yeaaaaaaaaaaars and never knew it cud do that. >=O
u shud upgrade to the newer one it has more menus.... and a better osd. I knw some ppl favour the older ones for speed or something but the newer version is good man. I had to select DirectX 3D on Vista to stop it from switing vista themes... take care all. :)
massergiomusica 2 years ago
at 1:33 - 1:34 i see a flash o_O
Uzi1ChargY 2 years ago
Its his video thumbnail
stuffsd 2 years ago
I have no idea what ur saying about illegal stuff on the side of your video.What does this stuff stand for and mean?
Simplysims001 2 years ago
ok, wat i want to know how to do is upload recorded shows on tivo up to my computer, wish this guy knew how to
thecapone45 2 years ago
What the hell mine crashes everytime I try to rip??
charliesmovies1234 2 years ago
Thanks for the video :) But, every time I try to rip a dvd, I get the message:
VLC is unable to open the MRL 'dvdsimple://E:'. Check the log for details.
How can i fix that?
furturestar2305 2 years ago
I've a simlar problem. I can only get audio!
Honda15987 2 years ago
Me too..the video doesn't rip. Only the audio.
LikeBananasDo 2 years ago
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xXjose130Xx 2 years ago
wow thats very very coool
keranxtremboy 2 years ago
i can only get sound and no picture :S
gingy311094 2 years ago
thanks maN!!
ZoopperZ 2 years ago
Everytime i do this it comes up with an error saying it cannot open the encoder.Help!
j4m1e23 2 years ago
i wonder what vlc you use?
cause in the newest version 0.9.9 those features aren't there? ore maybe there are some where else?
jeppejeppesensmed 2 years ago
I have the latest vlc version 0.9.9 and it doesn't have the "stream/save" option. Help!
BobagemLixo 2 years ago 3
yes it does when ur on it click that thing with the arrrow to the left of it and it says stream.
CigaretteLife 2 years ago
go to filehippo and download a older version
thepcwizard 2 years ago
i was wondering why my VLC had a completely different layout to the on in this vid. you just answered my q? thanks.
DreamedOfHugeSpiders 2 years ago
plz help me, jimmyr,
sir, i have download video songs throw to the real player 11 downloding button in youtube last five days after i download the video file format is FLV and SWF but they are not playing in window media player 11 in xp-sp2 a massage is displayed {Windows Media Player cannot play the file} the windows error is You've encountered error message C00D1199 while using Windows Media Player. Please help me out
pksluv00 2 years ago
u cant play that in media player... u have to use vlc player and i dont know about swf but flv works fine in vlc
CigaretteLife 2 years ago
Fantastic, thanks dude.
SpacemanDOUG 2 years ago
can i save it as a avi and wat iff i want it in like only 8 chaptes
BldAgl 2 years ago
i have tried this many times but every tine i lose the ripped file,whatever format i try,why is this ?
hawdit 2 years ago
thanks man it works
gimmjoww 2 years ago
how do i rip videos that only play in vlc by vlc?
would i select the direct file?
hmmm i'll try this. I'll update you if my computer doesn't blow up or something.
shakaama 2 years ago
Dear JimmyrCom, one thing important you seem to forget : QUALITY !!!! And what about the .AVI Format ? Not available in VLC Player.
paddyandco 2 years ago
Merci
jacknad15 2 years ago
Hey, thanks man, it works but it takes a while.......
olafola222 2 years ago
very helpful.
phwannabe24 2 years ago
you cant rip dvd's with the new 9 version of vlc you need to use the 8.6 version. That is what the people at VLC told me anyway.
bebevan 2 years ago
I can't find this on the new version of VLC. Can you also make a video on how to use this on the new VLC player (version 9)??? Thanks.
jeangreyfan 2 years ago
BTW you can get the older versions at filehippo
toyracers 2 years ago
im doing exactly what you are on the video but its only ripping the audio not the video
salamisandwhich101 2 years ago
this is great! thanks a lottttt
forevertaha 2 years ago
great advice I couldn't get this thing to work otherwise, lol not even the same version. I did get a little motion sick from it moving around like that.
megles7187 2 years ago