Toronto, my old home town! I 1st became aware of $cientology,early '70s.Even then it had already developed a poor rep&critical articles had been written.I received a Xenu flyer,mid'70s from a Toronto street protester outside the org then on W.side of Yonge,S.of Bloor. My brother had a friend in Scientology but he was hostile to the cult.Hmm, I should ask him if they split due to disconnection policy.I learned early-on to be wary.
Amazingly,the cult, though weaker survives 30+ years later...
Does Mothman125 mean by "source",the cult? Trust the cult to give an objective account?A whitewashed account from an organization that shamelessly LIES?I've heard/read dozens of 1st hand accounts of cult-ordered disconnection.Yet Tommy Davis says disconnection never happens!DON'T TRUST a source that has a POLICY of LYING!
In THIS sense go to source:look up official "fair game"&"disconnection" policy docs& Hubbard's absurd statements& biographical lies,look up OTIII(Xenu level) for laughs,etc.!
In January 2008, Jenna Miscavige Hill, niece of David Miscavige, spoke out about the policy's effect on her family. She revealed that, once her parents left and she remained in the group, she had been forbidden to answer the telephone in case she spoke to them and that her parents only restored occasional access to her by threatening legal action.
Disconnection is NOT a personal choice, contrary to what Scientology says.
The Church of Scientology claims that there is no such thing as a Disconnection policy, but the contract when joining staff says otherwise: "10. ASSOCIATION WITH INDIVIDUALS NOT IN GOOD STANDING. During my service as a staff member, I agree not to knowingly associate, in any way, with former parishioners of the Church or any other Scientology organization who are either no longer in good standing, or have been expelled or have been declared. "
My advice to everyone is get the facts from the source and never stop asking questions til you get the answers. Learn for urshelf don't become a puppett zombie in society like the gov. would want you to become.
Ah, I feel truly bad for this young woman. It's sad that her father would do such a thing to her and her sister. I'm not much for dissecting religion, but this one needs to stop torturing the families of their members. And stop torturing their protestors, and people who like the protestors, et cetera. I guess I should start something, eh?
i went to delphi a scientologist boarding school in oregon, and yes they are bit controling we didnt get into religion part but but everbody was watching everyone else. I got told on all the time for little things, they believe if you keep a secret it will affect you until you tell on that person or let out the secret. Fuck them i got kicked because i wouldnt conform.
I am an ex scientology, they brain washed people and called themself church but worship a man: Hubbard the church has a cross but they do not name Christ at all. They ask me to drop charges against one of their members who molested a child close to me, they harrasm me over and over this but the guy was prosecuted and finally went to prison. If you do not have money you sing a contract for eternity to work for them and you have to send your kids if you have any to a secrect camp of theirs.
The man put his religion before his own flesh and blood..What's even worse is the "church" goes on record saying it doesn't practice disconnection. That's a flat out LIE and everyone knows it.
Attack? You mean disagreed by protesting or in any other way availed themselves of their 1st amendment right to FREE SPEECH & freedom of thought & expressed their opinions & when $ciLentology found out, it MADE HIM disconnect cuz they're SPs & he'd become PT$ & could NOT CONTINUE in $cifiLIEntology?
Imagine I "attacked," to use your word, the Catholic Church for molesting children; does the Pope make MY PARENTS disconnect (that means not see or speak for life) from me? That's crazy!
Scientology doesn't make people disconnect. It's personal decision. If a person is a devout catholic they would be upset if their church was attacked if a priest molests children, who is to blame? The pope? jesus? the bible? no, that individual priest is. You don't attack the whole church for the actions of one person.
I'm sorry but you don't know what you're talking about: $cn DOES make people disconnect. Personal decision? Baloney! If you're ordered to disconnect & you don't, you're declared SP yourself.
The Catholic church does not fair game their critics. They don't send people to picket their homes & pass fliers spreading rumors about that person. Per LRH policy & $cn all critics are "criminals" to be destroyed by def. The Catholic church was sued for child molestation & it lost. But $cn isn't a church.
"you only get declared an SP if you are openly antagonistic..."
Not true. There are many reasons why one gets SP declared. As one ex. an untrained sup in a course room earns an immediate declare. Read the Ethics book. section on High Crimes for other exs. A false attest on OT level is yet another.
But "openly antagonistic" in $cn means you criticize the church publicly; so there's no freedom of speech in $cn. Finally, if you disobey to disconnect from a known SP gets you declared, as well.
They use abusive methods with NO proven statistical track record no matter how much they claim they do.
Narconon is crock front costing thousands of dollars when in Canada there are a wide variety of programs depending on what you're beliefs are--mainly free.
I know of two "graduates" that committed suicide after involvement with Narconon.
Tapping into people with substance use struggles and mental struggles is a cruelty beyond my ability to understand.
Narconon does work and people should be interested in results. It's not a "front group" as it's openly based on Hubbards writing. If people are helped by it, naturally they want to learn more about Scientology.
Well, that is your opinion which you're certainly entitled to. It is not mine and thank God is not the opinion of the majority and as more people see $cn for what it really is, Narconon will get even more centers closed. Did you hear about the one who this mayor closed yesterday? They were back on their rent or some such thing. Watch these video series: "The death of L. Ron Hubbard."
Well, that goes to show how monumental the size of pile hole you are if that's true. Lets just hope its a stupid distasteful joke. Anyway, the church has far more problems on it's plate than it ever did. And giving pile holes like you the time of day? I don't think so. BEST SELF IMPROVEMENT. RUN LIKE HELL FROM THE CO$.
i give this girl credit for bening so brave, and smart enough to leave this cult. What so called "church" makes you pay thousands of dollars and tells you, you can't see family members who are not in this church i mean cult.
Man, I would be so bummed if my kid got into Scientology- mainly because I know it wouldn't be long before they'd start hitting me up for cash to pay for those bullshit Scientology courses.
Good for her. I hope that more ex-scientologists out there have a new sense of hope and comradeship with the force of new people spreading the truth about CO$. I am sure she and others like her felt extremely alone. You are not alone any longer! Everyone - call or write your congress-person today! Demand that they look into the revocation of this criminal organizations' tax-exempt status!! That is the one and only'stake in the heart'for Scientology. Hit them in the pocketbook & they will suffer.
The description of the courses really goes a long way to explain that Scientology "douchiness". They're pretty much conditioned to be passive-aggressive cunts.
I wish I had some spicy buffalo chicken.
Tsicar 10 months ago 4
The spicy chicken sandwich gave me diarrhea...
globalchaos1984 10 months ago
THERE IN TIM HORTONS!!! THAT MEANS THAT TIM HORTONS SUPPORTS ANONOMYOUS!! Jk but they are in Tim hortons
TMNTPIZZA 1 year ago
thetan rhymes with what?
Adventurestud 1 year ago
Ummmmm...there aren't ANY legitimate religions. That's the point, people.
bman0341 1 year ago
Toronto, my old home town! I 1st became aware of $cientology,early '70s.Even then it had already developed a poor rep&critical articles had been written.I received a Xenu flyer,mid'70s from a Toronto street protester outside the org then on W.side of Yonge,S.of Bloor. My brother had a friend in Scientology but he was hostile to the cult.Hmm, I should ask him if they split due to disconnection policy.I learned early-on to be wary.
Amazingly,the cult, though weaker survives 30+ years later...
Bobb9999 2 years ago
Does Mothman125 mean by "source",the cult? Trust the cult to give an objective account?A whitewashed account from an organization that shamelessly LIES?I've heard/read dozens of 1st hand accounts of cult-ordered disconnection.Yet Tommy Davis says disconnection never happens!DON'T TRUST a source that has a POLICY of LYING!
In THIS sense go to source:look up official "fair game"&"disconnection" policy docs& Hubbard's absurd statements& biographical lies,look up OTIII(Xenu level) for laughs,etc.!
Bobb9999 2 years ago
LOL scientology is too scary for me! it is an evil cult! nothing holy or divine about it!
sadguyfoundout1 2 years ago 5
Bless her for speaking out. I hope her life is going well and that she continues to speak out and educate the public.
Thanks for posting this.
SP4123105 2 years ago 10
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It's all lies, I'm sorry if her family made a personal choice to exclude her but that's not scientology at all .
MOSSMAN125 2 years ago
I was part of that Crap!
sonico73 2 years ago
In January 2008, Jenna Miscavige Hill, niece of David Miscavige, spoke out about the policy's effect on her family. She revealed that, once her parents left and she remained in the group, she had been forbidden to answer the telephone in case she spoke to them and that her parents only restored occasional access to her by threatening legal action.
Disconnection is NOT a personal choice, contrary to what Scientology says.
OpenComments 2 years ago
Why does the Church of Scientology own so many empty buildings?
Why is there so much alter-is in the current text, from what L. Ron Hubbard originally wrote?
Why is there such a focus by the current management on stats and money?
Why should you actively spread a technology if it doesn't work for you?
Why should you close a comm line to someone that you love and care about,just because they disagree with your religion?
Why should you go into debt to pay for tech which is being pushed on you?
OpenComments 2 years ago
@MOSSMAN125
The Church of Scientology claims that there is no such thing as a Disconnection policy, but the contract when joining staff says otherwise: "10. ASSOCIATION WITH INDIVIDUALS NOT IN GOOD STANDING. During my service as a staff member, I agree not to knowingly associate, in any way, with former parishioners of the Church or any other Scientology organization who are either no longer in good standing, or have been expelled or have been declared. "
OpenComments 2 years ago
My advice to everyone is get the facts from the source and never stop asking questions til you get the answers. Learn for urshelf don't become a puppett zombie in society like the gov. would want you to become.
MOSSMAN125 2 years ago
Blah Blah Blah Faggot is all true your fucking church is evil and Tommy Davis is a faggot.
sonico73 2 years ago 2
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MOSSMAN125 2 years ago
obvious troll is obvious
PurgeTheWitch 2 years ago
If Scientology is so great, why does it tear some families appart?
whiteclaudia9 2 years ago 5
narconon cures drug addiction
mfeigin1976 2 years ago
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this chick is a loser.....scientology cured my depression what is that worth? priceless
mfeigin1976 2 years ago
cool you are cured now they start sucking money from you
PurgeTheWitch 2 years ago 4
4:56
Thaaaat explains the staring, I knew they fucking trained those idiots into being pros at staring contests
hassan00 2 years ago
i hope julia read this you are a amazing perosn and i wish you the best in life you and people like you rock
ducksoup2007 2 years ago
you sound like a very strong woman...
EpicAphrodisiac 3 years ago 2
Ah, I feel truly bad for this young woman. It's sad that her father would do such a thing to her and her sister. I'm not much for dissecting religion, but this one needs to stop torturing the families of their members. And stop torturing their protestors, and people who like the protestors, et cetera. I guess I should start something, eh?
As always...
Knowledge is power -AE
Anonenmitist 3 years ago 2
i went to delphi a scientologist boarding school in oregon, and yes they are bit controling we didnt get into religion part but but everbody was watching everyone else. I got told on all the time for little things, they believe if you keep a secret it will affect you until you tell on that person or let out the secret. Fuck them i got kicked because i wouldnt conform.
Mtheory420 3 years ago 2
I am an ex scientology, they brain washed people and called themself church but worship a man: Hubbard the church has a cross but they do not name Christ at all. They ask me to drop charges against one of their members who molested a child close to me, they harrasm me over and over this but the guy was prosecuted and finally went to prison. If you do not have money you sing a contract for eternity to work for them and you have to send your kids if you have any to a secrect camp of theirs.
rebirthbyvianale 3 years ago 3
Bravo
squilky1951 3 years ago
This is exactly like Landmark Education Corporation. Wow.
StLennyBruce 3 years ago
Scientology is falling apart.
The 12th of April will come, just like the 10th of February and the 15th of March. Whether you like it or not. It will come.
Expect us.
KelarGridal 3 years ago 7
OMG! Spicy Buffalo Chicken is back?
StreetMuffin 3 years ago 7
OMG! You're so clever...
Clownage2 3 years ago
LMFAO you win the internet !
wuskul 3 years ago
You should try the Spicy Buffalo Chicken Snack Wraps. OMG SO GOOD.
Peranolde 3 years ago
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Why did she choose her friend over her father?
If her father was interested in self improvement and social betterment using Scientology, why was she and her friend against that?
She also says Narconon works and makes people feel good about themselves, why is she against drug rehab?
King1821E 3 years ago
Why would her father make her choose. I would never DISCONNECT from one of my kids because their choices or beliefs differ to my own.
jayneshat 3 years ago 7
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They didn't disconnect because the beliefs differ. It was because she and her friend are antagonistic and attack Scientology.
King1821E 3 years ago
The man put his religion before his own flesh and blood..What's even worse is the "church" goes on record saying it doesn't practice disconnection. That's a flat out LIE and everyone knows it.
jayneshat 3 years ago 7
King1821E
Attack? You mean disagreed by protesting or in any other way availed themselves of their 1st amendment right to FREE SPEECH & freedom of thought & expressed their opinions & when $ciLentology found out, it MADE HIM disconnect cuz they're SPs & he'd become PT$ & could NOT CONTINUE in $cifiLIEntology?
Imagine I "attacked," to use your word, the Catholic Church for molesting children; does the Pope make MY PARENTS disconnect (that means not see or speak for life) from me? That's crazy!
jdtrickster4 3 years ago 2
Scientology doesn't make people disconnect. It's personal decision. If a person is a devout catholic they would be upset if their church was attacked if a priest molests children, who is to blame? The pope? jesus? the bible? no, that individual priest is. You don't attack the whole church for the actions of one person.
King1821E 3 years ago
I'm sorry but you don't know what you're talking about: $cn DOES make people disconnect. Personal decision? Baloney! If you're ordered to disconnect & you don't, you're declared SP yourself.
The Catholic church does not fair game their critics. They don't send people to picket their homes & pass fliers spreading rumors about that person. Per LRH policy & $cn all critics are "criminals" to be destroyed by def. The Catholic church was sued for child molestation & it lost. But $cn isn't a church.
jdtrickster4 3 years ago 2
you only get declared an SP if you are openly antagonistic towards the church or its members. People are free to come and go as they please.
King1821E 3 years ago
"you only get declared an SP if you are openly antagonistic..."
Not true. There are many reasons why one gets SP declared. As one ex. an untrained sup in a course room earns an immediate declare. Read the Ethics book. section on High Crimes for other exs. A false attest on OT level is yet another.
But "openly antagonistic" in $cn means you criticize the church publicly; so there's no freedom of speech in $cn. Finally, if you disobey to disconnect from a known SP gets you declared, as well.
jdtrickster4 3 years ago
"She also says Narconon works and makes people feel good about themselves, why is she against drug rehab?"
the problem is that it has ulterior motives. (recruiting people into scientology)
caseyschindler 3 years ago 7
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If people use Scientology to improve their life through Narconon, why is it bad to continue to use more Scientology after?
You don't have to "join" or be a "member" just use it to improve conditions in life.
King1821E 3 years ago
They use abusive methods with NO proven statistical track record no matter how much they claim they do.
Narconon is crock front costing thousands of dollars when in Canada there are a wide variety of programs depending on what you're beliefs are--mainly free.
I know of two "graduates" that committed suicide after involvement with Narconon.
Tapping into people with substance use struggles and mental struggles is a cruelty beyond my ability to understand.
MetisRebel58 3 years ago 4
"Why did she choose her friend over her father?"
Cuz her dad's in a crazy cult? She didn't choose him over her dad. In $cn u have to disconnect from ALL -even a family member- who disagree with $cn.
"If her father was interested in self improvement...using Scientology, why was she & her friend against that?"
Cause they know it's a cult & not self-improvement?
"...Narconon works & makes people feel good bla bla bla she against drug rehab?"
Cause she knows it's a "front group" to get you in?
jdtrickster4 3 years ago
Narconon does work and people should be interested in results. It's not a "front group" as it's openly based on Hubbards writing. If people are helped by it, naturally they want to learn more about Scientology.
King1821E 3 years ago
Well, that is your opinion which you're certainly entitled to. It is not mine and thank God is not the opinion of the majority and as more people see $cn for what it really is, Narconon will get even more centers closed. Did you hear about the one who this mayor closed yesterday? They were back on their rent or some such thing. Watch these video series: "The death of L. Ron Hubbard."
jdtrickster4 3 years ago 2
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I have sent this into the church of Scientology. They will deal with her.
r2r2r2 3 years ago
Well, that goes to show how monumental the size of pile hole you are if that's true. Lets just hope its a stupid distasteful joke. Anyway, the church has far more problems on it's plate than it ever did. And giving pile holes like you the time of day? I don't think so. BEST SELF IMPROVEMENT. RUN LIKE HELL FROM THE CO$.
ChewmeBacon 3 years ago 5
i give this girl credit for bening so brave, and smart enough to leave this cult. What so called "church" makes you pay thousands of dollars and tells you, you can't see family members who are not in this church i mean cult.
vladster7272 4 years ago 7
Couldn't agree more with you.
Clownage2 4 years ago
thanks
vladster7272 4 years ago
girl = brave
scientology = cult
me = pissed at scientology
dariusm5 4 years ago 7
OMGOSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so brave!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ohbuddyiliketowatch 4 years ago 5
Basically they "love Bomb" damaged people to indoctrinate them: typical cult operating procedure.
Not a CULT? My Arse!
Skintologist 4 years ago 6
Man, I would be so bummed if my kid got into Scientology- mainly because I know it wouldn't be long before they'd start hitting me up for cash to pay for those bullshit Scientology courses.
asdffd 4 years ago 3
Good for her. I hope that more ex-scientologists out there have a new sense of hope and comradeship with the force of new people spreading the truth about CO$. I am sure she and others like her felt extremely alone. You are not alone any longer! Everyone - call or write your congress-person today! Demand that they look into the revocation of this criminal organizations' tax-exempt status!! That is the one and only'stake in the heart'for Scientology. Hit them in the pocketbook & they will suffer.
ricca119 4 years ago 6
The description of the courses really goes a long way to explain that Scientology "douchiness". They're pretty much conditioned to be passive-aggressive cunts.
Eyedunno 4 years ago 4
wooooooooooooooooooooot
kingtaco11 4 years ago 2
Wow..freaking insane!
GO Annonymous!
AngeliaChanel 4 years ago 5