0-PMG-2 FULL CIRCLE

[zszabo58]

12 gates - 5,7 or 11 rotors needed!

[apllox]

can you tell me. why did you designe it with 12 geates and 2 rotors?

[hipstarchild]

DAMN..I wish someone out there can crack this problem and give free energy to the people of the world !

[jkurse555]

I know this comment is a little late, but perhaps another 2 magnets perpendicular to the original 2 traveling magnets could give it that extra push you need. maybe even as many moving magnets as stationary ones would provide enough force to keep spinning and produce torque. Also, anyone that thinks this won't work should think for yourself instead of regurgitating something someone else wrote. How can this not work? Everyone knows magnets push against each other, just get the mechanics right.

[mtszabo]

@jkurse555

Because they also pull against each other. No matter what, you're always going to have an opposing force to contend with. That's why is slows down and eventually starts "bouncing" between gates; the momentum he added with his finger push was finally overcome by the strength of the magnets pulling in the opposite direction.

[ArcadeGames]

Nice, put some more magnets, maybe it will make it less sticky.

[Danamus24]

Maybe someone thought of this already but why dont you put the Gates closer together at the distance of the flat spot so the next magnet will take the attraction of the magnet in motion.

[tonyvu60]

"Using" electromagnet to generate electrical power is not impossible, if you know how to "manipulate" the position of the magnetic field by a mechanical system.

[tonyvu60]

Even the most efficient bearing (least drag) would not help if you don't have some kind of mechanical system to move the electromagnetic field out of the way, so that only one of the force (attraction or repulsion) is utilized at a time.

[wyrrox]

The magnet shops probably earn more from sales than you will if you make this thing work.

[yourunclehank1]

more sticks and too much drag from center pivot rod

use a bearing

[TOPRAKALPAY]

use more stick on different angles..

[chickenpoper]

If only i was old enough to test these sort of things but alas, I am a mere more than a child of 13. However I have a sophisticated mind. I will dedicate my life to the magnificent arts of Science and Mathematics. I have since been dedicated by when i was of my younger years.

[uplusion22]

We need that on a massive size, so we can produce much energy, and power cities with it.

[MrFabbry89]

nulla si crea nulla si distrugge.

l'asta continua a girare fino a che non esaurisce la forza data dalla spinta dell'operatore

[ShawnHydedotcom]

if you add morecross bars you will get more torqu, however this is not ZMP because it costs energy to chearge the magnets in the first place.

[salzahrah]

why wouldnt you make the gate have attraction at the entrance and repulsion at the exit so that it would pull in and push out the rotor

[reason245]

Will still have the problem of overcoming its own repulsion at some point.

[andy3dz]

Build more gates closer together, use neo earth magnets and maybe make the magnets that are at the end of the stick spin freely.

[marcelino1303]

como é o principio de fucionamento?

[seeaeytch]

you should use the repulsion of the magnets rather than the attraction. the perendev motor's the most efficient use of this concept.

[shivrajvishnu]

Good effort.

[MrWombatPPC]

Or just have a 3 pronged rotor.

[therealtruthtold]

Youre in college?

[MrWombatPPC]

What about making an x3 exact copys of this unit, directly above, one another and join the rotors via the shaft. But ofset each rotor.?

[r3inhout]

Yes, I think the same... he has made to levels but he just put them parallel :s, just make it the way one is on the 'sticky or death' spot and the other one in the gate...

[dlkinnc]

Nicely Done!

[McGuywer]

Why not just glue two pistols on the opposite sides of that spinner to obtain a Russian Roulette. That would be more fun.

[sacha4you]

McGuywer, pistols are a rather crude and unreliable way to die. I'd suggest to trigger the cycle-switch of an electric chair - or, at least a of a lethal injection machine.

;-))

[Archy112]

lol whit this can get electricity fro rotating and can also add somting els to bat if more construction can get a electrical generator what could give electrisity almost for ever

[2ndKnight]

What is the point? Magnets are not an energy source.

[Blueskyh2o]

Well, your right, it is not! But magnet acts like a unidireccional gate ( a "valve") to access an endless source of energy, the zero point field. Thereby the permanent magnetic field dont come from the magnet itself, but the magnetic material acts like a catalyst that taps into those conservative "magnetic field flux". See? So in a popular point of view is like the energy is being generated from the magnets themselves, yes... but it's not what's really happening down there...

[vietarc]

have more inertia on the rotating mechanism. Magnets provide a force field so you must have massive inertia to overcome it. The pushing and stopping energy is not the same. Goodluck

[NovaHorizon]

except permanent magnets aren't.. permanent. You can wear out a magnet with excessive use.

[Blueskyh2o]

i dont think so... magnets dont wear out that way, i have seen severe testings on magnets, no problem! all you have to keep is the magnetic material integrity - no extreme temperature and no hard beating, easy!

[cyborgtroy]

No, magnets act like they produce a magnetic field with closed field lines.

They don't ever produce energy. They can store potential energy between the magnetic fields, but that's about it.

[Blueskyh2o]

Sorry, but thats not it.... thats just the beginning of the story... stay tunned and you will see.

[krazeekooladam]

how long do we have to wait?

[adisharr]

Don't hold your breath. The most he will EVER achieve with this is a low friction bearing.

On another note, magnet sales are up.

[adrifromhh]

I cant wait anymore....

[quellenathanar]

Perhaps try a mechanical addition like aluminum plates that could be moved slightly to alter the shape of the flux field so it will reduce the sticking parts of the gate shield. I realize it would take energy to move the plates, but it may save more energy then it costs.

[Blueskyh2o]

Sorry, i dont understand your point...

[taliewacker2007]

think like this you are trying to make a vortex inside of a vortex. Tak on of those circle vortexs out shorten up the stick and tell me what happens bc i dont have the time to do this.

[Blueskyh2o]

YES...your are right. The magnetic shunt technology. Of course! The only problem is to implement such a system in a very simple way, etherwise the mechanical complexity will "destroy" this proof of concept prototype, like energy lost on drag.

[RICHLES01]

Have you tried counter balancing the pull of the arm by an ofsett arm. ie, 1 arm with centre pivot, 1 side pointing at magnet and oppsite side pointing in between

[Blueskyh2o]

In the beginning i have that precise ideia, but the magnetic fields of permanent magnets are always "static" so like everything in nature search for an equilibrium and no extra work is done. Still very interesting conservative fields.

[Blueskyh2o]

But don't worry, there are lots of new setups on permanent magnet motors, which basically use electromagnetic coils to control (or stear) the flux of permanent magnets and therefore amplify the energy inputed - 300% to 400% more work by "layer" (parallel path and shunting field technology). There are some interesting solid state disrupting technologies available too, by discharging on high voltage or just by high speed flux field motion (constriction).

[DiliriumGuru]

Grate idea.. Here is a way to make it work. Never use metal unless you 100000% have to it draws magnatisim away. 2nd think of a spring that flux that lets it go "boing" well you machine needs that "boing" to kick it up with evrey tern.. The reson it stops running after a few cycals is the "indomagnitic yetes" or "gravatrons" that form slow it down. All so the air and othere matter in the room.. I made one in a vacum chamber and all no metalick except for the magnits.OP=4-1 heats up fast :(

[Blueskyh2o]

Sorry, you have to start making sense of yourself first, but i m afraid you're not ready for this subject... and no, this setup is not good enough even on vacumm chamber

[waldo2020]

nice spelling Jethro!

[ABOSOLUTEKNOWLEDGE]

lol stupid ass it stops

when u have a product put in on ebay

stupid faks

[spookyrufus]

god bless u

[polypolyman]

decent... naturally there will be no net power, but minimization of energy loss (due to friction and whatnot) does help.

It would be interesting to see how efficient your could make a motor power by this concept (and electromagnets, obviously)

[msconfigexe]

I dont know if this has been mentioned before, but if you still have this unit, cut the screw rod that the spinning device goes around on as this seems to be absorbing some "energy" through wobble.

[GinoJerry86]

u should add more magnets

[sagenichibotsu]

There are laws for this kind of thing...

Due to conservation of energy, you cannot get it to go faster without putting more energy into the system. It moves initially due to the potential/kinetic energy...

Well, yeah. No perpetual motion machines either, due to friction.

[ThePotatoes]

Im no Expert with this stuff I do not have anything like it myself. Having watched alot of videos like this I notice that Most or all of them end up Stopping sooner or later because there is a Point where it slows down enough and the magnets on each side reach a General Medium. What if you Bent the Rod Slightly so that if one magnet was Directly Under a gate that the Other magnet was Half way inbetween or something. I dont know if you have tried this before But just a Suggestion =-D ENJOY 5stars

[Blueskyh2o]

Still will not work, a new equilibrium would be set and a new sticky spot too. If you keep on adding gates or magnetic rotors in the limit you have a neutral state - no sticky spots but no pushing/pulling effect either - just like a roller coaster and gravity - BUT then something come along...a little change :) - why not adding an electromagnetic control with coils and paths over it...

[waldo2020]

why not adding an electromagnetic control with coils and paths over it...

and where does the energy for that come from?

[aeroscope]

Does it break the laws of thermodynamics?

[Blueskyh2o]

WHY do you ask a question when you dont want to know the right answer? Thats not the right question.. are you still fighting with the ghost of energy conservation? Then you are not ready for the right answer yet. Start asking yourself if you have the right and correct perspective of your little cosmos and if it is open or closed.

Nature does not respect erroneous misleading and ignorant human theory fueled by egocentric rigidly-blind human "laws", ask virgen Mary and Santa Claus!

[sagenichibotsu]

Actually, virgin Mary never broke the laws of thermodynamics, and Santa Claus does not exist. You get pretty fired up when someone mentions a flaw in your plan.

Could it be that you're frustrated?

[Blueskyh2o]

No way José! On the contrary - im glad and satisfied things are going to change and truth will finally come. I mean - for all. Oh, its not my big "plans"... just my little experiments. What's really a flaw? My experiments not succeding at first(but my knowledge keep on growing) or you just keep on denying everything and doing nothing? Oh, i forgot ... knowing or trying to figure it out is just a terrible "waste" of time... everything you say man!

[magnadox]

thermodynamics? heat exchangement? no he just thought is was fun it says so in the info

[lukusr]

the halfpole shielding on How Jons gate was not just shielding, the square gate N pole facing out coupled spins with the round gate, N-pole facing in, to create an asymetrical force profile, both the ring and square were closed, you could leave a small gap,1/16 or 1/8 inch, maybe, but too big a gap disrupts the force profile. check out his rail car setup for a one way gate with one side left open, different setup, same result.

[rejoycement]

try fixing the axel, it wobbles too much

[calebtallakson]

if you could set it up with three magnets so that two are being pushed forwards at all times and one is resisting shouldn't that be more efficient? just a thought.

[adisharr]

Another great example of a magnetic bearing.  Unfortunately that's all it will ever be.

[bogdanp9]

It would be great if you would put a vertital axis wind turbine on the axial shaftand a generator under it. I think that the starting speed of the turbine would be a little bit higher due to the magnetic resistance, but then the magnets would amplify the movement of the shaft and therefore get more power out of the generator.

[r123062b]

bogdanp9, good suggestion in this way the whole set up will become like the bedini generator magnet motor combination. But to expect this set up achieve free motion with only magnets is not going to happen. What we experence here is the N repelling the N causing the kicking effect only to be attracted back by S then the sticking effect.

[maulerrw]

one magnet will speed up as it approaches a gate, the other will slow down. Then that one will speed up as it leaves and the other will slow. repeat.

[maulerrw]

...until magnetic resistance brings it to a stop

[JohnPaul2006]

if you took away the magnets, it would spin for just as long.

[r123062b]

Guys this is hopeless. Magnets has Potential energy buy if only magnets cannot produce kinetic energy. Try understanding the 1st and 2nd law of Thermodynamics. Then you may stop wasting your time on this. ITs a day dream. Even the Johnson and Perendev were proven as unworkable otherwise we should be flooded with these motors by now... Commonnnn...

[dxn90210]

i do agree with you that this is all a day dream. And yes it has been proven unworkable but it doesn't meen 1 should give up. trial and error makes you understand a bit more about things.

[r123062b]

THere is a saying in chinese. Do not re-invent the wheel. I have a degree in mechanical engineering and at first was very curious about this magnet motor. Johnson and perendeve inspires me to experiment 4 years ago. I spent amful amount of time and money (US250K) by design and prototyping. I protos Johnson and perendev and makes several other combination. I own a dc motor factory and use their engg resources to help out. My conclusion. NO SUCH THING AS FREE ENERGY OR OVER UNITY.

[dxn90210]

as i said i do agree with you in that magnets cannot produce free energy, and yes this person is spending money and time trying to do the impossible. but he is not wasting his time, some people incl myself (maybe not you) would choose knowledge over money any day. and although hes failing on creating "free energy" he is also gaining knowledge on hoe magnets work, and i plan on doing the same thing. I have 50k to blow and i wouldnt mind blowing it experimenting with magnets

[r123062b]

Good luck dxn90210. My intention is to warn those who will follow my footsteps so that they can save their precious time and money on something will work. But if you have both by all means GOOD LUCK...

[dxn90210]

yea i see lol. cheers dude

[Lost8Wizard]

take one magnet out

[datzfast]

any device that would work would accelerate to destruction. I'm not making fun of you.

i carry two magnets all the time. and can now predict the outcomes of anything i see tried

but, I'm not through yet

[Gimmicus]

Some of the work seemed to be absorbed by the oscillation of the pole you have that thing on. If you take a look at the video, the thing was wobbling quite a bit when the thing stopped.

[CHUCKYCHUCKYBOBUCY]

Very true. If there was more control in the experiment, it would succeed.

[roomey456]

add double the gates

[JaymieWaymie]

Nice! you could use an intermittent pulse of power from a battery to kick it across the gate - using a trip-switch mechanism to initiate the release of power at the right time

[genuinecanadianprick]

Then you would have a glorified, over comlicated, unreliable, and inefficient electric motor.

[lukusr]

check out howard johnsons magnetic gate. he used half pole shielding to overcome the initial repulsion and create an asymetrical force profile. also, the rotor magnets need to be longer than the width of the gate to create the proper exchange forces reaction.

[r123062b]

lukusr, before you advise here I hope you replicated the johnson gate. We did and it didnt work. Even Johnson cannot replicated his invention. His invention was in the mid 70s, now 2008. Why are we not seeing any thing like it in the market place. Its because its a hoax. Problem is it creates thousands of enthusiasts wasting their energy replicating or inventing magnet motor that will never work. What a false prophet!

[lukusr]

I built a magnetic gate and it worked even without halfpole shielding but only with a closed circle gate. johnson device was suppressed "lost" by the patent office, no suprise cuz patent officers are usually ex oil execs. get his book and check out the science behind his devices. he used computer mapping to uncover a dynamic quadropole vortex that is the basis of magnetic fields and all H.J. devices. It looks like no magnetic field picture you will see in any textbook. H.J. was no joke!

[A3R0SPACE054]

@r123062b Well if the first idea fails,you improve it.

[nissan300ztt]

this guy is a towel head

[winst27]

No free energy here,

[Joelduffy]

Really? He seems to have said that in the description! Good call!

[ZicAbrao]

What Crazy guys... This is new for you ??

Is better to study a litle more physics....

dah...

[ArturoMoises2]

You should try bending the rod at the middle this way you get them to work at different times, as well as you should double up on the rods, have 4 magnets moving through instead of two.

regards

[SeedofGod]

Ya your getting caught on the gate, When you make the top, align it so it catches the Bottom gate, thus propelling it out, of the stuck postion.

Likewise for the top it will get stuck in the gate causeing it to stop moving.

With some careful Trial an error, You can Align the Top an the bottom so they propel each other Through there respective gates.

And You should have Fluid Motion, that lasts aslong as the magnets

[r123062b]

Seedofgod, you advised as if you conducted the experiments already. This is one of the reason why I tried to warn people that its a waste of time. Its like re-inventing the wheel again. Magnets cannot create Kinetic energy all by it self. That's the natual law. Now if you like to violate the law of nature go to Mars may be it work there.

[tig4533]

Looks like early experiments by Faraday in the 1800s in building the first electric motors. What is the point here?

[zezimashock]

maybe the point is free energy?

(but making en buying magnets is not free :p)

[rotary57]

If it were producing energy, it wouldn't stop moving.

[jdorsal]

daaaaooooooo i was so happy for the first minute. i would say try to get an element of gravity in the motion to keep it going, but, alas, I have not slightest clue

[bratstarr]

did i miss summat ?????????????????

[Jeebus84]

Search for unipolar magnets on google,i see lots of talk about them and even patents for them(the patents are actually the first results that google displays),......can you please explain how they dont exist and why one couldnt be made?

[Jeebus84]

Even if it wasnt perfectly unipolar,isnt possable this type of magnetic setup could eliminate the "sticky spot"?

[Jeebus84]

if the magnets on the stick were unipolar instead of regular magnets when they exited the gate they wouldnt be attracted back to it,they would be repeled away from it and onto the next one...............

[CrashGames2108]

Too bad there's no such thing as a unipolar magnet.

[Jeebus84]

Title:Unipolar magnetic system

Document Type/Number:USA Patent 6861934

Title:Open unipolar magnetic structure

Document Type/Number:USA Patent 6392518

Title:Open unipolar magnetic structure

Document Type/Number:US Patent 6265959

[CrashGames2108]

1: "...external magnetic poles oppositely charged from a plurality of internal magnetic poles forcibly joined together..." Multiple bipolar magnets.

2,3: Uniquely shaped magnets that create a uniform field in a specific location. The opposite pole goes out the back it looks like.

Unipolar magnets are simply impossible on the atomic level.

[Jeebus84]

Hmmm.......couldnt you get 2 magents,stick them together,then stick some type of shielding around the join so that both ends are the same pole?

[dinoanastos]

It would then get stuck around the join since any shield would be magnetic as well ( such as steel). If you can come up with a non magnetic shield that blocks 100% of the magnetic field then you have found the holy grail.

[Jeebus84]

I thought because the area around the join would be weakened magneticly that it wouldn't be powerfull enough to counteract the 2 uncovered ends of the magnet from propelling it around,since they have a greater magnetic energy level than the area around the join and the reason it gets stuck is because the magnets he is using on the ends of the stick have a north and south pole with an equal force,cancelling out any postive work.....the force of the uncovered ends overpowers the force of the join?

[dinoanastos]

On the contraty the join would have a magnetic field twice as strong than at the open ends because they are of the same polarity. Any gain you get from the open ends would be negated by the increase of " magnetic drag" at the join.

[Jeebus84]

U can get magneticly sheilded speakers so that your old skool cathode ray tube TV doesnt get screwed,cant you just use that material as the sheilding?Whats that stuff jamesroney is using?We all know a material like this exists somewhere even if we dont have it yet,or do we?I dunno please tell me lol

[YudeSuta]

try using superconducting materials. I've heard they can block magnetic fields. :)

[wolfey2k]

try bending the rod so that one magnet is leaving a gate while the other end is entering the gate. see what happens.

[Blueskyh2o]

I read something on Howard Johnson magnetic motor that does not mention magnetic shielding but a special spacial inprinting on magnets themselves, a non linear and non symmetrical inprinting that privileges on way motion...

[jamesroney]

You need to implement, "One Way Magnetic Shielding" for it's the holy grail to getting past the gate issue.

Click on my name or just Google it.

[Blueskyh2o]

Thats right, James. I have tried to shield with magnets but that didnt work, because it was a destructive shielding. That means that it shields but weaken tha magnet pulsing of the gate on rotor. The hope is to use a metal shielding that does influence the rotor one way only. And if that's a construtive influence and makes the shifting of the dipoles stronger the better.

[jamesroney]

You don't shield with magnets, rather you use shielding around the magnets.

The proper shielding for the shape of your configuration is very tricky to mold/shape, but the end results would get you net gain.

Sure wish I was there, but the next best thing is sharing what I know that works.

I will be making a video soon that will show exactly why and how my custom shielding design really works.

Keep going, you're doing a great job.

[fizzguts]

"I will be making a video soon that will show exactly why and how my custom shielding design really works."

How's are the flying pigs doing?

[44R0Ndin]

indeed, and when can i talk to santa?

[r123062b]

hamestoney, then you just add the sticking even further. magnet shield is made up of ferromagnetic materials which is highly magnetizable. Although magnet shield works by blocking the magnet field that shield will act like unlike pole to the other nearby magnets sticking it like a N-S combination. Its a dead end buddy.

[xsyar]

crap

[variablestatus]

great model, good work. this is a larger example of the k-Mets mpmm model. k-Mets pulses in the same fashion but we've taken it a few stages further. you'll get there if you keep on working and searching your visions and then applying your idea's. don't give up....

[Jetijs]

Will the second plane be aligned out of phase of the first one?

[Blueskyh2o]

Yes, first number 1 to 24 in two planes, then the sequence of triggering will be 1-14 (first plane) 3-16 (second plane) 5-18 (first plane) 7-20 (second plane) 9-22 (first plane) 11-24 (second plane) then back to 1 again. Just wait for my next videos. The truth is that no positive work is done by a bedini gate cause the atraction on exit and repulsion on entry just equal the push of the gate, unless ... you spin the magnet or use a coil. Still very enteresting "toy" #

[m3sca1]

are you going to have 2 planes or 3?

like your work!