god bless you. hindus dont need to say that we are a religion of peace.we dont need propaganda. we just believe in harmony and pluralism and liberty and that world is one family. about doing hindu prayer in sanete ...i feel that it is unneccerry to do so. hinduism anyways respects and loves all. aithists are highly respected by hindus. galileo galilie would never be hanged if he was born in india. every great idea starts off a blasfemy. god bless america! god bless india!
Who said Hinduism is polytheistic??...........The Hindus worship One and only God, Brahman Supreme............The various gods u see are just different representations of him...........Plz refer 2 the Vedas n the Upanishads.
@sizzlewithabir i agree to a point but not completely. This is what i have understood.
There is the trinity: Brahma, Vishnu and mahesh(shiva)
There are devtas (angels) and asuras (devils)
Brahma is more like a position and it changes every yuga. In most of the pictures Brahma will be shown sitting on an umbilical cord coming from vishnu.
Shiva is know to be the left hand of vishnu. ( i cannot express it properly in English)
The rest of the millions of Gods are all avatars of the trinity.
@CodeNamedAsdfg12345 Also the concept of God is not the same as that of Abrahmic religions. God is more like consciousness and is there in everyone of us. you can search on YouTube: Consciousness: mind over matter. (this video is somewhat good)
The pictorial representation of Gods have a lot to do with astrology and other scientific disciplines.
So God as such is not a person but an energy. Also Hinduism or Jainism or Buddhism are not more of religions but are a way of life (a philosophy )
@CodeNamedAsdfg12345 Actually, Brahma and Brahman are not equivalent terms. Brahman is the Constant universal Consciousness who is the God of the Hindus. Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva are his three personalities based on His functions, quite similar to Modalism. The Vedas clearly declare, "Brahman is One and Only without a Second.", "That which is One, the poets give many a name." and "In the beginning, there was only the absolute Self (Brahman)"
• “If moral precepts alone could have reformed mankind, the mission of the Son of God into our world would have been unnecessary.”
"Let the children who are sent to those schools be taught to read and write and above all, let both sexes be carefully instructed in the principles and obligations of the Christian religion. This is the most essential part of education”
Letters of Benjamin Rush, "To the citizens of Philadelphia: A Plan for Free Schools", March 28, 1787
"Without Religion this World would be Something not fit to be mentioned in polite Company, I mean Hell." [John Adams to Thomas Jefferson, April 19, 1817] |
"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." : October 11, 1798
@TXatheist "Without Religion this World would be Something not fit to be mentioned in polite Company, I mean Hell." [John Adams to Thomas Jefferson, April 19, 1817]
"Without Religion this World would be Something not fit to be mentioned in polite Company, I mean Hell." [John Adams to Thomas Jefferson, April 19, 1817]
“ The general principles upon which the Fathers achieved independence were the general principals of Christianity… I will avow that I believed and now believe that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God.”
• “[July 4th] ought to be commemorated as the day of deliverance by solemn acts of devotion to God Almighty.”
–John Adams in a letter written to Abigail on the day the Declaration was approved by Congress
I'm looking at the Constitutional Conventions, Schedule right now and they didn't even meet on Sunday in observance of Sunday the day of the LORD. People who don't think they are accountable, for what they have done and don't believe in Christ, NOW that is crazy. Good Luck!
@LambLion777 Right, the Deistic lord was what they believed in. It's crazy to believe in christ, he's a imaginary friend for people who can't deal with reality, good luck.
People who don't believe in Christ sentence themselves against Him, His Saints, and His Angels. You have put a curse on yourself. I truly feel sorry for you and your family. May you find God once again, before you hurt yourself or the family God gave you.
@LambLion777 ...my son jesus is the son of god and he needs to accept him. There was no christ, and are no angels. I'm as worried about this curse as you are that allah will send you to hell. You are too misinformed to feel sorry for me. My family came from devotion to my wife and then sex to create my son. God did nothing.
@TXatheist God gave you, your wife through His Divine understanding of you in HIS love. Your son, was also made by GOD. The Lord is the divine Creator of all life, which can give someone life or take it. It is the spark of life, which contains HIS light. It is only through HIS Power, Wisdom, and Majesty that man has either has to borrow from His elements of HIS nature to even make anything. Say out loud if Jesus is Lord Prove it to me! Go for it! What do you have to lose, but non-faith?
@LambLion777 Nope, god is imaginary and gave me nothing. If my wife and I didn't have sex I would not have a son. It's our gift to each other. God can take life? God...kill me dead now! Nothing happened for good reason...no god. I have self-respect to lose when I know god is but a myth. I can't lie to myself for your benefit to feel better about believing in a god. You believe, I don't.
The three branches of the U.S. Government: Judicial, Legislative, Executive
• At the Constitutional Convention of 1787, James Madison proposed the plan to divide the central government into three branches. He discovered this model of government from the Perfect Governor, as he read Isaiah 33:22;
@TXatheist Just for kicks and jiggles. You can got to Coral Ridge Ministries and find out what the "Real Thomas Jefferson" was like. I doubt you'll want to hear the Truth. DR. James Kennedy I doubt you will. I dare you!
@LambLion777 I double dare you to realize Kennedy is not going to tell you the truth. He's a xian that loves to sell books to xians so he tells them what they want to hear to sell his books.
@TXatheist Dr. Kennedy is with the Lord for the past into Glory couple of years, now. May his teaching and his Church, be strong until the end of time.
“God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are a gift from God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, and that His justice cannot sleep forever.” (excerpts are inscribed on the walls of the Jefferson Memorial in the nations capital)
God governs in the affairs of man. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without his notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without His aid? We have been assured in the Sacred Writings that except the Lord build the house, they labor in vain that build it. I firmly believe this. I also believe that, without His concurring aid, we shall succeed in this political building no better than the builders of Babel Constitutional Convention of 1787 Manuscript of this speech Ben Franklin
“In the beginning of the contest with Britain, when we were sensible of danger, we had daily prayers in this room for Divine protection. Our prayers, Sir, were heard, and they were graciously answered… do we imagine we no longer need His assistance?” [Constitutional Convention, Thursday June 28, 1787 : Ben Franklin]
@LambLion777 "the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion" President Adams signs the only founding US document mentioning christ/christian/christianity.
Sorry you believe in lies, there truly is nothing else I can do for you. As we all do, people change, which is what you have chosen is to believe a lie. Because it relieves your conscience not to believe in God. If you only knew for all who are in Christ Jesus, their is no condemnation. His love I can not deny. You are offended, because your soul is conflicted with your carnal mind of men. Scripture is in Tim 2, is God Breathed. God used men to write the Bible, true. To reach all personalities.
@LambLion777 If you think you were intellectually able to enlighten me on something I suggest you rethink that. It relieves my conscience not to perpetuate mythology as true. Jesus was imaginary and you need to look up the jesuspuzzle by Earl Doherty. I'm offended someone deceived you with this nonsense. Men borrowed from earlier religions to make up the bible and the council of nicea was a group of men that voted on which books made the bible.
No. My friend, you chose not to believe, because you have a heart issue. Atheist are angry with God. You decided to fill your mind with the studies of man rather than God. I'm not going to argue about our Founding Fathers, I know they were mostly all Christian if not all. The simple fact is, I understand what Truths that run into Faith and Truths that run into social realms. I'm not offended by you, but I do get pissed, when innocence of children get taken by atheists, like yourself.
@LambLion777 You choose to believe because you have a brain issue. Do you like when I tell you why you are the way you are? Me either. I'm not angry with god but people that perpetuate the bible as true with regard to the supernatural. There are no studies of god, just studies of gods man made up. I know the FF were not xians except Pat Henry. Innocence of children? What are you talking about? I don't go around telling kids god is make believe but I"ve had friends/relatives tell my...
@TXatheist Whatever you post can be seen by everyone. Maybe you should reconsider, what you post and what you are doing. There again, not taking responsible action, for anything you post. "I don't go around telling kids God is..." Liar.
“ It has been the error of the schools to teach astronomy, and all the other sciences, and subjects of natural philosophy, as accomplishments only; whereas they should be taught theologically, or with reference to the Being who is the author of them: for all the principles of science are of divine origin. Man cannot make, or invent, or contrive principles: he can only discover them; and he ought to look through the discovery to the Author.” Book by,Thom.Paine"The Existence of God"
@LambLion777 Right, Thomas Paine was as deist. Paine was also educated before we knew the big bang was science so he gave credit to a god. We now understand that to be his ignorance or if still used today the god of the gaps fallacy.
Whoop D. Do! Really, a philosophy course? No wonder you are an Atheist, mess! Man's love of his own knowledge, WOULD make you an Atheist, I'll give you that! LOL Have you ever studied Psychology? You see, there is this little Greek word called, "Psyche" I have a problem with. I don't mind sharing this, with you. Psyche, is you "Soul". If anyone other than a Spiritual man, was to study your soul, they are going to give you the wrong information, for it.
@LambLion777 Of course it's man's knowledge cause that's all we have. If you think a god wrote or inspired anything you are more than a mess, you're naively ignorant. If you can find a man that can locate my soul on an anatomy chart you might have a point but you aren't even close. A spiritual man is just going to give me a fairy tale that I comprehend already is simply a fairy tale.
I highly disagree with you. I wrote an final paper in secular college on the subject which received and A on. From a very secular professor on Government. 3 claimed to be Unitarian, and was not the same as it was today. It was to study all religions to eventually find Christ as the Center of all Spiritual life. Sorry, but it's true.
@LambLion777 Wrong, Thomas Paine clearly stated he was a Deist. Jefferson was a Unitarian/Deist so much that he cut out the supernatural nonsense of the bible to create the Jefferson bible. I wrote a paper in college for philosophy class and got an A for showing how the FF supported the separation of church and state much more than we allow today with under god in the pledge, on our currency, the US motto, and faith-based funding. Jesus is not the center of unitarianism. Sorry, you are wrong
@LambLion777 Nope, many FF were Deists not christians and some were Unitarian which is not christian. You also have to remember the FF just left Europe where freethinkers were persecuted like when FF Thomas Paine was put under house arrest for writing his book, The Age of Reason. This was also before most knew evolution and the big bang were common scientific knowledge.
Just wanted to let you know that Hinduism is not polytheistic. It is in fact monotheistic as it believes in one Supreme Being, all the deities being simply avatars of that Supreme Being.
so would you rather a muslim offer prayers in the senate ? non monotheistic is your complaint ? lol . you dont even know god, but you worry about god or gods or goddesses. strange.
@killintymm I worry because as every test has shown intercessory prayer is useless and religion should not be in politics, especially useless rituals. p.s. No one knows god, some are just delusional.
@TXatheist i agree, i dont support it either and this guy who came in looked aritificial and im sure he didnt know god . but my point was against the reasoning behind the objections. let them ban it fully, but dont ban it because you think it is polytheistic and other problems they have with hinduism when they dont really know anything about it and this objection assumes they really know who god is and what exactly its supposed to be.
@TXatheist all religions are in a mess. the monotheistic more popular religions more so. islam, christianity are constantly pointing fingers at each other and the other religions claiming they are right and others are bound to hell. atleast the hindu doesnt go around telling you that you are headed to hell or eternal fire , never claims he has monopoly over god. didnt mean to lecture, sorry. i agree with your point but i hope i made my point. peace
GOD is EVERYTHING but he can create beings that are a PART of GOD like JESUS or the hindu Deitys that represent the different aspects of GOD (Singular) manifested into physical Beings (Multiple).
i cant be bothered to explain it properly do some research before you say Hindus worship many gods.
@topbluffa1 so if I believe in Hinduism from a polytheistic perspective Im wrong? I worship multiple gods and goddesses so according to you I am deluded?
@topbluffa1 no i dont want to recognize any different aspect of any shit. to me kali ma is kali ma. shiva is shiva. and elephant headed ganesha is ganesha. its a whole family of pantheon.
lakshmi is lakshmi.
i am a polytheist. i believe in many gods.
to say this family is "manifestation of different aspects of something" is a blatant lie.
so this "something" "manifests" as different things? so basically you are so some sort of a retarded wannabe monotheist correct?
@topbluffa1 as far as I've read about islam, a muslim will call you an infidel that creates his own gods and goddesses but pretends that this is ultimately a singular deity.
and i have to agree with it.
you have multiple anthropomorphic deities and you want to reconcile with them as being an expression of one singular divinity.
i think you are a shameless liar. a wannabe monotheist.
i think this is an attempt to level up your religious system with the abrahamic religion.
Thank you - I call myself a Hindu Atheist - Rama doesn't care if you belong to a religion or not, as long as you are a good person, she is never far from us. Also check out Karma & Rebirth. I dislike the popular notion - Karma is about being held accountable for our actions. A christian pedophile escapes to heaven, but a hindu must come back & make amends. It is important to realize that he is not going to be punished, but he is not going to get away with it either.
Moksha, Enlightenment is earned, not given or begged for, unlike Heaven. That's the essential differnece between the two. Getting to heaven is not that difficult, all a pedophile or a terrorist needs to do is to beg like a dog. He gets to enjoy heaven while his living victims live thru hell. Moksha is earned thru knowledge, and knowledge has to be earned, not given. A Teacher who gives pass marks to a failed student is not doing him a favor. Reach for the Higher goal, reach for Moksha.
Now think of the human body as being simply hardware. Its capable of functioning totally independently but like WinXP we can network with the creator. We have limited access to the Creator in the trinity everyone has full access which means the three systems act as one system. I have a program i use to remotely repair computes. If i upload it into your computer your computer and my computer might as well be the same machine. I will have full control over every aspect of your machine. Simple!
My computer has its own processor, hard drive, ram and can act totally on its own. So my computer is a independent device that doesn't need the networked to worked to operate. But the computer has the ability to network with other machines greatly enhancing its capabilities. Jesus developed or was born with a very complete link with God. You my say Jesus was given total access to everything. But Jesus chose to be obedient to God rather then be controlled by God.
Your computer will sit there unless you program it to do something. Networking is simple technology that exists in the year 2009. Telephones could be your example if it was 50 years ago. Jesus is a myth. look up jesuspuzzle by Earl Doherty. Semantics is all you are doing, god controlled, no wait jesus willingly obeyed...same difference and completely unverifiable but I'm sure it's your belief in your head.
Nothing is impossible. They are finding that many of those story book myths are not myths. More then likely the gods did exist. All those mythological half animal half man critters may have also existed. Who's to say that thousands of years ago we had visitors that broke our genetic code and created all kinds of animal\human hybrids. As far as people doing bad things in the name of jc, people are after all people, bin doing that for years, that do it now. Its easy to hijack a name.
Actually it's the other way around. We now know there was no global flood twenty feet over the highest mountain during man's era. We know an ark can't be made out of wood and stay together as the bible describes. The bible is a story of myths and made up except a few tribes/cities. That's call an imagination to believe in hybrids just like gods. It's easy to hijack a name and not take responsibility for ignorance as many xians do.
Very subjective goggle it & u will find as many for as against. I frankly don't know what happened exactly cause i wasn't there.But the strange thing is that almost every race on the planet talks about a great flood.A strange thing happened to me once.We were hiking in the mountains way above sea level and behold petrified clams?Big bunches of them. Conclusion, this was once under the sea. was it the great flood? No idea! But we were at 3 or 4 or maybe 5 thousand feet above sea level.
science is not a matter of vote. Yes, every mythology story started by people who lived by a large river say there was a flood. Or the claims were down in water and over millions of years platetechtonics pushed them up as the land converged.
God is far more than a data server, he could also be thought of as a master controller with great intelligence. If God chose to share total access to everything with a person that person would control everything in existence. Unlike StarTrek's Borg Jesus wasn't forced into a link with God but i think losing a really strong link with God you've had all your life would be frightening.On the cross that link was closed causing Jesus great distress, "my God, why have you forsaken me!" JC was alone
God is a fictional character in a story book, nothing more. There were many people that died at the stake 2000 years ago, if jc existed he wasn't special dying that way. Sick, but it happened. Just ask Giordano Bruno.
And the earth is flat, the moon landing was a farce! Its easy to dismiss anything that is greater then ourselves. We often have to see it too believe it. Here is a zinger for you. I'm telling you that very soon you are not going to be able to believe what you see or hear. Our tech is at the point now where your senses can be fooled. You will see what isn't there, hear sounds that come from nowhere, hear voices in your head that are not yours. Reality & Virtual reality will blur!
You do realize many magicians were how religion got started. Slight of hand has been around for centuries and fools people just like religious leaders such as jc.
Yeah JC could have faked it and there were good fakers but jc's followers would have been in on it. Jesus could not have pulled off the scams by himself. There would have been pay offs and stuff. All jc's followers went 2 their deaths for a big scam. Thousands upon thousands of people got fed 2 wild beasts, were covered in tar and were used 2 light the Appian way, were crucified and murdered in every way imaginable for a lie? Wow! JC was either a master of deception or he was who he said he was
jc never existed, the jesus myth or jesus puzzle are two websites but jc didn't fake the miracles, just story tellers made them up as they never happened. Murdered for a lie? Sure, like Branch Davidians or Heaven's gates followers. Jc was a myth.
I see you removed your comment about censorship. I'll take that as an apology for falsely accusing me of censorship. I've only blocked one guy who posted 25 comments a day and wasn't talking to anyone but just rambling and cussing and later I unblocked him explaining it was crazy to post like that.
i goofed thought u was removing stuff while i was hitting wrong buttons and i got put off because for once i'm talking 2 someone who hasn't turned into a one eyed monster,we are having a most excellent chat.Usually people i talk to will start calling me names or even threaten to kill me.Then they will censor everything.Happens time and again.Sorry i jumped the gun,but i caught it and felt dumb. I'm human,can screw up royal. Never posted long stuff on utube before. Don't know how it works yet.
You seem to have a problem understanding the concept of the trinity. It easy to understand in that we do it all the time these days. I have three computers in my house, they are all very different machines physically but they run off one really big server. These machines are all networked together but they all draw their data from the server. Without the server the other computers will still function but at a seriously reduced capacity.
And that would be 4 separate things sharing information like 4 people standing around all reading one report. If one person didn't show up to read the report it could still go on. In the xian plagiarized trinity concept jc/hg/yhwh are all intertwined so it's 4 things or polytheism.
Example:Jesus asked God if there was away 2 not be killed.He understood what was going 2 happen and asked for away out. But Jesus did what he was told 2 do, it was his choice. The program I told you about that gives me total access to another machine tells you that i'm on your machine and you can shut me down anytime you want 2. Jesus could of shut God off at any time.Jesus instead chose 2 hold the link open and had such access 2 God he is God.Like my machine linked 2 yours becomes your machine
jesus didn't do anything, a story book tells about 2 fictional beings communicating. Yes, the story could have been written that way but the guy who made it up didn't write it that way.
I find it amazing how people react 2 what Im saying, talk about controlled. Everyone shouts God is imaginary, he doesn't exist, and there can't be a God. Then like on Q start the peronal attacks, its like folks have a script.
I'm saying not only is there the one great God but there also may have been other gods 2. More then likely we have lost a great deal of history. When the Roman's burned the library at Alexandria lots of history was lost. I believe that most legends have some truth 2 them.
I'm not shouting, I'm just explaining it. There can be a god and there is, in story books. There have been hundreds of gods like Sol Invictus who is the real god behind december 25 and MIthra who was the truth and the light before jc writers plagiarized.
Want to make it known that i don't think God is a big server in the sky. What i'm doing is called modeling. Networking architecture can be used as a model to help people understand a concept about God. But think what it would be like to establish a link to God. We all have the capability of networking with God, i know this cause i have had limited success at establishing a link. It can be very intense and when i've done it i've learned a lot. Once you really know God its impossible to walk away.
Want to make it known god is imaginary. You are lying or if you really believe that stuff you are perpetuating nonsense. No one knows god but once you believe it's hard to think logically again so you remain a believer for the simplest reason of all, you don't have to think hard.
One other interesting bit. If you believe there is no God you must believe in evolution. I admire your faith in that it takes a lot more faith them i will ever have to believe that this earth and everything thats on it was a huge accident! I can't even go there! lol! Bye now!
No, I understand evolution is a fact. Francis Collins also believes in jc and realizes evolution is a fact. No faith involved, just basic science knowledge.
There are many things we can't verify but we know do exist. 200 years ago if i told you this little box can send out a Radio wave that can communicate to another black box they would say i was crazy. On paper they understood electrical waves but they had no instruments that could observe them. Many people today say they believe in extraterrestrial beings but we don't believe in inter dimensional brings. We understand our universe but can't fathom alternate universes.
No, i"d ask how it works and you'd explain radio waves. Then we could verify them thru radio frequency detectors like an FM radio does. Right, people believe in the tooth fairy, santa, big foot, god, elves and leprechauns cause they like the stories. Our limitation on science doesn't mean they don't exist but there is no basis for them to exist except we all know the stories are made up about them all.
Actually i love radios, restored some nice ones. Been building radios since the 60's. Well there is no basis for God if you dismiss every peace of evidence around you. I call this the Muslim approach. The muslins will till you there was no Jewish temple while shoveling out the artifacts. Evolution worked in the 50's when we were all taught simple cell theory. We've come a long way since the 50's, the simple cell has been found to be so complex its frightening. Micro miniature motors that spin.
god made this pc? Nope. I see you are going down the irreducible complexity road and the miniature motors also "cousins" that do not spin but that's evolution for you.
I've worked around scientists and professors and frankly most of them are disgusted at the state of affairs today. Science today at many levels is politically motivated. If i discovered anything that contradicted the people in control i would loose my funding, loose my accreditation, might even loose my life. Been told this by more then one scientist. A time is coming soon where we will not be able to even talking like we are now. Its sad where we are going.
gfreed, I've listened and talked to science teachers and many are disgusted at the watered down science. The few that apply for grants have to be careful but the privately or self funded do not.
A baby is much like a computer in that it comes with a very basic operating system and not much else. A computer come with a BIOS which tells the system how to learn. Networking topography and hardware is anything but simple, it only seems simple with our hightly sophisticated computer systems. I've seen working with computers now since the 70's. Computers are incredible devices. Telephones can indeed be used as remote control devices. archaic by todays standards but doable. Acoustic modems
I think not knowing something is far different then rejecting something. Natives left to themselves will eventually worship something. Man has a built in need to worship. Exploiting that need gives governments great power. Atheism is a religious belief system. You must have faith in your beliefs just as i have faith in mine. Unless of course your a person who believes u are a god! Some folks do believe this. everyone worships something be it cars, rock stars, pets and other stuff.
Natives did worship something, that's how religion got started and was perpetuated. No, man has insecurities and creates gods for that void. I do not have faith in atheism. I accept there is no evidence for god, therefore am by definition atheist. No faith, just acknowledgement of zero evidence. What do I worship?
Good Video. Im not atheist but i am Hindu and alot of Hindus can be atheist. And I have to admit..atheists are some of the most humble and patient people ive met.
Well I hope so, if it gets rid of rude and arrogant hateful people such as yourself.... how can someone be so filled with hate for so many without going crazy? Oh, wait, they can't....
Great video, it seems you know more about religion than the religious people themselves. Hinduism contrary to popular belief doesnt fit either polytheism, pantheism or any other definition. God cannot be quantified: so he is neither form nor formless, one or many.
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hindus r a virus.. they can marry animals and drinking cow piss is a religous act .. ghandi drank it! ask any hindu if u dont believe me ? hindus r sick!
doesnt people know theres a difference from indian and muslims...and who cares if someone speaks in the senate christians talk all the time wats the big deal religion just talks about peace..
I'll believe that when I see it Tom. So far I only have seen allegations and hearsay. You would think they would capture such dispicable actions by missionaries on video and put it on youtube. I guess for one I can't understand what would even be the motive of 'tricking someone into Christianity' maybe a rich person. But these Dalits have nothing to offer the missionaries financially.
"I guess for one I can't understand what would even be the motive of 'tricking someone into Christianity' maybe a rich person. But these Dalits have nothing to offer the missionaries financially."
- You know what the motive is. Power... Have more numbers. Power. I can't believe you didn't even see that.
But power for who tom? Unlike the naxals, the Christians don't have all the accoutrements of a political movement. No militias, no political party, etc. Not only that but Christians are only 2.3% in India, they have a looooong way to go if they want to take over India.
- From themselves. Of course. Don't act all innocent and you don't see what is going on. I mean come on. jy768, you are pretty bad at this, you aren't fooling anyone. You say they only have 2.3% of the population, but they have to start somewhere. jy768, you really are funny when you try to show Christians as the innocent ones. lol. How are they not interested in power?
And you know why Christians have only 2.3% of the population, because many Hindus don't agree with the principles of Christianity. That is why there is a more aggressive approach by missionaries. Thats why Christians bribe Hindus into converting. If that doesnt work they turn to mafia like tactics to get more converts. They use someones poverty against them to convert people to Christianity. Missionaries even say pray with us so your sick child can be cured, yet the child stays sick.
jy768, don't get me wrong, I don't agree with everything in Hinduism or any religion out there. I agree with a lot of things in Vedic Hinduism, but not everything. But at least I gave all of them a fair chance. When I read the quran, translated by Yusif Ali, at least I read a copy approved by many muslims. I don't agree with most of the quran, but at least I gave it a fair chance. All I'm saying is give them a fair chance with an open heart and mind, and a critical mind.
"No. You are talking about the sugar coated vedas written for western consumption by a known hindu apologist."
- Well that is where you and I differ. I at least went to India and spoke to many Hindu Sanskrit Scholars. And everyone agreed Vedic scholar Swami Stayaprakash Saraswati was the best translation. Believe what you want, but I did my research. And each of these scholars agreed, caste system is not in the Vedas and it is destroying India.
The hindus are the terrorists. There is no Christian terrorism in India, you are delusional and are lapping up the pablum that the Sang is putting out. There is not a shred of evidence for any of their devious claims.
- Bro. I been to India, I saw how Christian missionaries treat non-Christians. I seen it with my own eyes. They dangle food in front of kids and tell them you can have this if you convert. They are like a mafia, pressuring people to convert. And when they do, they extort them for money. And if you dont do as they say, sometimes they kill you. I spoke to many villages where this was happening.
The best book I've read on India and Hinduism is "The Wonder That Was India" by Arthur Llewellyn Basham. He was a sanskrit scholar and was not a Christian missionary. He was appointed Swami Vivekananda Professor in Oriental Studies at the Asiatic Society of Calcutta in September 1985
I don't convert people. I'm not even much of a Christian to be honest. But I do send $30 a month to a dalit kid I sponsor in India, AND I DONT WANT HIS SCHOOL BURNED DOWN BY HINDUTVA!!
"That is like saying: Find me a reliable source on racism in the south approved by the KKK!!"
- You can call them what you want, but honestly, if you want to have a fair debate, I think the best way to go about it is use material put out by the group who follows it. When I decided to read the quran, I went to my local mosque and got a copy from them. I didn't read one provided by a church. And when I read the bible I read one given by a church.
And when I decided to read the Vedas, I got a copy approved by Hindus and put out by Hindus. If you want to know how people view their own religion and feel "this is what is in my religion," read what is put out by them. Not by a group or people who oppose it. Why don't you have an open mind for once. O, and when I read the Granth Sahib, Sikh holy book, I looked over a copy translated by a Sikh.
Your swami belongs to the same cadre of deviants who were caught redhanded trying to rewrite California school text books! Lying is not a sin in hinduism. In fact there is no real concept of good and evil in hinduism, but pure and polluted. And the Dalits are polluted people the Christians are trying to help educate and so that is why we get the hindu mob violence in Orissa, Karnataka, and Kerala. The sudras do the dirty work while the twice born relax in their comfortable homes!
Oh yeah, the Marathas were lovely people: They burned wives on their dead husbands pyres, human sacrifice, and the laws of Manu to the core! search Shivaji: The irreligious and barbaric Maratha King.
I'm through discussing with you, I'm not here to educate people on hinduism who haven't done their research.
- That's the best thing you said. You clearly went to an anti-Hindu website and started to state to me arguments that missionaries use. Why don't you read an approved copy of the Vedas, by Swami Satya Prakash Saraswati and get back to me. I at least used a copy of the bible approved by the Baptist Church. I mean, come on man. Is this how you convert people, by lying about their faith?
Isn't it convenient that the hindus can just reject whichever books they find uncomfortable to defend. The muslims do the same thing with their embarrassing hadiths. At least with Biblical hermenuetics they don't disown the scripture to save face. Manu smriti is a classic example of this, although hardcore hindus have no desire to reject it.
"Isn't it convenient that the hindus can just reject whichever books they find uncomfortable to defend...At least with Biblical hermenuetics they don't disown the scripture to save face."
- The Christians do disown scriptures. They do it in two ways. One, when they picked what went into the bible during the Council of Nicea. Second, when they say the old testament is not relevant any more because the new testament supersedes it. You are a hypocrite.
god bless you. hindus dont need to say that we are a religion of peace.we dont need propaganda. we just believe in harmony and pluralism and liberty and that world is one family. about doing hindu prayer in sanete ...i feel that it is unneccerry to do so. hinduism anyways respects and loves all. aithists are highly respected by hindus. galileo galilie would never be hanged if he was born in india. every great idea starts off a blasfemy. god bless america! god bless india!
Aditi11indiangirl 2 months ago
Mary lied, thats how jesus was born.
Jedi862001 8 months ago
Who said Hinduism is polytheistic??...........The Hindus worship One and only God, Brahman Supreme............The various gods u see are just different representations of him...........Plz refer 2 the Vedas n the Upanishads.
sizzlewithabir 10 months ago
@sizzlewithabir i agree to a point but not completely. This is what i have understood.
There is the trinity: Brahma, Vishnu and mahesh(shiva)
There are devtas (angels) and asuras (devils)
Brahma is more like a position and it changes every yuga. In most of the pictures Brahma will be shown sitting on an umbilical cord coming from vishnu.
Shiva is know to be the left hand of vishnu. ( i cannot express it properly in English)
The rest of the millions of Gods are all avatars of the trinity.
CodeNamedAsdfg12345 7 months ago
@CodeNamedAsdfg12345 Also the concept of God is not the same as that of Abrahmic religions. God is more like consciousness and is there in everyone of us. you can search on YouTube: Consciousness: mind over matter. (this video is somewhat good)
The pictorial representation of Gods have a lot to do with astrology and other scientific disciplines.
So God as such is not a person but an energy. Also Hinduism or Jainism or Buddhism are not more of religions but are a way of life (a philosophy )
CodeNamedAsdfg12345 7 months ago
@CodeNamedAsdfg12345 Actually, Brahma and Brahman are not equivalent terms. Brahman is the Constant universal Consciousness who is the God of the Hindus. Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva are his three personalities based on His functions, quite similar to Modalism. The Vedas clearly declare, "Brahman is One and Only without a Second.", "That which is One, the poets give many a name." and "In the beginning, there was only the absolute Self (Brahman)"
sizzlewithabir 7 months ago
Yes, Jesus sometimes contradicted the old testament god. Jesus would say, "You have heard is said...", then say, "But I say..."
TouchOfGreatness 1 year ago
• “If moral precepts alone could have reformed mankind, the mission of the Son of God into our world would have been unnecessary.”
"Let the children who are sent to those schools be taught to read and write and above all, let both sexes be carefully instructed in the principles and obligations of the Christian religion. This is the most essential part of education”
Letters of Benjamin Rush, "To the citizens of Philadelphia: A Plan for Free Schools", March 28, 1787
LambLion777 1 year ago
"Without Religion this World would be Something not fit to be mentioned in polite Company, I mean Hell." [John Adams to Thomas Jefferson, April 19, 1817] |
LambLion777 1 year ago
@LambLion777 Deist
TXatheist 1 year ago
John Adams and John Hancock:
We Recognize No Sovereign but God, and no King but Jesus! [April 18, 1775]
LambLion777 1 year ago
@LambLion777 Deist.
TXatheist 1 year ago
@TXatheist IS A LIAR.
LambLion777 1 year ago
@LambLion777 Is this Frank? Call me a liar and I'll know it's you Frank...hope you are still Frank like.
TXatheist 1 year ago
@TXatheist NOT FRANK. I have never met you or know you.
LambLion777 1 year ago
@LambLion777 It's not letting you post anymore or it caught on you were spamming and made you put in a code to keep rambling...take care Frank.
TXatheist 1 year ago
John Adams:
"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion. Avarice, ambition, revenge, or gallantry, would break the strongest cords of our Constitution as a whale goes through a net. Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." : October 11, 1798
LambLion777 1 year ago
@LambLion777 Deist.
TXatheist 1 year ago
@TXatheist "Without Religion this World would be Something not fit to be mentioned in polite Company, I mean Hell." [John Adams to Thomas Jefferson, April 19, 1817]
LambLion777 1 year ago
@LambLion777 Deist.
TXatheist 1 year ago
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"Without Religion this World would be Something not fit to be mentioned in polite Company, I mean Hell." [John Adams to Thomas Jefferson, April 19, 1817]
LambLion777 1 year ago
John Adams:
“ The general principles upon which the Fathers achieved independence were the general principals of Christianity… I will avow that I believed and now believe that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God.”
• “[July 4th] ought to be commemorated as the day of deliverance by solemn acts of devotion to God Almighty.”
–John Adams in a letter written to Abigail on the day the Declaration was approved by Congress
LambLion777 1 year ago
@LambLion777 Forgery and you shouldn't use this false quote.
TXatheist 1 year ago
I'm looking at the Constitutional Conventions, Schedule right now and they didn't even meet on Sunday in observance of Sunday the day of the LORD. People who don't think they are accountable, for what they have done and don't believe in Christ, NOW that is crazy. Good Luck!
LambLion777 1 year ago
@LambLion777 Right, the Deistic lord was what they believed in. It's crazy to believe in christ, he's a imaginary friend for people who can't deal with reality, good luck.
TXatheist 1 year ago
People who don't believe in Christ sentence themselves against Him, His Saints, and His Angels. You have put a curse on yourself. I truly feel sorry for you and your family. May you find God once again, before you hurt yourself or the family God gave you.
LambLion777 1 year ago
@LambLion777 ...my son jesus is the son of god and he needs to accept him. There was no christ, and are no angels. I'm as worried about this curse as you are that allah will send you to hell. You are too misinformed to feel sorry for me. My family came from devotion to my wife and then sex to create my son. God did nothing.
TXatheist 1 year ago
@TXatheist God gave you, your wife through His Divine understanding of you in HIS love. Your son, was also made by GOD. The Lord is the divine Creator of all life, which can give someone life or take it. It is the spark of life, which contains HIS light. It is only through HIS Power, Wisdom, and Majesty that man has either has to borrow from His elements of HIS nature to even make anything. Say out loud if Jesus is Lord Prove it to me! Go for it! What do you have to lose, but non-faith?
LambLion777 1 year ago
@LambLion777 Nope, god is imaginary and gave me nothing. If my wife and I didn't have sex I would not have a son. It's our gift to each other. God can take life? God...kill me dead now! Nothing happened for good reason...no god. I have self-respect to lose when I know god is but a myth. I can't lie to myself for your benefit to feel better about believing in a god. You believe, I don't.
TXatheist 1 year ago
@TXatheist well you think ppl cant be born without sex can u explain how was jesus born than??
adtnu 10 months ago
The three branches of the U.S. Government: Judicial, Legislative, Executive
• At the Constitutional Convention of 1787, James Madison proposed the plan to divide the central government into three branches. He discovered this model of government from the Perfect Governor, as he read Isaiah 33:22;
“For the LORD is our judge,
the LORD is our lawgiver,
the LORD is our king;
He will save us.”
LambLion777 1 year ago
@LambLion777 No, it was a system of checks and balances like the FF learned from John Locke.
For the Lord is imaginary.
TXatheist 1 year ago
@TXatheist Just for kicks and jiggles. You can got to Coral Ridge Ministries and find out what the "Real Thomas Jefferson" was like. I doubt you'll want to hear the Truth. DR. James Kennedy I doubt you will. I dare you!
LambLion777 1 year ago
@LambLion777 I double dare you to realize Kennedy is not going to tell you the truth. He's a xian that loves to sell books to xians so he tells them what they want to hear to sell his books.
TXatheist 1 year ago
@TXatheist Dr. Kennedy is with the Lord for the past into Glory couple of years, now. May his teaching and his Church, be strong until the end of time.
LambLion777 1 year ago
@LambLion777 Dr. Kennedy is decomposing, nothing more.
TXatheist 1 year ago
“God who gave us life gave us liberty. And can the liberties of a nation be thought secure when we have removed their only firm basis, a conviction in the minds of the people that these liberties are a gift from God? That they are not to be violated but with His wrath? Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, and that His justice cannot sleep forever.” (excerpts are inscribed on the walls of the Jefferson Memorial in the nations capital)
LambLion777 1 year ago
@LambLion777 i am not disagreeing Jefferson believed in the deistic concept of god.
TXatheist 1 year ago
God governs in the affairs of man. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without his notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without His aid? We have been assured in the Sacred Writings that except the Lord build the house, they labor in vain that build it. I firmly believe this. I also believe that, without His concurring aid, we shall succeed in this political building no better than the builders of Babel Constitutional Convention of 1787 Manuscript of this speech Ben Franklin
LambLion777 1 year ago
@LambLion777 God is imaginary. Once again, Ben was a Deist, not christian.
TXatheist 1 year ago
“In the beginning of the contest with Britain, when we were sensible of danger, we had daily prayers in this room for Divine protection. Our prayers, Sir, were heard, and they were graciously answered… do we imagine we no longer need His assistance?” [Constitutional Convention, Thursday June 28, 1787 : Ben Franklin]
LambLion777 1 year ago
@LambLion777 "the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion" President Adams signs the only founding US document mentioning christ/christian/christianity.
TXatheist 1 year ago
Sorry you believe in lies, there truly is nothing else I can do for you. As we all do, people change, which is what you have chosen is to believe a lie. Because it relieves your conscience not to believe in God. If you only knew for all who are in Christ Jesus, their is no condemnation. His love I can not deny. You are offended, because your soul is conflicted with your carnal mind of men. Scripture is in Tim 2, is God Breathed. God used men to write the Bible, true. To reach all personalities.
LambLion777 1 year ago
@LambLion777 If you think you were intellectually able to enlighten me on something I suggest you rethink that. It relieves my conscience not to perpetuate mythology as true. Jesus was imaginary and you need to look up the jesuspuzzle by Earl Doherty. I'm offended someone deceived you with this nonsense. Men borrowed from earlier religions to make up the bible and the council of nicea was a group of men that voted on which books made the bible.
TXatheist 1 year ago
No. My friend, you chose not to believe, because you have a heart issue. Atheist are angry with God. You decided to fill your mind with the studies of man rather than God. I'm not going to argue about our Founding Fathers, I know they were mostly all Christian if not all. The simple fact is, I understand what Truths that run into Faith and Truths that run into social realms. I'm not offended by you, but I do get pissed, when innocence of children get taken by atheists, like yourself.
LambLion777 1 year ago
@LambLion777 You choose to believe because you have a brain issue. Do you like when I tell you why you are the way you are? Me either. I'm not angry with god but people that perpetuate the bible as true with regard to the supernatural. There are no studies of god, just studies of gods man made up. I know the FF were not xians except Pat Henry. Innocence of children? What are you talking about? I don't go around telling kids god is make believe but I"ve had friends/relatives tell my...
TXatheist 1 year ago
@TXatheist Whatever you post can be seen by everyone. Maybe you should reconsider, what you post and what you are doing. There again, not taking responsible action, for anything you post. "I don't go around telling kids God is..." Liar.
LambLion777 1 year ago
Thomas Paine:
“ It has been the error of the schools to teach astronomy, and all the other sciences, and subjects of natural philosophy, as accomplishments only; whereas they should be taught theologically, or with reference to the Being who is the author of them: for all the principles of science are of divine origin. Man cannot make, or invent, or contrive principles: he can only discover them; and he ought to look through the discovery to the Author.” Book by,Thom.Paine"The Existence of God"
LambLion777 1 year ago
@LambLion777 Right, Thomas Paine was as deist. Paine was also educated before we knew the big bang was science so he gave credit to a god. We now understand that to be his ignorance or if still used today the god of the gaps fallacy.
TXatheist 1 year ago
Whoop D. Do! Really, a philosophy course? No wonder you are an Atheist, mess! Man's love of his own knowledge, WOULD make you an Atheist, I'll give you that! LOL Have you ever studied Psychology? You see, there is this little Greek word called, "Psyche" I have a problem with. I don't mind sharing this, with you. Psyche, is you "Soul". If anyone other than a Spiritual man, was to study your soul, they are going to give you the wrong information, for it.
LambLion777 1 year ago
@LambLion777 Of course it's man's knowledge cause that's all we have. If you think a god wrote or inspired anything you are more than a mess, you're naively ignorant. If you can find a man that can locate my soul on an anatomy chart you might have a point but you aren't even close. A spiritual man is just going to give me a fairy tale that I comprehend already is simply a fairy tale.
TXatheist 1 year ago
I highly disagree with you. I wrote an final paper in secular college on the subject which received and A on. From a very secular professor on Government. 3 claimed to be Unitarian, and was not the same as it was today. It was to study all religions to eventually find Christ as the Center of all Spiritual life. Sorry, but it's true.
LambLion777 1 year ago
@LambLion777 Wrong, Thomas Paine clearly stated he was a Deist. Jefferson was a Unitarian/Deist so much that he cut out the supernatural nonsense of the bible to create the Jefferson bible. I wrote a paper in college for philosophy class and got an A for showing how the FF supported the separation of church and state much more than we allow today with under god in the pledge, on our currency, the US motto, and faith-based funding. Jesus is not the center of unitarianism. Sorry, you are wrong
TXatheist 1 year ago
LambLion777 1 year ago
@LambLion777 Nope, many FF were Deists not christians and some were Unitarian which is not christian. You also have to remember the FF just left Europe where freethinkers were persecuted like when FF Thomas Paine was put under house arrest for writing his book, The Age of Reason. This was also before most knew evolution and the big bang were common scientific knowledge.
TXatheist 1 year ago
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Vivekanandainsp 1 year ago
Just wanted to let you know that Hinduism is not polytheistic. It is in fact monotheistic as it believes in one Supreme Being, all the deities being simply avatars of that Supreme Being.
EternalSelf108 1 year ago
Surrendering ones heart and soul to a bronze age book of metaphor and absurdity compiled by desert beduins makes no logical sense.
nosajj12345 1 year ago
so would you rather a muslim offer prayers in the senate ? non monotheistic is your complaint ? lol . you dont even know god, but you worry about god or gods or goddesses. strange.
killintymm 1 year ago
@killintymm I worry because as every test has shown intercessory prayer is useless and religion should not be in politics, especially useless rituals. p.s. No one knows god, some are just delusional.
TXatheist 1 year ago
@TXatheist i agree, i dont support it either and this guy who came in looked aritificial and im sure he didnt know god . but my point was against the reasoning behind the objections. let them ban it fully, but dont ban it because you think it is polytheistic and other problems they have with hinduism when they dont really know anything about it and this objection assumes they really know who god is and what exactly its supposed to be.
killintymm 1 year ago
@TXatheist all religions are in a mess. the monotheistic more popular religions more so. islam, christianity are constantly pointing fingers at each other and the other religions claiming they are right and others are bound to hell. atleast the hindu doesnt go around telling you that you are headed to hell or eternal fire , never claims he has monopoly over god. didnt mean to lecture, sorry. i agree with your point but i hope i made my point. peace
killintymm 1 year ago
Different people around the world has different perception about Almighty God. I am Hindu but I also respects other Faiths.
pratik02pv 1 year ago
E=Mc2 proves reincarnation is possible .
topbluffa1 2 years ago
it also proves my dead dog is god, theoretically.
TXatheist 2 years ago
Hinduism if obviously way beyond your intellect so never mind .
good luck in your next life.
topbluffa1 2 years ago
Reality is way beyond your intellect, keep believing in your imaginary friend and pretending there is a next life.
TXatheist 2 years ago
if you cant even understand the trinity then i wont try explaining much further......
topbluffa1 2 years ago
trinity=3 gods
TXatheist 2 years ago
your stupid.
the trinity idea is the same as Hinduism.
GOD is EVERYTHING but he can create beings that are a PART of GOD like JESUS or the hindu Deitys that represent the different aspects of GOD (Singular) manifested into physical Beings (Multiple).
i cant be bothered to explain it properly do some research before you say Hindus worship many gods.
topbluffa1 2 years ago
Krishna, Shiva, Brahman, Vishnu...many gods.
TXatheist 2 years ago
they are all manifestations of the different aspects of the ONE god which is everything combined.
Shiva representing gods destruction etc.
Ganesh representing the AUM vibration that created existence.
you people are so small and closed minded who think god has to be one physical being with a big white beard...... its kind of pityfull.
topbluffa1 2 years ago
god is an imaginary friend, it's kind of pitiful to think god is real.
TXatheist 2 years ago
its pityfull you can only imagine god as a physical being.
topbluffa1 2 years ago
You having an imaginary friend in your head is not the physical, just the delusional.
TXatheist 2 years ago
@topbluffa1 so if I believe in Hinduism from a polytheistic perspective Im wrong? I worship multiple gods and goddesses so according to you I am deluded?
xXBlackxRebelXx 1 year ago
no as long as you realise they are all ultimately manifestations of different aspects of Brahman .
topbluffa1 1 year ago
@topbluffa1 no i dont want to recognize any different aspect of any shit. to me kali ma is kali ma. shiva is shiva. and elephant headed ganesha is ganesha. its a whole family of pantheon.
lakshmi is lakshmi.
i am a polytheist. i believe in many gods.
to say this family is "manifestation of different aspects of something" is a blatant lie.
so this "something" "manifests" as different things? so basically you are so some sort of a retarded wannabe monotheist correct?
xXBlackxRebelXx 1 year ago
@topbluffa1 as far as I've read about islam, a muslim will call you an infidel that creates his own gods and goddesses but pretends that this is ultimately a singular deity.
and i have to agree with it.
you have multiple anthropomorphic deities and you want to reconcile with them as being an expression of one singular divinity.
i think you are a shameless liar. a wannabe monotheist.
i think this is an attempt to level up your religious system with the abrahamic religion.
xXBlackxRebelXx 1 year ago
Thank you - I call myself a Hindu Atheist - Rama doesn't care if you belong to a religion or not, as long as you are a good person, she is never far from us. Also check out Karma & Rebirth. I dislike the popular notion - Karma is about being held accountable for our actions. A christian pedophile escapes to heaven, but a hindu must come back & make amends. It is important to realize that he is not going to be punished, but he is not going to get away with it either.
ramaraksha01 2 years ago
Moksha, Enlightenment is earned, not given or begged for, unlike Heaven. That's the essential differnece between the two. Getting to heaven is not that difficult, all a pedophile or a terrorist needs to do is to beg like a dog. He gets to enjoy heaven while his living victims live thru hell. Moksha is earned thru knowledge, and knowledge has to be earned, not given. A Teacher who gives pass marks to a failed student is not doing him a favor. Reach for the Higher goal, reach for Moksha.
ramaraksha01 2 years ago
ram, thanks, I've now learned Moksha and will look it up as I like the concept of earning.
TXatheist 2 years ago
God is a Hydra!?!? haha...
dmndd 2 years ago
christian have 3 god with one body. the father, the son and the holy ghost, that 3 god to me.
mahender6969 2 years ago
You do not understand Trinitarianism one bit brother.
AndyTCurry 2 years ago
@AndyTCurry the trinity of christianity is the most mentally challenged thing ive ever heard.
xXBlackxRebelXx 1 year ago
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gfreed100 2 years ago
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gfreed100 2 years ago
Now think of the human body as being simply hardware. Its capable of functioning totally independently but like WinXP we can network with the creator. We have limited access to the Creator in the trinity everyone has full access which means the three systems act as one system. I have a program i use to remotely repair computes. If i upload it into your computer your computer and my computer might as well be the same machine. I will have full control over every aspect of your machine. Simple!
gfreed100 2 years ago
The body requires the brain to function. You use one computer to control the other. Does god control jc or the other way around?
TXatheist 2 years ago
My computer has its own processor, hard drive, ram and can act totally on its own. So my computer is a independent device that doesn't need the networked to worked to operate. But the computer has the ability to network with other machines greatly enhancing its capabilities. Jesus developed or was born with a very complete link with God. You my say Jesus was given total access to everything. But Jesus chose to be obedient to God rather then be controlled by God.
gfreed100 2 years ago
Your computer will sit there unless you program it to do something. Networking is simple technology that exists in the year 2009. Telephones could be your example if it was 50 years ago. Jesus is a myth. look up jesuspuzzle by Earl Doherty. Semantics is all you are doing, god controlled, no wait jesus willingly obeyed...same difference and completely unverifiable but I'm sure it's your belief in your head.
TXatheist 2 years ago
Nothing is impossible. They are finding that many of those story book myths are not myths. More then likely the gods did exist. All those mythological half animal half man critters may have also existed. Who's to say that thousands of years ago we had visitors that broke our genetic code and created all kinds of animal\human hybrids. As far as people doing bad things in the name of jc, people are after all people, bin doing that for years, that do it now. Its easy to hijack a name.
gfreed100 2 years ago
Actually it's the other way around. We now know there was no global flood twenty feet over the highest mountain during man's era. We know an ark can't be made out of wood and stay together as the bible describes. The bible is a story of myths and made up except a few tribes/cities. That's call an imagination to believe in hybrids just like gods. It's easy to hijack a name and not take responsibility for ignorance as many xians do.
TXatheist 2 years ago
Very subjective goggle it & u will find as many for as against. I frankly don't know what happened exactly cause i wasn't there.But the strange thing is that almost every race on the planet talks about a great flood.A strange thing happened to me once.We were hiking in the mountains way above sea level and behold petrified clams?Big bunches of them. Conclusion, this was once under the sea. was it the great flood? No idea! But we were at 3 or 4 or maybe 5 thousand feet above sea level.
gfreed100 2 years ago
science is not a matter of vote. Yes, every mythology story started by people who lived by a large river say there was a flood. Or the claims were down in water and over millions of years platetechtonics pushed them up as the land converged.
TXatheist 2 years ago
God is far more than a data server, he could also be thought of as a master controller with great intelligence. If God chose to share total access to everything with a person that person would control everything in existence. Unlike StarTrek's Borg Jesus wasn't forced into a link with God but i think losing a really strong link with God you've had all your life would be frightening.On the cross that link was closed causing Jesus great distress, "my God, why have you forsaken me!" JC was alone
gfreed100 2 years ago
God is a fictional character in a story book, nothing more. There were many people that died at the stake 2000 years ago, if jc existed he wasn't special dying that way. Sick, but it happened. Just ask Giordano Bruno.
TXatheist 2 years ago
And the earth is flat, the moon landing was a farce! Its easy to dismiss anything that is greater then ourselves. We often have to see it too believe it. Here is a zinger for you. I'm telling you that very soon you are not going to be able to believe what you see or hear. Our tech is at the point now where your senses can be fooled. You will see what isn't there, hear sounds that come from nowhere, hear voices in your head that are not yours. Reality & Virtual reality will blur!
gfreed100 2 years ago
You do realize many magicians were how religion got started. Slight of hand has been around for centuries and fools people just like religious leaders such as jc.
TXatheist 2 years ago
Yeah JC could have faked it and there were good fakers but jc's followers would have been in on it. Jesus could not have pulled off the scams by himself. There would have been pay offs and stuff. All jc's followers went 2 their deaths for a big scam. Thousands upon thousands of people got fed 2 wild beasts, were covered in tar and were used 2 light the Appian way, were crucified and murdered in every way imaginable for a lie? Wow! JC was either a master of deception or he was who he said he was
gfreed100 2 years ago
jc never existed, the jesus myth or jesus puzzle are two websites but jc didn't fake the miracles, just story tellers made them up as they never happened. Murdered for a lie? Sure, like Branch Davidians or Heaven's gates followers. Jc was a myth.
TXatheist 2 years ago
I see you removed your comment about censorship. I'll take that as an apology for falsely accusing me of censorship. I've only blocked one guy who posted 25 comments a day and wasn't talking to anyone but just rambling and cussing and later I unblocked him explaining it was crazy to post like that.
TXatheist 2 years ago
i goofed thought u was removing stuff while i was hitting wrong buttons and i got put off because for once i'm talking 2 someone who hasn't turned into a one eyed monster,we are having a most excellent chat.Usually people i talk to will start calling me names or even threaten to kill me.Then they will censor everything.Happens time and again.Sorry i jumped the gun,but i caught it and felt dumb. I'm human,can screw up royal. Never posted long stuff on utube before. Don't know how it works yet.
gfreed100 2 years ago
You seem to have a problem understanding the concept of the trinity. It easy to understand in that we do it all the time these days. I have three computers in my house, they are all very different machines physically but they run off one really big server. These machines are all networked together but they all draw their data from the server. Without the server the other computers will still function but at a seriously reduced capacity.
gfreed100 2 years ago
And that would be 4 separate things sharing information like 4 people standing around all reading one report. If one person didn't show up to read the report it could still go on. In the xian plagiarized trinity concept jc/hg/yhwh are all intertwined so it's 4 things or polytheism.
TXatheist 2 years ago
Example:Jesus asked God if there was away 2 not be killed.He understood what was going 2 happen and asked for away out. But Jesus did what he was told 2 do, it was his choice. The program I told you about that gives me total access to another machine tells you that i'm on your machine and you can shut me down anytime you want 2. Jesus could of shut God off at any time.Jesus instead chose 2 hold the link open and had such access 2 God he is God.Like my machine linked 2 yours becomes your machine
gfreed100 2 years ago
jesus didn't do anything, a story book tells about 2 fictional beings communicating. Yes, the story could have been written that way but the guy who made it up didn't write it that way.
TXatheist 2 years ago
I find it amazing how people react 2 what Im saying, talk about controlled. Everyone shouts God is imaginary, he doesn't exist, and there can't be a God. Then like on Q start the peronal attacks, its like folks have a script.
I'm saying not only is there the one great God but there also may have been other gods 2. More then likely we have lost a great deal of history. When the Roman's burned the library at Alexandria lots of history was lost. I believe that most legends have some truth 2 them.
gfreed100 2 years ago
I'm not shouting, I'm just explaining it. There can be a god and there is, in story books. There have been hundreds of gods like Sol Invictus who is the real god behind december 25 and MIthra who was the truth and the light before jc writers plagiarized.
TXatheist 2 years ago
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gfreed100 2 years ago
Want to make it known that i don't think God is a big server in the sky. What i'm doing is called modeling. Networking architecture can be used as a model to help people understand a concept about God. But think what it would be like to establish a link to God. We all have the capability of networking with God, i know this cause i have had limited success at establishing a link. It can be very intense and when i've done it i've learned a lot. Once you really know God its impossible to walk away.
gfreed100 2 years ago
Want to make it known god is imaginary. You are lying or if you really believe that stuff you are perpetuating nonsense. No one knows god but once you believe it's hard to think logically again so you remain a believer for the simplest reason of all, you don't have to think hard.
TXatheist 2 years ago
One other interesting bit. If you believe there is no God you must believe in evolution. I admire your faith in that it takes a lot more faith them i will ever have to believe that this earth and everything thats on it was a huge accident! I can't even go there! lol! Bye now!
gfreed100 2 years ago
No, I understand evolution is a fact. Francis Collins also believes in jc and realizes evolution is a fact. No faith involved, just basic science knowledge.
TXatheist 2 years ago
There are many things we can't verify but we know do exist. 200 years ago if i told you this little box can send out a Radio wave that can communicate to another black box they would say i was crazy. On paper they understood electrical waves but they had no instruments that could observe them. Many people today say they believe in extraterrestrial beings but we don't believe in inter dimensional brings. We understand our universe but can't fathom alternate universes.
gfreed100 2 years ago
No, i"d ask how it works and you'd explain radio waves. Then we could verify them thru radio frequency detectors like an FM radio does. Right, people believe in the tooth fairy, santa, big foot, god, elves and leprechauns cause they like the stories. Our limitation on science doesn't mean they don't exist but there is no basis for them to exist except we all know the stories are made up about them all.
TXatheist 2 years ago
Actually i love radios, restored some nice ones. Been building radios since the 60's. Well there is no basis for God if you dismiss every peace of evidence around you. I call this the Muslim approach. The muslins will till you there was no Jewish temple while shoveling out the artifacts. Evolution worked in the 50's when we were all taught simple cell theory. We've come a long way since the 50's, the simple cell has been found to be so complex its frightening. Micro miniature motors that spin.
gfreed100 2 years ago
god made this pc? Nope. I see you are going down the irreducible complexity road and the miniature motors also "cousins" that do not spin but that's evolution for you.
TXatheist 2 years ago
I've worked around scientists and professors and frankly most of them are disgusted at the state of affairs today. Science today at many levels is politically motivated. If i discovered anything that contradicted the people in control i would loose my funding, loose my accreditation, might even loose my life. Been told this by more then one scientist. A time is coming soon where we will not be able to even talking like we are now. Its sad where we are going.
gfreed100 2 years ago
gfreed, I've listened and talked to science teachers and many are disgusted at the watered down science. The few that apply for grants have to be careful but the privately or self funded do not.
TXatheist 2 years ago
A baby is much like a computer in that it comes with a very basic operating system and not much else. A computer come with a BIOS which tells the system how to learn. Networking topography and hardware is anything but simple, it only seems simple with our hightly sophisticated computer systems. I've seen working with computers now since the 70's. Computers are incredible devices. Telephones can indeed be used as remote control devices. archaic by todays standards but doable. Acoustic modems
gfreed100 2 years ago
A baby is an atheist until some parent indoctrinates the kid with a religion.
TXatheist 2 years ago
I think not knowing something is far different then rejecting something. Natives left to themselves will eventually worship something. Man has a built in need to worship. Exploiting that need gives governments great power. Atheism is a religious belief system. You must have faith in your beliefs just as i have faith in mine. Unless of course your a person who believes u are a god! Some folks do believe this. everyone worships something be it cars, rock stars, pets and other stuff.
gfreed100 2 years ago
Natives did worship something, that's how religion got started and was perpetuated. No, man has insecurities and creates gods for that void. I do not have faith in atheism. I accept there is no evidence for god, therefore am by definition atheist. No faith, just acknowledgement of zero evidence. What do I worship?
TXatheist 2 years ago
Good Video. Im not atheist but i am Hindu and alot of Hindus can be atheist. And I have to admit..atheists are some of the most humble and patient people ive met.
Take Care.
fuckyouish 2 years ago
So it is true that God doesn't reveal Himself to demons. I had heard this before from authorities, but I am now actually witnessing this fact.
amjiva 2 years ago
Well I hope so, if it gets rid of rude and arrogant hateful people such as yourself.... how can someone be so filled with hate for so many without going crazy? Oh, wait, they can't....
PanDeism 2 years ago
Freedom of religion , Secular government . Pray to whatever God you want But keep prayer out of government.
hellavadeal 3 years ago
all gods are form of one. don't argue!! peace!!!
dipuhere4u 3 years ago
Great video, it seems you know more about religion than the religious people themselves. Hinduism contrary to popular belief doesnt fit either polytheism, pantheism or any other definition. God cannot be quantified: so he is neither form nor formless, one or many.
markhere123 3 years ago
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hindus r a virus.. they can marry animals and drinking cow piss is a religous act .. ghandi drank it! ask any hindu if u dont believe me ? hindus r sick!
qazaxsw 3 years ago
muslims aren't even human. They are worse than pigs. Is that really fair to say?
TXatheist 3 years ago
doesnt people know theres a difference from indian and muslims...and who cares if someone speaks in the senate christians talk all the time wats the big deal religion just talks about peace..
anilraj420 2 years ago
This comming from somebody whose people blows them selves up in cafes. You guys are sick, in the head.
PeterVadim 3 years ago 2
well done. nice video :) keep posting to improve people's knowledge
sindiali 3 years ago 3
you should get the facts and not make up things you do not research.
johnmathewzz 3 years ago
facts? such as...
TXatheist 3 years ago
I'll believe that when I see it Tom. So far I only have seen allegations and hearsay. You would think they would capture such dispicable actions by missionaries on video and put it on youtube. I guess for one I can't understand what would even be the motive of 'tricking someone into Christianity' maybe a rich person. But these Dalits have nothing to offer the missionaries financially.
jy768 3 years ago
"I guess for one I can't understand what would even be the motive of 'tricking someone into Christianity' maybe a rich person. But these Dalits have nothing to offer the missionaries financially."
- You know what the motive is. Power... Have more numbers. Power. I can't believe you didn't even see that.
tomtomttom 3 years ago
But power for who tom? Unlike the naxals, the Christians don't have all the accoutrements of a political movement. No militias, no political party, etc. Not only that but Christians are only 2.3% in India, they have a looooong way to go if they want to take over India.
jy768 3 years ago
"But power for who tom?"
- From themselves. Of course. Don't act all innocent and you don't see what is going on. I mean come on. jy768, you are pretty bad at this, you aren't fooling anyone. You say they only have 2.3% of the population, but they have to start somewhere. jy768, you really are funny when you try to show Christians as the innocent ones. lol. How are they not interested in power?
tomtomttom 3 years ago
And you know why Christians have only 2.3% of the population, because many Hindus don't agree with the principles of Christianity. That is why there is a more aggressive approach by missionaries. Thats why Christians bribe Hindus into converting. If that doesnt work they turn to mafia like tactics to get more converts. They use someones poverty against them to convert people to Christianity. Missionaries even say pray with us so your sick child can be cured, yet the child stays sick.
tomtomttom 3 years ago
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tomtomttom 3 years ago
"You would think they would capture such dispicable actions by missionaries on video and put it on youtube."
- And they do. Check out the videos on my page. And you will find their actions. Three parts.
tomtomttom 3 years ago
Well, to each his own then Tom. I'm off to bed, so take care.
jy768 3 years ago
"Well, to each his own then Tom. I'm off to bed, so take care."
- Agreed.
tomtomttom 3 years ago
jy768, don't get me wrong, I don't agree with everything in Hinduism or any religion out there. I agree with a lot of things in Vedic Hinduism, but not everything. But at least I gave all of them a fair chance. When I read the quran, translated by Yusif Ali, at least I read a copy approved by many muslims. I don't agree with most of the quran, but at least I gave it a fair chance. All I'm saying is give them a fair chance with an open heart and mind, and a critical mind.
tomtomttom 3 years ago
No. You are talking about the sugar coated vedas written for western consumption by a known hindu apologist.
jy768 3 years ago
"No. You are talking about the sugar coated vedas written for western consumption by a known hindu apologist."
- Well that is where you and I differ. I at least went to India and spoke to many Hindu Sanskrit Scholars. And everyone agreed Vedic scholar Swami Stayaprakash Saraswati was the best translation. Believe what you want, but I did my research. And each of these scholars agreed, caste system is not in the Vedas and it is destroying India.
tomtomttom 3 years ago
The hindus are the terrorists. There is no Christian terrorism in India, you are delusional and are lapping up the pablum that the Sang is putting out. There is not a shred of evidence for any of their devious claims.
jy768 3 years ago
"There is no Christian terrorism in India"
- Bro. I been to India, I saw how Christian missionaries treat non-Christians. I seen it with my own eyes. They dangle food in front of kids and tell them you can have this if you convert. They are like a mafia, pressuring people to convert. And when they do, they extort them for money. And if you dont do as they say, sometimes they kill you. I spoke to many villages where this was happening.
tomtomttom 3 years ago
The best book I've read on India and Hinduism is "The Wonder That Was India" by Arthur Llewellyn Basham. He was a sanskrit scholar and was not a Christian missionary. He was appointed Swami Vivekananda Professor in Oriental Studies at the Asiatic Society of Calcutta in September 1985
jy768 3 years ago
""The Wonder That Was India" by Arthur Llewellyn Basham"
- Is not the Vedas. I'm talking about the Vedas.
tomtomttom 3 years ago
I don't convert people. I'm not even much of a Christian to be honest. But I do send $30 a month to a dalit kid I sponsor in India, AND I DONT WANT HIS SCHOOL BURNED DOWN BY HINDUTVA!!
jy768 3 years ago
"But I do send $30 a month to a dalit kid I sponsor in India"
- That's great, if you don't send it to one of those crazy missionaries there. Aka Christian manipulating terrorists.
tomtomttom 3 years ago
That is like saying: Find me a reliable source on racism in the south approved by the KKK!!
jy768 3 years ago
"That is like saying: Find me a reliable source on racism in the south approved by the KKK!!"
- You can call them what you want, but honestly, if you want to have a fair debate, I think the best way to go about it is use material put out by the group who follows it. When I decided to read the quran, I went to my local mosque and got a copy from them. I didn't read one provided by a church. And when I read the bible I read one given by a church.
tomtomttom 3 years ago
And when I decided to read the Vedas, I got a copy approved by Hindus and put out by Hindus. If you want to know how people view their own religion and feel "this is what is in my religion," read what is put out by them. Not by a group or people who oppose it. Why don't you have an open mind for once. O, and when I read the Granth Sahib, Sikh holy book, I looked over a copy translated by a Sikh.
tomtomttom 3 years ago
Your swami belongs to the same cadre of deviants who were caught redhanded trying to rewrite California school text books! Lying is not a sin in hinduism. In fact there is no real concept of good and evil in hinduism, but pure and polluted. And the Dalits are polluted people the Christians are trying to help educate and so that is why we get the hindu mob violence in Orissa, Karnataka, and Kerala. The sudras do the dirty work while the twice born relax in their comfortable homes!
jy768 3 years ago
"Your swami belongs to the same cadre of deviants who were caught redhanded trying to rewrite California school text books!"
- That's how I view the Christian Church. And the bible. I guess you and I have fundamentally different views.
tomtomttom 3 years ago
Oh yeah, the Marathas were lovely people: They burned wives on their dead husbands pyres, human sacrifice, and the laws of Manu to the core! search Shivaji: The irreligious and barbaric Maratha King.
I'm through discussing with you, I'm not here to educate people on hinduism who haven't done their research.
jy768 3 years ago
"search Shivaji: The irreligious and barbaric Maratha King."
- And you believe that crap. It shows how naive you are. lol... Bro. again I ask, show me a creditable source approved by Hindu groups that say that.
tomtomttom 3 years ago
"I'm through discussing with you"
- That's the best thing you said. You clearly went to an anti-Hindu website and started to state to me arguments that missionaries use. Why don't you read an approved copy of the Vedas, by Swami Satya Prakash Saraswati and get back to me. I at least used a copy of the bible approved by the Baptist Church. I mean, come on man. Is this how you convert people, by lying about their faith?
tomtomttom 3 years ago
Isn't it convenient that the hindus can just reject whichever books they find uncomfortable to defend. The muslims do the same thing with their embarrassing hadiths. At least with Biblical hermenuetics they don't disown the scripture to save face. Manu smriti is a classic example of this, although hardcore hindus have no desire to reject it.
jy768 3 years ago
"Isn't it convenient that the hindus can just reject whichever books they find uncomfortable to defend...At least with Biblical hermenuetics they don't disown the scripture to save face."
- The Christians do disown scriptures. They do it in two ways. One, when they picked what went into the bible during the Council of Nicea. Second, when they say the old testament is not relevant any more because the new testament supersedes it. You are a hypocrite.
tomtomttom 3 years ago