Dr zakir niak desproves your conspect that the bible is not in error and cropted that this is from god. and im talking by your oun virse not just hear sa .. so if anyone wishes to see this video just type errors in the bible by r zakir naik and see for yourself by virse numbers how this book is in error and can not without a dout be the word of god rather then wich was Givin to jesus(p.b.u.h). name errors in the bible. by Dr Zakir naik
What a completely infantile edited video to unjustly defame a good and honest man. But when I look at muslim videos I am not surprised at this type of attack
Please read these books: Misquoting Jesus, Jesus Interrupted, Studies in the Textual Criticism of the New Testament Christianity in Late Antiquity, The Lost Christianities: The Battles for Scripture and the Faiths We Never Knew, Lost Scriptures: Books that Did Not MakeIt into the New Testament by Bart D. Ehrman, American New Testament scholar. if you are honest spent some time and research. And Also research Quran with open heart and dont follow what media says about islam.
islam is and always will be the truth. but it has to be a heaven and hell. meaning some go to heaven and some go to hell. some are believers and others are disbelievers.it doesnt matter what kind of person u were. u couldve been a monk. you couldve gave lots of charity. u couldve did whatever u thought was good. if u did not do it in a state of belief in one GOD, you did it in vain. most likely u wanted some people to look up to u anyway. u wanted worldly rewards in some way or another.
(cont'd) ...these manuscripts were NEVER even CONSIDERED to be part of the canon, as the case was made by Jay Smith about the Qur'an. Another moot point. As far as Jay Smith following the teachings of Paul....silly. Paul referenced to Jesus Christ in every letter (book) that he wrote. He referred to Christ's teachings and life example. And what you said about him trying to win over souls by any means possible is taken out of context very erroneously.
(cont'd) another moot point by the this video's author. Arius' Unitarian books: Not only did these teachings come almost two centuries AFTER the books of the New Testament were finished, they were not even Christian in nature, by definition of the Canon. If you say that Jesus was not/is no God, when the Bible clearly says He is, you deny the not only Christ, but the Redemption through Him made by you believing. If you don't believe, you can't be saved. Yes, THESE writings were destroyed, but....
(cont'd) ...but he does not speak for all Christians AND he is NOT the only one who allegedly could have done it. Julius Caesar himself was also a suspect, and he was NOT a Christian. Another moot point by the author of this video. he Nestorian texts.... technically, he was not trully a Christian. He believed that Jesus' human and Divine nature were separate, or that He was God before conception and birth and ONLY man afterward, so Nestorius is not a true Christian, by definition of the Bible.
Please. He did not lie. Even those examples of so called burning of Christian manuscripts: false. In AD 367, Athanasius of Alexandria authored the 39th Festal Letter, or Easter letter. In it, he listed the same 27 books of the New Testament that are in use today. The Galasian Decree added one book, that of Judas, to the canon, other than that, all books are the same as included today. The Alexandrian Library? The only person who MIGHT have been a Christian, Bishop Gregory, could be blamed...
It was the Romans in 48 BC who burned down the Alexandria Library Christianity wasn`t started for another nearly eighty years so he has lied by blaming Christians for that Also he claims Jay Smith is not a Scholar but that also is a lie because he has a PHD in islamic studies . and though I haven`t checked up yet I`m willing to bet the rest of those claims are also lies.
So he that made this video accusing Jay Smith of lying has only proved himself a liar
muslims did not burn the Quran :-) every christian liar says Uthman (ra) burned all of the Qurans ... WRONG he didnt burn any Quran you know why ? because there werent any QURANS then it was Uthman (ra) who ordered all of the companions to bring the chapters of the Quran that where written on bones , stones and crude paper etc and then they compiled it together (Quran)afterwards Caliph Uthman (ra) ordered that all of the pieces of paper and stones etc should be destroyed because the all of the
@TurkishMujahid sûra's where put inside that 1 bundle the first Quran so the pieces of stone and cloth where no longer needed ... really i ask myself where do these christians get there info ? i mean how is it that they cannot even get right information about a simple little topic like the compilation of the first Quran ?
Yeah, it is written in the other versions of the bible that some verses were not in the early manuscript..HOWEVER, it is CLEARLy stated that those were not seen in the early manuscript. So , If I read the bible now and follow only the early manuscript , I can do that because it is simply stated.That should be hidden if the purpose is to hide something.... Where is the LIE there my Friend? Is that a lie?
well there are still about 3000 differences between the sinaiticus script (which is the only manuscript with a new testament) and the vaticanus script... btw which one is being used today? or is the one used today is whole other different version?
If Christians are not careful, especially those to whom God has entrusted leadership responsibilities, it is easy to develop the attitude of "big shots" or those who think they have it "all together." Real ministry can only happen through believers if they are humble and desire to serve others.
1st Corinthians 9:22 "to the weak I became as weak that I might win the weak. I have become all things to all men, that I might by all means save some." Like Jesus Christ, the apostle Paul did not come to be served but to serve others. The attitude of a true Christian leader and every Christian should be that of a servant. Real Christian ministry is only possible through serving the needs of others out of a motivation of love.
The pastor who represents Christianity, is a very bad advisor to these unsaved muslims... ALSO, check your sources: John died in 95 ad... HOW IN THE WORLD COULD HE HAVE WRITTEN IT IN 126? (still, i will admit that that man is AN IDIOT.... but this doesnt make their claims true....)
hahahaha? YOU HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO SAY RIGHT? because YOU CANT! your 47 years old and im 15. you just got knocked by a kid. Why did you get knocked? because IM RIGHT. YOUR WRONG.
What are you right about? Ha ha, shut up and run along boy. You have to make a point to win. Facts? Now be a good muzzie and pray to mecca, ha ha ha ha.
"6000 years" Show me where it states that and I'll give you $10,000.
Now I can show you in the quran where it says creation took 6 days and in another spot 8 days. THAT IS A BIG MISTAKE. So this proves the quran is BULL right. Its by man clearly (there are even worse problems but this is relevant to the discussion).
i know that you don't know the New Testament very well and certainly aren't a New Testament scholar by how you took virtually everyone of those passages out of context! You quote verses and paste them together to try and make some kind of argument. But to anyone that half way knows the New Testament... they know how foolish you sound.
Your argument fails because of your lack of knowledge. Do some scholarly research on the context of each passage before you start quoting the text again please.
First and Second Century Christians commonly called Nazarenes and Ebionites were Jewish Aramaic speaking followers of Jesus. They did not follow fabricated Greek or Latin manuscripts of the forth and fifth century but followed the Torah and Gospels taught by Jesus and first century Jews. The saw Jesus as a Prophet, a human being, and a savior to the Jewish people only. He is not God nor the Son of God, these titles are fifth century additional fabricated lies.
Here is what the preface of RSV says about the KJV
"Yet the King James Version has grave defects. By the middle of the nineteenth century, the development of Biblical studies and the discovery of many manuscripts more ancient than those upon which the King James Version was based, made it manifest that these defects are so many and so serious as to call for revision of the English translation. "
Jesus's message has been corrupted - So SAY HIS OWN BROTHERS. SEE the video "Paul VS Jesus's family" on Youtube - part of a documentary made by Christians shown on the DISCOVERY CHANNEL.
Where is the historical proof that jesus died on the cross? In all my searchings tehre is -0 proof of this bullshit, the most I've found is a few small references about a christ figure, but hardly more then a line or two and so ambigious could be anyone, so where is this proof?
The whole Bible is about 5000 years old and in many places Jesus said He was the son of God. Even God the Father in the Old Testament posits the question "What is my Son's name"
Firstly Jesus was crucified, that's a historical fact. I can give you the list of pagan writers that attest to that. True Christians do not worship Mary. We know that she children by Joseph,one James became head of the believers in Jerusalem. The Trinity can be explained better as 1 x 1 x 1 not 1+1+1.
Is jesus chirst is speaking the truth so what's is your problem. You have your own book the Koran or is it because he puts Mohammed's book to shame.
If no then come forward and produce the correct letters written by him
But why should you bother anyway. Or is it because of what the scriptures have to offer and the Koran is a book based on a baseless and misguided dream why are muslims are still lying to their self and other about the history of your so called prophet?
rashon 2007:The original translation of the BIBLE was 1600's into what is called The King James Version. Why would GOD give Muhammed a man who COULD NOT READ, OR WRITE the QURAN? And have in sex with a child own slave rape a and kill peoples who don't see him as a prophet why does your book say GO to the believers of JESUS?
pistongreg, everybody KNOWS muslims LOVE and RESPECT the prophet JESUS (peace be upon him) more than CHRISTIANS and JEWS combined infact how can you TRY to defend JEWS when they REJECTED jesus (pbuh) to be the MESSIAH and SOLD him for 30 pieces of SILVER? while CHRISTIANS today still LYING about the TRUE teachings of JESUS (peace be upon him) by comparing him to PAGAN gods like HERCULES and MITHRA who were KNOWN as SON of GOD westerners SUPPORT dictators and terrorist but they BLAME it muslims
Jesus explains that the reason he speaks in parables is so that no one will understand him, "lest . . . they . . . should understand . . . and should be converted, and I should heal them." Matthew 13:10-15, Mark 4:11-12
Jesus criticizes the Jews for not killing their disobedient children according to Old Testament law. Mark 7:9
Jesus says that those who have been less fortunate in this life will have it even worse in the life to come. Mark 4:25
He spoke in parables to make points.The humble people will be saved but the religious peopel who were were hypocrites and self-righteous...outwardly godly but inwardly sinful Mark 7-9 shows that tradtion is getting in the way of what is right. He never told anyone to kill their parents! In Mark 4:25 in a parable he is saying that people hearing the Word of God must use it or lose it.
In Mark 4:11-12 Mystery, musterion (moos-tay-ree-on): Jesus explained the mystery of the kingdom of God in parables so that people could understand what He was saying. The word "mystery" comes from mueo, "to initiate into the mysteries," hence a secret known only to the initiated, something hidden requiring special revelation. In the NT the word denotes something that people could never know on their own understanding and that demands a revelation from God.
Marvellous Job, neocarvi!!!! There is nothing better to prove Jay a liar. Now Dear Christians, see you got a terrific LIAR "JAY SMITH" who lies to defend Christianity. Please tell me if a thief or a bandit or a liar has any religion? Do they follow any religion at all??? Answer is NO! Now you decide if you want Jay to represent your religion; At least I never want him to represent my religion, Islam (no way, man!!!); at least Muslim scholars are not liars.
thats a lie what u are saying about paul you quoted 1 corinthians, it doesnt say deciete! lol !! this is quoting that one must be amongst those people in order for them to recieve the message of God!
the most important thing to know is this, that any additions are written with a line and is in italic writing so that we are aware of this, all we need to do is to look at the earliest manuscripts, and over these thousands of years, its so identical to the origional that God has pretected these words, no one can change the words of God, people have tried but we know these, and dont follow any additions
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Islam is allowed to lie,! theres verses in quran that lieing is allowed!
Paul never brought anything new!, he quoted from the OT and NT,the early writing of nt, 4 gospels ect....
when reading the bible read the whole passage! and please realise that this debate with christians and muslim will never be solved! 2 religions going into 2 diffrent directions! diffrent teachings!
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The Qur'an is confirming that Jews sold Bible stories to Muhammad for some paltry price. Then we learn that they distorted the Scriptures as they read them - causing the "messenger" to believe that they were reading it accurately. In other words, the actual Scriptures weren't corrupted. The only thing that was perverted was the "version" the Jews recited to the wannabe-prophet. Many of Muhammad's twisted variants, pilfered verbatim from the Jewish oral traditions and folklore.
This is another lying sandnigger parasiting off a Nordic Aryan Christian built land
9:123 Oh ye who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers and let them find harshness in you.
Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them." (4:89)
AL-TAQQIYA --sura 47 verse 35- The lying cowardly shitslam duty to pretend to want peace when outnumbered by infidels . fuck mohammed SBUH (shit be upon him)ARYANS AWAKE!
Brilliant video Neocarvi. I grew up in an Atheist househould, and much of the dogma you point out in your anti-christian videos are part of the reason. The other part is that the "Truths" espoused in these ancient 'holy books' often conflict with science and reason, although I hear the diatribes from each faith claiming theirs has no conflict. It's one thing to take a mirror and show somebody how ugly they are. I urge you to turn it around and see another graven image.
i'm not those people, and therefore can't apologize for them. pauline principals are interesting, and actually flow quite well with Christ, and they aren't negative. when he talks about becoming as though you are around, it doesn't mean to become them, but to understand them, and be able to look at things from their perspective. i feel bad because i don't see what good me saying this will do. much love to you all. let's try to work toward community rather than hate.
i'm sorry, but i'm not a big fan of what jay has to say. he might be a lovely man, but he is trying to explain something less important. the text is important, but the love and ideas are more important. in what i see him doing, i don't mean to judge, but it doesn't seem very loving. Christianity is a good thing, from my opinion, but there have been some people under the guise of Christ who have committed atrocities.
In the Sunnah it says that both men and women should grow out their beards. It also says you should grow out your pubes. When they become long and unwieldy, it is appropriate to braid them in dreadlocks. The Sunnah also states you should grow out your ass hairs. Same braiding technique can be used.
Finally, the focus of your attack is on 'JAY SMITH' and his person. You know what they say "Argument weak...attack the opponent, or shout" But the reality is, had Jay said or not said any of these little soundbites, you have not addressed his ARGUMENTS.. and everyone can see this :)
Finally.. even though Jay, in one physical context, with a specific meaning (in that context) says "No, we have not added" then in another physical context says "Yes.. we have added" you cannot simply 'pick' those verbal utterances to prove the point you are making. 'Looks' good though.
I smiled when I saw the way this vid was manipulated... just imagine when we show the Muslims saying "Islam is a religion of peace" then repeatedly show surah 4:34 "BEAT her" :) yep.. should be interesting.
ctually if you researched it in full it says there are conditions to it and it is not allowed to leave a mark so think how lightly that has to be, u have nothing to fight with just lies and insults
Not really.. we reap what we sow... and the Muslims will also reap :) but for Jay.. yes.. what you showed is how a bloke (any) can get himself into trouble when ALL of our words are recorded.. remember..this works both ways.
"The only unchanged bible found is the "Barnabas Bible"
Did you know the Quran uses stories from the Talmud?
the talmud is a foul book that calls Jesus' mother a whore and Jesus the illigitimate son of a centurion who is now in hell boiling in semen. (NOT TORAH)
i know an evengelical woman, and yes they do do whatever it takes, yes he follows his bible but which bible there are so many versions. al hamdullilah Allah took me from them, subhanallah, al hamdullilah
Before you get too cocky about your own holy books and seek to lay mud on the Christian scriptures... look at some very uncomfortable facts about the compilation of the Quran and the character of the man who composed it for his own convenience. 33:50
You love it because it simply fits your preheld ideas... which have been demolished by Jays research. Argue the POINT not the man. If Jay was a huge sinner it would change the validity of his ARGUMENTS ...
As you can see, the producers of this video took half of verse 7, in which Paul was referring to other people and was not an admission of guilt, and used this false evidence to construct an argument that was not supported by the scriptures.
In Romans chapter 3, Paul is not saying that he is a liar. "Someone might argue, 'If my falsehood enhances God's truthfulness and so increases his glory, why am I still condemned as a sinner?' Why not say-as we are being slanderously reported as saying and as some claim that we say-'Let us do evil that good may result'? Their condemnation is deserved." Romans 3:7,8
You have misrepresented the scripture in Romans and Philipians horribly. You may be able to fool those who are not familiar with the scriptures, but those of us who know the scriptures can see your lies. Why did you not allow the Evangelical man to explain what he was saying instead of cherry picking some of his words. You complain that people do this to the Koran but as you can see, you are just as guilty.
Very funny. :-) I meant the hopeless lack of knowledge about Bible scholarship, clear misunderstandings about the history of the early church and a blatant lack of the same critical view being employed on the Qur'an shown by the makers of this video! That's all. :-)
Just a short question - which 'sincere' Christian scholars do you mean?
Also, on the Paul point, have you seen 2 Corinthians 4:2 which explicitly says "Rather, we have renounced secret and shameful ways; we do not use deception, nor do we distort the word of God. On the contrary, by setting forth the truth plainly we commend ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God."
Identifying with those around you by sharing their experiences does not equate to using deception.
ALSO, you totally misquote Romans 3:7 - where Paul is quoting a hypothetical objection someone may make - and goes on to CONDEMN such an approach. I know there's not much context in the Qur'an, but the Bible has verses which are connected together to form a context and narrative. Study it.
I won't try to account for J. Smith, that's not the purpose of this comment.
Um .. understanding something differntly from you is not neccessarily lying. I doubt the man would deliberately lie. If he is honestly trying to live a Christian life then he would not lie. He might be mistaken .. misunderstand .. have his facts wrong .. but he wouldn't deliberately present what he knows to be false as the truth if he is actually living as a Christian.
the Prophet says: 'He is not a false person who (through lies) settles conciliation among people, supports good or says what is good.'
This permissive stance on lying means that any lie which promotes Islam is permitted and not a sin. Satan told the first lie, and Islam continues the tradition.
lol. Didn't you see the brackets, the bracket means (through lies) are not the word of the prophet.
I believe you're confusing pagan paul to Prophet Muhammad SAW, read Romans 3:6-8 in KJV and then in NIV, clearly showing the paul supports lying and you make him look good by removing the brackets from the statement and adding "some might argue" in verse 7.
BTW, you do agree according to Jeremiah 8:8 and Luke 1:3 that bible is not God's word, right??
With all these, i still can't believe some of these people are still brainwashed by these facts their scholars try to hide. Many of them havve never read their boods, but believe in blind faith, hm....
I am curious, how is it that our scriptures lie if the comments clearly disclose the origins of the verses? Seems like its the Quran hiding its mixed origin. Often, Ahmed of Mecca couldn't even remember the 'recitations' and had to eavesdrop on his followers to refresh his memory! And this was from God!?
So if the Hebrew scripture were falsified, then why did Ahmed of Mecca rely on them so heavily?
So tell me, are there any references in the Bible that Christ was not crucified? If not, then the crucifixion was not falsified and the Quran is in error.
Are you dreaming? Quran never uses the Bible as a reference at anytime.
The reference for Christ not being Crucified is found in all the 4 crucifiction/post-crucifiction accounts of the gospels which vary tremendously with each other and these accounts cannot be put in an orderly fashion.
Moreover the Prophecy made by Jesus Christ himself in Matthew 12:38-40 of him being like Jonah, are clearly in consistency with the Quran.
Thanks for these weak refuted arguments, your continued lies, misquotations of verses from Quran and Hadith and most of all the inability to answer any of my questions regarding Christianity from your scripture i.e. the bible.
Your rejection of the truth is no indication of the veracity of the proofs, only your ignorance of them. Satan did no less than you, and he stood in the very presence of God himself. It doesn't surprise me that the pagan god of Mecca has you doing the same.
err well we all have our own lives, this video was dedicated to christian who ask us for proof, since your christian who doesnt use proof or rational ignore it and move on
Mo"ham"ed(PDBUH*) Liked 9 year old pussy. Jesus never married.....Koran= outdated and only relevant 1400 years ago. Bible= Message still isn't tainted by a pedophiles acts. Say what ya want but thats the bottom line.
Paul is a reform Jew buddy.... He does not follow the law of the torah and talmud. Jesus did say that he comes not to destroy the law but to fullfill it. Look at what Paul had fullfill.... nothing! He is an imposter.
Again, bad info about Paul. Paul didn't say anything the torah and Jesus' disciples did not agree with. All the Islamic theories have been debunked but the same bad info is still floating around.
Yeah, these guys are really haven't a clue. They have a false prophet who delievered a false message. Not one of them has assurance of salvation in their false religion. Sad really.
These guys take things out of context. As for Muhammad yup, false prophet. Its too much to put in this comments section so do you want me to send you an email?
I have studied each of the passages that you quoted from Paul...you have grossly used these passages out of context....I urge you to go back and reread the entire chapters that you quoted from.
Dr zakir niak desproves your conspect that the bible is not in error and cropted that this is from god. and im talking by your oun virse not just hear sa .. so if anyone wishes to see this video just type errors in the bible by r zakir naik and see for yourself by virse numbers how this book is in error and can not without a dout be the word of god rather then wich was Givin to jesus(p.b.u.h). name errors in the bible. by Dr Zakir naik
rudeboywaz 3 months ago
Did Tafkeer Productions stop making videos? :(
Terrorist12341 5 months ago
What a completely infantile edited video to unjustly defame a good and honest man. But when I look at muslim videos I am not surprised at this type of attack
FeignofCordor 7 months ago
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Please read these books: Misquoting Jesus, Jesus Interrupted, Studies in the Textual Criticism of the New Testament Christianity in Late Antiquity, The Lost Christianities: The Battles for Scripture and the Faiths We Never Knew, Lost Scriptures: Books that Did Not MakeIt into the New Testament by Bart D. Ehrman, American New Testament scholar. if you are honest spent some time and research. And Also research Quran with open heart and dont follow what media says about islam.
shovon100 8 months ago
Quran:
{Surah-26-the poets (shuara)-vs-210}
and the shaitan (Satan) have not come down with it.
211-and behoves them not, and they have not the power to do (it).
212-Most surely they are far removed from the hearing of it.
213-so call not upon another god with Allah, lest you be of those who are punished.
quranresponse 11 months ago
215-and be kind to him who follows you of the believers.
216-but if they disobey you, then say: surely I am clear of what you do.
217-and rely on the mighty, the merciful,
218-who sees you when you stand up.
219-and your turning over and over among those who prostrate themselves before allah.
220-surely he is the hearing, the knowing.
quranresponse 11 months ago
islam is and always will be the truth. but it has to be a heaven and hell. meaning some go to heaven and some go to hell. some are believers and others are disbelievers.it doesnt matter what kind of person u were. u couldve been a monk. you couldve gave lots of charity. u couldve did whatever u thought was good. if u did not do it in a state of belief in one GOD, you did it in vain. most likely u wanted some people to look up to u anyway. u wanted worldly rewards in some way or another.
imreadyyo26 1 year ago
(cont'd) ...these manuscripts were NEVER even CONSIDERED to be part of the canon, as the case was made by Jay Smith about the Qur'an. Another moot point. As far as Jay Smith following the teachings of Paul....silly. Paul referenced to Jesus Christ in every letter (book) that he wrote. He referred to Christ's teachings and life example. And what you said about him trying to win over souls by any means possible is taken out of context very erroneously.
MrChocolateMan 1 year ago
(cont'd) another moot point by the this video's author. Arius' Unitarian books: Not only did these teachings come almost two centuries AFTER the books of the New Testament were finished, they were not even Christian in nature, by definition of the Canon. If you say that Jesus was not/is no God, when the Bible clearly says He is, you deny the not only Christ, but the Redemption through Him made by you believing. If you don't believe, you can't be saved. Yes, THESE writings were destroyed, but....
MrChocolateMan 1 year ago
(cont'd) ...but he does not speak for all Christians AND he is NOT the only one who allegedly could have done it. Julius Caesar himself was also a suspect, and he was NOT a Christian. Another moot point by the author of this video. he Nestorian texts.... technically, he was not trully a Christian. He believed that Jesus' human and Divine nature were separate, or that He was God before conception and birth and ONLY man afterward, so Nestorius is not a true Christian, by definition of the Bible.
MrChocolateMan 1 year ago
Please. He did not lie. Even those examples of so called burning of Christian manuscripts: false. In AD 367, Athanasius of Alexandria authored the 39th Festal Letter, or Easter letter. In it, he listed the same 27 books of the New Testament that are in use today. The Galasian Decree added one book, that of Judas, to the canon, other than that, all books are the same as included today. The Alexandrian Library? The only person who MIGHT have been a Christian, Bishop Gregory, could be blamed...
MrChocolateMan 1 year ago
@MrChocolateMan
It was the Romans in 48 BC who burned down the Alexandria Library Christianity wasn`t started for another nearly eighty years so he has lied by blaming Christians for that Also he claims Jay Smith is not a Scholar but that also is a lie because he has a PHD in islamic studies . and though I haven`t checked up yet I`m willing to bet the rest of those claims are also lies.
So he that made this video accusing Jay Smith of lying has only proved himself a liar
FeignofCordor 7 months ago
muslims did not burn the Quran :-) every christian liar says Uthman (ra) burned all of the Qurans ... WRONG he didnt burn any Quran you know why ? because there werent any QURANS then it was Uthman (ra) who ordered all of the companions to bring the chapters of the Quran that where written on bones , stones and crude paper etc and then they compiled it together (Quran)afterwards Caliph Uthman (ra) ordered that all of the pieces of paper and stones etc should be destroyed because the all of the
TurkishMujahid 1 year ago
@TurkishMujahid sûra's where put inside that 1 bundle the first Quran so the pieces of stone and cloth where no longer needed ... really i ask myself where do these christians get there info ? i mean how is it that they cannot even get right information about a simple little topic like the compilation of the first Quran ?
TurkishMujahid 1 year ago
he fall in his own pit... utter falsehood
drake2gem 1 year ago
looooooooooooooooolzzzz "i still feel bad for him tho"
may allah guide us all. AMEN!
zee2011 1 year ago
neocarvi fuck you stupid
johncoco20 1 year ago
i knew he was trying to be smart looool
he got nothing but lying lol
al7lm1 1 year ago
Yeah, it is written in the other versions of the bible that some verses were not in the early manuscript..HOWEVER, it is CLEARLy stated that those were not seen in the early manuscript. So , If I read the bible now and follow only the early manuscript , I can do that because it is simply stated.That should be hidden if the purpose is to hide something.... Where is the LIE there my Friend? Is that a lie?
pal17560 2 years ago
well there are still about 3000 differences between the sinaiticus script (which is the only manuscript with a new testament) and the vaticanus script... btw which one is being used today? or is the one used today is whole other different version?
ahmadaz96001 2 years ago
lol This is hilarious.
oombuddah 2 years ago
If Christians are not careful, especially those to whom God has entrusted leadership responsibilities, it is easy to develop the attitude of "big shots" or those who think they have it "all together." Real ministry can only happen through believers if they are humble and desire to serve others.
EAP024 2 years ago
1st Corinthians 9:22 "to the weak I became as weak that I might win the weak. I have become all things to all men, that I might by all means save some." Like Jesus Christ, the apostle Paul did not come to be served but to serve others. The attitude of a true Christian leader and every Christian should be that of a servant. Real Christian ministry is only possible through serving the needs of others out of a motivation of love.
EAP024 2 years ago
The pastor who represents Christianity, is a very bad advisor to these unsaved muslims... ALSO, check your sources: John died in 95 ad... HOW IN THE WORLD COULD HE HAVE WRITTEN IT IN 126? (still, i will admit that that man is AN IDIOT.... but this doesnt make their claims true....)
methodbaptist1986 2 years ago
ownage? no. obliterated is more like it :D
zehrasw0913 2 years ago
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Oh yeah, Islam is the religion of troof. Muslims would ever lie...my ass.
maugustyniak 2 years ago
hahahahaha no but hahahaha
ZeUndertaker15 2 years ago
hes been owned lol
girlsfollowme 2 years ago 2
hes been owned lol
girlsfollowme 2 years ago 2
he just got owned lol well done
girlsfollowme 2 years ago 2
At the end you mentioned about Paul.. Here I found a good video about him..
Paul Exposed!!!
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ThaiboxerAikido 2 years ago 2
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RuslanRuslan098 2 years ago
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Typical muslims, they DEMAND YOU DON'T CRITICISE ISLAM, but that does not apply to you criticising others does it.
Muslims are the BIGGEST liars, excuse makers in the world. Lets review:
You don't know (you ignorant infidel)
It's out of context (blaa blaa blaa)
You must read it in Arabic (ha ha)
They are not true muslims (right)
The Jews did it, the crusades! (look over there)
That is the Jewish media telling lies.
Oh no its never the poor sweet muslims fault who NEVER apologize.
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
hahahaha? YOU HAVE NOTHING ELSE TO SAY RIGHT? because YOU CANT! your 47 years old and im 15. you just got knocked by a kid. Why did you get knocked? because IM RIGHT. YOUR WRONG.
FightforDeath34 2 years ago
"IM RIGHT"
What are you right about? Ha ha, shut up and run along boy. You have to make a point to win. Facts? Now be a good muzzie and pray to mecca, ha ha ha ha.
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
HAHAHA! you havent eaven READED MY FACTS! thats why you are saying ''what are you right about?'' scroll a bit down and get MY FACTS
FightforDeath34 2 years ago
More love and honesty of islam
33:12 'Allah and His Messenger promised us nothing but delusion; they have promised only to deceive us.
8:58 If you apprehend treachery from a people with whom you have a treaty, retaliate by breaking off relations with them.
5:41 Whomever Allah wants to deceive you cannot help. Allah intends to disgrace them and then torture them. (WHAT GOD IS THIS?)
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
Islam = deception = satan
61:5 Allah caused them to be deceived.
8:30 but Allah is the best schemer. (GOD?)
4:142 Allah shall retaliate by deceiving them
13:27 Say, 'God leads whosoever He wills astray.
40:32 That is how Allah leads the skeptic astray.
74:31 We made a stumbling-block for those who disbelieve
5:101 Believers! Do not ask questions it may vex you, causing you trouble.
5:102 people before asked questions, and lost their faith and became disbelievers.
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
the bible is 100% corrupted and wrong! it is even saying that dragons exist and the first humans came in 6000 years ago
FightforDeath34 2 years ago
"dragons" You mean dinosaures, its correct.
"6000 years" Show me where it states that and I'll give you $10,000.
Now I can show you in the quran where it says creation took 6 days and in another spot 8 days. THAT IS A BIG MISTAKE. So this proves the quran is BULL right. Its by man clearly (there are even worse problems but this is relevant to the discussion).
gmcjetpilot 2 years ago
gmcjetpilot-tell me where the Qur'an says that.
thisismalikg 2 years ago
my friend, just wait, my friend showed me the states and i saw it with my own EYES. just wait a bit.
BY THE WAY the bible even says that it is unicorns. WHAT THE HELL?
FightforDeath34 2 years ago
dinosaurs? it is even saying that they are big and flying and breathe fire! what the hell is this?
FightforDeath34 2 years ago
isaiah 14:29
rev 12:13
read those and i hope you burn in hell.
FightforDeath34 2 years ago
i know that you don't know the New Testament very well and certainly aren't a New Testament scholar by how you took virtually everyone of those passages out of context! You quote verses and paste them together to try and make some kind of argument. But to anyone that half way knows the New Testament... they know how foolish you sound.
Your argument fails because of your lack of knowledge. Do some scholarly research on the context of each passage before you start quoting the text again please.
deadandfullyalive 3 years ago
Wow
You made that poor poor Jay look too STUPID.
well i think he deserved that.
MyyLostWorld 3 years ago
Too boring .sory
reymondas 3 years ago
the bible also says "adam son of god" solomon son of god" "david son of god" does it make sense now?? i can come up with so many verses
ask me if u want 2
zakariyanoble 3 years ago 2
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kuchiprincess 3 years ago
how?
TariqDreamer 3 years ago
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kuchiprincess 3 years ago 2
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kuchiprincess 3 years ago 3
First and Second Century Christians commonly called Nazarenes and Ebionites were Jewish Aramaic speaking followers of Jesus. They did not follow fabricated Greek or Latin manuscripts of the forth and fifth century but followed the Torah and Gospels taught by Jesus and first century Jews. The saw Jesus as a Prophet, a human being, and a savior to the Jewish people only. He is not God nor the Son of God, these titles are fifth century additional fabricated lies.
sullie36 3 years ago
Here is what the preface of RSV says about the KJV
"Yet the King James Version has grave defects. By the middle of the nineteenth century, the development of Biblical studies and the discovery of many manuscripts more ancient than those upon which the King James Version was based, made it manifest that these defects are so many and so serious as to call for revision of the English translation. "
JudgeD007 3 years ago
Jesus's message has been corrupted - So SAY HIS OWN BROTHERS. SEE the video "Paul VS Jesus's family" on Youtube - part of a documentary made by Christians shown on the DISCOVERY CHANNEL.
JudgeD007 3 years ago
Where is the historical proof that jesus died on the cross? In all my searchings tehre is -0 proof of this bullshit, the most I've found is a few small references about a christ figure, but hardly more then a line or two and so ambigious could be anyone, so where is this proof?
wolfwing1 3 years ago
Including a son......
irishxxkelt 3 years ago
Even the Koran says that Allah can have a son if he wanted it.
irishxxkelt 3 years ago
The whole Bible is about 5000 years old and in many places Jesus said He was the son of God. Even God the Father in the Old Testament posits the question "What is my Son's name"
irishxxkelt 3 years ago
I do not worship statues and Jesus proved he was the Son of God. Look at my other comment about the Trinity.
irishxxkelt 3 years ago
Firstly Jesus was crucified, that's a historical fact. I can give you the list of pagan writers that attest to that. True Christians do not worship Mary. We know that she children by Joseph,one James became head of the believers in Jerusalem. The Trinity can be explained better as 1 x 1 x 1 not 1+1+1.
irishxxkelt 3 years ago
You can cut and paste and even the devil can quote the Bible to suit his own purpose.
irishxxkelt 3 years ago
What idol do Christians worship?
irishxxkelt 3 years ago
Where? In Job it says that the earth is suspended in space.
irishxxkelt 3 years ago
I think Jay is a joker! He wants to see people reaction and become popular. It's just provocation, there is no argument in here. He has no point.
AAAjMMMiRRR 3 years ago
It's no use. I'm tired of talking to deaf ears. If God wants to save you, HE IS ABLE TO DO IT.
GraceofGod758 3 years ago
The bible is corrupted. Matthew, Mark, Luke etc came around 9-12 years after Jesus so how can their verses be authentic.
solja786 3 years ago
Is jesus chirst is speaking the truth so what's is your problem. You have your own book the Koran or is it because he puts Mohammed's book to shame.
If no then come forward and produce the correct letters written by him
But why should you bother anyway. Or is it because of what the scriptures have to offer and the Koran is a book based on a baseless and misguided dream why are muslims are still lying to their self and other about the history of your so called prophet?
pistongreg 3 years ago
rashon 2007:The original translation of the BIBLE was 1600's into what is called The King James Version. Why would GOD give Muhammed a man who COULD NOT READ, OR WRITE the QURAN? And have in sex with a child own slave rape a and kill peoples who don't see him as a prophet why does your book say GO to the believers of JESUS?
pistongreg 3 years ago
pistongreg, everybody KNOWS muslims LOVE and RESPECT the prophet JESUS (peace be upon him) more than CHRISTIANS and JEWS combined infact how can you TRY to defend JEWS when they REJECTED jesus (pbuh) to be the MESSIAH and SOLD him for 30 pieces of SILVER? while CHRISTIANS today still LYING about the TRUE teachings of JESUS (peace be upon him) by comparing him to PAGAN gods like HERCULES and MITHRA who were KNOWN as SON of GOD westerners SUPPORT dictators and terrorist but they BLAME it muslims
Rashon2007 3 years ago
the quran is nothing more than an anti-jew, anti-christian book filled with jumbled word and much contemp for jesus christ and his word.
pistongreg 3 years ago
PLEASE BIBLE IS NOT A WORD OF GOD!
Jesus explains that the reason he speaks in parables is so that no one will understand him, "lest . . . they . . . should understand . . . and should be converted, and I should heal them." Matthew 13:10-15, Mark 4:11-12
Jesus criticizes the Jews for not killing their disobedient children according to Old Testament law. Mark 7:9
Jesus says that those who have been less fortunate in this life will have it even worse in the life to come. Mark 4:25
IMRANPIRISHAH 3 years ago
He spoke in parables to make points.The humble people will be saved but the religious peopel who were were hypocrites and self-righteous...outwardly godly but inwardly sinful Mark 7-9 shows that tradtion is getting in the way of what is right. He never told anyone to kill their parents! In Mark 4:25 in a parable he is saying that people hearing the Word of God must use it or lose it.
irishxxkelt 3 years ago
In Mark 4:11-12 Mystery, musterion (moos-tay-ree-on): Jesus explained the mystery of the kingdom of God in parables so that people could understand what He was saying. The word "mystery" comes from mueo, "to initiate into the mysteries," hence a secret known only to the initiated, something hidden requiring special revelation. In the NT the word denotes something that people could never know on their own understanding and that demands a revelation from God.
EAP024 2 years ago
LOL talk about getting DESTROYED!
MBS786 3 years ago
Jesus is Lord
Joshua12777 3 years ago
Err "Jesus is Lord"? where did you get that from?
MBS786 3 years ago
JazakAllah for the video!
IslamInternational 3 years ago 2
don't argue with muslims or stupid, they will drag you to their level and beat you with experience
sonatime 3 years ago
This video doesn't prove your point.
faviomasulli 3 years ago
Marvellous Job, neocarvi!!!! There is nothing better to prove Jay a liar. Now Dear Christians, see you got a terrific LIAR "JAY SMITH" who lies to defend Christianity. Please tell me if a thief or a bandit or a liar has any religion? Do they follow any religion at all??? Answer is NO! Now you decide if you want Jay to represent your religion; At least I never want him to represent my religion, Islam (no way, man!!!); at least Muslim scholars are not liars.
gallowspole2002bd 3 years ago 8
well, you certainly are parasites on aryan christians as you postfrom canada
MhmedMotherWasWhore 3 years ago
Christianity is a Palestinian religion. Shouldn't you be practicing Asatru (a germanic religion), o aryan?
AlMamluk 3 years ago
Shove it, it's a Hebrew religion idiot. I swear, you guys are about as transparent as some skank clubber's skimpy little dress.
maugustyniak 2 years ago
thats a lie what u are saying about paul you quoted 1 corinthians, it doesnt say deciete! lol !! this is quoting that one must be amongst those people in order for them to recieve the message of God!
cosmic4peace 4 years ago
the most important thing to know is this, that any additions are written with a line and is in italic writing so that we are aware of this, all we need to do is to look at the earliest manuscripts, and over these thousands of years, its so identical to the origional that God has pretected these words, no one can change the words of God, people have tried but we know these, and dont follow any additions
cosmic4peace 4 years ago
lol this guy is funny
mrfarraj1 4 years ago 2
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Islam is allowed to lie,! theres verses in quran that lieing is allowed!
Paul never brought anything new!, he quoted from the OT and NT,the early writing of nt, 4 gospels ect....
when reading the bible read the whole passage! and please realise that this debate with christians and muslim will never be solved! 2 religions going into 2 diffrent directions! diffrent teachings!
cosmic4peace 4 years ago
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muhammed is a camel fucking childmolesting acid droping pot smoking wife abusing pig with aids!
the same thig goes for all muslims.
do somthing better with your life, blow up a mausk.
i wipe my ass with the pages of the quran.
and clean up my sperm with the pages of the quran.
fuck islam!
prankmaster94 4 years ago
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herbalmate don't be a player hater, and emotional. Prove the jews wrote the book.
stop being soft like a cotton.
dailynotes 4 years ago
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The Qur'an is confirming that Jews sold Bible stories to Muhammad for some paltry price. Then we learn that they distorted the Scriptures as they read them - causing the "messenger" to believe that they were reading it accurately. In other words, the actual Scriptures weren't corrupted. The only thing that was perverted was the "version" the Jews recited to the wannabe-prophet. Many of Muhammad's twisted variants, pilfered verbatim from the Jewish oral traditions and folklore.
herbalmate 4 years ago
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The Koran is no better. It is written by the jews.
herbalmate 4 years ago
Damn, Christina guy got owned, lol, he kind of deserved it for his hypocricy
osmosis1988 4 years ago 12
haha christians just got pwned!!
CFCIrAc1001 4 years ago
No they didn't...? You'd have to do proper research before you can even jump to a conclusion! How close-minded.
Npplboy 4 years ago
owned jay your owned
xtremerace 4 years ago
pwnage !!
TheTrueJudgement 4 years ago
ROLF, this jay guys a douche!
Alhamdulillah we have hard working brothers pointing out such 'learned christians'
May Allah reward the brothers for their effort and hard work. ameen
click2112 4 years ago
Its like the earth under him has been removed and crippling. HAahhahaha your owned jay
xtremerace 4 years ago
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This is another lying sandnigger parasiting off a Nordic Aryan Christian built land
9:123 Oh ye who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers and let them find harshness in you.
Have no unbelieving friends. Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them." (4:89)
AL-TAQQIYA --sura 47 verse 35- The lying cowardly shitslam duty to pretend to want peace when outnumbered by infidels . fuck mohammed SBUH (shit be upon him)ARYANS AWAKE!
MhmedMotherWasWhore 3 years ago
Is The Bible Corrupted?
Surly yes.
Where did these versions go??
Have they been add or removed ??
You answer after you watch the video !!!
HamedMAX 4 years ago
Brilliant video Neocarvi. I grew up in an Atheist househould, and much of the dogma you point out in your anti-christian videos are part of the reason. The other part is that the "Truths" espoused in these ancient 'holy books' often conflict with science and reason, although I hear the diatribes from each faith claiming theirs has no conflict. It's one thing to take a mirror and show somebody how ugly they are. I urge you to turn it around and see another graven image.
CHAS1422 4 years ago
He got Owned
hansjan123 4 years ago
looooool great video! I don't like that guy...he makes me sick
TRUTHOFISLAM 4 years ago 2
Is the Bible corrupt...Yes..Great video...and you shut him down.
going2sleep 4 years ago 2
haha thnx bro keep it up plz nd may God reward u
Ramox3 4 years ago
OWNED!!!
Alhemduillah.
IHS7 4 years ago 2
Awesome
Search4Knowledge 4 years ago
i'm not those people, and therefore can't apologize for them. pauline principals are interesting, and actually flow quite well with Christ, and they aren't negative. when he talks about becoming as though you are around, it doesn't mean to become them, but to understand them, and be able to look at things from their perspective. i feel bad because i don't see what good me saying this will do. much love to you all. let's try to work toward community rather than hate.
dinosommese 4 years ago
i'm sorry, but i'm not a big fan of what jay has to say. he might be a lovely man, but he is trying to explain something less important. the text is important, but the love and ideas are more important. in what i see him doing, i don't mean to judge, but it doesn't seem very loving. Christianity is a good thing, from my opinion, but there have been some people under the guise of Christ who have committed atrocities.
dinosommese 4 years ago
Lolzzzzz, hahaha! That was nice!!!! Oh my!!!
Salaam
madina55 4 years ago
In the Sunnah it says that both men and women should grow out their beards. It also says you should grow out your pubes. When they become long and unwieldy, it is appropriate to braid them in dreadlocks. The Sunnah also states you should grow out your ass hairs. Same braiding technique can be used.
Allah is a Mzghabah.
cairsuckit2 4 years ago
Jay Smith got owned like a heretic!
MuslimGhost 4 years ago
the main piont of focus here is. Is the bible corrupt the answer is simple.....YES.
bhamtopman 4 years ago 2
Finally, the focus of your attack is on 'JAY SMITH' and his person. You know what they say "Argument weak...attack the opponent, or shout" But the reality is, had Jay said or not said any of these little soundbites, you have not addressed his ARGUMENTS.. and everyone can see this :)
BOAZdavid 4 years ago
Finally.. even though Jay, in one physical context, with a specific meaning (in that context) says "No, we have not added" then in another physical context says "Yes.. we have added" you cannot simply 'pick' those verbal utterances to prove the point you are making. 'Looks' good though.
BOAZdavid 4 years ago
I smiled when I saw the way this vid was manipulated... just imagine when we show the Muslims saying "Islam is a religion of peace" then repeatedly show surah 4:34 "BEAT her" :) yep.. should be interesting.
BOAZdavid 4 years ago
ctually if you researched it in full it says there are conditions to it and it is not allowed to leave a mark so think how lightly that has to be, u have nothing to fight with just lies and insults
loveislamictruth 4 years ago
Dude your going down!
The christian Titanic is sinking!
Lol
And you are the captain!
But the truth was there you even know that Islam is true but your EGO says nooooooo!
Saladdin65 4 years ago 2
thats what im talking about
herndonboy13 4 years ago
Brilliant video!! Great work, May Allah reward you for your efforts. thanks. JazakhAllah!
anjypanjy 4 years ago
Excellent video, Thankyou.
moonlightdance 4 years ago
THIS IS BEAUTIFUL!
sharifhhh 4 years ago
Not really.. we reap what we sow... and the Muslims will also reap :) but for Jay.. yes.. what you showed is how a bloke (any) can get himself into trouble when ALL of our words are recorded.. remember..this works both ways.
BOAZdavid 4 years ago
"The only unchanged bible found is the "Barnabas Bible"
Did you know the Quran uses stories from the Talmud?
the talmud is a foul book that calls Jesus' mother a whore and Jesus the illigitimate son of a centurion who is now in hell boiling in semen. (NOT TORAH)
snappa52 4 years ago
i know an evengelical woman, and yes they do do whatever it takes, yes he follows his bible but which bible there are so many versions. al hamdullilah Allah took me from them, subhanallah, al hamdullilah
loveislamictrueth 4 years ago
Before you get too cocky about your own holy books and seek to lay mud on the Christian scriptures... look at some very uncomfortable facts about the compilation of the Quran and the character of the man who composed it for his own convenience. 33:50
BOAZdavid 4 years ago
"the beaty of the bible is we are honest", lol. great video i love the start.
islamsubmission2006 4 years ago
You love it because it simply fits your preheld ideas... which have been demolished by Jays research. Argue the POINT not the man. If Jay was a huge sinner it would change the validity of his ARGUMENTS ...
BOAZdavid 4 years ago
jay is a lieing,hypocrite christian! he knows the truth and denies it!!send him up against dr zakir naik,he will have no chance!!!
hich101 4 years ago
As you can see, the producers of this video took half of verse 7, in which Paul was referring to other people and was not an admission of guilt, and used this false evidence to construct an argument that was not supported by the scriptures.
VTechGirl9 4 years ago
In Romans chapter 3, Paul is not saying that he is a liar. "Someone might argue, 'If my falsehood enhances God's truthfulness and so increases his glory, why am I still condemned as a sinner?' Why not say-as we are being slanderously reported as saying and as some claim that we say-'Let us do evil that good may result'? Their condemnation is deserved." Romans 3:7,8
VTechGirl9 4 years ago
You have misrepresented the scripture in Romans and Philipians horribly. You may be able to fool those who are not familiar with the scriptures, but those of us who know the scriptures can see your lies. Why did you not allow the Evangelical man to explain what he was saying instead of cherry picking some of his words. You complain that people do this to the Koran but as you can see, you are just as guilty.
VTechGirl9 4 years ago
Amateurish.
Jimelia 4 years ago
yeah, that describes Jay alright!
neocarvi 4 years ago
Very funny. :-) I meant the hopeless lack of knowledge about Bible scholarship, clear misunderstandings about the history of the early church and a blatant lack of the same critical view being employed on the Qur'an shown by the makers of this video! That's all. :-)
Jimelia 4 years ago
Well anything we said is what <b>sincere</b> christian scholars say and teach
and subcribe and stay tuned for an episode <b> Is The Quran Corrupted?</b> :)
neocarvi 4 years ago
Just a short question - which 'sincere' Christian scholars do you mean?
Also, on the Paul point, have you seen 2 Corinthians 4:2 which explicitly says "Rather, we have renounced secret and shameful ways; we do not use deception, nor do we distort the word of God. On the contrary, by setting forth the truth plainly we commend ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God."
Identifying with those around you by sharing their experiences does not equate to using deception.
Jimelia 4 years ago
ALSO, you totally misquote Romans 3:7 - where Paul is quoting a hypothetical objection someone may make - and goes on to CONDEMN such an approach. I know there's not much context in the Qur'an, but the Bible has verses which are connected together to form a context and narrative. Study it.
Jimelia 4 years ago
From KJV
Romans 3:6-8 (with context).
God forbid: for then how shall God judge the world?
For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory; why yet am I also judged as a sinner?
And not rather, (as we be slanderously reported, and as some affirm that we say,) Let us do evil, that good may come? whose damnation is just.
These are the verses quoted by Jay in the response video.
Where is paul condemning lies?
aimalkhan 4 years ago
I won't try to account for J. Smith, that's not the purpose of this comment.
Um .. understanding something differntly from you is not neccessarily lying. I doubt the man would deliberately lie. If he is honestly trying to live a Christian life then he would not lie. He might be mistaken .. misunderstand .. have his facts wrong .. but he wouldn't deliberately present what he knows to be false as the truth if he is actually living as a Christian.
GuidSaucy 4 years ago
the Prophet says: 'He is not a false person who (through lies) settles conciliation among people, supports good or says what is good.'
This permissive stance on lying means that any lie which promotes Islam is permitted and not a sin. Satan told the first lie, and Islam continues the tradition.
LothairLorraine 4 years ago
lol. Didn't you see the brackets, the bracket means (through lies) are not the word of the prophet.
I believe you're confusing pagan paul to Prophet Muhammad SAW, read Romans 3:6-8 in KJV and then in NIV, clearly showing the paul supports lying and you make him look good by removing the brackets from the statement and adding "some might argue" in verse 7.
BTW, you do agree according to Jeremiah 8:8 and Luke 1:3 that bible is not God's word, right??
aimalkhan 4 years ago
I addressed this earlier. You should read the posts.
LothairLorraine 4 years ago
The brackets are necessary to have any inclination to what the pagan prpht actually meant when he was coming out of his epileptic seizures.
LothairLorraine 4 years ago
With all these, i still can't believe some of these people are still brainwashed by these facts their scholars try to hide. Many of them havve never read their boods, but believe in blind faith, hm....
madina55 4 years ago
I am curious, how is it that our scriptures lie if the comments clearly disclose the origins of the verses? Seems like its the Quran hiding its mixed origin. Often, Ahmed of Mecca couldn't even remember the 'recitations' and had to eavesdrop on his followers to refresh his memory! And this was from God!?
LothairLorraine 4 years ago
Read Jeremiah 8:8 and Luke 1:3.
Jeremiah in your own bible itself testifies to the fact that the bible/law has been falsified/corrupted by the scribes.
Luke 1:3 clearly states that Luke was not inspired/tickled by the holy spirit to write the gospel.
Need anymore proof
aimalkhan 4 years ago
So if the Hebrew scripture were falsified, then why did Ahmed of Mecca rely on them so heavily?
So tell me, are there any references in the Bible that Christ was not crucified? If not, then the crucifixion was not falsified and the Quran is in error.
LothairLorraine 4 years ago
Are you dreaming? Quran never uses the Bible as a reference at anytime.
The reference for Christ not being Crucified is found in all the 4 crucifiction/post-crucifiction accounts of the gospels which vary tremendously with each other and these accounts cannot be put in an orderly fashion.
Moreover the Prophecy made by Jesus Christ himself in Matthew 12:38-40 of him being like Jonah, are clearly in consistency with the Quran.
aimalkhan 4 years ago
You are dreaming. During his early life, he used the OT frequently as the standard by which his teachings would be judged.
Crucifixion not found in the story? Point it out.
So how did Jesus, in the Jonah prophesy, get into the earth? How about crucifixion, burial and resurrection?
LothairLorraine 4 years ago
Like it said before
Say: "Produce your proof if ye are truthful."
Sura 2 Verse 111
These stories that you're telling me are very warm and sweet, but you have no proof to back it up.
500 alphabets are very less to prove the case of Jonah's sign
See the youtube video (in simple basic english) titled, "A Sign of Jonah (pbuh)" or link to
youtube(dot)com/watch?v=41mi4-nLDzc
aimalkhan 4 years ago
My proof is in Uthman's buring of MSS.
My proof is in the recurrected Christ and the promise of salvation thru grace.
My proof is the contradicitons in the Quran which uses foriegn words, bad gramamr and spelling errors Muhammadans cover up and hide.
LothairLorraine 4 years ago
Thanks for these weak refuted arguments, your continued lies, misquotations of verses from Quran and Hadith and most of all the inability to answer any of my questions regarding Christianity from your scripture i.e. the bible.
aimalkhan 4 years ago
1. Inability to reject the bible's corruption Jeremiah 8:8 and Luke 1:3
2. Inability to prove Trinity from the NIV bible.
3. Inability to prove Jesus' prophecy of Matthew 12:38-40
4. Inability to prove Paul's innocence. Romans 3:6-8
It is clear to anyone (who understands english) reading these verses/our argument that
1. Bible is corrupted
2. Jesus was not killed nor crucified
3. There is no such thing as Trinity
4. Paul was a liar and a hypocrat.
aimalkhan 4 years ago
Your rejection of the truth is no indication of the veracity of the proofs, only your ignorance of them. Satan did no less than you, and he stood in the very presence of God himself. It doesn't surprise me that the pagan god of Mecca has you doing the same.
LothairLorraine 4 years ago
I have done more than refute your arguments, I have given true witess to Jesus Christ by facing your devil and choosing the good.
LothairLorraine 4 years ago
ya right, very convincing. BTW, we muslims are having a trinity of ice-cream on Christian Missionary Styling page.
Wanna join in for our celebration of christian bashing.
aimalkhan 4 years ago
What proof did the pagan Ahmed provide to terstify to his prophethood? A mole on his back?
LothairLorraine 4 years ago
what is music called around 5:06
GeNeRaLAdilo 4 years ago
err well we all have our own lives, this video was dedicated to christian who ask us for proof, since your christian who doesnt use proof or rational ignore it and move on
neocarvi 4 years ago
Mo"ham"ed(PDBUH*) Liked 9 year old pussy. Jesus never married.....Koran= outdated and only relevant 1400 years ago. Bible= Message still isn't tainted by a pedophiles acts. Say what ya want but thats the bottom line.
*Pigs Dick Be Up Him
VideoOutlawz 4 years ago
yes it is 1400years ago and still fresh and preserved, thank you.
hangnadim77 4 years ago
Paul is a reform Jew buddy.... He does not follow the law of the torah and talmud. Jesus did say that he comes not to destroy the law but to fullfill it. Look at what Paul had fullfill.... nothing! He is an imposter.
hangnadim77 4 years ago
Again, bad info about Paul. Paul didn't say anything the torah and Jesus' disciples did not agree with. All the Islamic theories have been debunked but the same bad info is still floating around.
megawolf7 4 years ago
hangnadim77, as he expired on the cross he said, "it is finished". Sounds like more unsubstantiated propaganda on your part.
snappa52 4 years ago
Yeah, these guys are really haven't a clue. They have a false prophet who delievered a false message. Not one of them has assurance of salvation in their false religion. Sad really.
megawolf7 4 years ago
False prophet? prove it..... At least these guys have proofs of the falseness of the bible.
hangnadim77 4 years ago
These guys take things out of context. As for Muhammad yup, false prophet. Its too much to put in this comments section so do you want me to send you an email?
megawolf7 4 years ago
I have studied each of the passages that you quoted from Paul...you have grossly used these passages out of context....I urge you to go back and reread the entire chapters that you quoted from.
shauna831 4 years ago
Can you tell me where you have found Paul saying "I am happy. It does not matter.."
I can't find that quote.
shauna831 4 years ago
Clever editing does not disguise corrupted thinking. Calling truth a lie does not advance understanding.
mhcl2008 4 years ago
The editing is crafty, I'll give you that, but that is not enough to bring me round to your point of view.
martineyles 4 years ago
Just like martineyles said, I'll never be convinced by this video, or that the Bible is corrupted ;-)
JESUS LOVES YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!
doctorh2005 4 years ago
LOL
tabasca36 4 years ago