Naniwa expresses opinion on Nestea

[MackDaddyOnTheTrack]

In the full interview, he calls Nestea an idiot, so all the people saying Naniwa is ONLY saying Nestea is a weak ZvP player can go check themselves. Other than that, I don't care about the issue.

[dzsete17]

down sindrome for sure!!!

[hotclaw]

@dzsete17 Thanks for your medical opinion.

[Kuti210]

@dzsete17 Nestea is overrated. That is the truth

[SuperBenramin]

He is right.... Naniwa knows about players

[vkhang55]

Why are there so many dislikes? Naniwa is actually right on this topic. NesTea has the weakest ZvP in all the zerg players Naniwa mentioned.

[Ryndika]

"you are douchbag because your opinion is different and wrong"

[EziixPked]

dat down syndrome swag

[soulfrost3]

Wtf, all this fanboyism is making me dislike one of my favourite players (Nestea)

If Nesteas weakest race matchup is vP, then it is ok to say that he isn't the best in the world vs Protoss, what's the problem?

[HotShotC92]

@soulfrost3 because nestea has one of the highest i not the highest win rate vs protoss as zerg. His weakest race is easily terran

[mindharvester]

he.s no god hes just a men Naniwa 0.0

[lecolis]

so much nestea fanboyism ._.

[ninearthify]

naniwa didnt say nestea sucked, he only said nestea was not the best zerg in the world VERSUS PROTOSS, and guess what ? he's right, nestea's weakest race is protoss, so relax my people

[operaghostandkitty]

@ninearthify Wow. A rational comment. o.o Are you real?

[ZAFeOnZ]

I see you finally took the camera out of your anus at 0:14

[kentliu]

@ZAFeOnZ This made me lol

[TheNinerion]

I think one of the only reasons some korean gel players are not good against protoss is because in the gsl there are almost no protoss players... its terran and zerg mostly

[nitrostealth6]

DOWNS

[liamjfriel]

-protoss babbys crying imbalance

LOL ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME

-giving a fuck about anything this aspergerite says

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[DrReDDevi]

There are a lot better Protoss players then you.

[CtrlRm]

Naniwa was right about Leenock

[timm7100]

I didn'd know Naniwa was an idiot and ofc protoos weakest race lol what a douche

[Kouterry]

Naniwa Fails so much..... Why probe rush you fucking infant.



[verne51]

go throw more games douchebag

[dncdragon]

yeah naniwa ... lost alot of respect for him lol

[GGEzRa1]

Wow why are people such dicks? He's just being honest. And you should be too. NesTea hasn't been playing impressively AT ALL!

[nitrostealth6]

Naniwa shut the hell up, no one cares about you. Please uninstall SC2 you waste of bandwidth

[guybrush93]

I don't know about that, but, Naniwa seems kinda like a douchebag

[NotGoingCrazy]

@guybrush93 Random?

[guybrush93]

@NotGoingCrazy Have you seen the video of Artosis interviewing IdrA, well, long story short, he asked him what player would he like to hit in the face, for realz, and what I wrote in my comment was his answer..

[Proteinisnice]

Rofl @ the narrow minded fuckwits below me. You whinge and bitch about BMing nestea when 70% of starcraft players online barely even gg or show respect to other players, not to mention his case of autism. eat a dick cunts

[Zaxonage]

WTF he is one fucking cocky ass !



[NotGoingCrazy]

@Zaxonage Dude watch the whole interview

[mog123noblog]

I thought this was about the drink brand lol

[TheLightbulbsLight]

@mog123noblog he was.

[xOXChimeraXOx]

fuck naniwa. spolied faggot should learn his place piece of shit.. "oohh he's not the best ohh~~" well fuck you naniwa go probe rush ppl!

[hopang12]

@xOXChimeraXOx I agree with you. this fucked up kid doesn't deserve to be called a pro player.

[ArtanisOwns]

naniwa is fucking autistic or some shit

[kenkomg]

@ArtanisOwns u mad bro

[hemptime123]

@ArtanisOwns he has aspergers, cant be autistic .. i8ts incredible that hes achievedthis with aspergers.. good fucking job man

[Wolferenful]

You people realized 1.4.2 came out right before providence right. That significantly changed protoss.

[slayerdark0]

ya Idra was right, he is a douchebag

[w0rm45]

@slayerdark0 Leenock served him Karma.

[MrGrizmint]

@slayerdark0 you know youre a fanboi when you take idras word on someone being a douchebag or not lol

[Punktperson]

@slayerdark0

...not sure if Idra should be the one to talk.

[1337Wunderbaum]

@Punktperson He should, He is some times a douche but when he says stuff he most of the times has a good point

[Punktperson]

@1337Wunderbaum

Not really. Naniwa is brutally honest to the point of being disrespectful, Idra is that on top of being angry and complainy about game balance. Don't get me wrong, I love Idra's play, but I've yet to see Naniwa do something disrespectful Idra doesn't do three times before breakfast every day.

Also, this clip seems to be taken slightly out of context; I recommend you guys go watch the full interview and then form an opinion...

[1337Wunderbaum]

@Punktperson Yes but when IdrA is arguing abbout balance he says some good points that actully makes sense. For example that colossus do way to much damage vs Zerg. At the point when the colossus dies it has already done the damage that it needs to do.

[Punktperson]

@1337Wunderbaum

I don't think Idra has a point. Not saying the balance is perfect, but Idra would fare so much better if he focused more on his own play instead of blaming his losses on the game or other surrounding factors. You can have opinions about the balance, but focusing too much on it is bound to hurt your own play. Either way, that's beside the point; I havn't seen Naniwa do anything bad that Idra hasn't, so Idra just comes off as ignorant in calling him a douche.

[Punktperson]

@1337Wunderbaum

I mean come on, what the hell exactly was so heinous about what Naniwa said in this clip? "Nestea is not the best Zerg in Korea, at least not vs Protoss", followed by three or four players he think's is better. Oooohh. That's some grade A bashing right there, dude... He says other things about Nestea that I thought were too harsh in the full interview, but THIS? I'm REALLY not sure what all of you guys are whining about.

[1337Wunderbaum]

@Punktperson naniwa is rude and all he did vs neastea was sit on 2 base an push out and won, and then he think he is a good player rofl

[Punktperson]

@1337Wunderbaum

You didn't answer my question; what was so rude about what he said about Nestea here? He wasn't rude, he was just bluntly honest. He's said other things I'd classify as rude in interviews, but none of it's here. And criticising someone for sitting on two base is like criticising someone for, I don't know, gathering resources. It's a common match development and not unbalanced whatsoever. Still not seeing the problem.

[AP07H30515]

@Punktperson ^this guy knows what he is talking about

[Mun885]

@slayerdark0 He even looks like a faggot.

[1212ofomyzrc]

@slayerdark0 idra "NERD RAGE"

[abbebelino]

Nani is a really good player, Hes probably better than any of you will ever be. overall hes not as good as Nestea, but he has a point. Nestea has not been that good lateley (especially in pvz). and if naniwa thinks they are a bigger threat than Nestea, then so be it. they are all really good players.

[Natch293]

@nicopapa121 You're right sorry :p

[a1k1gen]

Naniwa lost all his passion years ago and is trying to make nestea lose his

[sRsDegaNOW]

i am a big nestea fan but naniwa is right nestea wins his zvps most likely in the mide game but his late games isnt that good so i gues naniwa is right there are many better zergs in the match up zvp

[LasershotsHD]

fuck you nanifuckmyass

[vdubbs420]

Nestea has an 80% win vs toss.... Naniwa vs zerg ohhh nooo my cheesy 2 base all in bullshit wonttt workkk... but when it does.... "there are better players vs protoss"

[ClassicKonan]

I think you should stop talking crap before someone fixes that nose of yours. Life's not a computer game, you know.

[McDubbnCheese]

God i hate this guy, i always have.

[Scawtsauce]

naniwas is quite good for being mentally challenged

[Icheonly]

YOU ARE THE IDIOT NANIWA

WASTED BLIZZCON WITH THAT STUPID PLAY?

YOU'RE NOT A PROGAMMER YOU'RE JUST A PROGAY SUCK YOUR ASS

[Teezatos]

naniwa ur trash, u play protoss, easiest fucking race in the game, and they're op as fuck

[Szeicheng]

@Teezatos Protoss is the hardest race to play by far. Zerg is so easy. Terran is in the middle. I used to be a masters Protoss but Zerg was just too hard. Way too mobile. So what did I do? Did I QQ? Nope. I switched to Zerg and now SC is EZ. Zerg is the best race and I'm not afraid to admit it.

[Icheonly]

@Teezatos WHAT A IDIOT YOU ARE! I DIDN'T KNOW NANIWA HAS A SOFTHEADED GROUPY LIKE YOU!

[Teezatos]

@Icheonly i dont know wtf ur talking about, i don't know these virgins, i don't care for them and their game play, they're all shit and useless to society

[KeybladeMaster03]

@Teezatos dont wanna start a Balance war, but I have to say Terran is the easiest (even Blizzard recognizes that it will be incredibly hard to balance terran especially with its success in Korea), personally I play protoss so I guess it will always come a bit easier for me, but in terms of like statistics, Zerg and Protoss have always switched win rates while terran seems to always ahve the highest.

[Sapreme]

@KeybladeMaster03 toss is easier to play than terran, just group your deathball and A move. Add some forcefields too.

[KeybladeMaster03]

@Sapreme but look how long it takes to get the deathball, if you dont harrass a toss and let them sit there and macro up then hell yeah your gonna lose. and if the player has bad mechanics the deathball aint shit. Fuckin terran A moves the entire game, in PvT lok how much you have to tech up to beat a simple bio ball. Protoss: Warp Gate Robo Facility Robo Bay Twilight Council Templar Archives Dark Shrine Stargate Terran: Barracks Starport Ghosts

[meinsla]

@KeybladeMaster03 How come terran gets to skip factory and ghost academy tech? And you don't need a dark shrine either.

I'm gonna go ahead and assume you play toss, the bitchiest of the races.

[KeybladeMaster03]

@meinsla sry ghosts = ghost academy, I didnt include up grades. which only include stim and combat shield and concuss shells. Factories arent used in bio ball tech route so why include them? dark shrine is needed for harass and archons

[meinsla]

@KeybladeMaster03 I only mentioned factory because you mentioned starport, which requires factory tech. And I instantly dismiss 99.9% of bitching about balance. There's 100,000 things you can do to get better at the game before balance even becomes an issue. If you're not GM I don't wanna hear the bitching.

[CptSteiner]

@meinsla @KeybladeMaster03 If either of you are winning by simply A-moving your armies, then one of three things are going on. 1: You're in bronze. 2: You crippled your opponent's economy or army earlier in the game. 3: You're playing monobattles with banelings...

[DaDarkHunter]

@CptSteiner is see a lot of things like this everyday where u call someone a noob bronzie but im always thinking that not everyone is in the North America ladder and btw, im a bronzie rank 1, except that i play on the korean ladder :)

[CptSteiner]

@DaDarkHunter I never called them bronzies. I simply stated it as a possibility. I'm also really confused why your proud of being bronze on KR. You're probably better than any NA bronze or silver, but I don't consider that much to brag about. Sounds like a waste of 60$ to me... have fun with your latency issues. I'll be sure to never bad-mouth bronze league again, knowing that there are beastly gold-leaguers hiding in KR bronze. Wouldn't want to question their skills...

[KeybladeMaster03]

@meinsla im not bitching, i was replying to someone who was bitching dude, you just happened to look at my comment. One guy said P wins by A move once they have the death ball, all I said was that it takes more tech for P to get to death ball than it does T to get big bio ball. I didnt mention factory tech b/c it isnt used in bio ball.

[KeybladeMaster03]

@meinsla protoss = bitchiest of races? how so? only argument is proxy pylons and our ability to warp in. but tbh the cooldown along wit warp in time without chrono boost is 2 seconds shorter than it would take to individuually make units from an unupgraded gateway. Our units cost the most so what what else u got? oh now our upgrades are cheaper? makes sense since idk our units  and buildings cost a shitload of money

[Sapreme]

@KeybladeMaster03 Or you get a few stalkers and put down some good forcefields.

[KeybladeMaster03]

@Sapreme w.e dude, im not gonna bother havin this conv wit you cuz honestly I couldnt tell you what would/wouldnt make the game balanced, im only in Plat man

[Natch293]

I didn't know naniwa was grey

[jayslaughter1]

@Natch293 racist?

[Natch293]

@jayslaughter1 You're right, I apologize to all the grey people in the world

[IhateMissouriALot]

@Natch293 I LAUGHED FOR DAYS

[PirateNightsuN]

@Natch293 racist to grey people

[NotGoingCrazy]

@Natch293 Does that matter?

[Wickedsicked8]

naniwa cheated at mlg and nestea plays a shit race these add up to close games

[1337Wunderbaum]

@Wickedsicked8 zerg is a shit race? terran got mules, protoss got force fields, what does zerg got in the early game? just curious...

[Nashtak]

@1337Wunderbaum That argument is old. If you wanna compare the 3 races, you gotta compare every aspects objectively.

People like you are the reason the official SC2 forum is so excruciating; all you guys do is wait for another race to do well in a tourney, pick one of their units or mechanics then spam away. Rince and repeat.

It's sad.

[1337Wunderbaum]

@Nashtak Pick up pros tactics from torunaments is dumb since people that you face and have watched will know how to counter it, All my BO and strats comes from my mind. what league are you btw?

[snusd0san]

@1337Wunderbaum lulz, it's dumb to copy builds just because they've been played at a tornament? Unless you're at a high master lvl and facing an oppenent that has really good reading skills it's not gonna make a difference. Besides, good strats doesn't revolve around the other player just loosing because he didn't expect your bild...

[Wickedsicked8]

@1337Wunderbaum they have nothing notable early game rlly and protoss have chrono boost as well (not op) and forcefields are fine vs terran but broken vs zerg

[jkdxtr321]

blizzcon nestea totally own this guy, why he said he should've won it?

[stoikr]

ZvP is NesTeas weakest mach-up. Naniwa even said "There are a lot of better Zergs in Korea than him, at least against protoss" - you just can't hear it good because of the audio quality and the interviewer interrupting him...

[BlanknWhite]

I honestly think Nestea lost a TON of confidence after his loss to Naniwa.... He lost to freaking Haypro of all people! I hope he can bounce back soon though

[projectbeard]

@BlanknWhite

i'd lose confidence too if i lost to someone who looked like a weasel

[An2quamaraN]

@BlanknWhite and he did

[NotGoingCrazy]

@BlanknWhite He won over Nestea....

[BDPohaenix]

let's not forget that the ONLY reason nestea is code S now is because leenock was already code S.

[zBatboyz]

People are morons if they hate on Naniwa, he beat Nestea twice, he didnt even get close to being in the finals, he got roflstomped out of code s by HUK? Nestea isnt as good as people think he is, simple as that.

[TheSWTORMMO]

@zBatboyz Nestea is a 3 time GSL Code S champion. Naniwa hasn't won a single game in Code A. Stop talking out of your ass. Any of these pros can take a game off of one another. Nestea is in on an entirely different level than Naniwa. Get your head straight.

[zBatboyz]

@TheSWTORMMO Please explain how a person losing all matches in code A managed to beat Nestea, a 3 time code S champion on 2 different occasions and managing to get into code S while Nestea goes back to code A? Fuck off and quit ass licking. It's bad for you.

[boeferman1]

@TheSWTORMMO

then why did he outplay him in two series? 0.0

[TheSWTORMMO]

@boeferman1 Carefully re-read what I wrote. I said that any pro can take games off of one another. It just so happened that Naniwa was playing very well, and Nestea wasn't playing his best. It's THAT simple. Stop being illogical.

[boeferman1]

@TheSWTORMMO

"Nestea is in on an entirely different level than Naniwa"

I was responding to this with then why did he outplay him in two series? 0.0.

That's not a matter of Nestea just not 'playing at his best'. That's just bullshit :P in the games they played naniwa showed incredible skill :p

[TheSWTORMMO]

@boeferman1 Yes, I don't deny that. Naniwa played incredibly, and Nestea did not play well. That's why Naniwa won. If Nestea was playing at his best, he would have crushed Naniwa because Nestea is a better player. Hope that cleared it up for you.

[boeferman1]

@TheSWTORMMO

he played well , naniwa was just better. Why do you keep saying nestea is on another level than naniwa.. which has now been proven not the case.

[TheSWTORMMO]

@boeferman1 Nothing has been proven. The only thing proven over the course of history is that Nestea is a far superior player than Naniwa. Just because Naniwa beat Nestea in 2 sets doesn't take away from that. You're not thinking clearly.

[boeferman1]

@TheSWTORMMO

Nestea WAS better than Naniwa, Naniwa crushed him in the two series they played against each other.

Just because he won 3 GSL's does not make him invincible. Fact is that MVP also got crushed by Nani, and that guy won 3 GSL's too. Is it hard to believe Naniwa is just... good?

[SDFenix]

@boeferman1 naniwa is indeed good, but imo the main characteristic of a truly great player is consistency and in that regard nestea, even though i feel he's in kind of a slump right now, is still on another level as naniwa. a month ago, naniwa lost to nestea and sen at blizzcon, he lost to lucky in the gsl and few days ago he lost to DRG at dreamhack, whereas MVP for example won blizzcon, got second in gsl october, won the wcg korean qualifier, won mlg korean invitational......

[SDFenix]

@boeferman1 he won the team ace invitational and he is now up against leenock in the gsl semi-finals. and all that within a month, i mean, you cant argue with these results. as of now, mvp has proven to be a far superior player than naniwa. as for nestea, despite his slump, still only high caliber players can defeat him and i really hope that he regains his former strength.

[boeferman1]

@SDFenix

naniwa won mvp, naniwa > mvp :s

[SDFenix]

@boeferman1 lets wait for the blizzard cup, then we'll see.......

[boeferman1]

@SDFenix

hehe ok ^^

[linenlines]

how can you insult one of the best zergs in the world

[LoveLasers]

@linenlines Oh Dude, he CAN insult "one of the best", 'cause he's the best.

[Beecels]

Naniwa always kind of seemed douchey to be, never cared much for him.

[Nvrloptimism]

funny how much luck he had considering that he got roflstomped out of code A

[llama3aterr]

@Nvrloptimism luck that he beat nestea in 2 seperate series? and luck that hes in Code S now?

[paulfornasier]

@kentliu why would you post such a crappy quality video of something that anyone can go watch in full context on the original post??? You would do yourself a favour by just going to comment on the original video if you have an opinion....LOL

[zigginh0]

Well said Naniwa. The fans want honest opinions and you're not afraid to speak your mind out. We need people like this.

[Flamez2k10]

he already apolagised for this you can take this stupid vid off now and stop tryna get views

[mk6758]

naniwa takes adderall.

[SpellingErrur]

I love how everyone is like, "Naniwa's opinion isn't the same as mine! He has no honor!" When he CLEARLY outskilled Nestea and therefor EARNED the right to be arrogant. If Nestea doesn't like it, then he needs to up his game..

[Headcrabs1337]

@SpellingErrur Well he didn't "earn the right to be arrogant" but Naniwa said these things as a joke, and he actually thinks highly of Nestea's play all around.

[mikecmtong]

@Headcrabs1337 And really, Koreans BM all the time and the crowd is like "hahaha omg Bomber just said this and did that, he's so BM!!! Bomber! Bomber! Bomber!" But when a Swede BM's, everyone goes bat shit crazy.

[IndoJaps]

@SpellingErrur You know that is not 'professional' right?

[Fuice1]

@SpellingErrur Nestea didnt play hes best.... he could have beaten Naniwa if he didnt make those mistakes he normally wouldnt.

[azngoku666]

@Fuice1 that's why he's been slumping for like 2 weeks and embarassing everyone with his play? even artosis is making less chuck norris jokes about him...

[Fuice1]

@azngoku666 Ye, hes been getting the same problem he had with BW.