@urbanguerrilla64 GREAT, let's start with the arabs vacating all the lands they stole during the arab conquests like egypt, iraq, syria, palestine, north africa, jordan and lebanon. As soon as the arabs leave, the jews should also. lol
@Maxwedge12000 Did the Arab conquests hppen within living memory? No. Are any of these land owners still around? No. Palestinians are still being dispossessed, Israels name is mud in the civilised world.
@urbanguerrilla64 So, according to you if the Israelis keep the land for say another 60 years when all the original land owners are dead and buried, then the Israelis own the land free and clear like the arabs now own all the land they stole. That sounds reasonable to me, and fair.
@Maxwedge12000 No, according to me, the recent Jewish immigrants stole the land from its rightfull owners during and after 1948 and are continuing to do so, they will have to vacate that land and hand it back to its owners - that is what is reasonable and fair and most of the world agrees with that...
@Maxwedge12000 No doubt you are hoping that will continue, I look forward to seeing the two communities coexisting side-by-side. Unless Israel plans to exterminate the Palestinians you will have to learn to live together.
@urbanguerrilla64 There will never be peace with the palestinians, not ever. The only way there will be peace will be for one side to completely destroy the other. Anyone who thinks there can be peace between the two is delusional. Let there be all out war and to the victor, the spoils.
@Maxwedge12000 ur very pesimistic max, I know there will be peace because the world will not allow another holocaust by either side so peace is the only option.
@urbanguerrilla64 You confuse realism for pessimism. The palsestinains have vowed never to accept peace until Israel is no more. It is not possible to make peace with people that have that mentality. Peace is not the only option as war has been the only option in many times and situations throughout human history. Israel vs. palestinians is one of those. Only when one side is completely destroyed will there be peace.
@Maxwedge12000 I dont know who told you that but its not the case. Palestine and Israel can exist side-by-side and will as the world will not allow another extermination.
@urbanguerrilla64 Who told me this? Look up the charter of hamas on the internet. In their own words they vow to reject all peace initiatives and vow to wage war until Israel is no more. You tell me how you can make peace that are sworn to destroy you?
urban, you have no concept of how hate filled and dysfunctional the palestinians are.
They are a lost cause incapable to thinking rationally. They are living the life they have chosen for themselves. Do not pity them nor expect rational things from them.
@Maxwedge12000 Surely this is not the case when you see the intelligent ladies of the 'Sleepless in Gaza' crew and their interviewees, certainly not hate filled or irrational Max.
@Maxwedge12000 Hamas are not the Palestinian people, they are a mere political party, many Palestinians disagree with them. After all wars there is peace; there will be peace in Palestine/Israel as well.
@urbanguerrilla64 Hamas is not a "mere political party", they are the ONLY political party in gaza and the government of gaza, elected by the people. If the palestinians do not want war with Israel, they should vote out the government that has vowed to reject all peace initiatives until Israel is destroyed. But they won't because the majority of palestinians share the hamas mentality. Peace normally comes after war when on side loses.
@Maxwedge12000 People may vote in an extreme party, it doesnt give their attackers the right to slaughter innocent civilians. I dont believe Israel wants peace and the US backs that decision. There is no war, there is attacks by a huge millitary machine against almost defenceless people trapped in a huge ghetto - just like the Warsaw ghetto.
@urbanguerrilla64 That last post just destroyed any credibility I thought you had. To are too far from reality in your views to be taken seriously or debated on this topic. Believe what ever makes you comfortable.
@Maxwedge12000 well anyway, The Palestinians are wonderfull people and shouldnt be exterminated for the sake of a bit of old desert. On the credibility issue when you say they are 'hatefilled and irrational' I dont view you as having any cred anyway, but i always believe there is hope of getting thru to such entrenched people as you.
@urbanguerrilla64 "the world will not allow another holocaust by either side" Really? The world ignored Rwanda and what is happening in Darfur and Tibet.
@Maxwedge12000 Nonsense, thats ancient history. The land was stolen from the Palestinians in the recent past (1948) so that is the land that is well documented as being taken by the immigrants from the US and Russia.
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hayaiaoo 10 months ago
When is she going to interview the people that launch rockets into Israel?
Maxwedge12000 1 year ago
@Maxwedge12000 You're happy enough with the theft of this mans land by the settlers and you're blaming him for launching rockets?
All of the land will have to be given back to its owners before there is peace.
urbanguerrilla64 1 year ago
@urbanguerrilla64 GREAT, let's start with the arabs vacating all the lands they stole during the arab conquests like egypt, iraq, syria, palestine, north africa, jordan and lebanon. As soon as the arabs leave, the jews should also. lol
Maxwedge12000 1 year ago
@Maxwedge12000 Did the Arab conquests hppen within living memory? No. Are any of these land owners still around? No. Palestinians are still being dispossessed, Israels name is mud in the civilised world.
urbanguerrilla64 1 year ago
@urbanguerrilla64 So, according to you if the Israelis keep the land for say another 60 years when all the original land owners are dead and buried, then the Israelis own the land free and clear like the arabs now own all the land they stole. That sounds reasonable to me, and fair.
Maxwedge12000 1 year ago
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urbanguerrilla64 1 year ago
@Maxwedge12000 No, according to me, the recent Jewish immigrants stole the land from its rightfull owners during and after 1948 and are continuing to do so, they will have to vacate that land and hand it back to its owners - that is what is reasonable and fair and most of the world agrees with that...
urbanguerrilla64 1 year ago
@urbanguerrilla64 Say what you will, Israel is there to stay.
Maxwedge12000 1 year ago
@Maxwedge12000 so is Palestine
urbanguerrilla64 1 year ago
@urbanguerrilla64 Palestine may always exist, but their condition gets worse and the size of palestine will continue to shrink.
Maxwedge12000 1 year ago
@Maxwedge12000 No doubt you are hoping that will continue, I look forward to seeing the two communities coexisting side-by-side. Unless Israel plans to exterminate the Palestinians you will have to learn to live together.
urbanguerrilla64 1 year ago
@urbanguerrilla64 There will never be peace with the palestinians, not ever. The only way there will be peace will be for one side to completely destroy the other. Anyone who thinks there can be peace between the two is delusional. Let there be all out war and to the victor, the spoils.
Maxwedge12000 1 year ago
@Maxwedge12000 ur very pesimistic max, I know there will be peace because the world will not allow another holocaust by either side so peace is the only option.
urbanguerrilla64 1 year ago
@urbanguerrilla64 You confuse realism for pessimism. The palsestinains have vowed never to accept peace until Israel is no more. It is not possible to make peace with people that have that mentality. Peace is not the only option as war has been the only option in many times and situations throughout human history. Israel vs. palestinians is one of those. Only when one side is completely destroyed will there be peace.
Maxwedge12000 1 year ago
@Maxwedge12000 I dont know who told you that but its not the case. Palestine and Israel can exist side-by-side and will as the world will not allow another extermination.
urbanguerrilla64 1 year ago
@urbanguerrilla64 Who told me this? Look up the charter of hamas on the internet. In their own words they vow to reject all peace initiatives and vow to wage war until Israel is no more. You tell me how you can make peace that are sworn to destroy you?
Maxwedge12000 1 year ago
urban, you have no concept of how hate filled and dysfunctional the palestinians are.
They are a lost cause incapable to thinking rationally. They are living the life they have chosen for themselves. Do not pity them nor expect rational things from them.
Maxwedge12000 1 year ago
@Maxwedge12000 Surely this is not the case when you see the intelligent ladies of the 'Sleepless in Gaza' crew and their interviewees, certainly not hate filled or irrational Max.
urbanguerrilla64 1 year ago
@urbanguerrilla64 Not everyone in Germany in 1940 was a fascist trying to conquer the world. What's your point?
Maxwedge12000 1 year ago
@Maxwedge12000 Hamas are not the Palestinian people, they are a mere political party, many Palestinians disagree with them. After all wars there is peace; there will be peace in Palestine/Israel as well.
urbanguerrilla64 1 year ago
@urbanguerrilla64 Hamas is not a "mere political party", they are the ONLY political party in gaza and the government of gaza, elected by the people. If the palestinians do not want war with Israel, they should vote out the government that has vowed to reject all peace initiatives until Israel is destroyed. But they won't because the majority of palestinians share the hamas mentality. Peace normally comes after war when on side loses.
Maxwedge12000 1 year ago
@Maxwedge12000 People may vote in an extreme party, it doesnt give their attackers the right to slaughter innocent civilians. I dont believe Israel wants peace and the US backs that decision. There is no war, there is attacks by a huge millitary machine against almost defenceless people trapped in a huge ghetto - just like the Warsaw ghetto.
urbanguerrilla64 1 year ago
@urbanguerrilla64 That last post just destroyed any credibility I thought you had. To are too far from reality in your views to be taken seriously or debated on this topic. Believe what ever makes you comfortable.
Maxwedge12000 1 year ago
@Maxwedge12000 well anyway, The Palestinians are wonderfull people and shouldnt be exterminated for the sake of a bit of old desert. On the credibility issue when you say they are 'hatefilled and irrational' I dont view you as having any cred anyway, but i always believe there is hope of getting thru to such entrenched people as you.
urbanguerrilla64 1 year ago
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@urbanguerrilla64 "the world will not allow another holocaust by either side" Really? The world ignored Rwanda and what is happening in Darfur and Tibet.
Maxwedge12000 1 year ago
@Maxwedge12000 Nonsense, thats ancient history. The land was stolen from the Palestinians in the recent past (1948) so that is the land that is well documented as being taken by the immigrants from the US and Russia.
urbanguerrilla64 1 year ago