Derren Brown - The Experiments: The Gameshow (Full)

[djzapz]

What a bunch of assholes we are.

[ThiagosbbBR]

Amazing!

[superhashka]

this made me sick to my stomach, i don't think i want to live among people, no respect for others and ultimately no respect for themselves. sure Derren is encouraging them but don't they have a mind of their own. if this is what people are underneath i'm afraid this is the end for us as a species. i really don't to want this to be true

[polopopoo]

@superhashka I think alot of what darren does is to show human nature and how to counter it. Mob mentality is a scary thing, alot of evil carried out thru it.

[paranoidandroid2442]

I'm a big fan of Derren but I was a bit disappointed in this show. Things like this have been done so many times and there was nothing revelatory about it. Worst episode ever!

[sroman4]

I don't see the connection between this game show and "mob mentality". It's a show, so they know nothing too awful is going to happen to this guy. They played clips of Chris that made his seem like an unsavory character. This isn't mob mentality, The "nice" options are boring and don't make for a good show. it just people wanting to be entertained on a game show.

[ZioZambe]

@sroman4 I agree!

[Median333]

There were so many things that could have gone wrong

[Median333]

what if the guy suddenly decides to go home?

[jamesvozar1]

great stuff Derren

[PerfectPotion]

I wouldn't have wanted his stuff smashed, but I would have voted for all of the bad things, since they're fairly harmless and just give him a cheap scare until they tell him everything that happened. Also, we're in a society that stresses being nice to others, so this is a nice chance for people to have some fun. If we were all already mean, it might be a treat to see someone happy.

[no2religions]

And it doesn't bother anyone that this is how we choose our political leaders too?

[ThisSentenceIsFalse]

Humans in crowds. Fear them. Fear us.

[slipknotsr]

Fantastic. make people realise their action

[alo754]

After 50 minutes he threw in a fake film. I guess he really is honest about his dishonesty. A man of his word I guess.

[Devoti]

this made me love Derren Brown even more :D it turned ugly incredibly fast, i must say i was shocked, but it's innate i guess. i especially like that he made it end that way, it must really have woken up the crowd.

[RasAhmose]

well done.

bottom line, People are fucking pathetic.

[faddy161285]

Never ever decide someone elses fate.

[alo754]

The episode reminds me of the Stanford prision experiment... but perhaps not as serious.

[cynicalsugar1455]

Schadenfreude

[cynicalsugar1455]

You all have just become THE PHANTOM OF THE OPERA! mwah ha ha!

[ZappsMcJack]

i bet they all feel like total dicks

[ashdavcz]

I usually like DB's stuff, but this failed. The audience knew that the police and kidnappers were actors, that he hadn't really lost his job etc. It's actually far less cruel on their part than what DB did to the bloke who confessed to the murder.

[iridescentsquids]

@ashdavcz "The audience knew that the police and kidnappers were actors, that he hadn't really lost his job etc"

True. But I think a lot of bullying is rationalized. Remember they did suggest smashing stuff in his room. I've seen a locker room full of kids break into another kids locker when he's not there, throw all his stuff about, etc, all in "good fun" and confident they weren't doing lasting harm. Groups behave differently, and individuals rationalize bad behavior more easily in groups.

[MAFiA303]

reminds me of Stanford's prison experiment. people tend to go far when they are not judged individually

watch?v=FkmQZjZSjk4

[mancesterbornn1]

that was shit

[Kinzia87]

Darren rule the world olready

[originalloplin]

This is stupid.

The audience knows that no actual harm will come to the 'contestant'. Given his prankster nature, most of what they voted to do was light hearted fun, the remainder is illegal, and no show would air that without compensating the contestant in some way (or be charged criminally). The audience didn't do anything terrible. I would volunteer to be screwed with in the way that he was if I thought I'd get paid for it, which the audience likely believed.

Flawed Expiriment.

[DjLumbee]

A lot of the votes were barely majority, that's probably why the audience felt duped at the end. Derren wouldn't even say some of the percentages, leaving someone like myself to assume they were barely over 50%. The show had a lot of potential but I honestly think that the audience would have voted the way they did without the masks and the lights on. After all, no one could tell who voted what by simply looking at which decision was the majority.

[Misslink8]

What's interesting to contemplate is whether or not the audience's behaviour is "learned behaviour" or real conscious choice, i.e., are they really trying to get back at someone that Chris represents in their own lives? Kind of like a secret revenge or a wish to 'right' all the 'wrongs' they've endured so far through watching things happen to an annonymous person. And it really is Chris who is annonymous to the audience, not the audience being annonymous.

[HorusOsirisRa]

The audience was seen were they were seated , so the mask wasn't doing them any-good for the people that were smart enough to see that. They should have had masks on BEFORE they when into the theater room. I know that 1/3 to 2/3 the audience knew they weren't really anonymous so that ruined that particular aspect of the show for me from the start . Beside that.This still a Good show Though!

[talovemi]

The best show ever!

[kaloykoynol]

have you guys noticed at the end when some people removed their mask while a few remained wearing it?

[aimonaali]

This was hard to watch... I can't believe they cheered when he busted the TV. Kinda makes me think would I have felt as bad about it if I'd been in the audience.

[IrvingsCreations]

Ideally like British television. It's much more real and straightforward. In America, the little speech at the end would have been ruled to hard for the audience for sure. They simply told it like it was and ended the show. No explanation needed.

[anitacathrine]

Derren is so hot!!!

I wan,t him :O)

[Neal225475]

and wallpaper and farts or whatever are in those things lol

[mrilovemacintosh]

The one thing I am suspicious about is that at the start Brown said "Anything you SEE during the next 50 minutes is true" - but he never mentioned anything about what we HEAR as being true. This means that the results they got from the crowd could all be negative regardless of the actual results since that is the part of the show that we heard. At the end of the day...a group of people being told that they collectively made a specific decision are not going to argue it.

[UUreviews]

@mrilovemacintosh yeah good speculation, but i think the point of the experiment still stands, even if the majority was choosing the "nice" choice there was still a portion of the audience choosing the negative (proven by clapping and laughter), which is as much evidence as you need to say that people make choices differently if they aren't held responsible...having all the choices "fixed" just means it would be easier for derrens crew to set up the possible paths of the event.

[mrilovemacintosh]

Wow that was so powerful at the end. I bet everyone feels like crap.

[notme222]

I'm skeptical. Normally people would want to mix in a "nice" to justify the "mean" things they previously did (and might do later). 100% mean just seems so unlikely. Furthermore, that's a huge risk for a show. Derren, like all performers, doesn't build shows around "it will probably work". He knows.

I suspect the vote was primed (take the real votes but add 30 rigged ones). Surely some of the shouting was. The cheering along would still be real and thus the takeaway fair, but still a setup.

[Trickndel]

@notme222 Have you seen the episode how he failed in the predicting the casino roulette? He also failed during a street show where he was fooling people with fake money. He is taking a risk in all of his shows, but he drastically mitigates it by spends months and months in preparation.

In this show he even took thoroughly scientifically tested psychological attribute about crowd mentality and put it to the test. Check Wikipedia article about deindividuation and related source material.

[notme222]

@Trickndel You mean the one where he happened to end the season by picking the number right next to it in a camera shot that didn't show where they were? Yeah I'm familiar.

[Luchtverfrissser]

From now on, everytime something bad is happening, I'll blame Derren and his masked audienceXD

[revelationary]

Pretty much sums up the voting process in politics.

[amanuscar]

@revelationary 100%

[tettrish]

This is epic! The best ending of any show I have seen so far :D

[Pennyinmouth]

i bet they all feel like assholes now

[irishninja2009]

what is the music at the end??

[Rtv03]

Wow.... Brown's methods are always so geniusly constructed. Epic ending.

[lolololort]

nazis anyone?

[StarLitePyro]

they set it up at the beginning so that you didn't really like the guy anyway by making note of some of the really nasty things this guy has done. This is no way a fair experiment.

[usernamenancy]

@StarLitePyro In a way, this silent "he was not the greatest, sweetest guy in the world so he deserves to suffer"-justification by the audience makes the experiment all more poignant. It sort of reminds me of the stories my great-gramma told us about WW II: a lot of people justified their support for the Nazi party by telling themselves that the Jews, who were regarded and propagandized by many as ugly, money-hungry rats, deserved "punishment" in the form of first taunting and eventually death.

[StarLitePyro]

@usernamenancy I agree with you, however, even my view of him would have also been, "the shit deserves it". It does NOT equate that anyone would have wanted to kill him or physically hurt him, he was just getting a lot of grief. I think it would have been far more revealing had they not stated ANYTHING about his character and then seen how the audience responded WITHOUT tainting their personal view of him. That was my point.

[mrilovemacintosh]

@StarLitePyro If anything it makes the experiment fairer. Just because they heard bad things about him at the start doesn't mean that it makes anything they did as a mob any more morally acceptable. It shows what people are capable to do together even if they dislike someone or something.

[Norgano]

This isn't the same as Milgrim experiments. Milgrim showed that if people ordered by an authority figure we will do things against our morals; this is about if we feel anonymous or part of a crowd, we will get rapped up in that and do things against our morals because we won't feel responsibility for it; it's the crowd not "us" after all. So they're similar but it's not just a rehash of the Milgrim experiments.

[okamichamploo]

watching the start it seems painfully obvious like this is about mob mentality (especially when he has them put the masks on). It could be that I already know from the shows intro, but I`d be really curious why anyone with some basic college study in psychology wouldn`t be able to figure out what was going on.

I don`t know maybe I would`ve fallen for it to, but I`d like to think I would`ve seen it.

[lassewernblad]

Derren swaps the A and the B at the doors = Mind Fuck

[MPTPGV]

@lassewernblad

Don't forget that he suggested the door three times when talking to the guy, you can pick A, or B--he pointed--and when you've chosen, just lower your shoulder and run right through--he lowers his shoulder and pushes himself in the direction of B. Second, most people take the opposite of a coin when they flip it, thus when he said it's A on top there. The guy immediatelly considers B to be the opposite.

[FlashJack85]

The choice was not as free as it seemed. Derren set the guy up to be punished for the first choice, and all subsequent choices followed that first step on the path.

[fugazi0311]

"Now I can tell you, in one of these hot dogs is made proper juicy, tender dog meat. As you'd expect. The other one is a vegan friendly substitute made of soya(?) and wheat protein and wallpaper and farts. Whatever goes into those things."

lolol

[Melopeed]

I think it's a fake.

[br0dskalk]

@Melopeed you need to watch more of his shows. this is what he does. It is important that we understand how this works. This also works in political voting. politicians demonize groups so we will vote against the groups.

we need to be educated like this. Show what we are capable of and how certain people have abused this for centuries without us knowing.

[deadmanavir]

Well i guess the English can't blame the Germans for what they did now after they have watched this ! 

[wybo2]

Final summation:

When you want to commit genocide, use humor to convince your troops to do so.

[moniapadme]

Brilliant show! I think that people got the point now. The audience had a free choice. I understand they wanted bad things for fun and entertain but on the other hand they knew that everything will be real for him but they keep voting bad anyway. That's the reason it wasn't nice.

Also, does anyone know who is this girl from Big Brother and why she was so hated?

[FijneWIET]

Milgram proven right yet again

[wallymeldrum]

it's funny how no one clapped at the end.

[5Element4]

@wallymeldrum No one clapped because they probably all felt guilty as hell...

[MetalMatt93]

@wallymeldrum Because they all felt like arseholes, hahah.

[biologyprodigy]

I'm sure if Derren gave the audience an option for that guy to get run over by a car they would have picked it.

[Nemesis000000]

@biologyprodigy Yeah I actually thought that's where it was going. Actually I thought the kidnappers would take him to a room, and they would choose whether to let him go or have the thugs beat him up. But I figured once it got to that point they would stop it.

[Clausfarre]

It was uncomfortable, he got his point across, roll credits. Before, when he had people do robbery or even murder (last week,) at least the ride was exciting and fun. I was at 'we get it Derren, we get it' after five minutes so for me this was an unnecessary 'experiment'.

[FijneWIET]

@Clausfarre I agree: The Gameshow + The Assassin = The Heist

[Nemesis000000]

This would never pass ethical standards for a real psych experiment, that's for sure. That audience must feel like shit.

[wallymeldrum]

@Nemesis000000 what about the milgram experiment?

[Nemesis000000]

@wallymeldrum Exactly. That's held up today as an example of what you cannot do anymore.

[wallymeldrum]

everything we see eh? what about what we hear? 

[Mahoivlich]

There was a reason Rome had gladiatorial games.

[deadmanavir]

Predictable near the end !!! But nonetheless ... golden !!!!