StarCraft 2: Terran VS Zerg Strategies - Viking Harassment

[basilisk444]

Did u see any roaches?......

...It worked!

[FinalFlash555]

i luv it!

[yahooizzle]

you know there bad when......... you notice they dont have game clock turned on

[CheaterGuy1998]

OMG I SEE TRANSFORMERS IN STARCRAFT 2!!!

[TheREALMcstaggy]

@audiophil92 I don't think they are crying. 1. The fact that a Mule's life span is short. 2. Scanning is when they want to start stalking the people in the world. 3. Call down extra supply is when they take a dump and some unlucky supply depot is right under it. Dang accurate pooping Mules....

[Terrazas98]

This strategy was ok but harassment won't always work. I use bunkers to block my entrance along with AA turrets and siege tanks. more defense firepower then build up your attack force thumbs up if you agree

[MrLiitleman]

good video but it got me dizzy too much moving, but other than that awesome vid ")

[silentmodz981]

i think your scv is ready

[RedMage86]

tHIS IS PRETTY DOPE.

[taylordize]

banshees + cloning usually works pretty well

[MalwareGFX]

Bronze league?

[SuperTrollerFTW007]

Terrans suck balls! They couldnt do shit even if you gave them a warhead the size of a planet!

[vinmaster25]

LOL with my old expierence of sc2 it looked like they would kill your viks but then again my computer has a virus and wont run any cd drives now :(? I hope ebay has a cheap one hahaha

[PAYBACKaiw]

Does strategies from SCBW applicable in SC2?

[0YtsanBlowout0]

@PAYBACKaiw I believe the two factory still works.

[sportindaveyg]

L M F A O....

I had to buy SC2 for the new D3 Forums..

and im talkin this was theother day , my buddy said first to understand is Terran. And you move so fassssst. My first RTS so this can get interesting. Great video lol

[MrBudokai87]

1 tank doesn't stop that many roaches haha he was a pussy

[DKNabout]

so what have you not popped o_O

[bloodsuckern]

vikings are REALLY good versus marines if you land them

[Devonmeister]

Any new players watching this go watch a pro replay instead

[Devonmeister]

I bet your in wood league

[cheaterbaki]

the roaches could beat the single tank easily.

viking s are a good harassment unit against overlords, but as ground units, they are bad.

[CptBriggzy]

This strategy definitly can work however versus zerg it more resource efficient to go 2 port banshee vs roaches since zerg has so little anti air early game and banshee's dont have to land.

[kbeleee]

Thank ya now i pawn all :D

[elewie916]

Vikings are not good against roaches. Just wanted to let newer players know this.

[jonathansonn]

BF3 will be better than MW3.

[audiophil92]

Somewhere in heaven, all those unborn Mule's are crying about the excessive scanning... :P

[odnicholas25]

WAFFLEZ!!

[myfreedomblog]

marauders counter roaches... problem solved

[chappyman82]

is it really worth having the 2 starports? wouldnt one with a reactor be just fine? anyhow sound like a nice tactic will try it out some time

[Sondretheman71]

@chappyman82 then he wont get 4 at once, only 2, he has reactor on each of the starports.

[0YtsanBlowout0]

Do this strat with a reactor on your barracks. It's much more protective.

[andr656c]

this tactic sucks



[mommozz]

130 people now think Roaches do extra damage to bio units.

[RadekTOXMusicz]

rush zerg workers rolf :D

[yagr93]

he didnt say gg! what was on your mind- " he just  g.. *what rude! he didnt say gg* , he said bye... ") :P

[patrickh92able]

how do you come up with strategies?

[feonjun]

TY bra!

[YEMK]

HOLY SHIT BEST STRATERGY EVERR

[SuperColonel77]

I play Sc1 and i think this still helps alot.

[Enfinex]

Nice vid, but one tip: Build your starports away from the ramp entrance, so that even if he scouts the block, he wont be able to see what youre going for. Also place marines sentral so that you can kill a scouting overlord before he gets a chance to scout :)

And you should push and expand at the same time as the harass :) GG

[GundamSeed13]

subscribed! Looking forward for vids and this helped out alot :D

[Tein07]

thx alot, im new in SC2 and this helped me put alot :)!

[sille1337]

Roaches do 16 dmg to all units. Vikings vs Roaches is not good, if you want to go air vs roaches, go banshee. Maybe a few vikings to harass ols, but as banshee take long time to build i rather go for more banshees.

Best counter is stimed rauders tho.

[ryaubee]

lol learn to hotkey your buildings and army.

also learn to micro.

[AllTriforces]

HAHA well you deserved the views dude.

[ArtemReaper]

nigga you bad

[wcc3af]

i really hope that this video is you trying to troll. because vikings is just a stupid thing to do against roaches, if you see a lot of roaches, just make more marauders into your marine tank mix

[ghostlabmedia]

@wcc3af

This is a strategy you can implement, particularly for harassment. I wouldn't recommend doing this as a main build, though it's what I focused on in the game play. In some cases, it would work, like this game, but others, especially for more experienced of players, easily countered.

[zecocolt]

@ghostlabmedia why not go for cloaked bashee ?

[Starcraftaki2]

@wcc3af if you do banchees is good to :) because roaches dont atack air units

[AleksiQV]

@Starcraftaki2 And Banshees can't attack air units, Overlords im talking about... So that the enemy zerg could not do more units.

If someone has zerglings and roaches. Then the oponent viking rusher just goes and destroys the enemy zergs all overlords. And he can't do any units at all. Not even hydralisks if he would build hydralisk den because of that.

[StarcraftStank]

@wcc3af your a dumbass the best players do this just about every game tvz it makes zerg rage if you get two vikings early

[blockbot]

@wcc3af just did this last night and I won with it. The harass was so early that they couldn't ever get settled.

[pkrange002]

hard to follow xs

[zqmbfg]

so tank unsieged would also counter roaches? what counters roach hydra?

[915olivares1]

I love the new graphics... pretty sweet!!!

[theechuy]

Sick

[nounnyvan]

around 2 mins of ur vid, im pretty sure zerg ran rush u with some banelings and destroy one of ur supply depot and after zergling rush in.

[brainbasher]

I loved when your opponent said "thats it... im not playing this"......GG

[genhelcave]

man if i was the zerg player i would at least try to push up the ramp even tho there was only 1 sige tank

[simonator1234]

Lotta haters in here. Thanks for the strat. Helpful for newbs like me ><

[genhelcave]

@simonator1234 this is why u watch HDstarcraft videos, u will learn a lot of strategies if u watch the pros build and what to do agnst w.e units the other player has, trust me dude watch a lot of HDs videos of the pros u will learn faster

[TheLogan455]

Ill be useing this in my next battle against a Zerg :)

[dmorgan0628]

I'm still new so anything helps for me, although he does sound cock

[niuren]

Err, i just wanna say, Roaches do 16 damages ground units regardless of size. So they will do full damage against marines, marauders, as well as vikings(once they land). Therefore, Vikings are not a good counter against roaches.

[ghostlabmedia]

@niuren Marines and Marauders take extra damage, as mentioned, however. Vikings do not, because they are mechanical units.

[niuren]

@ghostlabmedia uh??? One of us must be tripping balls, lolz. if you search it up or click a roach in game, it says that roaches always do 16 damage to ground enemies. Where do you get the stats that they do extra to bio units?

[ghostlabmedia]

@niuren

To my knowledge, it's always been like that. Bio units take extra damage from roach attacks. Same thing with banelings and anything with the Acid attacks.

[niuren]

@ghostlabmedia You better go search it up bro, I don't think that's the case. A proof of that is that roaches killed drones equally fast as they'd kill probes (3 shots) Baneling acid seem to do "extra" damage to marines because banelings do extra damage against light units (e.g. marines hellions zlings zlot.) and that's why banelings suck against marauders (because they are armored unit). Roaches have a melee and range attack, and they both do 16 damages. I am 99% sure. lolz.

[kalorful]

@ghostlabmedia no.

[sly741x]

@ghostlabmedia incorrect. it would state that it does extra dmg if it did so. I tested it out and roaches only do a solid 16 dmg to marines and marauders. And banelings do 20 dmg regularly and 35 dmg to light amored units. Acids have no extra effect against bio units or else it would say so.

[pedobearishot]

@ghostlabmedia no lmao plus marauders are armored acid attack doesnt mean anything only the vs light and vs armored

[ACJacko1]

@ghostlabmedia you are correct

[ianman6]

@ghostlabmedia Roaches have no bonus damage and never have. They damage all ground units equally.

[kamesstory2]

@ianman6 Actually you are wrong. Roaches do acid attacks, which obviously do more damage to biological units because the armor is thinner than those of the mechanical units. You can infer this because the people inside have to be able to stand, and should not fall over from the weight of their armor...

Meanwhile, acid attacks cannot melt the armor of mech units effectively. Therefore, units with acid attacks do more damage to bio units and less damage to mech.

[AleksiQV]

@ghostlabmedia Im sorry to dissapoint you, but it's true that roaches do full damage on vikings when they are in assault mode. I tried "Hard counter" unit tester and let 1 roach hit a viking once. Vikings have 125 life. The Viking had 109 life left after the roach hit it once. So 16 damage.

Also, vikings are not the best against roaches. Or i mean. Viking wins a Roach in 1v1 and has very little life left. But vikings cost 150 minerals and 75 gas. And Roaches only 75 minerals and 25 gas.

[RupDudley]

@niuren Check the date. Apr 2, 2010. This was the Beta.

[niuren]

@RupDudley I played the beta all the way through... Roaches changed armor, supply, range, but never changed damage? Could you show me any evidence when roaches did extra damage against bio?

[newthepanch]

@niuren Anyway you can use viking to hit the population unit from zerg, that way you force him to do hidralisk or mutalisk

[619studios]

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[MultiKSproductions]

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[Narkosis23]

how did you get the ability to build faster

[ghostlabmedia]

@Narkosis23

Learn the hotkeys, and get fluid between both macro and micro management.

[PlayPrey]

@ghostlabmedia i think he thinks that the replay isnt speeded up :P

[ArtemReaper]

@Narkosis23

This kid ghost is a baddie dont listen to him ~_~

[MrDJlikesPIE]

@Narkosis23 he didnt, it just speeded up the video

[9Asabov3SoBelow6]

Thanks leviathan i keep loosing to fast roaches, zerg jumping to 2-3 expo. I play a fairly defensive based strategy but i see now i need to be more aggressive especially with air/mech build.

[TheDarkVoice100]

mm + first tanks with siege = gg

[cptmiche]

@rokpain the funny thing is he plays diamond league, so that guy wasnt noob at all

[dropdguitarist]

U said vikings are good against roaches but you never really fought roaches with your vikings, just over lords and drones. i dunno it could wrk

[cptmiche]

@dropdguitarist the viking strategy is good against the roach strategy is what he is trying to say, and he explained how roaches do biological damage, and vikings are mechanical so they take much less damage. and they are faster and cheaper to pump out than siege tanks

[dropdguitarist]

@cptmiche hmm true u got a point, but what about banshees, the roaches cant even attack it?

[cptmiche]

@dropdguitarist the problem with banshees is that they cant attack air at all, they are far more expensive than vikings, and vikings can be produced twice as fast as banshees.

[Thewowlvl80]

i wish i went againsted him.. easy win ^.^.. And i have one question do you have to pay per month for starcraft2?

[CptSteiner]

@Thewowlvl80 Nope battlenet is free, son.

[Thewowlvl80]

@CptSteiner battle.net is free.. but is starcraft2?

[CptSteiner]

@Thewowlvl80 You buy Starcraft 2 once for the install and your key. No monthly charges at all, just the initial price of the game.

[antiirony]

nigga said 'tudaloo'

[theemperor122]

nice game man

[MrJackGallows]

that zerg player was horrible

[ethniclandmark22]

fucking noob

[OhFishyFish]

I think he could easily break into your base with roaches, one tank and those marines could loose. Lucky that one. :)

[MrStupidhunter]

hahaha pwned

[i82mini]

how many scv should i make

[CptSteiner]

@i82mini A lot... you should be continually pumping scvs pretty much all the time... if you get a total of more than 60 or so your probably taking up too much of your army, but it all comes down to judgment and what kind of match up your playing. It's fairly common to hear 26 harvesters is your max per base though.

[penndragon22]

Great vid dude. Watch how many times you say "um" though

[visamway]

Too fast for strategy demonstration mode.

[TheAdjundantReflex]

You're pretty good. I lol'd when the guy left. Good video, gave you a thumbs up.

[jessejames134]

"simply sail the skies, for Roaches cannot attack Air Units." then what do u doo when they go to rape your base haha

[TheAdjundantReflex]

@jessejames134

He kept Marines + a siege tank at his base. The roaches tried to hit his base the the siege tank + Marine fire killed like 3 and he booked it out of there. His Terran wall-in wasn't even touched.

[ultimatesimpsonsfan]

what a saw looser!!!

[Newmusicsuck]

Hi

[bongbongbong888]

dizzy from the x3 forward. lol.

[Damnax1991]

Hello, I just got my 7 hour trial from a friend. But I have a question, I was playing online as terran and played 3 matches against Zerg guys (lost 3 times). How can I survive a rush of those little Zerg creatures (Is that the famous RoachRush?).

Because I mass produce marines...but it failed...So what is best Terran strategy against Zerg rushers.

[KatsuGuitar]

@Damnax1991 no..roach rush are the bigger creatures that shoot the green goop at you. You need to put down a supply depot on your ramp to your base, a barracks, and another supply depot. he shows it in the video. that will give you some time to buy against a ling rush. 1 marine will take out 4 or 5 of them so long as he is behind your "wall" and they can't get to them. Make sure you make your first supply depot at 10/11 and racks soon after. after that you have room to go any number of builds.

[Damnax1991]

@KatsuGuitar thanks, my trial is over now...But I will buy the game today and try every strategy.

[martinp973]

good video, thanks for the info!

[aerali]

people mostly just rush because people are noobs and they just want to get the acheviments for 1vs1 for the nice portraits

[KatsuGuitar]

@aerali no...people rush because it is a legitimate tactic to bring victory. plan for the rush and maybe it won't defeat you. People rush at the highest levels of play...how can you say it is just to get acheviments?!1?

[TheAntekantek]

you needed mules more then the scans, you would of had a better eco then

[Jonereator2]

are vikings useable vs mutas??? ._. really dot know what to do against the magic box D:

[shutuplz23]

maradar and banshee?

[Sn0wTROPiCZ]

@shutuplz23 maurador and viking is a really good strategy against protoss because they counter colossus and stalkers which is a typical mid game protoss tactic

[wii97]

Really good commentary + video.

Maybe put the speed at normal. thnx

[DeadEye123100]

This is the beta right?

[akejmandawg]

VERY NICE!

[TheBrazilianKidd]

Vikings are the best unit vs zerg if its in numbers.

[SClondondude]

lol just won a game with 4 thors a battlecruiser and the great wall of china of  supply depots to defend my base >:D.....the guy was a noob lol

[GuruGaming98]

@SClondondude Must've wasted your whole budget to put that great wall of china of supply depots. Luckily he was a noob.

[heyitserik333]

wow, really helped thanks

[Gurgle528sevrules1]

thanks for the vid

[boneboy767]

why didnt the opponent scout.......

[kyle41694]

but i like the strategy

[kyle41694]

i think the zerg guy just wasnt good

[alissasorenson]

if i was in a game with u i would die cuz i SUCK

[lecem]

Nice video :) good strategy

[ghostlabmedia]

@rokpain

I suppose that could be implimented into the strategy itself (play against n00bs) xD

[anthrax70]

@ghostlabmedia lol

[rswails64]

Hi. Did you already know they were zerg, and going roaches when you decided to go full out vikings? You didn't send a scout, so I wasn't quite sure if you lucked out they went roaches, or if you knew they were going to go roaches.

[ghostlabmedia]

@rswails64

Somewhere in the video, I had gotten the hunch he was going roaches, mainly because of the early expo, which I used to see alot of back during beta. When facing off Zerg, I usually aim for going vikings as my offense, rather than defense. It's a quick and efficient way to keep yourself ready for early game, especially for harassment.

[Jef793]

i think marine rushes are the best, they take out everything except collosus then u just need one or 2 seige tanks

[ghostlabmedia]

@Jef793

Marine Marauder is fairly useful, especially early game to mid-game with those siege tanks, agreed. Once air comes in, or those dreaded upper tier 2 units, marines don't just cut it. Gotta bring in the heavy artillery.

[Jef793]

@ghostlabmedia Thors lol

[darkstar8686]

@ghostlabmedia Marines with +2 or +3 and stim will eat through air units, backed up with lots of medivacs they are awesome. 

[cseijif]

@ghostlabmedia not really against muta they are the best, the ones who are cut off are the helions :D

[dimmuborgir82]

i like his commentary. =)

[ghostlabmedia]

@dimmuborgir82

Thanks!

[akmaru]

hmmmmmmm fast forwarded

[BlackBelt288]

Hey i like your videos.

[ghostlabmedia]

@BlackBelt288

Thanks! ^^

[dimmuborgir82]

he tried to early expo and i said noo lol

[Rufus702]

This video made me dizzy. I was forced to staop watching it after like 45 seconds.

[isparedes]

thanks now i can beat my cousin

[overloadpwns]

lol to da loo

[tetradd]

Seemed a bit odd to chew through the scans rather than the Mule. An SCV could have accomplished the same feat (scout the roach warren, you know he's going roaches) and the boost to your income would have been a lot more than the cost of the SCV.

[skinnyjoe1995]

thumbs if you watched in 720p HD and you thought like WTF this looks like 240p

[Ho0lihan]

I feel like the roaches/ lings could have broken through the terran wall. I'd keep the roaches in front to take down the barracks or supply depot then rush the lings to the siege tank... would have had heavy losses but 1 siege tank can't do everything

[ghostlabmedia]

@Ho0lihan

I agree, wholeheartedly. I feel that maybe if he had pushed in, it would have turned a whole different direction.

[xXRawrRichRawrXx]

fuck yeah xD epic winnnn

[M1E1R]

I dont know if this is ironic or not.

[cfrancis]

retard league? this guy is fucking terrible

[thekongathon]

worst commentary in the world.

[ghostlabmedia]

@thekongathon

thanks =D check out my music, it's better than my voice lol

[dumgum222]

7 zerg players watch this

[DocterMuzzy]

does anyone find it ironic that the barracks can lift off (the thing that makes ground units) and the starport cant?

[KiriNoKitsune]

@DocterMuzzy Starport can lift off.. >.>

[DocterMuzzy]

@KiriNoKitsune ive never seen one lift off? but i never play to much terran either

[thekongathon]

@DocterMuzzy yeah it can lift off.