3/6 Ellen G. White - Guidance for the Last Days - 3ABN on the Road - Stephen Bohr

[proSpiritofTruth]

in its most fundamental form, spirit that is, it is agape love, "Glory to God in the highest, peace on earth and goodwill to all mankind." Jesus Christ would have gone through everything He did for just one of us, in particular, with reference to this post, to you TrodinSod, so do give a fair hearing to the writings of E G White the only writings which can apply historically to "the faith of Jesus" Rev 14:12, the testimony of Jesus" Rev 12:17 and "Spirit of Prophecy" Rev 19:10 it's a privilege.

[proSpiritofTruth]

the Father of lights in whom is no variableness neither shadow of turning." So it is in the means not the cause where the greate controversy is between truth and falsity or between Christ and Satan. For it is the dishonesty with which one seeks all that is desirable where the battle is fought rather than on what is desirable. So divine love according to James 1:17 is all that is desirable which only comes from the Father is my final comment on the definition of "love," agape that is, and that

[proSpiritofTruth]

for the sake of creation, wisdom was brought forth from love divine love that is, as the only begotten Son of God,the Word of God, in order to both create and increase the love of His Father into that creation, permanently without any sin, after an agreed probationary time for this earth, the only place in the physical universe which fell, so that after that time the kingdom of love will expand in perfect harmony forever.Even evil loves the every good gift that is from above and cometh down from

[proSpiritofTruth]

which form organs and connective tissue on the second level, which form the eleven systems on the third level, such as the skeletal, muscular, nervous and cariovascular systems to name four of the eleven which integrate so well as to make one living functional human body.Back to basics we had cause, means, effect and use in that order as the four great prinicples of both God and His creation and that cause is synonymous with love, justice, order, goodwill all of which is self sufficient but that

[proSpiritofTruth]

serpents and harmless as doves," where one is harmless as a dove if they have retained the heart of an innocent child and wise as a serpent if the mind has been properly developed. Only this highest order of life, is in a position, on the top floor to rerify if there is higher orders of life above, such as angels of heaven and God. We can also see how three differentiated levels of the human body make on the fourth and integrated level one body. First level is 100 trillion or so human cells,

[proSpiritofTruth]

(layman's that is) we understand, by looking at the four kingdoms which constitute the physical world (mineral, vegetable, animal and human) and extrapolate it by the product with itself, in ascending order of life from the non life of the mineral kingdom to the human kingdom, four levels to each kingdom. So humans at the lowest level are wise as doves and harmless as serpents, then wise as serpents and harmless as serpents, then wise as doves and harmless as doves then "Be ye therefore wise as

[proSpiritofTruth]

world, and the nine powers of our minds (9 fruits of the Spirit of Gal 5:22&23) and our strenght is in heading Christ to"Be ye therefore wise as serpents and harmless as doves." The fourth part of the four, with which we are to worship the Lord our God with ("all") is in the integrated real world, so to speak, which is the integrated reality of the abstract differentiated composites of physical, mental and spiritual which I personally term the "celestial" world. It is best comprehended in terms

[proSpiritofTruth]

from three infinite linear dimensions, so too the term God describes the ideal relationship between three infinite and uncreate Persons, who being God in each of the three worlds of cause (ininite order) the means (infinite law) and effect (infinite life) where being in the image of God, humans have a heart, with five senses of perception with which to apprehend (a 5 sense faculy) the physical world, a soul with seven powers of reasoning with which to function appropriately in the verbal mental

[proSpiritofTruth]

three infinite and uncreate divine Persons (Father, Word and Holy Ghost or Will, Word and Voice of the one God) and how, just like Paul in Romans 1:20 declares we should know even the Godhead by observing creation, three infinite and uncreate Alpha and Omegas can make one God, just like three infinite straight lines, when perpendicular to one another, make one infinite cube, where just as cube describes the ideal relationship between three infinte straight lines, making a three dimensional cube

[proSpiritofTruth]

the most intense of roygbiv. When these three primary colours (appearing as seven) pass through a second identical prism they are reconverted back, through optical diffraction, to white light once again. So too, our understanding, like the prism can view the Godhead as consisting as three Divine Persons in spite of them never being separate but one in reality, so that when we return from hypothesizing about the real godhead we can now deal with God as one but with the added understnding of the

[proSpiritofTruth]

green appearin like the sausage appears between two fingers held in front of our eyes at close enough range to cause the internal peripheral visiono of both eyes to overlap.The two tertiary colours arise from considering the two possiblities of when red overlaps with blue,indigo arising from the shortest blue wave stretched to the lenght of red and violet by cramming in one blue wave plus the difference in length between red and blue wavesThis accounts for why indigo appears blackish and violet

[proSpiritofTruth]

apprehend the four worlds arising from these four factors of the godhead. I have read that the light from our sun may be described as white light, but that that white light is made up of three primary colours, red, yellow and blue. I have seen a white light photographed in a dark laboratory,travel through an equilateral prism to break up into what appears to be the seven colours of the spectrum of white light, but which is in reality only three primary colours with three secondary colours orange

[proSpiritofTruth]

in fact law without love is the greatest possible evil. The power of sin is the law and the sting of sin is death. Ulitimately there is four great universal prinicples upon which all existence consists, which owe their existence to the four great factors concerning the godhead as in 1 John 5:7; (i)The Father(ii) the Word (iii) the Holy Ghost and (iv)they are one. Jesus our creator tells us that we are made in the image of this one God and as such have four corresponding faculties with which to

[proSpiritofTruth]

and in this context, the Word(1 John 5:7)isDivine Wisdom or infinite law which is a means to infinite order, in not only physically creating all that will ever be created(Colossians 1:16&17) but in transmitting this infinite (justice, love, order or good) continually to all this is ever created which will last forever, but in order to particularly demonstrate to fallen man, what the Father is really like, for that is so fundamental, that even Divine Wisdom or infinite law is nothing without this

[proSpiritofTruth]

TroddinSod I believe that anyone has the right to say almost anything on condition that they can show just cause for it.The price paid for not showing just cause is to jump to a conclusion,just like the man who jumped from a plane in flight without a parachute.Nevertheless you have asked for a definition from Stephen Bohr without giving anything like as good a definition as Stephen Bohr. Here is a challenging definition. "Love is infinite justice, or divine Love, which only referst to the Father

[vasilkrstevski]

For 5:50 Then why Jesus came?

Oh God, please open their mind to see the Way, the Truth and the Light - it's Jesus and nothing else!

It's all about Jesus - read the Word alone!

[jimiduzit]

i am amazed at how many people trash Ellen White yet they turn right around and read books by Maxwell, Lucado, and any other number of "Christian" authors. Ellen White wrote books and some of them are very good. She points you to the Bible. So it is very hypocritical to trash her and read the other stuff that so many people are picking up in the "Christian" bookstore. Enjoy the purpose driven life and the rest of the psyco babble being labeled Christian by so many false Christians. Enjoy TBN!

[dconklin58]

@TroddinSod: "A sinful plagiarist could only amplify the Bible into a message of confusion. "

There's no evidence that EGW was a plagiarist. See the 2008 issue of Plagiary.

[dconklin58]

@tickman: "Adventism does not teach this or agree with orthodox Christian doctrines or creeds."

The quote I just gave shows that not to be true. Jesus aid that the truth shall set us free.

[dconklin58]

@tickman: "Ellen White says we must reach sinless perfection to pass Judgement."

When you confess your sins, your clothed in Christ's righteousness and so you "are" sinless and perfect in God's eyes. Do you wish to wallow in the sins that killed your God?

[tickmann]

Ellen White taught that we must be perfect and obey the law in order to inherit eternal life. Jesus then becomes just an example.

"He showed that it is possible for man perfectly to obey the law. Those who accept Christ as their Saviour, becoming partakers of His divine nature, are enabled to follow His example, living in obedience to every precept of the law. Through the merits of Christ, man is to show by his obedience that he could be trusted in heaven, that he would not rebel” EGW

[dconklin58]

@tickmann: "... becoming partakers of His divine nature,  ...

How'd you miss that clause?!?

[tickmann]

@dconklin58 He imputes His righteousness to us by His grace through faith.

"He who knew no sin, became sin..." We do not become little gods or "partake" of His divine nature... We are redeemed sinners because of Christ. Adventism is just another American religious invention like JWs, Mormonism, Christian Science etc. Just another derivative from anabaptist sectarians. It's a message of uncertainty which leads to despair or spiritual pride. I'm an ex 4th gen. SDA. Pk to boot. I studied out.

[dconklin58]

@tickmann; "We do not become little gods or "partake" of His divine nature."

I didn't say that we do. This is a red-herring argunment. The mark of someone who knows that he is losing the argument.

>I'm an ex 4th gen. SDA. Pk to boot.

No proof.

>I studied out.

Given you've read some of her quotes too literally, you couldnt have studied. You don't know how.

[tickmann]

@dconklin58 “Though all nations are to pass in judgment before God, yet He will examine the case of each individual with as close and searching scrutiny as if there were not another being upon the earth. Everyone must be tested and found without spot or wrinkle or any such thing” (GC 490). According to Ellen White WITHOUT the benifit of Christ!

[dconklin58]

@tickmann: "According to Ellen White WITHOUT the benifit of Christ!"

The quote you gave doesn't support your conclusion--are you getting this garbage off the web from the critics?

Have you seen my list of 80 lies they have told?

[tickmann]

@dconklin58 "in 1844--began the work of investigation and blotting out of sins. All who have ever taken upon themselves the name of Christ must pass its searching scrutiny."

EGW This just is not true. Christ forgave our sins on the cross. "Father forgive them"..

God showed that He forgave all our sins when He raised Jesus from the dead for our justification. Adventism does not teach this or agree with orthodox Christian doctrines or creeds. The Investigative Judgment is false.

[dconklin58]

@tickmann: "God showed that He forgave all our sins "By the HS we sense our need, acknowledge our sinfulness, repent of our transgressions, & exercise faith in Jesus as Lord & Christ, .... This faith which receives salvation ... Through Christ we are justified, adopted as God's sons and daughters, & delivered from the lordship of sin.'

>The Investigative Judgment is false.

Well, you try telling that lie to God. What do you think the Day of Atonement is all about?

[tickmann]

@dconklin58 “The blood of Christ, while it was to release the repentant sinner from the condemnation of the law, was not to cancel the sin; it would stand on record in the sanctuary until the final atonement . . . . Then by virtue of the atoning blood of Christ, the sins of all the truly penitent will be blotted from the books of heaven. Thus the sanctuary will be freed, or cleansed, from the record of sin” (PP 357-58).

This is just pure fiction and it is not Christian.

[dconklin58]

@tickmann; "This is just pure fiction and it is not Christian."

You cannot prove that.

[dconklin58]

@tickmann: "Christ forgave our sins on the cross ."

Christ paid the price for our sins on the Cross. You still must confess those sins to God in order to be forgiven.

[tickmann]

@dconklin58 Wrong. When the Gospel is announced that your sins ARE forgiven because of Christ, it leads those whom God has chosen, to repentance and faith.

St. Paul called it the power of God that leads to salvation. Just hearing the announcement creates the faith to receive and believe wherein one is completly justified.

Baptism delivers the forgiveness of sins as a direct promise of God, right to you.

In the Lord's supper, Christ assures us of our forgiveness by His body and blood.

[dconklin58]

@tickmann: "Wrong. When the Gospel is announced that your sins ARE forgiven because of Christ,"

I agree, so I can hardly be wrong.  It is you who is wrong in assuming that I'm wrong.

[dconklin58]

@tickman: "Confession of 'sins' is meritorius for salvation,"

Again, you aren't reading the Bible! I dsaid nothing about merit. Confession of sin AND repentance from sin is required for you to be saved by the blood of Christ.

[dconklin58]

@tickman: "Is there hope of salvation for you if don't confess every one?"

Look at it from God's POV:

1) If you knew ab't the sin but refuised to give it up, why should He save you?

2) If you didn't know ab't the sin, why should He condemn you?

[tickmann]

@dconklin58 Thank you. So we are saved by our obedience to the law (including worshiping on the 7th day), Belief in the Adventist theory of the Investigative Judgement,

Confession of 'sins' is meritorius for salvation, Ellen White says we must reach sinless perfection to pass Judgement. NO THANKS! This is just not the true Christian faith. It is cultic teaching and not in accord with the reformation. If you hope to be justified by the law, then you are cut off from Christ.

[dconklin58]

@tickmann: "So we are saved by our obedience to the law

EGADS!  What Bible aren't you reading?!? We're saved by faith. The Law points out where you sin and your need of a Saviour!!

[tickmann]

@dconklin58 We finally agree! Unfortunately Ellen White does not. She taught that we ARE saved by our obedience to the law..especially the 4th commanment.

[dconklin58]

@tickmann; "She taught that we ARE saved by our obedience to the law."

No! She taught righteousness by faith. No one has ever been saved by obedience to the Law. The function of the Law is two-fold: to show to us where we sin and two, that we need a Saviour, who is Jesus Christ.

[tickmann]

@dconklin58 The law exposes sins of commission and sins of omission. If you think you're keeping your nose clean by the standards of some prescribed list of conduct, you don't want to see the list of things you should be doing! The problem that sectarian christians have is they don't take sin seriously. They break it down to 'sins' and think they can be overcome by will power. If we could keep the law, why did Christ have to die for us? All we needed was another Moses to give us 50 more laws.

[tickmann]

@dconklin58 "Sins that have not been repented of and forsaken will not be pardoned and blotted out of the books of record, but will stand to witness against the sinner in the day of God” (GC 486). How are you doing with your sins? Have you forsaken them? Are you still sinning? According to your own Prophet, your very life is on the line if you don't overcome those pesky little bad habits or dirty thoughts. Bring you much comfort? "There is therefore NO condemnation in Christ Jesus"

[dconklin58]

@tickmann: "How are you doing with your sins? Have you forsaken them?"

Hopw are you doing with your sins? Have you repented of them as the HS reveals them to you, or do you go into denial that they are sins?

[tickmann]

@dconklin58 My sins will take me to the grave. I am the thief on the cross that confesses "I am getting what I deserve"..But because of Christ I live in hope and confidence that He will raise me to eternal life on the last day. All my sins that I struggle with now and that overtake me time and again, will not even be mention by Christ on that day. No need to worry about judgement day. It's already happened when God raised Him. The one who will judge us is the one who died for us. Good news!

[dconklin58]

@tickmann: "sins that I struggle with now and that overtake me time and again, "

See what the Bible says about overcome, overcomer, overcometh.

[dconklin58]

@tickmann: "It's a message of uncertainty which leads to despair or spiritual pride."

Again see what the SDA Adult Sabbath School quarterly from 2000: "SS quarterly" "assurance of Salvation"

[dconklin58]

@tickmann: "All my sins that I struggle with now and that overtake me time and again, will not even be mention by Christ on that day."

Do a Bible study on the word "overcome." Revelation 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.

[dconklin58]

@tickmann: "Bring you much comfort?"

Do a search on the web for "assurance of salvation" "SS quarterly". The SDA church spent an entire quarter studying the very concept of our assurance of Salvation through Jesus Christ.

[dconklin58]

@tickmann: "According to your own Prophet, "

I don't have a prophet. I have never called EGW a prophet, nor did she call herslef a prophet. I don't think that anyone should call her a prophet.

[dconklin58]

@tickman: "What if one forgets or is just ignorant of a sin?"

Already answered this one, why the repeat?

The HS brings things to rememberance. Would you judge someone guilty of something that they were ignorant of? No. So, why would you expect God to do that? Is your faith in God so weak that you can't trust Him to deal with you fairly?

[dconklin58]

@tickman: "If you know 'the truth" about how one inherits Heaven, why are you being cagey?"

1) I have never claimed to know how one inherits heaven.

2) I have not been "cagey."

3) I don't go around lying about my fellow man either.

[dconklin58]

@tickman: "Must one believe the Adventist doctrine of the Investigative Judgement in order to be raised to eternal life by Jesus Christ?"

Must one believe what the Bible says in order to be saved? Yes. Must one know each and every single doctrine in the Bible perfectly in order to be saved? No. What if, you had the chance to know but rejected the opportunity? Then you are judged as if you had known because you had the chance to know.

[tickmann]

Listen to Desmond Ford speak on forensic justification.. Adventism is a religion for Pharisees ..It turns Gospel into law and is therefore no Gosple at all.. Doctrines like the Investigative Judgement, Door of Mercy... strip away the atonemnt of Christ for the sinner plain and simple. Jesus did not give Himself on the cross to help us obey Moses. He gave Himself for us because we CAN'T obey Moses. "For I by the law have DIED to the law so that I may live to Christ" St. Paul.

[dconklin58]

@tickmann: "Listen to Desmond Ford speak on forensic justification."

Justifiocation is more than just forensic. Ford doesn't know what he is talking about.

[tickmann]

@dconklin58 of course he knows what he's talking about! He's preaching the Gospel of Christ. Grace alone, through faith alone, by Christ alone. The problem is that Seventh Day Adventist theology denies this doctrine on it's face. Adventism is a bald works/righteousness system.

[dconklin58]

@tickmann: "He's preaching the Gospel of Christ. Grace alone, through faith alone, by Christ alone."

You have succiently stated what SDA theology teaches. Thank you!

[tickmann]

@dconklin58 Is Jewish Sabbath observance neccessary for salvation? Does one need to accept the theory of the Investigative Judgement in order to be saved? May one still enjoy bacon with their eggs or a tender lobster dinner and still be considered justified by grace through faith alone? Must one confess every single sin in order to be expunged? What if one suffers a bad memory and forgets one? Did Jesus bear our sins on the cross or will Satan ultimately bear of our sins as the scape goat?

[dconklin58]

@tickmann: "Is Jewish Sabbath observance neccessary for salvation?"

There were no Jews at Creation (just Adam and Eve).

>Must one confess every single sin in order to be expunged

Yes. Why would you want to hang onto a sin that Christ died to set you free from?

>Did Jesus bear our sins on the cross

Yes.

>will Satan ultimately bear of our sins as the scape goat?

Satan bears the guilt for tempting us to commit our sins.

[tickmann]

@dconklin58 You haven't addressed my questions regarding the Investigative Judgment. Must one accept this theory in order to inherit eternal life? What about sabbath keeping? Must one observe the saturday jewish sabbath in order to inherit eternal life? Adventism teaches clearly that Satan bears our sins as Azazel the scape goat. This is not what the New Testament teaches. This teaching is only a 'vision' of Ellen White, It is not supported by the Bible. Have you confessed every single sin?

[dconklin58]

@tickmann: "You haven't addressed my questions regarding the Investigative Judgment."

You didn't ask any. I can answer questions that don't exist.

>Must one accept this theory in order to inherit eternal life?

Its not a theory. It is based on biblical fact. See the Day of Atonement sevrvice that was performed each and every single year after Sinai.

>Must one observe the saturday jewish sabbath

No such thing as a Jewish Sabbath--already answered once.

[tickmann]

@dconklin58 OK..Now I think you're dodging and wordsmithing.. Must one worship on the 7th day in order to be saved? Must one believe the Adventist doctrine of the Investigative Judgement in order to be raised to eternal life by Jesus Christ?

These are simple straightforward questions. If you know 'the truth" about how one inherits Heaven, why are you being cagey? Just share the truth. What if one forgets or is just ignorant of a sin? Is there hope of salvation for you if don't confess every one?

[dconklin58]

@tickmann: "OK..Now I think you're dodging and wordsmithing."

Why tell such a lie?

>Must one worship on the 7th day in order to be saved?

Ok, so you are admitting that there's no such thing as a Jewish Sabbath. Good. The Sabbath is the 4th Commandment. Can one break any of the 10C's and be saved? No. Jesus died to save us FROM our sins, not so that we could continue in them. We are to overcome (nice word study in the NT on that our sins.

[TroddinSod]

@Mrand79 What's your point? You still have not come up with a definition of 'love', or, better put, 'agape'. All you're doing is reciting what the outcome of 'love' should be, but, you still haven't given a definition of what the word means. Further, the 6 of the 10 commandments pertaining to 'love your neighbor', are grossly incomplete regarding all the manifestations of love like: lay down your life, edify in sound doctrine, give to those who are in need, etc. So,what is your point?

[TroddinSod]

What a pure load of crap.

He never gives the definition of 'love'.

He only talks about it's 'amplification'.

Amplification is NOT definition.

This man's sermon in nothing but double speak. To put Ellen White's commentary as an 'amplification' or 'clarification' of the Bible, it the most preposterous, incredulous, & near blasphemous notion to contemplate.

Shame on this man for deluding the public to utter nonsense.

A sinful plagiarist could only amplify the Bible into a message of confusion.

[Mrand79]

@TroddinSod

Second great commandment defined by the last 6 commandments of the 10, love our neighbour:

"For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law." Romans 13:9-10

[dconklin58]

@TroddinSod: "Second great commandment defined by the last 6 commandments of the 10, love our neighbour:"

Why did you ignore the first law? Love God, with all your heart, mind and strength. This is s shown in the first 4 commandments. If you do not do this first then you cannot love your neighbor.

[TroddinSod]

@dconklin58 "Why did you ignore the first law? Love God, with all your heart, mind and strength. This is s shown in the first 4 commandments. If you do not do this first then you cannot love your neighbor."

It's typical that an EGW fan can't read properly or understand the thrust of someone's point. I was merely pointing out the fact that there are many more commandments in the NT that 'amplify' the second great commandment well beyond the last 6 commandments of the 10 did.

You need to repent.

[dconklin58]

@TroddinSod: I'm not a fan of EGW; I quoted from the Bible. I can't read minds and guess what your point was. I simply balanced a one-sided approach that I often see. We all have to repent; every day.

[rocamphardy1]

@TroddinSod Yeah, what would You know mate... I happen to know Pastor Bohr personally, and He did not become a Biblical Scholar because He talks rubbish. Don't Blame His intellect and Preaching, for Your ignorance... as it is clear you don't have any knowledge...

[dconklin58]

@TroddinSod: "He never gives the definition of 'love'."

As he noted, you read the Conflict of the Ages series.

>A sinful plagiarist

She wasn't a plagiarist; see the 2008 issue of Plagiary.

[dconklin58]

@TroddinSod: "A sinful plagiarist could only amplify the Bible into a message of confusion. "

There's no evidence that EGW was a plagiarist. See the 2008 issue of Plagiary.

[TroddinSod]

@dconklin "There's no evidence that EGW was a plagiarist. See the 2008 issue of Plagiary."Yeah that's what Chrisitan Scientists say about Mary B. Eddy regarding the writings of Hegel. Does a person ever know when they are deceived?

Please tell me, why are SDA's not content with the Bible as the final authority on all matters?From what little I've read of EGW why would anyone spend their time reading her fluffy non substantive alleged phrophecies when they could be spending it reading God's Word?

[dconklin58]

@TroddinSod: "Yeah that's what Chrisitan Scientists say about Mary B. Eddy regarding the writings of Hegel."

I've never seen such a claim, nor do I care. My work was published in a scholarly, refereed journal.

[MentorOfMinos]

Oh dear me, you're an angry sort. What confusion did Mr. Bohr teach? Is it confusion to keep the 10 commandments? Is it confusion to love your neighbor as yourself? Is it confusion to honor God? If so, then it's confusion to be a Christian becuase what Jesus taught was to love God, to love your neighbor as yourself, and to follow His commandments. I don't see where any confusion is. I think, perhaps, you just have an agenda because you don't like what the SDA church teaches because you're wicked

[TroddinSod]

@MentorOfMinos Oh dear me, you're a foolish sort. The confusion Bohr teaches, is that he never defined what love means. Yet he said he was going to, but he never did. Following the 10 commandments is an aspect of 'loving' indeed, but it is not a definition. Of course, being brainwash victim of SDA you wouldn't know the difference now would you. Also, it's blaspheme, not to see the finished redemption in Christ's Suffering & Death. You add the law to the Gospel - which is no gospel at all.

[unexpected98]

@TroddinSod Do not comment so ignorantly on what you dont understand. 1st Corinthians 13 defines love. Rread the bible it will explain what he has said probably clearer. Have a great day.

[TroddinSod]

@unexpected98 You have a great day too!! And while you do, think about why this man never defined the word 'love'. When Jesus quoted the Old Testament, He used the word 'agape'. Does this worshiper of the false teaching of EGW, not see the need to define the words he uses? That's ignorance my friend, and you all the more ignorant in not expecting more out of men who bet paid to study the Scriptures. It's you that needs to read the Bible & toss in the garbage EGW's heresies.

[Baraka703]

@TroddinSod Maybe I missed something, but does this man state that "God is Love?" What greater definition of love is there in this universe!? None! As for the childish bickering, listen to the message speaking of where Jesus says that we are to love our neighbor as ourselves. We are all old enough to understand what Christ meant in this teaching to the rich young ruler or lawyer as some folks call may call him. Let's show ourselves to be true followers of God and treat each other as He commanded

[Frosty6677]

Thank you very much for posting these clips. So enlighting. Praises be to God and may he richly bless your life for your 'influence.' I just recently converted to SDA from a Sunday observing Christian denomination. In my daily reading and searching for God's truth, I have never been so astounded and humbled that God can open our eyes to secrets in HIS word that Sunday observers cannot see. It is a humbling experience indeed. God bless you and your family.

[jalisa146]

@Frosty6677 To God be the Glory!

[stutterthepimp]

@Frosty6677 same here i was converted to SDA from sunday in March this year GOD his good and JESUS is the truth...

[deborahbetty58]

Thus says the Lord, Your Redeemer, the Holy One of Israel: "I am the Lord your God, who teaches you to profit, who leads you by the way you should go. (Isaiah 48:17) If thou wilt return, O Israel, saith the LORD, return unto me: and if thou wilt put away thine abominations out of my sight, then shalt thou not remove. Thus saith the LORD of hosts, the God of Israel, Amend your ways and your doings, and I will cause you to dwell in this place (Jer. 4:1, 7). Yah Bless

[saryb4me]

People remain the same. Now, thousands of years later, Ellen G. White is treated in the same manner as the prophets of the past. Consider the following:

Elijah (865 B.C.) 1 Kings 18:22 & 19:14 Isaiah (740 B.C.) Isaiah 30:8-11 Jeremiah (626 B.C.) Jeremiah 7:21-27 Ezekiel (593 B.C.) Ezekiel 2:3-8

[sulla123]

Shadow its Thou shalt not murder if you really look into it.

[ShadowAlin]

like killing gays ? come on ... moses' laws were in direct contradiction with the God's 10, especially THOU SHALT NOT KILL

[djconklin]

>THOU SHALT NOT KILL

The Hebrew word actually means "murder."

[paulwilfridhunt]

I have found this teaching to be excellent as it surely shows us in a clear way how to handle the objections that seem to abound all over the place towards God's prophet. Excellent teacher and gifted preacher.