FOX News: Pamela Geller Discusses Jessica Mokdad Human Rights Conference and Family Cover-Up

[testingtestingtest23]

Pamela Geller is a Jew. She hates Islam; I hope she dies a slow horrible death.

[StoogeWatcher]

@testingtestingtest23 You are a Muslim fascist. I hope you asslifters grow a brain.

[pritpal1964]

Stop using families tragedies for political, social, economic or religious agenda. If you are serious to stop Honor Killing help parents to make sense of social valuse as Arrange Marriage are to protect our kids & peace in our social system. Marriage isn't Love, its Devotion created through family celebrations, best wishes, social traditions supported by religion. 2% Arrange 40& Love Marriage fail, Arrange Marriage is most peaceful, respectful, sucessful, exciting process to get merry

[FeignofCordor]

I don`t know what more we here in the west need to wake up to the evil that is islam

[Keithava]

You got a backward response for anything don't you? Totally missing the points brought out. That is one reason why muslims feel so picked on in America. So near sighted they can't see what's in front of them. No matter what you say they have a agenda to dominate the world, at least moohammad did, but you don't follow him so what is the difference? Anyway, Shalom.

[zayde90]

@Keithava nope, im precisely targeting your points and picking them apart, and you happen to make it so easy. Neither Muhammad nor the objective of Islam was 'world domination', its just a popular ideology thus it spread so fast and far, and continues to. anyway, it was a good conversation and yes im a muslim. Salaam.

[susannie111]

Islamic honor killings. An abboration and its all over America- spreading rapidly. Thank you Pamrla for your hard work. Without you I cannot imagine how we would ever stop this. Your work is critical in order to protect OUR children from being brutally killed as Islam quickly invades our nation with a devastating ideology practiced by radical Muslims.

[Keithava]

I'm not backing off. Someone asked me a question about muslims and islam and by you posting what you did answered the question for me. They got to see first hand what I was telling them. Other infidels got to see how far out there muslims really are when it comes to thinking for themselves and trying to defend their so called religion. Just about all muslims have the mindset that you do. You can have the last word if it will make you feel good. My point was made to them by you..Thanks

[zayde90]

@Keithava isnt that a relief, well then lads, take a good look, every fourth person on the street is a muslim, our religion is of the devil and all we ever think about is killing the infidels, we are barbaric, brutal and inhumane so watch out, all 1.8 billion of us are going to get you. from the guys who serve you slushies to the doctors and nurses, all of us are in on it.....hows that? point proven dont you think

[Keithava]

@zayde90 I would suggest that you go back and read your quran. You must not really be a muslims but just someone who like to argue with those that are correct in what they say. You might not think those things, yet, but muslims have the mindset of reaching that goal of islam ruling the world, if not then they wouldn't be muslim..Muslims are killed every day who are not muslim enough that sharia law requires. Sooner or later the spores will burst open so stop lying about it. woof.

[zayde90]

@Keithava oh im very well acquainted with the Quran. however, rest assured global domination isn't a goal emphasized in the text at all, the most repeated concept in the book is 'the Oneness of God'. its pretty obvious by now you are quite unfamiliar with the religion and its principles, you happen to watch a particular video, hear a particular verse, read up on it perhaps, see or hear something that reinforces your 'understanding' and make ridiculous conclusions i.e global domination.

[Keithava]

@zayde90 I am very familiar with the quran. Add sharia law in with its teachings and you have a viper that needs its head cut off. What you are saying is not what they are teaching in their mosques. Do you reject hamas and hezbollah terrorist groups? if you don't then you have the mindset of these people and you are a viper just waiting to strike. Why do you say it is not global domination when it is and you know it?

[zayde90]

@Keithava "viper that needs it head cut" what gibberish is this? moving on, shariah are the laws directly derived from the Quran and the Sunnah of Muhammad (hadith), they are no seperate or as you implied "add sharia law in with its teachings...". Hamas and Hezbollah are two DEMOCRATICALLY elected political parties, they aren't in power by shariah law but western law......

[MissCaulks]

@zayde90 Two parties you o doubt symathize with, right? And make no mistake, those "elections" as you so generously label them were staged in an attempt to add legitimacy to the murderers of HAMAS and Hezbollah. It says alot about you (and islam by extension) that you support groups that murder children and use hospitals and shools as launch sites for their attack. If the 'evil" israel dares defend itself then you can call them the bad guys for hitting a hospital or school. Cowards.

[zayde90]

@MissCaulks moving on, nope i didn't sympathize, i can use hitler in contrast with the US during WW2 but it doesn't mean im sympathizing, its a tool of debate. im a cosmopolitan by nature thus i will not delve into politics that transcend a islam and west scenario, you are very ill informed and should your pursue this farther.....try to stay on topic

[zayde90]

@Keithava moreover, don't get me started about terrorism, the israeli and us gov are just as guilty of terrorism as are hezbollah. regardless, hezbollah is as islamic as the US government is christian, meaning a political party or government aren't dictating religious laws, they are separate entities. thus, your point utterly fails. as for global domination...ive must have missed the memo, ill go check with the local imam on wat our next step is, perhaps we'll annex mexico lol

[MissCaulks]

@zayde90 No need, just contact the Muslim Brotherhood. Your "next step" (as you put it) is doing exactly what you are doing, atacking everyone who finds offense with Islam. That and excusing things such as, oooh let's say, honor killings. It must be frusterating for you to see that so few of us in the west are buying your Islamic BS anymore. You see, the fact is islam will NOT dominate. If not for the west you morons would still be fighting with swords and rocks LOL

[zayde90]

@MissCaulks the Brotherhood is on phase b right now, the mexico plans are a GO. but as a low ranked officer, ive been stationed on youtube to "attack everyone".....im from the west, in fact Canada, they are very open to discussion and well informed generally, you'll die a bit inside should you see how tolerant the multicultural community here is, thats precisely how it should be.

[MissCaulks]

@zayde90 More and more lies from that crock of crap that is zayde90.The Qur'an, with statements such as 9:5 (there are many many more) certainly call for spreading islam by the sword. However, I can't help but laugh at how you completely ignore the Hadith which very clearly show that domination is clearly the goal of Islam. I guess it is exactly what I should expect from a follower of a religion that allows you to lie to achieve the goal of spreading Islam. Read Reliance of the Traveller fool.

[zayde90]

@MissCaulks why MissCaulks why? why did you have to be so ignorant? 9:5 love that ayah typical Islam: kill them wherever they are, ambush them. reading on: grant them protection if they yeild, a treaty with the Messenger? wait wut?....OOOOOHHHH this is a historical incident which happened which is being taken out of context. THIS IS PRECISELY WHY MISSCAULKS YOU FAIL, WHAT YOU STARTED HERE IS BEYOND YOU, ALWAYS HAS BEEN SO KEEP TALKING YOUR CREDIBILITY HAS TURNED TO ASH

[Keithava]

@zayde90 It is stated 91 times in the Koran that Muslims must follow the

example of Muhammad in every detail. Just ponder the implications of

that. Religion of peace my arse.

[zayde90]

@Keithava you're probably right, 91 times muslims are told to follow the example of Muhammad, i have pondered and understood to a very large degree the implications. you may choose to go their if you wish, but it serves no purpose as im familiar with the allegations that are always presented which are highly unauthentic, out of context and fruitless. in this case irrelevant; neither Muhammad or the Quran sanctions honor killings in anyway, still waiting on the magical list by MissCaulks

[MissCaulks]

@zayde90 Hey twit, you may want to read the hadith as well as Reliance of the Traveller before you bother wasting everyone's time w/ your lies regarding islam and murder. Muhammed, the Hadith, as well as RotT all very clearly condone and in fact demand murder when someone has committed apostacy, criticized "the prophet" (piss be upon him). As for the list, I'm still waiting for the pussy tr0llinator to answer my question b4 I bother. Besides, people like you are resistant to the truth anyway.

[zayde90]

@MissCaulks You can quote dozens of verses here, but you will utterly fail to understand its context and the process through which it should be interpreted. ROT is a very esteemed book of jurisprudence, however, the average person hasn’t even heard of it because it’s laws aren’t applicable. Until there isn’t an Islamic government with a Khalifah as head, these laws cannot be practiced, even if such a government did come into existence, such cases will go through a criminal trial process.

[MissCaulks]

@zayde90 You used "their" incorrectly (big shock). Anyway, Muhammed (piss be upon him) personally murdered hundreds if not thousands. That's the "great man" par excellance whom you follow. he was also a rapist and a pedophile. Good call on your role model. You can lie all you want saying he didn't advocate murder. The fact is we see through your BS and your lies simply fail.

[MissCaulks]

@zayde90 I think it says alot that your political movement of Islam spawns terrorist attacks worldwide every single day. 18,000 plus since 9/11 and going up every day. Pray tell junior, how is it that we aren't seeing catholic terrorits doing this every day? Buddhists? Hindu's? Atheists? Satanists? Pick your poison, no ideology is as hate filled and has as much blood on it as Islam. Yes, Islam has spread, but the world is finally sick of it, you, and your kind. Salaam indeed, liar.

[CatchYaser4murder]

Pam you could have used Amina and Sarah’s names! Why are you taking the name of a girl where there is such a dispute? YOU BLEW AN OPPORTUNITY to get the Saids to go public! THINK! Amina and Sarah were better examples and their father is STILL OUT THERE and WANTED! What a waste! Change the name use Amina and Sarah. We have more on this case than your helpers and would give you what you need. The Amina and Sarah Said Human Rights Conference. DUH! You had press exposure you could have used.

[rob4b]

fox majority share holders are middle east backers, do not mention islam, fox are well and truly censored. The culture surrounding women in islam is one of fear and second class status. The reason this happened was because women are just chattel in islam. If this happened in the middle east no one would be brought to book. Call it what you want honour or not. It doesn't detract from the fact that women in islam are routinely killed because they are of no worth what shocking is family do it.

[zayde90]

@rob4b rest assured, women in every culture are killed because they are 'perceived' to have "no worth". every uneducated backward bunch have their names for this crime and that bunch includes the americans, english, chinese or whoever, just labelled something else and shown in a different light. This needs to also be made clear that there is not a single islamic verse or scripture that supports honour killing in anyway, in the middle east this man would be a head shorter by now

[rob4b]

@zayde90 Oh no not another islamic fool in denial. Your leader mo the pedo fucked a 9 year old child when he was 47 had many wifes. He is such a great example for how to treat women.Can a women in the middle east choose her partner? does she have the right to live with her partner and not be married? can she leave islam? can she not where a bag over her. Can she have more than 1 husband? your a fool of all fools you sexist islamic fuckers. fuck a goat not a women you delusional fool.

[zayde90]

@rob4b u obviously don't have clue about islamic principles, muhammad's life, or the middle east, arab customs, marriages and what they mean politically and socially. if theres one person whose fucking a goat, it was your mom and as a result you were born, thus your inclined to believe any bullshit you read on the internet, i.e following the flock

[rob4b]

@zayde90 your so wise you pedo lover.you customs are backward, you a sexist ignorant prick.mo the pedo came from a goats arse.shat from a poor goat who had to force this shit out, Islamic principle where born of shit. if islam disappeared tommorow shit like you would know how to treat humanity. Unfortunately you and your shit will continue to rape, murder and control women because you have no humanity, follow the flock a bit rich coming from a muzza, you follow a pedo desert fool, wear a burka

[zayde90]

@rob4b pity for you than that Islam only recently outnumbered the catholic numbers and remains 2nd largest religion in the world, also happens to be one of the fastest growing. your rambling isn't very convincing, neither is this pamela geller-often hosted on FOX news cause the network is notorious for their 'credibility', last time she was on CNN she looked like an idiot. all in all, islamic theology continues to move billions while the best you can do is pedo that, goat arse this...pathetic

[rob4b]

@zayde90 pity you more like. The fools who follow the teaching of this warlord pedo.To try and have a discussion with someone who has a mind from the 6th century is futile. To follow this ideology the person has to suspended reason, understanding and humanity. Islam has no spiritually but hate, it has no love of humanity. I feel sorry for muslims as they will never enjoy the world and it's beauty. Confined to ignorance, hate, brutality, sexism, Paranoia and violence.

[zayde90]

@rob4b reason isn't just a instantaneous thought, its developed over the course of time. every civilizations laws originate from centuries way before the 6th. so your implication that anyone from the 6th century is misunderstanding or inhumane is a joke. nevertheless. considering I and people whose religions stretch back thousands of years believe the reasoning to be divine, thus, it transcends the flaws of human reasoning. however, a God, no God discussion is irrelevant don't you think?

[MissCaulks]

@zayde90 Ah yes, but the difference between islam and every other ideology is that no other ideology believe it should remain stuck back in the time of its origin. Islam however longs for a return the those good old 6th century ways an times. Innovation is a bad thing under islam. Seriously, women can't even drive in saudi arabia. That is how backwards islamic thinking is.

[MissCaulks]

@zayde90 YOUR rambling is what is completely unconvincing. As for Pamela, she is just one person among many who aren't afraid to speak up regarding islam's thug tactics. Pamela has very obviously reached a ton of people and is obviously perceived as a threat by your death cult, otherwise why would you even bother to be on here? LOL No denying that is there chump? Oh, and the fact that your "religion" has suckered in the stupidest 1/6th of the planet is hardly compelling evidence of its merit.

[zayde90]

@MissCaulks im welll acquainted with where pamela appears, you don't have to look past FOX news and we all know how credible the network is. last time she was on CNN, she looked like a lunatic. As for "stupidest 1/6th of the planet"...you are a racist and xenophobic, a label that impairs your understanding, sprouts up in your arguments and makes you look highly unprofessional and stupid.

[MissCaulks]

@zayde90 AH, and I love how you attempt to minimize the perversity of Muhammed w/ your comment " the best you can do is pedo that". Yeah, how dare someone belittle muhammed (feces be upon him) for something as trivial as having sex with a 9 year old girl who was still playing with dolls at the time. I see what you are. You justify and rationalize sex with children. Shows me that you are just as sick and demented as your "prophet".

[zayde90]

@MissCaulks im minimizing an allegation that Muhammad (saw) worst enemies never used, because within context and history once understood, it really is a stupid argument. you really are jumping all over the place....

[MissCaulks]

@zayde90 Islamic principles?? LMAO! You mean like the Taliban's? Or how about Boko Haram's? As far as sex with goats, do yourself a favor and see for yourself who is caught on night cam in afghanistan doing the worm with donkey's and goats. Not really surprising considering you exalt in a "prophet" who was a murdering rapist pedophile. Oh, and please tell us all about the legitimacy of Muhammed (piss be upon him) having sex with a 9 year old. I bet 9 year old girls get you hot too, right?

[Keithava]

@rob4b They have the minds of muslims so screwed up that they can't think for themselves. They're not even worth my time to try to reason with this type of person so do not cast your pearls before swine, as the Bible say, unreasonable offspring of vipers is what they have become. Don't waste your time with this idiot..No matter what they say it is still a honour killing.

[zayde90]

@Keithava LOL your reasoning has been most 'enlightening', especially the PART where you so kindly provided proof that it was a honor killing, from the same perspective, i can attribute child molestation by holy priests of the catholic church to Christian teachings, however, considering this abuse stems from celibacy (a man made law, not taught by Jesus peace be upon him), for these crimes should the christian people come under criticism (or even Christianity)?

[Keithava]

@zayde90 Love you man, Kiss, Kiss.

[zayde90]

@Keithava love you too bro, better luck next time formulating something worthy to say rather than just backing off like whipped dog.

[MissCaulks]

@zayde90 And better luck to you next time trying to rationalize the merits of a murdering pedophile and the political ideology he vomitted from his diseased mind. I agree with keithava and rob4b: arguing with an idiot like you is truly fruitless. You see, anyone who can justify wholesale genocide, sex w/ prepubescent girls, and rape of the wives of murdered enemies is incapable of rational and intelligent thought. Morons like you simply claim they're right about everything, no matter how insane.

[zayde90]

@MissCaulks wow...i thought we really had lost you, i login four days later on my youtube and what do you know...caulks has replied most admirable to all the comments ive made-she has shown resilience herself. but before i can even respond, she has decided im not worthy of her time. well thats a pity because i will reply (tmrw) so viewers of this vid realize which they did already cause of your earliest comment that your words have been futile, always have been, always will be, Islam stands

[MissCaulks]

@zayde90 Well, it's been entertaining watching you try to justify your sick ideology but I have grown tired and bored of your attempts to show the greatness of a murdering pedophile. Also I'm bored w/ your lies and unsupported claims, w/ not a single source to back a single lie of yours. So I leave you w/ this last tidbit, reply all you like but I am not wasting my intelligence nor my time on reading one more word of your BS. No less than 3 people have debunked your ass. You're ignored and lost.

[zayde90]

@MissCaulks here we are again, read through all the replies i made, others certainly will considering their front page, 3 people have attempted to debunk something that has stood for 1400 years, an empire, advanced the sciences and civilization and has followers that number in billions, you lads on the other hand have dealt yourself blows by delving into racism and xenophobia. MissCaulks, i formally declare that you have failed to present and defend your initial and the arguments thereafter.

[MissCaulks]

@zayde90 No no. I would LOVE to hear where in the bible there is even the slightest hint that it is okay to molest a young boy. The fact is, Jessica was murdered b/c her idiotic islamic father felt she was dishonoring Islam, becoming "too westernized", taking off her Hijab (which she hated wearing), not adhering to muslim customs. When she stopped wearing the Hijab, he was furious. We've seen it time and again with Islam: a women doesn't follow the religion tot he letter, the man murders her

[zayde90]

@MissCaulks thats precisely the point i made, priests molesting boys is not characteristic of the christian creed, you clearly got confused.

[MissCaulks]

@zayde90 And said murders are indeed condoned in the Hadith. You know, that pesky little collection of writings regarding Muhammed's life and teachings that you repeatedly avoid bringing up. Reliance of the Traveller also sheds alot of light on justification of honor killings. I'm sure you'll avoid that texts qualifications too. I mean after all, it is only certified by al-azhar university, the world's leading islamic learning institution. But I'm sure you know more then they do, right? LOL

[rob4b]

@Keithava yes you have reminded me the stupidity of my discusions with muslims.Sometimes the obvious ignorance you hear and see from these people just winds me up and i have to write something. They may wake up from this nightmare one day.

[MissCaulks]

@zayde90 Sorry, but in the middle east this man would probably not even be tried. have you noteven been following what has been going on in Afghanistan to women? Oh, and please enlighten all of us as to what other ideology has stated that a woman's testimony is worth half that of a mans? Only in Islam pal. Oh! And in what other religion is a women at risk of being stoned for having the unmitigated gall of being raped? Only in islam baby! Only in Islam.

[zayde90]

@MissCaulks Islam does not derive its laws from the Middle Eastern criminal court, if you for a second think shariah is fully applied in the those countries you like i said before are ill informed and delving into something beyond you. As for punishment for adultery, you must not be familiar with customs and punishments from other cultures.

[christo930]

Why would she do this to this family? I don't think you have the legal right to use someone's name without consent. She will probably be sued for this. Why create all of the controversy and hurt this family? Why not just call it the stop honor killings conference?

[XxJeffSimmonsxX]

I'm willing to bet that 99% of the anti-Islamic comments on this video come from people who have never been to the Middle East. Muslims don't go around raping, murdering, and abusing women. In fact, a strong argument could be made that western societies treat their women with less respect.

[malsifood]

It is a cultural thing if it is practiced in certain cultures but it is religous dogma if it is recommended in a holy book!

And it is recommended in the quran!

The story about Khizr: when he shows Moses how to behave correctly!

It says: (Kihzr salugtered their son because "his parents are true believers, and we feared lest he would grieve them with his rebellion and unbelief"

So if you just fear your kids would eventually abandon islam is enough to kill them!

What a bronze age bullshit!

[MilanpavicBelgium]

This stepmother is a real bitch. Her body language signals she's lying through her teeth.

[Tr0llinator]

@MilanpavicBelgium

How is her body language showing her lies ,when you cant see her body?

[MilanpavicBelgium]

@Tr0llinator Body language: is your talking head perhaps no part of your body?

[Tr0llinator]

@MilanpavicBelgium

Head is different is not a body. How is her head showing that she is a lair?

[MilanpavicBelgium]

@Tr0llinator If you don't understand this, it's of little use trying to explain. Let me say this: when somebody states something or answers a question, it is possible to see wether that person is honest or not. Trained people can read faces. This is how Israel uncovers terrorists during questioning.

[Tr0llinator]

@MilanpavicBelgium

Are you serious? If you cant explain how her "body language" is showing her to be a lair , then I can assume that you have no idea what you are talking about.

[MilanpavicBelgium]

@Tr0llinator Go to a psychiatrist in your neighbourhood, and show him the video. He will tell you precisely WHEN she is lying through her teeth.

[MilanpavicBelgium]

Well done Pamela !

[repsac3]

When you start using someone's death to promote your cause against the wishes of the family, you're no better than Fred Phelps.

[alwrig]

Hey, Cassandra, what's your defense of the Shafia Three? Or do you really believe all four of those women in the car were killed by careening into 8 feet of water?

[mlabcxk2]

Islam is doomed.

[Theskybluelake]

Give step dad the death peanalty...now THAT would be an honor killing

[thejihadresistance]

Pathetic that the woman in the family are under the demonic spell of Islam

[Keithava]

Do you know why they call them honor killings?

A young girl was just raped by her cousin..Father says "Would you do the honor of throwing the first stone?" to the rapist.

Muslim rapist says "It would be an honor for me since you went first last time" Father says to the Family and crowd "Today you all have the honor of being here at this stoning"

And you though it was for shaming the family name, which would be hard since they all are named the same.

[Keithava]

Of course the family will deny that it had anything to do with a Honour killing, they are frickin muslims and believe in this crap. The arse was also obsessed with the girl, even nine year olds or younger turn the muslim men on. They rape anything that moves and then try to blame it on the victims. May the conference go on and expose islam for what it truly is, pure evil. Go Pamela.

[Tr0llinator]

@Keithava

Your argument is a Logical fallacy. Saying that they would deny it being an honor killing because they are Muslim is not a valid argument. You need to look at the circumstances between the step-dad and the girl to determine whether it was a honor killing or not. Do you know the family and what the situation was like?

[christo930]

@Keithava Do you agree with the Christian boy who stoned a man to death because he was gay? Do you think that all Christians support this act? He got the punishment right out of the bible and it's exactly what he told the police was his reason for doing it.

[Keithava]

@christo930 Do you know of an preachers that are telling its members that it is OK to stone gays? Do you know of any American government that is saying it is OK to kill gays or hang them for being gay? When was the last time you heard a Christian Preacher say "Kill the muslims and Christians will rule the world" Do you see videos of the American government using a sword and cutting the heads off of gays? I can tell that you are a muslim, always twist the truth or avoid the truth.

[christo930]

@Keithava Everyone of those things happened 300 years ago. Christianity has been through a reformation and loss of power, but when they had the power, they abused it terribly. FYI... I am an atheist who grew up Catholic.

[Keithava]

@christo930 It might have happened 300 years ago and can be used as an example and a warning but it is what people are doing today that counts. Times have changed, people have changed. We can't live in the past and what happened then. Religion has been the problem from the start and will continue to be. And just because you are an atheist doesn't mean that you are unaware of the truth and the facts of what happened with this family. Forget religion, murder is murder.

[christo930]

@Keithava I don't know anything about this family or what happened to the girl. I am not against the conference, but they should drop the girl's name. There are endless women's names they can use. Why not use the woman who had her head chopped off with a sword by the "moderate" Muslim that started a TV network to showcase moderate Islam?

[zayde90]

@Keithava my god, i thought the last person was fucking retarded....you sir take the top honours for the most irrelevant, mindless and utter bullshit exhibiting individual in this comment section.

[Keithava]

@zayde90 I see that you can't stand to hear the truth..You can call me a retard, mindless, stupid, a racist, a bigot, a fag or what ever you want..At least I am not called a muslim. Being a follower of something called allah is the greatest insult I can think of..Islam is going down, that is why they are fighting so hard to keep it going, just a last futile attempt.  Shalom

[zayde90]

@Keithava I see...so you've been called all those things...and yet here you are, stubborn and stupid as ever, unrelenting regardless of all the titles you may hold. if theres one thing thats futile, its an intelligent and decent point of view from you.

[MissCaulks]

@zayde90 And likewise, you have been called all those things and many more no doubt, and yet here you are, still defending a sick murdering pedophile. Still here in all your stupidity, arrogance, immorality, and pig-headedness. One thing I've learned, muslims say the most idiotic drivel I have ever heard. The sad thing is, they believe it. Time for you to go, I think your camel needs refueling.

[zayde90]

@MissCaulks charge: racist and xenophobic---- evidence: exhibit B "your camel needs refueling" you continue to shoot yourself in the foot

[StoogeWatcher]

@zayde90 Islam is not a race, moron. As for the phony accusation of "xenophobia", read about how Muslim countries treat their visitors, especially Christians.

[MissCaulks]

@Keithava Well said! You are 100% correct on this! Muslims are the most truth-resistant people on the earth. Everything they say and do is right in their minds simply b/c they are muslims. And Yes, islam is going down and they are just desperate.

[MissCaulks]

@zayde90 Sorry Zaydee, but that honor is all yours (barring muhammed himself getting on here and feeding us some more of his jibberish).

[OriginalAdler24]

I think @GoyimWakeUpCall has a crush on you, definitely is "obsessed."

[MissCaulks]

The people who deny that Jessica's murder was an islamic honor killig are either lying or are incredibly stupid. It had all the traits of an Islamic honor killing. I am sure her step-father DID have an obsession with her and probably wanted to have a sexual relationshi with her. Those facts don't change the fact that this was an honor killing. I have to wonder if CAIR or some other Islamic thugs have put pressure on Jessica's family to take the actions they are taking.

[Tr0llinator]

@MissCaulks

What are the traits between this case and a honor killing?

[MissCaulks]

@Tr0llinator Before I answer your question, let me ask you a few. Do you believe the murders of the following females were honor killings: Amina and Sarah Said, Aqsa Parvez, the 3 Shafia sisters along with Rona Amir Mohammed, and Noor Faleh Almaleki? Do you believe that honor killins occur at all? Do you see that the vast majority of honor killings are committed within Islamic families? Do you see how the "facts" in Mokdad's murder have changed over the past 9 months?

[Tr0llinator]

@MissCaulks

I heard some of those killings, how about you answer my question. How this is an honor killing and not an murder committed because he could not have her?

[MissCaulks]

@Tr0llinator You heard some of those killings? Then you should have been in court as a witness. How about you answer my questions first like I asked? I'm not going to waste my time with a troll who believes honor killings don't exist at all or that they are justified by Islam. It's very simple: answer my questions (each of them) and I will answer yours. You can look up the cases online. Mokdad's murder had MANY traits in common with other honor murders. If you want to know which, answer me. 

[Tr0llinator]

@MissCaulks

First of all, my question was first, so you should answer my question. This is a basic rule in logic. Second, I heard of the murders, not seen them, so why would I be called in as a witness. Third , I believe that honor killings exist because I recognized the ones who listed. The ones I said I should have been a witness . Also look it up is not an argument.

[MissCaulks]

@Tr0llinator Show me where "the one asking first requires the first answer" is named as a "basic rule of logic". It isn't. 2nd, you said you heard the murders. That is why I said you should have been a witness. Also, look it up is indeed an argument. Educate yourself on the cases and decide if you believe those are honor murders. Look, either you believe the cases I named are honor killngs or you don't. If you're not going to answer then I am not bothering with your tired evasions any longer.

[Tr0llinator]

@MissCaulks

You really think "look it up" is a valid argument?!?! Wow. "Show me where the one asking "first requires the first answer" is named as a basic rule of logic".The only source where I have written example is in my textbooks ,so I dont think it will satisfy you , but I will explain why it basic rule . You are avoiding the question and switching the argument towards the other person, it is very sneaky and I dont fall for sneakiness.

[MissCaulks]

@Tr0llinator "Look it up" is a very reasonable request. Read up on those murders and tell me whether or not you consider them honor killings. Wow, in this day and age with the internet and all I didn't think it was that great of a task. Sorry I taxed your abilities too heavily. As for your sources, I call BS: Title, Author, publisher, edition and page numbers please. Unlike you, I have no problem "looking up" whether or not a claim is true.

[MissCaulks]

@Tr0llinator Oh, and I'm not being sneaky, I said I will list the traits, just like you asked, if you just answer those few questions. I have avoided nothing. I will list the facts pertinent to this case once you do. Only reason I can see that you would be afraid to answer those questions is b/c you know damn good and well you are on shakey ground and that this was an honor murder.

[Tr0llinator]

@MissCaulks

Answering the question with questions was the sneaky part and to be honest I dont even remember the questions. Also, you want to be a sneaky liar.... wow because I dont. I must have a better character than you.

[MissCaulks]

@Tr0llinator Nope, said I would answer exactly what you asked if you would just answer my few questions,which are easily found by simply scrolling up. Since you have failed to name your "sources" and have repeatedly engaged in this petty dodging tactic, I will no longer acknowledge any reply from you or any other CAIR spin doctor. You had your chance to engage in an intelligent debate but you failed. I'm not wasting another second responding to or even reading any reply from you. Buh-Bye.

[Tr0llinator]

@MissCaulks

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I heard of the murders the same way you did..... from the news! Why did the hell did you say I should be a witness.?

[sheri226]

@MissCaulks I don't understand how you come to this conclusion. If anyone dishonored the family, it was the stepfather, not the stepdaughter. Honor killings are done when the person brings dishonor to the family.. she didn't bring dishonor, he did, so how do you justify this being an honor killing? You also said: "I have to wonder if CAIR or some other Islamic thugs have put pressure on Jessica's family to take the actions they are taking." So do you think the cops are "in on it" as well?

[MissCaulks]

@sheri226 Logically, I agree w/ what you are saying. In reality she brought no dishonor to the family, but he did by committing this murder. However, it is not called an honor killing b/c actual honor was offended but b/c perceived honor was offended. The father felt Jessica was "dishonoring" the families Islamic tradition. In order to uphold this "honor" he murdered her. As far as the cops, very simple: they could easily be being pressured to be PC about this case, very common.

[zayde90]

@MissCaulks WTF?? you just said in your first line that anyone that doesn't agree with you is "lying or incredibly stupid"...next up, you labelled the killing having all the traits of an honour killing but failed to mention these traits...if those traits constitute the father having "an obsession with her...or to have a sexual relationship with her" than you need to look up honour killings because you are utterly stupid and ignorant.

[MissCaulks]

@zayde90 1 of 3 First of all, I never said "that anyone that doesn't agree with (me) is "lying or incredibly stupid". I said "people who deny that Jessica's murder was an islamic honor killing are either lying or are incredibly stupid". Second, I didn't list the traits mainly due to a lack of space. If I had known the idiot squad was going to join in demanding to know what these obvious traits were I guess I would have listed them, b/c they are certainly there. Third, I don't know if....

[zayde90]

@MissCaulks 1-"people who deny that Jessica's murder was an islamic honor killing are either lying or incredibly stupid." there is not a single verse from ANY islamic scripture that advocates honour killing in any form. the burden of proof-according to all the laws of argument-falls to you to provide. “I didn’t list due to….lack of space” looking forward to your list of traits and how its a "Islamic honor killing", i expect facts.

[MissCaulks]

@zayde90 Complete and total lies from a typical BS filled Islamopologist. Guess you completely skipped over the Hadith didn't you. How convenient you dip shit. Take a quick skim of al-Bukhari and then feed me your "there is no scripture that advocates" murder BS. As for the traits, they were all in the press until CAIR pressured the press to whitewash the whole thing. No biggie though, Islamic thugs like you are impervious to those little things called facts. It was an honor kiling. Deal w/ it.

[zayde90]

@MissCaulks the words you use makes you very transparent and the sources you use to weave your flawed arguments, islamopologist lol, i can see through you. if my memory serves me correct i said "no scripture that advocates honor killings" conveniently you left that part out in quoting and subbed in murder instead, must i remind of your islamic honor killing trait list......CAIR and conspiracy, to be honest i dont even know what CAIR is

[MissCaulks]

@zayde90 2 of 3 your first language is English or not, but you have very obviously misunderstood the 3rd and 4th sentences of my original post. If it isn't English I suppose I can understand the confusion. If your 1st language IS English then you are a moron. I stated that the step-father likely "DID have an obsession with her and probably wanted to have a sexual relationshi with her" and then followed that by saying "Those facts don't change the fact that this was an honor killing." You see...

[MissCaulks]

@zayde90 3 of 3 the video here tries to claim it was NOT an honor killing b/c he was infatuated w/ her. I point out that even though he may have been infatuated w/ her, that does not mean that this was not an honor killing. So, sorry you got your wires crossed but I am NOT saying that his desire to have sex w/ her makes this an honor killing, I am saying this was an honor killing anyway, even if he wasn't wanting to have sex w/ her. Sorry to tax your feeble brain so heavily. Try reading more.

[zayde90]

@MissCaulks 2,3-take note i said "if you believe...", since you failed to mention these traits in your original post, but speculated that the father wanted to have a "sexual relationship" due to his "obsession", a incestuous intent would directly contradict his morality and sense of honor, thus your speculation would render the argument FOR this being an honor killing false on the pretense of the two ideas being inconsistent with each other.

[MissCaulks]

@zayde90 Wow, you are obviously retarded and have no grasp as to the line of logic that was being used.  Simply put (I'll try to use simple words for you); whether he wanted to have sex with her or not, this was an honor killing. He did not kill her for sex. Was she raped? No. He killed her for bringing "dishonor" to him. Please try to educate yourself a bit, hmm? If you like, I can mail you a coloring book if it will help make this easier for you to understand.

[zayde90]

@MissCaulks he had his screwed up reasons, but i specifically targeted your points,  a "incestuous intent would directly contradict his morality and sense of honor" moreover, since you have FAILED to present a case for this being an islamic honor killing, what am I supposed to do in the meantime...send over that coloring book, ill wait on your list with good ole caryola fun

[MissCaulks]

@zayde90 And where exactly did you say "if you believe..." please point it out as i can't seem to find it anywhere on here. Not to say I am shocked. All of your comments to everyone on here have been lies. islam a religion of peace? ROFL Please tell me what other ideology spawns terrorist attacks worldwide on a daily basis (over 18,000 since 9/11 alone). You say it is a religion of peace and come on here insulting everyone and picking fights. ROFL hypocrit much? Islam is cancer.

[zayde90]

@MissCaulks "if those traits constitute..." was the phrase i used, as in in the scenario that you believe that to be that case...i wasnt picking a fight, i simply saw an error and corrected it, simply as spell check in Word. obviously, someone who is non muslim will not accept islam, on top of that if someone is reading up on bullshit blogs that commonly use the word "cancer" will call it so, as a believer i believe its the cure.

[GoyimWakeUpCall]

PROTOCOL 13 Distractions

We distract the masses with entertainment, games, past-times, passions (porn), art and sport. They will parrot our opinions because we alone offer them new directions for thought through people (celebrities) who they don't suspect are aligned with us.

We will direct the minds of the masses towards vanity and fantastic theories that they falsely believe are new and progressive. We will turn their brainless heads with progress until they can no longer perceive the truth.

[OriginalAdler24]

@GoyimWakeUpCall we don't have "masses" in the USA. The Constitution made us individuals from the very beginning. "Masses" is so European!