you guys sound like a couple of bitches!!!! shut the fuck up! Go to forum and bitch at each other.........good video! Other than that stop the gay ass bitching!!!!
@MaskedReaper13 <------------------------ Last time I checked 922r Compliance was 10, or less russian parts dumb@ss...
Not everyone is interested in a Saiga 12 customised exactly to your liking... Geez! I can't stand the f#ckin' youtube "Conversion Nazi's" who run around youtube yelling "You need to convert it!"
Not everyone wants to screw up their Saiga 12's for running bird shot, just because they did...
@TheNandor Once you go over a 5 round capacity you take it out of a sporting configuration. Then you cannot have more than 10 foreign parts. You need to find out your foreign parts count. Your local BATFE Office would be extremely happy to help you. Please resolve the issues and quit posting videos with comments that put us legal Saiga owners in peril. We dodged one bullet and here you are giving them another one. Visit the Saiga 12 forums.
@leadsled213 Maybe you should be reading the forums you mention. The 5 round limit is only on fixed magazines. The detachable magazine on the Saiga 12 counts as 1 evil feature with no mention on capacity limit.
@TheNandor WOW.....you truly have no clue do you? Do a quick Google search. A magazine counts as 3 of the possible 20 countable parts under the law. These are the body, follower, and floorplate. A pistol grip does not count because it never came with one. Google 922r and see how truly stupid you are. " Evil features"? WTF are you talking about? The Study on the importation of shotguns? That's not law and has been quashed by the Congress.
@leadsled213 sigh. i live in an awb state so yes, evil features matter. and yes, enough parts have been swapped out to stay at the 10 part limit. The american magazine is 3 just by itself not to mention the parts forward of the magazine I've swapped.
@TheNandor Thank You very much. I apologize for getting upset. I live in a Free State and 922r is everything because we go for pistol grips and collapsible stocks and unlimited mag capacities. I just don't want to see people get in trouble nor my rights infringed upon. Good Day, Sir!
@leadsled213 "I just don't want to see people get in trouble nor my rights infringed upon. Good Day, Sir!" The government already infringed on all of our rights with 922r. What a bullshit law and organization. (BATFE......it's ok to give guns to Mexican criminals but let's screw honest U.S. Citizens with stupid fucking micky mouse restrictions......what part of "shall not be INFRINGED" in the 2nd Amendment did they not understand?!)
The fastest way to pin point a "Conversion Nazi" is to post to them:
"Is my Saiga 12 922r Compliant?"
YOU WON'T HEAR A PEEP FROM THEM! THEY WILL REMAIN QUIET AS A MOUSE, AND WILL REFUSE TO REPLY BACK TO YOU FOR FEAR THAT THEY MAY BE WRONG AND GIVE YOU FALSE ADVICE CAUSING LEGAL REPROCUTIONS THAT MAY FALL BACK ON THEM!
So they run around asking you instead "Are you 922r compliant?" LOL!
Last time I checked the Saiga 12 has only 14 Russian parts...
Let's try and keep your information factual here please... It makes you look like a hipocrite if you run around youtube asking everyone if their Saiga 12 is 922r compliant, yet you then put out false information such as saying the Saiga 12 is comprised of 20 russian parts... It's not... It comes factory configuration with only 14 russian parts...
@155Millimeter How did you quote me as saying "20 Russian parts?" from "possible 20 countable parts under the law." That would be the FEDERAL law that lists all the parts that maked up a firearm. As you so astutely pointed out, the S12 has fewer than 20.
It's only a federal law. Ignore it if you want. MINE IS COMPLIANT. The legal repercussions are on the person in violation of the law.
I am not a HYPOCRITE, just someone that knows how to READ and WRITE.
@155Millimeter Please don't apostrophize a plural. It makes you look stupid and is an insult to the language. Quit using the term "Russian parts". The term you are struggling to find is FOREIGN PARTS COUNT. The foreign parts count on a Saiga 12 taken out of sporting configuaration can be no more than 10. As you already stated, the foreign parts count of a sporting configuration Saiga 12 is 14.
If you have non-Russian foreign parts on it, it still counts as FOREIGN PARTS.
Ha! Ha! "Conversion Nazi now becomes Grammar Nazi..."
Sorry dude... That you feel you now have to stoop to the critique of my Grammar, and lack of defining specific terms. I initially thought I was debating with someone here who has a strand of common sense.
Most people with some sort of "intellectual capacity" would know "RUSSIAN PARTS = FOREIGN" and "American parts = Non-Foreign", but I guess you really needed to dig deep here so as not to look like you just got PWNED. ;)
I know a few things when it comes to the Saiga 12 dude... And my knowlege comes with no thanks to the "Conversion Nazi's" either, I had to learn it all myself, because the "Conversion Nazi's" always refuse to reply when any new Saiga 12 owner posts a question to them such as this one:
"Is my Saiga 12 922r Compliant?"
(Complete silence with crickets chirping in the background.)
The reason why the "Conversion Nazi's" refuse to answer the question when asked by a new guy on whether or not his Saiga 12 is 922r Compliant or not is simple...
The "Conversion Nazi's" refuse to answer because truthfully they themselves are not 100% sure, without a shadow of a doubt on fully understanding 922r.
922r is a very complicated law, that the BATFE could easily stretch to their likings should they ever pick and choose to do so against anyone...
@frankgon4 It's definitely a problem with the drum mags as I have no problem with the promag 10 round stick mags. It seems that something it catching the bolt about half way back into battery as it strips off another round. Saigas are never the same twice, so I probably need to file down something on the mag to get it to stop catching. I haven't had an opportunity to try it again, but have been using the stick mags with no problem.
@TheNandor Just got back from the range and the 12 round drum fed with no problems. A Problem I did have is that when the drum is fully loaded, I need to lock the bolt back before I attach the drum. I could not attach the drum with the bolt forward. My drum did come with instructions on filing down certain areas if the drum did not catch. I did not do any filing to mine. The 5 round stick I have also worked fine.
you guys sound like a couple of bitches!!!! shut the fuck up! Go to forum and bitch at each other.........good video! Other than that stop the gay ass bitching!!!!
tonedamuss 2 months ago
@MaskedReaper13 <------------------------ Last time I checked 922r Compliance was 10, or less russian parts dumb@ss...
Not everyone is interested in a Saiga 12 customised exactly to your liking... Geez! I can't stand the f#ckin' youtube "Conversion Nazi's" who run around youtube yelling "You need to convert it!"
Not everyone wants to screw up their Saiga 12's for running bird shot, just because they did...
155Millimeter 3 months ago
promag drumps are POS pieces of shit!
HeavyFuckinMetal2011 3 months ago
Are you 922r compliant?
leadsled213 4 months ago
@leadsled213 No pistol grip or collapsible stock, so it's 922r compliant right from the factory.
TheNandor 4 months ago
@TheNandor Once you go over a 5 round capacity you take it out of a sporting configuration. Then you cannot have more than 10 foreign parts. You need to find out your foreign parts count. Your local BATFE Office would be extremely happy to help you. Please resolve the issues and quit posting videos with comments that put us legal Saiga owners in peril. We dodged one bullet and here you are giving them another one. Visit the Saiga 12 forums.
leadsled213 4 months ago
@leadsled213 Maybe you should be reading the forums you mention. The 5 round limit is only on fixed magazines. The detachable magazine on the Saiga 12 counts as 1 evil feature with no mention on capacity limit.
TheNandor 4 months ago
@TheNandor WOW.....you truly have no clue do you? Do a quick Google search. A magazine counts as 3 of the possible 20 countable parts under the law. These are the body, follower, and floorplate. A pistol grip does not count because it never came with one. Google 922r and see how truly stupid you are. " Evil features"? WTF are you talking about? The Study on the importation of shotguns? That's not law and has been quashed by the Congress.
leadsled213 4 months ago
@leadsled213 sigh. i live in an awb state so yes, evil features matter. and yes, enough parts have been swapped out to stay at the 10 part limit. The american magazine is 3 just by itself not to mention the parts forward of the magazine I've swapped.
TheNandor 4 months ago
@TheNandor Thank You very much. I apologize for getting upset. I live in a Free State and 922r is everything because we go for pistol grips and collapsible stocks and unlimited mag capacities. I just don't want to see people get in trouble nor my rights infringed upon. Good Day, Sir!
leadsled213 4 months ago
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@leadsled213 "I just don't want to see people get in trouble nor my rights infringed upon. Good Day, Sir!" The government already infringed on all of our rights with 922r. What a bullshit law and organization. (BATFE......it's ok to give guns to Mexican criminals but let's screw honest U.S. Citizens with stupid fucking micky mouse restrictions......what part of "shall not be INFRINGED" in the 2nd Amendment did they not understand?!)
DigitalHaze65536 3 months ago
@TheNandor
Get used to the "Conversion Nazi's"...
I find them completely hilarious myself.
The fastest way to pin point a "Conversion Nazi" is to post to them:
"Is my Saiga 12 922r Compliant?"
YOU WON'T HEAR A PEEP FROM THEM! THEY WILL REMAIN QUIET AS A MOUSE, AND WILL REFUSE TO REPLY BACK TO YOU FOR FEAR THAT THEY MAY BE WRONG AND GIVE YOU FALSE ADVICE CAUSING LEGAL REPROCUTIONS THAT MAY FALL BACK ON THEM!
So they run around asking you instead "Are you 922r compliant?" LOL!
155Millimeter 3 months ago
@leadsled213
When did the Saiga 12 get "20 Russian parts?"
Last time I checked the Saiga 12 has only 14 Russian parts...
Let's try and keep your information factual here please... It makes you look like a hipocrite if you run around youtube asking everyone if their Saiga 12 is 922r compliant, yet you then put out false information such as saying the Saiga 12 is comprised of 20 russian parts... It's not... It comes factory configuration with only 14 russian parts...
155Millimeter 3 months ago
@155Millimeter How did you quote me as saying "20 Russian parts?" from "possible 20 countable parts under the law." That would be the FEDERAL law that lists all the parts that maked up a firearm. As you so astutely pointed out, the S12 has fewer than 20.
It's only a federal law. Ignore it if you want. MINE IS COMPLIANT. The legal repercussions are on the person in violation of the law.
I am not a HYPOCRITE, just someone that knows how to READ and WRITE.
leadsled213 3 months ago
@leadsled213
Just the response I would expect from a typical "Conversion Nazi"
Being very vague, and unspecific...
Wasn't I right about the Saiga 12's coming factory configuration with only 14 Russian parts...?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm........!?
Never mind we all know the "Conversion Nazi's" never want to be specific and answer any questions, so I understand why you will post vague...
BTW, My Saiga 12 is "ALSO 100% LEGAL" under 922r Compliance... ;)
155Millimeter 3 months ago
@155Millimeter Please don't apostrophize a plural. It makes you look stupid and is an insult to the language. Quit using the term "Russian parts". The term you are struggling to find is FOREIGN PARTS COUNT. The foreign parts count on a Saiga 12 taken out of sporting configuaration can be no more than 10. As you already stated, the foreign parts count of a sporting configuration Saiga 12 is 14.
If you have non-Russian foreign parts on it, it still counts as FOREIGN PARTS.
leadsled213 3 months ago
@leadsled213
Ha! Ha! "Conversion Nazi now becomes Grammar Nazi..."
Sorry dude... That you feel you now have to stoop to the critique of my Grammar, and lack of defining specific terms. I initially thought I was debating with someone here who has a strand of common sense.
Most people with some sort of "intellectual capacity" would know "RUSSIAN PARTS = FOREIGN" and "American parts = Non-Foreign", but I guess you really needed to dig deep here so as not to look like you just got PWNED. ;)
155Millimeter 3 months ago
@leadsled213
BTW since you felt the need to turn from "Conversion Nazi" to "Grammar Nazi"...
I decided to give you some more of your medicine... You spelled "Configuration" wrong...
You spelled it "configuaration"...
Please be sure to work on your spelling from here on, into the future... It makes you look stupid, and is an insult to the language... ;)
(How does it feel being critiqued by a grammar nazi...? Does it piss you off...?)
155Millimeter 3 months ago
@leadsled213
I know a few things when it comes to the Saiga 12 dude... And my knowlege comes with no thanks to the "Conversion Nazi's" either, I had to learn it all myself, because the "Conversion Nazi's" always refuse to reply when any new Saiga 12 owner posts a question to them such as this one:
"Is my Saiga 12 922r Compliant?"
(Complete silence with crickets chirping in the background.)
155Millimeter 3 months ago
@leadsled213
The reason why the "Conversion Nazi's" refuse to answer the question when asked by a new guy on whether or not his Saiga 12 is 922r Compliant or not is simple...
The "Conversion Nazi's" refuse to answer because truthfully they themselves are not 100% sure, without a shadow of a doubt on fully understanding 922r.
922r is a very complicated law, that the BATFE could easily stretch to their likings should they ever pick and choose to do so against anyone...
155Millimeter 3 months ago
@leadsled213
Don't forget to let us know your all-knowing opinion on how many russian parts you believe are on the Saiga 12 in it's factory configuration...
Even though I doubt we will get that answer... ;)
155Millimeter 3 months ago
I just picked up a Pro Mag 12 round drum and will test it this weekend. Were you able to resolve your drum magazine problem?
frankgon4 4 months ago
@frankgon4 It's definitely a problem with the drum mags as I have no problem with the promag 10 round stick mags. It seems that something it catching the bolt about half way back into battery as it strips off another round. Saigas are never the same twice, so I probably need to file down something on the mag to get it to stop catching. I haven't had an opportunity to try it again, but have been using the stick mags with no problem.
TheNandor 4 months ago
@TheNandor Just got back from the range and the 12 round drum fed with no problems. A Problem I did have is that when the drum is fully loaded, I need to lock the bolt back before I attach the drum. I could not attach the drum with the bolt forward. My drum did come with instructions on filing down certain areas if the drum did not catch. I did not do any filing to mine. The 5 round stick I have also worked fine.
frankgon4 4 months ago
SAIGA 12 IS A SHOTGUN WTF?!
Mathias949 7 months ago
@Mathias949 ... Cod fanboy alert.. dude it could have bulllets in them and not shotgun shells only
maxwello1234567890 7 months ago
@maxwello1234567890 Nice try, but atlast i dont play CoD, I play a MUCH better game. AvA.
Nice try, come again.
Mathias949 7 months ago
@Mathias949 Breaking News! Saiga 12, 20 and 410 are ALL shotguns!!!!!
:/
Stylensky 4 months ago